Talk:Military Occupational Specialty

Further Information

Does anyone know of any "further sources" that I could read about the different MOS selections? I am extremely curious after seeing the different ones of Noble Team and seeing the similarities between theirs and the ones used in the current US Military. Any help would be greatly appreciated. E-5 (Sergeant), 1-7 CAV, U.S. Army (IRR) 20:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

i had a brief look, but Noble Team doesn't seem to correlate to the Navy, Marine or Army MOS codes. I didn't check the Air Force ones, but I think it's safe to say that Bungie just decided to make their own system so they don't get accused of getting real military stuff wrong (again). -- Specops306 ^{Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek} 01:51, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

• Actually all of them have the exact same MOS/NEC used in the military. How hard did you look? Emile and Jun are 18B, which in the Army is Special Forces Weapons Sergeant. Kat is 18E which is Special Forces Comms. Sergeant. Carter has the same '18' rating but the 0A which is SF Warrant Officer. Jorge is SO which in US Navy NEC is SEAL/Special Warfare. I'm unsure about Noble Six. I was just curious if Bungie had anything further to add, or if anyone had seen anything anywhere. E-5 (Sergeant), 1-7 CAV, U.S. Army (IRR) 07:24, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Comparison of Modern US MOS codes to UNSC codes

Disregarding the fact that this conversation ended just about 8 years ago, for any that are curious and find themselves comparing real life US MOS codes to these ones there are some things to note. First, the current Army MOS system has a total of eight Special Forces MOSs with a general range of ranks that inhabit them:

• 18A - Special Forces Officer (O3-O5)
• 180A - Special Forces Warrant Officer (WO1-CW5)
• 18B - Special Forces Weapons Sergeant (E5-E7)
• 18C - Special Forces Engineer sergeant (E5-E7)
• 18D - Special Forces Medical Sergeant (E5-E7)
• 18E - Special Forces Communications Sergeant (E5-E7)
• 18F - Special Forces Intelligence Sergeant (E5-E7)
• 18X - Special Forces Candidate (in which the holder enters the SF training pipeline immediately after recruitment, and does not classify with another MOS before attending SFQC)
• 18Z - Special Forces Senior Sergeant (E8-E9)

What's notable is that both Kat, Carter and Six have officer ratings, but are given an MOS in enlisted, warrant officer and warrant officer categories, respectively (MOS codes with three numbers denote Warrant Officer positions). Six's code is particularly interesting as in the current US Army MOS code structure, there exists no analogue - however the 15 series of codes is reserved for Aviation positions, and the 158B code may be for aerospace vehicle pilots, such as for the Sabre. Kat's code seems to make sense in that 18E is a communications specialist, except it's an enlisted position; it may be that the 18E has been redefined as an officer specializing in communications. Emile faces a similar issue, in that he is given the 18B code for enlisted weapons specialist, while he is a warrant officer, and Jun is in possession of a non-existent MOS (it would seem that 180B is meant to marry the warrant officer MOS [180A] with weapons sergeant MOs [18B]). The most likely case to me is that upon creation of NOBLE the members who joined never reclassified their MOS codes, something believed to also occur in units such as the CAG (Delta Force), with recruits coming predominantly from US Army SF and Rangers, retaining their codes (18 series or 11B with V suffix, respectively). This would cause the least amount of contradiction within the team; it's possible that the members could be promoted but still hold a lower rank MOS, and additionally explain why Six is classed as what seems to be an aviation MOS. We're going to disregard the fact that these "soldiers" are in the Navy, as shown by their ranks. Jorge's code in the Navy is accurate. Aspari (talk) 20:29, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

Edit: Just for reference, if we were to give the codes of the roles the members of NOBLE actually perform as their modern day equivalent (their Navy ranks notwithstanding), it would be as follows:

• Carter - 18A
• Kat - 18A
• Jun - 180A
• Emile - 180A
• Jorge - SO (for army: 180A)
• Six - 18A

Doesn't look as cool when they're all the same, I suppose. Aspari (talk) 20:47, 8 August 2018 (EDT)