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It has been noted that the point defense gun is used primarily as a defensive weapon against single ships and missles, but now I have seen that they may also be used in an offensive role against larger targets. This can be seen when the frigate Savannah engages the Ardent Prayer during Operation:UPPERCUT and on Condemned; the frigate is laying down fire on another light capital warship (covenant corvette). So should the page mention that the point defense gun can be used, at least under the right circumstances, in an offensive role against at least light capital warships? Should it also be noted that other variants and sizes of point defense guns may exist to fulfill different roles?--[[User talk:UNSCSILVERSTREAK|UNSCSILVERSTREAK]] 00:10, 4 April 2011 (EDT) | It has been noted that the point defense gun is used primarily as a defensive weapon against single ships and missles, but now I have seen that they may also be used in an offensive role against larger targets. This can be seen when the frigate Savannah engages the Ardent Prayer during Operation:UPPERCUT and on Condemned; the frigate is laying down fire on another light capital warship (covenant corvette). So should the page mention that the point defense gun can be used, at least under the right circumstances, in an offensive role against at least light capital warships? Should it also be noted that other variants and sizes of point defense guns may exist to fulfill different roles?--[[User talk:UNSCSILVERSTREAK|UNSCSILVERSTREAK]] 00:10, 4 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
:It is used 'primarily' as a defense gun. The reason the Savannah was using the point defense guns against the corvette was that corvettes have no shields, but even then, they were virtually ineffective, it was more of a distraction than anything. To use those in ship to ship combat is, as obvious from the fate of the Savannah, suicidal. [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:Blue">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] | :It is used 'primarily' as a defense gun. The reason the Savannah was using the point defense guns against the corvette was that corvettes have no shields, but even then, they were virtually ineffective, it was more of a distraction than anything. To use those in ship to ship combat is, as obvious from the fate of the Savannah, suicidal. [[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:Blue">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] Image:File:CPO GC (USN).png|14px 06:20, 4 April 2011 (EDT) | ||
That does'nt change the fact, though, that the heavy frigates are laying down fire on the corvettes in an offensive manner. Suicidal as it is, frigates, have at least shown the capability to use their guns to lay down suppresive fire in this particular role. If this tactic were to be used against heavier capital ships is most unlikely, though. --[[User talk:UNSCSILVERSTREAK|UNSCSILVERSTREAK]] 00:32, 1 May 2011 (EDT) | That does'nt change the fact, though, that the heavy frigates are laying down fire on the corvettes in an offensive manner. Suicidal as it is, frigates, have at least shown the capability to use their guns to lay down suppresive fire in this particular role. If this tactic were to be used against heavier capital ships is most unlikely, though. --[[User talk:UNSCSILVERSTREAK|UNSCSILVERSTREAK]] 00:32, 1 May 2011 (EDT) | ||
:I'd say it just lends support to the arguments near the top that the mounts we can see aren't anything like 50mm. In fact using rough scaling from the frigates stated length you get a rather close match for 400ish mm battleship caliber weapons. Given the scale in relation to the vessel the weapons being medium caliber (compared to a MAC) "Dual purpose" mounts makes the most sense to me. We know Deck guns/mid sized EM weapons exist and they appear to be showing up more and more with each passing game. The much smaller true "PD" mounts could simply be concealed behind armored doors or the like. Speculation though, but I don't buy for a second that the large mounts being used against ships in the game are 50mm. [[Special:Contributions/174.98.251.42|174.98.251.42]] 06:26, 16 September 2013 (EDT) | :I'd say it just lends support to the arguments near the top that the mounts we can see aren't anything like 50mm. In fact using rough scaling from the frigates stated length you get a rather close match for 400ish mm battleship caliber weapons. Given the scale in relation to the vessel the weapons being medium caliber (compared to a MAC) "Dual purpose" mounts makes the most sense to me. We know Deck guns/mid sized EM weapons exist and they appear to be showing up more and more with each passing game. The much smaller true "PD" mounts could simply be concealed behind armored doors or the like. Speculation though, but I don't buy for a second that the large mounts being used against ships in the game are 50mm. [[Special:Contributions/174.98.251.42|174.98.251.42]] 06:26, 16 September 2013 (EDT) | ||