Talk:Kewu-pattern battleship
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Facts Confirmed
- On 06:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC) Yamanba had some issues with this article, including, "This name is fictional name made up to describe what is really the Covenant Cruiser. I'll withdraw my call to delete this article if you can prove it exists by giving me a PAGE NUMBER of where it was mentioned or where in the games it was mentioned.". However on 09:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC) they were resolved:
Isnt this the same as Covenant Assault Carrier? -ED 02:38, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Don't think so. RelentlessRogue 07:34, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Covenant supercruiser
The covenant supercruser is not a carrier class, its a cruiser class, as the name sugests its a larger verion of a battle cruiser, it is a command cruiser -- Darth nexes 20:42, 14 November 2006
It also has similar armaments and length to the Reverence-class Cruiser mentioned in Ghosts of Onyx.
- --Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IVCOMHalo: Galaxy 00:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Conjecturalization
My name for this is conjecturalized. It has been listed as a large cruiser...super + cruiser = supercruiser. Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 20:35, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- Conjecturalized isn't a real world. To make a guess, to make something up to post speculation is something called, conjecture. -- Yamanba 06:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Votes for Deletion
- Delete this fan fiction name is mere conjecture, or speculation. Speculation is something that is banned on Halopedia. -- Yamanba 06:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep - the information on this ship is real, it is simply the name that is under dispute. It was a major plot device in the Battle of Reach, and was a large reason for the Covenant's sack of the UNSC. Like Wookieepedia does, I recommend to keep it the way it is: with the hypothesized name, but a tag listing its ambiguity, unless you have something better? Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 16:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - Unless you can prove the ship found in Halo: The Fall of Reach on page 297 during the Battle of Reach is without a doubt an Assault Carrier, then it would be "rampant speculation" to say this is an Assault Carrier, would it not?--Rot 2334 6.12.06
- An update on that, this quote is describing the Covenant ship in question on page 323 in Halo: The Fall of Reach. "The covenant ship centered on the main view screen. This close Captain Keyes saw how huge the ship was- three times the mass of a normal cruiser." The quote doesn't prove without a doubt the ship is called a supercruiser, which I am not trying to prove, but it does give very good reason to believe the ship is a cruiser, which an Assault Carrier is not (the whole carrier thing kind of disqualifies it from being a cruiser). Earlier, on page 297 "One Covenant ship sat in the center of the pack, a gigantic vessel, larger the 3 UNSC cruisers." The common comparison to a cruiser rather than any other ship, and the use of the word normal in the 323 quote imply that it is a cruiser. Thus, I think it is safe to say this is not an Assault Carrier. And thus, I think it is safe to leave this ship up until we have an official name for it.--Rot 1539 7.12.06
- Concur as per Rot. Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 17:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think so. Stephen Loftus's scale chart (http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_scalecomparison/?display=CapitalShips) shows an Assault Carrier to be about three times the length of a CCS-class cruiser, and usually three times the size means about three times the length in something where length is the prominent dimension. Just my farthing. Just one question, are unregistered users allowed to vote?24.251.125.185 04:21, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- Concur as per Rot. Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 17:47, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the HBO chart puts the Assault Carrier at around five times the UNSC cruiser, which is slightly large than three times. The mystery ship at the Battle of Reach is approximately 3km long, perhaps more. The Assault Carrier is a tad over 5km.
- Such an oddity that I misread the argument here. The CCS-class Battlecruiser is actually exactly three times the length of a Covenant Assault Carrier. However, the Battlecruiser is also longer than a regular Covenant Cruiser, which is estimated to be less than 1500m.
- An update on that, this quote is describing the Covenant ship in question on page 323 in Halo: The Fall of Reach. "The covenant ship centered on the main view screen. This close Captain Keyes saw how huge the ship was- three times the mass of a normal cruiser." The quote doesn't prove without a doubt the ship is called a supercruiser, which I am not trying to prove, but it does give very good reason to believe the ship is a cruiser, which an Assault Carrier is not (the whole carrier thing kind of disqualifies it from being a cruiser). Earlier, on page 297 "One Covenant ship sat in the center of the pack, a gigantic vessel, larger the 3 UNSC cruisers." The common comparison to a cruiser rather than any other ship, and the use of the word normal in the 323 quote imply that it is a cruiser. Thus, I think it is safe to say this is not an Assault Carrier. And thus, I think it is safe to leave this ship up until we have an official name for it.--Rot 1539 7.12.06
Covenant Super cruiser
What if the mysterious ship was the ship in Halo First Strike with the five bublous section and a dozen energy projectors. After all, projectors do emit a silver white beam described by a Sparten as the larger ships have them while there was one fired to clear an opening in the forerunner location underground. —This unsigned comment was made by Halo3 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~
- That's the Covenant Battleship. Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 17:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Covenant Battleship is also a conjecturelized name for the mystery ship at the Unyielding Hierophant. However, seeing as how the minimum length of the Supercruiser is 3000m (roughly assuming the cruiser used to describe it is a UNSC cruiser) and the mystery ship is 2000m long.
Dang it!
Is this a Class of Cruiser like the name says or it is a Class Battleship as the description says??!?!? Fix it! --Gzalzi 22:52, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Covenant Supercruiser size
If the covenant supercruiser is 3 times the length of a marathon cruiser than shouldnt it be 4.5 kilometers long and not over 3.5 kilometers since the marathon cruiser page saids its 1500 meters long and not 1192 meters long shown on the other page and even if its the halcyon cruiser the size of it is 1170 meters long and times that by 3 and its 3510 meters and the page of the covenant supercruiser saids its over 3576 meters so it cant be the halcyon but the marathon with 1500 meters. The marathon with 1192 meters will be 3576 meters if you times 1192 by 3.
Assault Carrier is 5300 meters long if you multiply 1500 times three it is 4500 meters but less than 5000meters so it is possible that this was just a rough estimate. Or that they meant a CCS-class battle cruiser which is 1/3rd the length of an Assault Carrier. The reason I think its unlikely to be an Assault carrier is the POA destroyed it and the Assault carrier gutted a Marathon in Halo 2 and Marathon>POA. And an Assault carrier passed through 75 UNSC warships and a buch of Orbital defense platforms its gotta be powerful.