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Image categories

Just to inform you, I've started rearranging some of the image categories into a more coherent and specific system, largely based on that of the Star Wars wiki. Undoubtedly, this will take time and work, but I felt that our old system was cumbersome and obsolete. For example, the new standard is in line with our current capitalization policy and using the term "images" makes more sense than "screenshots" in the context of the ever-expanding Halo media. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 06:08, 3 February 2011 (EST)

Great. :) — subtank 06:13, 3 February 2011 (EST)

Thanks!

Wanted to thank you for creating that handy template for the Firefight sub-types. Realized yesterday that only Rocketfight and Sniperfight had their own pages, so I set them up for the rest. That box will make navigating between them much easier than the sub-category page I threw together. Captain J 18:27, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

MA37 talk page

I don't know if it's just my luck or something, but that Archive button only worked until after you resurrected it. God damn I hate MediaWiki...haha. User:CommanderTony/Sig

Halopedian is glitching for me all of a sudden. First, it took an incredible amount of time to load up when i first opened it, then it gave me some kind of error message and a partial page. I tried again and it let me in, but it cut the whole top third of the screen off, preventing me from seeing the top banner and accessing the edit button. The only reason I'm able to edit now is because I've had to work around it by manually typing in the "edit" url. I have no idea why this is suddenly happening, as it's nothing like I've ever seen before, and this is a new computer, but it's doing that. On any other wiki I visit, however, it's normal, so I expect its a specific glitch. I don't know if anyone else has this, as obviously they can't edit unless they know to type in the URL. Is this a glitch on the wiki, or is there something on my computer I need checked? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 15:08, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Here's what it looks like: File:Glitch_Screen_Pic.png. 15:13, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Judging from the picture, I think it's a webkit issue. I suggest talking to Steve about this. :) — subtank 15:46, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

Mgalekgolo

Can you add those theories back? Or at least the one comparing them to Praetorians?--Shade 19:03, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

No. The first one regarding the spikes is incorrect; whoever added that in got fooled by the angle of the picture. The second and third trivia have been mentioned in the article. Fourth is irrelevant as it is just gameplay design. The one about Praetorians is irrelevant speculation. The last one about using human title is simply Halo 2 not able to use the updated terminologies established in Ghost of Onyx; the novel was released after the game.— subtank 19:07, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

It's not irrelevant speculation. It was comparing how they are similar and how Hunters might have been based off them. I was playing some AvP games and I got the idea.--Shade 19:08, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

It is because the Mgalekgolo, along with their overall design, was inspired by the Hunters from Marathon series and none other. That's a fact. — subtank 19:14, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

I noticed you deleted one of my images? You said something about an abbreviation called GOO... as far as I know, there was no abbreviation of that. The file was this, and I see no reason to remove it.--Shade 09:36, 28 May 2011 (EDT)

Ah, that deletion comment was for Forerunner, seen only through RecentChanges. Sorry for the confusion. :P

As for why I delete it; it was unused. — subtank 09:46, 28 May 2011 (EDT)

We're covered in unused images - check Special:Unusedfiles to get a picture of what we're dealing with. If you have a place to put it, you could ask us to undelete it.--Forerunner 09:48, 28 May 2011 (EDT)

I intended on using it. I was going to be putting it on my userpage.--Shade 14:43, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Want me to restore it and place it in your userpage? — subtank 15:14, 31 May 2011 (EDT)

Yeah :)--Shade 16:42, 12 June 2011 (EDT)

MO

Considering your work with stands, I felt that you would be best at this (Ok, 343, but I haven't seen him lately). To what extend should we count something as appearing if it is only mentioned in random combat dialogue. Does Yayap appear in the Halo 3 storyline? Do Sam and Jogn appear in Hali Wars? Further, does supplementary material count as an appearance - the HW timeline and HR journal?-- Forerunner 20:20, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Hali Wars? Never heard of it. Joke aside, if the subject is of some importance and relevance to the product, then list it. Here, everything in the Halo Universe can be of great importance to some extent, i.e. John. But to satisfy the relevancy, I guess it would not meet the mark. It is as simple as that.

This is basically a repeat but necessary as clarification. The ones regarding Halo 3 and Halo Wars are quite of some importance, but it is not as relevant as to the whole product; the mentioning of Yayap, Sam and John aren't that relevant to Halo 3 and Halo Wars, respectively, as whole, but they do hold some importance to an extent. As such, they should be excluded for failing to meet the relevance mark. It is, however, different when placing a product as an appearance for a subject, i.e. placing Halo Wars as an appearance in John's article; a simple mention is sufficient. The main reason for these distinct applications is simple; when readers read an article about a product, i.e. HW timeline or Halo Wars, they expect to just see those that is relevant to the game; listing those mentioned once or twice would be redundant. This is different when reading an article about a subject, i.e. characters or weapons.

Supplementary material, being supplementary to a product, should not be listed as an appearance; instead, they should be listed under the "See also" section. — subtank 07:49, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Halopedia Reach font

Here you go, Subbles. My Paint.NET skills are limited, so it's a bit rough. If you think it's usable, maybe you can touch it up a bit? Template:Arby116Sig

Images

Just wondering why were keeping those images they don't look right ? "A Penny saved is a Penny earned" 15:54, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Because they are related to the subject of the article.— subtank 15:58, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Ok thanks:) "A Penny saved is a Penny earned" 16:11, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Deletions

These four articles absolutely should exist. Why wait for further details to create the articles?

• Hang 'Em High (Anniversary remake)
• Timberland (Anniversary remake)
• Damnation (Anniversary remake)
• Beaver Creek (Anniversary remake)

It's better to funnel in editors onto something that has already been created. LobStoR (talk) 20:54, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

Little is known about them. Additionally, users will simply add their own conjectures and other trivial information, like they did in the past. Such activity would later promote speculations as facts. As such, it's best to keep the information in their current form, that is as trivia in the original multiplayer map articles, until more information is released.— subtank 21:01, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

I agree, these articles would just be short mentioning that would be constantly targeted by speculation. It is better to create a page for something after there is sufficient information. --DKong ^{Talk Cont} 21:05, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

OK, well then I guess I'll go start adding confirmed screenshots and information about these maps into the trivia sections of their predecessors, since these maps don't (currently) warrant having their own article. LobStoR (talk) 21:08, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

This is stupid, they need their own pages, just make the pages, put the info we know and screen shots and then lock the pages. —This unsigned comment was made by ArchedThunder (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Sorry to tell you this but only admins can lock pages;) "A Penny saved is a Penny earned" 00:20, 11 June 2011 (EDT)

Problems with Convert template

A user recently messaged me about a problem with Template:Convert and I was wondering if you knew something about it. I'm not sure if it's specific to certain users, but the whole template seems more or less messed up in infoboxes. For a particularly noticeable example, see Jun-A266. I'm not sure how it could cause this, but could it be linked to the fact I recently categorized some of the sub-templates of the Convert template? Would it be better to remove the categories? --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 03:40, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

If any of your s are placed on a different line to the template's ending, or if you merged some lines, you could brake the coding - it's ' 'extremely complex and one error can take out the whole thing.-- Forerunner 06:17, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

I didn't merge any of the lines, just put in the categories in noinclude tags. Reverting them seems to have fixed the problem though - I knew these things were fragile, but I had no idea something like this would be enough to break them. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 08:13, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

Guess this is solved?— subtank 08:39, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, it would seem so. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 08:57, 9 June 2011 (EDT)

Exodus

Hi, I think it's awesome that you uploaded the pictures of Halo: Reach campaign level infobox. But Exodus is missing its picture. Can you upload Exodus's in-game image? Thanks. (I'm a format freak :P) —S331 _{(When I played Halo: CE, we didn't have any fancy-shmancy armor abilities...)} 12:39, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

Can't seem to find it. According to one particular source, it is not available in Bungie's server.— subtank 12:56, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

Oh, okay. Thanks for trying anyways. —S331 _{(When I played Halo: CE, we didn't have any fancy-shmancy armor abilities...)} 20:39, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

Nevermind, I checked, and I found it. :D —S331 _{(When I played Halo: CE, we didn't have any fancy-shmancy armor abilities...)} 21:41, 31 July 2011 (EDT)

Gif

Hey Subs. Could you shrink down this .gif I made for the Energy Shield page please?

Oh, and fancy reading a review? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 17:01, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

Done and a good read. Needs more pictures though. :P — subtank 00:21, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

Hm, more pictures. I'll have to see which paragraphs deserve them then. Otherwise, glad you liked it and thanks for resizing the image.

One thing, though: I notice the animation runs much smoother now. How did you do that? I tried making the .gif directly from the Bungie video, but my computer wouldn't recognize the flv. file and I ended up simply taking pictures of the paused screen. How did you make the smooth one? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 00:40, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

Oh, the file you provided was unusable... so I rerecorded the ViDoc and recreated the GIF myself using third party freeware. :P — subtank 01:29, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

Can you tell me what software you used? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 02:13, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

CamStudio and MovieToAGif.— subtank 09:29, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

DPL issue

Hey Subtank, wondering if there was anything you could do for the <DPL> bits that feature one's created articles, and similar content. Or rather, is the current software were using hindering its abilities. Thanks and have a good one Kai!

Cheers!
User:CommanderTony/Sig

I talked to Steve about this a while ago, and he told me he removed the DPL extension because it was causing problems.--ハローファン (H1234-NET) 23:15, 9 September 2011 (EDT)

Ahh thanks for the head's up HF! User:CommanderTony/Sig

Haha your welcome!--ハローファン (H1234-NET) 15:02, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

The Walrus of Approval

General5 7 has given me permission to edit her draft to remove "The Artifact" redirect from it. The draft is protected, so I can't edit, so could you do so for me please? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 18:03, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Ask an administrator; it's locked even for patrollers. :( — subtank 18:05, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Dear, Subtank

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Per ASCII above... you could have checked this little cool tool.— subtank 17:59, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

Terminal template

There seems to be a problem with Template:Terminal. I'm not sure if it appeared after you updated it a few days ago, but I recently noticed that any long enough text put into the template tends to continue over the gray area's edge and occasionally disappear a couple of lines after that. This should be evident in most of the transcript sections on the Terminal/Halo 3 page. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 12:24, 20 November 2011 (EST)

Looks like I forgot to undo one little mistake. Should be fixed.— subtank 13:46, 20 November 2011 (EST)

Question

Could you please look at www.helljumper.com. Seems as though they are making a video series based on Dirt from Halo: Evolutions. My question to you is is this notable enough for an article here? I thought I'd ask you because it seems like your the expert on notability. Thanks.--Commander 光环的家伙1234 Talk (Contribs) (Edits) 23:50, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I don't see why not. There have been multiple press sites that interviewed and documented the film's development. :) — subtank 06:44, 27 November 2011 (EST)

Congrats!

Since I phailed with the board messages...

Congratulations, Subtank!--Commander Halofan1234 (I say the cabal does not exist) 21:52, 6 December 2011 (EST)

XD — subtank 15:24, 7 December 2011 (EST)

RE: Double Redirects

I was able able to fix one of them, but the other one is protected so I can't edit it.--Commander Spartacus (Tenth Roman Battalion) 21:46, 20 December 2011 (EST)

Challange References

I noticed that the trivia section on the Challenges article is just a list of references. Since it's just references, could I move them to a subpage or some sort of "List of Halo: Reach challenge references"?--Commander Spartacus (Tenth Roman Battalion) 21:23, 22 December 2011 (EST)

Why not leave them as they are? They don't really clutter the page and nicely formatted.— subtank 10:23, 23 December 2011 (EST)

Javascript

Well, I am Sorunome, admin of Seerowpedia and I have a (quite) advanced question on how wikia works and I gor redirected to you, so here's my question: I have on that wiki some javascript for hiding infoboxes aswell in Common,js and in Wikia.js, but somehow it doesn't seem to work. I think that it just doesn't load to any pages. Could you please help me? Sorunome 06:09, 28 December 2011 (EST)

Responded on linked wiki. — subtank 11:58, 29 December 2011 (EST)

Data Drop/Transmissions

Hello there,

Nicmavr suggested that I message you after speaking to him over the IRC about the Data Drop work that you did. Which I have to say is pretty cool, innovative stuff. :)

Basically, what I'm trying to do is immitate your [template?] in a similarly styled set of articles on the HaloFanon wikia. I'm having just a tiny little bit of difficulty getting it working though. And would greatly appreciate your assistance! :D

This is the main article: http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Transmissions

I guess whatever I'm doing, I must be doing it wrong because the tabs aren't working. Also, I can't seem to make the font become black, which makes reading the transmission a tad difficult. :\

If you could take a look at it for me, that would be really sweet! Thank you, and have a Happy New Year! -TheLostJedi 10:48, 2 January 2012 (EST)

That's because Tabbox extension is not available on Wikia. :P

You would need to use the Tabber extension instead. Feel free to inspect my userpage on Dead Space wiki as an example. :) — subtank 06:45, 3 January 2012 (EST)

Redirect reversal

Hi, I am wondering if it is possible for you to reverse a redirect?

Release currently redirects to Release (level), though it should be the other way around since there is nothing that shares the name "Release", therefore rendering the (level) unneeded. Thanks.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs}

Done.— subtank 11:32, 24 January 2012 (EST)

RE: Userpage

Why thank you. :)--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs}

Hmm

O hai Subtank! Could you please protect this page from editing for a while? If you look at the history, you'll see what the problem is. Thanks.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs}

Derping Around in Weapon Infobox

Hey Subtank, did I change the title in the Weapon Infobox page correctly? Vegerot wanted to change the title from "Manufacturer" to "Known manufacturers"... Or are we not suppose to do this? —S331 _{(COM • Mission Log • Profile)} 09:17, 21 February 2012 (EST)

Correctly, yes. Whether you should, I don't think so. The reason being that the template was for general use and not specific; in other words, most weapon articles are of one manufacturer and not multiple. The infobox thus has to cater for the majority and offer an alternative for the minority. If a user feels the need that the title of a field be changed, all they have to do is add a new field with "-title" after the field name (i.e. manufacturer-title= Known manufacturers).— subtank 12:27, 21 February 2012 (EST)

Alright, I just wanted to help Vegerot. Thanks for explaining. —S331 _{(COM • Mission Log • Profile)} 19:09, 21 February 2012 (EST)

Spartacus' Fail

Thanks for uploading that photo. Just wondering, how did you get it?--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 20:57 24 March 2012 (EST)

I got sources. :) — subtank 20:59, 24 March 2012 (EDT)

Mount Erebus

Per above, do you think this article meets the Notability Policy?--File:Colonel Grade One.png Col. Spartacus ^{Talk Page} _{Contributions} ^Contact 21:16, 30 March 2012 (EDT)

Misuse of the "Indirect mention" tag

There's been some misuse of the Indirect mention template, and Jugus, the others, and I agree that it needs to be changed to make its appropriate use more clear. Read this, this, and this for the context and explanation. Anyway, you're in charge of the Appearances template, so decide what should be altered to prevent mishaps like these again. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 14:04, 2 April 2012 (EDT)

Actually, I was never in charge of the new Appearances templates. I was in charge of the old one (there was only one) but the consensus on that one was not to use it. Forerunner, I believe, is the one who spearheaded the new Appearances template. But we're getting off topic. However, on a related note, someone really needs to update the layout guide... it's outdated by two years! :O

I would adopt what Jugus has said in this talkpage. A permanent solution to this is to create a guide on using the wiki (something that is on my To-Do list, right after creating a FAQ in Halopedia using Dead Space Wiki as a primary reference since it has worked quite well there), of which would include what the wiki means by "indirect mention".— subtank 14:31, 2 April 2012 (EDT)

Ah, well Template:Appearances had said to refer to you for questions, so I assumed that meant you were in charge of it. But it's true, the layout guide does need a bunch of new information to be added, such as infobox images being portraits rather than full body images, images of specific ships having backgrounds while ship classes have transparent ones, and and being like a document by ONI and using the images most recent in the timeline. I'll speak to the admins on this then, see if we can add these updates. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 15:15, 2 April 2012 (EDT)

Don't trust the main page (you can trust the "Main Page", just not the main page of a page). :P — subtank 15:27, 2 April 2012 (EDT)

Reflist

If I read the template page and remembered clearly, the Reflist is <references/> with columns. But apparently this isn't the case. Or am I just delirious and the whole "<references/> with columns" is just an illusion? Help? —S331 _{(COM • Mission Log • Profile)} 07:31, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

It is... isn't it? — subtank 13:47, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

I don't think so...

Maybe we are all delirious! :D </sarcasm>. Seriously though, I can haz troubleshoot plz? —S331 _{(COM • Mission Log • Profile)} 06:44, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Fixed. Apparently, webkit users was not able to see it in columns because it was not specified as such in the template.— subtank 08:03, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Oh Sub so reliable. :D —S331 _{(COM • Mission Log • Profile)} 08:37, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

Diff glitch

I am getting a weird glitch when I try to view the diff of edits on this page. Here is the URL and here is a screenshot.-- Col. Spartacus ^{Talk Page} _{Contributions} 10:36, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

I suggest refer to an administrator or Steve.— subtank 10:45, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

Removing very high-res screenshots

Hey Subtank, is there really a need to remove very high-res screenshots? There are HUD details (the suit BIOS, for example) that can't be discerned at lower resolutions. Users can choose to open lower-res versions of the image anyway if they don't have the bandwidth to load the full picture, so I don't think reverting to 1920px is necessary. -Kronos101 16:54, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

That last sentence is the issue: by clicking the link to the image, the page will load up the image's original size. This is set by default bys the wiki. This can, however, be prevented if the user ha set a size limit in their preferences... but the likelihood of anyone actually setting a size limit is very very little. Of course, if we can change the settings to view it only at 1920px as the default size, then this wouldn't be an issue... pester Steve/Porplemontage about it perhaps? :P — subtank 16:59, 2 May 2012 (EDT)