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:No, since he himself was still a Precursor at one point.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | :No, since he himself was still a Precursor at one point.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | ||
::Also, we don't know how the Graveminds' minds work, if each one is a different "being" (best word I can think of), or if every time there's a Gravemind it's the same one coming back. If we learn for sure it's always the same, then we could merge them. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:59, 7 January 2012 (EST) | ::Also, we don't know how the Graveminds' minds work, if each one is a different "being" (best word I can think of), or if every time there's a Gravemind it's the same one coming back. If we learn for sure it's always the same, then we could merge them. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:59, 7 January 2012 (EST) | ||
:::I see what you both are getting at, yet from what it appears to be, this Gravemind is the same one from the games, due to the dialog that he/it says, mainly in ''[[Halo 3]]''. In fact, the [[Proto-Gravemind]] page seems to support this | :::I see what you both are getting at, yet from what it appears to be, this Gravemind is the same one from the games, due to the dialog that he/it says, mainly in ''[[Halo 3]]''. In fact, the [[Proto-Gravemind]] page seems to support this: | ||
"Only two Graveminds are known to have ever been created; however, they seem to have the same memories, since the Gravemind present during the [[Human-Covenant War]] possessed detailed knowledge concerning the [[Forerunner-Flood War]] and even described the actions of the previous Gravemind during that time period as if they were his own. In essence, because it shares all the knowledge of the previous Gravemind and considers them both to be the same being, the Gravemind of the games ''is'' the Gravemind that fought the Forerunners, simply been reborn from another Proto-Gravemind." | "Only two Graveminds are known to have ever been created; however, they seem to have the same memories, since the Gravemind present during the [[Human-Covenant War]] possessed detailed knowledge concerning the [[Forerunner-Flood War]] and even described the actions of the previous Gravemind during that time period as if they were his own. In essence, because it shares all the knowledge of the previous Gravemind and considers them both to be the same being, the Gravemind of the games ''is'' the Gravemind that fought the Forerunners, simply been reborn from another Proto-Gravemind." | ||
But I do agree with you both that a lot about the Gravemind is still very mysterious. But from what it appears to be, these two Graveminds seem to be the same, if I'm correct. Guest-23:01, 10 January 2012 (EST) | But I do agree with you both that a lot about the Gravemind is still very mysterious. But from what it appears to be, these two Graveminds seem to be the same, if I'm correct. Guest-23:01, 10 January 2012 (EST) | ||
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I am just wondering but did the name prisoner of charum hakkor come from Cryptum or was it just a speculative type name?#@lof@n1234-Forgive My English 20:33, 12 March 2011 (EST)
- It's referred to as the "prisoner of Charum Hakkor" on at least one occasion, so it isn't an entirely speculative name. However, it is simply called "the prisoner" throughout most of the novel. --"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 20:46, 12 March 2011 (EST)
I think it would be more accurate to say "Unknown precursor", "Unknown Precursor prisoner" or something like that. But the name itself would be a huge spoiler to anybody who has not yet read Halo: Cryptum. Vegerot (talk) 21:23, 12 March 2011 (EST)!!
Rename?
What if we renamed it to the Timeless One?#@lof@n1234-Forgive My English 21:26, 12 March 2011 (EST)
Support I think it would be a good change! Vegerot (talk) 21:55, 12 March 2011 (EST)!!!
Support name makes more sense#@lof@n1234-Forgive My English 22:17, 12 March 2011 (EST)
Support - Since it's the only title that explicitly refers to the Precursor himself. "Prisoner of Charum Hakkor" sounds a little generic, imo. 
/ / STRYKER [ COM | LOG/M | LOG/S | AAU/HUM ] 20:36, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
Merge with Gravemind?
Since the Timeless One was revealed to be the Gravemind in Primordium, should they be merged together? Guest-10:15, 7 January 2012 (EST)
- No, since he himself was still a Precursor at one point.--Spartacus Talk • Contribs
- Also, we don't know how the Graveminds' minds work, if each one is a different "being" (best word I can think of), or if every time there's a Gravemind it's the same one coming back. If we learn for sure it's always the same, then we could merge them. Alex T Snow 18:59, 7 January 2012 (EST)
- I see what you both are getting at, yet from what it appears to be, this Gravemind is the same one from the games, due to the dialog that he/it says, mainly in Halo 3. In fact, the Proto-Gravemind page seems to support this:
- Also, we don't know how the Graveminds' minds work, if each one is a different "being" (best word I can think of), or if every time there's a Gravemind it's the same one coming back. If we learn for sure it's always the same, then we could merge them. Alex T Snow 18:59, 7 January 2012 (EST)
"Only two Graveminds are known to have ever been created; however, they seem to have the same memories, since the Gravemind present during the Human-Covenant War possessed detailed knowledge concerning the Forerunner-Flood War and even described the actions of the previous Gravemind during that time period as if they were his own. In essence, because it shares all the knowledge of the previous Gravemind and considers them both to be the same being, the Gravemind of the games is the Gravemind that fought the Forerunners, simply been reborn from another Proto-Gravemind."
But I do agree with you both that a lot about the Gravemind is still very mysterious. But from what it appears to be, these two Graveminds seem to be the same, if I'm correct. Guest-23:01, 10 January 2012 (EST)