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::- Different numbers and locations of small antennae<br>
::- Different numbers and locations of small antennae<br>
::- Four less point defense turrets on the Halo 4 version than Reach<br>
::- Four less point defense turrets on the Halo 4 version than Reach<br>
::::[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 16:41, 7 June 2013 (EDT)<br>
:::[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 16:41, 7 June 2013 (EDT)<br>
 
::::To play the devil's advocate, the differences do seem rather minor when the general design and shape of the hull are virtually identical otherwise. Do you think it would be far-fetched to assume they're Halcyons that have been upgraded at some point? The differences are exactly the kind one could easily expect to see in a refit - upgraded sensors, communications equipment and the like. But making them a wholly distinct class? On top of that, in light of most of 343i's design choices so far (the ''Dawn'' stands out as the most egregious), changes like these are comparatively tiny and would even have a very reasonable in-universe basis (the UNSC would basically be forced to upgrade the hopelessly obsolete Halcyons - if they still kept using them). That is, unless there are some major, deal-breaking structural differences not listed above. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:13, 10 September 2013 (EDT)

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Refit?

Where is the evidence that this ship had the same refit as the POA?—This unsigned comment was made by ‎108.66.164.104 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

With the exception of graphical upgrades and artistic licenses, these cruisers are nearly identical to the refitted Pillar of Autumn. Additionally, all Halcyon-class light cruisers were decommissioned as the war progressed. The data presumably provided by Cortana on the Autumn's successes at Reach and Installation 04 would have led Fleet Command to fund a project to make these ships active again, especially to escort their expensive new flagship. Grizzlei
Or, 343i reused the POA design from Reach, polished the textures and 'upping' the polygons for the CGI scenes. Unless it can be shown what Grizzlei says is true, I would suggest we remove these conjecture information.— subtank 21:40, 29 December 2012 (EST)

It would be utterly useless to have a non-upgraded Halcyon escort the Infinity. They had virtually no offensive power. They wouldn't be useful in a defense role without upgrades. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 21:47, 29 December 2012 (EST)

What I meant was, with the UNSC acquiring Forerunner tech, this ship could have a much more extensive refit than the POA.

This should not be listed as a Halcyon-class. It's structurally different from the Halo 1, Reach and Anniversary versions. It is speculation to list it as such. It is most similar to the Reach version but is different in many minor details. ScaleMaster117 (talk) 21:30, 3 June 2013 (EDT)

While I am in support of this (as per my comment above), could you please list out the minor details?— subtank 11:52, 4 June 2013 (EDT)
Visually, some of the differences between the Reach version and the Halo 4 version:
- Window arrangements are different
- Long antenna-like protrusion at the front is longer on the Halo 4 version (it's visually double the Reach version antenna length)
- Smaller radar dishes in different configurations about the ship
- Different numbers and locations of small antennae
- Four less point defense turrets on the Halo 4 version than Reach
ScaleMaster117 (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2013 (EDT)
To play the devil's advocate, the differences do seem rather minor when the general design and shape of the hull are virtually identical otherwise. Do you think it would be far-fetched to assume they're Halcyons that have been upgraded at some point? The differences are exactly the kind one could easily expect to see in a refit - upgraded sensors, communications equipment and the like. But making them a wholly distinct class? On top of that, in light of most of 343i's design choices so far (the Dawn stands out as the most egregious), changes like these are comparatively tiny and would even have a very reasonable in-universe basis (the UNSC would basically be forced to upgrade the hopelessly obsolete Halcyons - if they still kept using them). That is, unless there are some major, deal-breaking structural differences not listed above. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 12:13, 10 September 2013 (EDT)