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This is probably a really obvious and irritating question, so sorry to disturb you. Thanks. [[User:81.151.247.65|81.151.247.65]] 18:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:Because species such as the Humans and the covenants' multiple races were taken to the Ark, where they were kept safe. [[User Talk:ONI recon 111|1st]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|Class]] [[~~w:c:~~halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|Cadet]] [[User:ONI recon 111|ONI recon 111]] | File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]] 18:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:Because species such as the Humans and the covenants' multiple races were taken to the Ark, where they were kept safe. [[User Talk:ONI recon 111|1st]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|Class]] [[halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|Cadet]] [[User:ONI recon 111|ONI recon 111]] | File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]] 18:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

::The only question that leaves is, how did all the protected races get to their homeworlds, with no knowledge or memory of the Ark, without memory or knowledge of each other and no knowledge of the sentinels etc on the Ark? '''[[User:HaloDude|Ti]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|'''ger''']][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|'''rr''']][[~~w:c:~~halofanon:User:HaloDude|'''rr''']] 18:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

::The only question that leaves is, how did all the protected races get to their homeworlds, with no knowledge or memory of the Ark, without memory or knowledge of each other and no knowledge of the sentinels etc on the Ark? '''[[User:HaloDude|Ti]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|'''ger''']][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|'''rr''']][[halofanon:User:HaloDude|'''rr''']] 18:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

:::We don't know yet. [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 21:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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:::::Aside from it taking plenty of time for live to evolve, if the Halos truly destroyed ALL life, there'd be nothing to evolve FROM. I suppose the only posibility is if a specimen was saved (Ark or Shield World) then rereleased back into the galaxy after they thought the Flood had starved to death. The specimen(s) then evolved into the creatures we know today. Also, I think it is possible if ALL life evolved from Forerunner and this is what happened: Flood fought Forerunner. Forerunner scared so Forerunner hide and Forerunner fire the Halos. Forerunne think Flood dead so Forerunner come out of Shield World. Idividual (groups of) Forerunner go to different planets and evolve/devolve from there to suit their new enviroments. (This may or may not be possible, I hadn't really thought it out fully.) One more thing, this one about Local Time. Local time may vary from Installation to Installation. This 'local time' may be the time of the system each Halo is in, based on it's orbit of a star or planet. The time may also vary due to the different sizes that the Halos have. Alternatively, the local time of all the Halos could be the same as it may refer to the ancient format which the Forerunner used.

::::::Who says they had no memory? Mythology comes from somewhere - where there's smoke, there's fire. Flood myths are pretty common across all human-occupied continents, with most cultures and religions having them in some form - the earth gets scoured, with a few survivors who start again. In the Halo Universe, it may be a folktale memory of when the Forerunners saved them from The Flood, wiped the galaxy clean, and returned them to their planet to start again. -- [[Halopedia:Administrators|Administrator]] [[User:Specops306|Specops306]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|Qur'a 'Morhek]]'' ''[[~~w:c:~~halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|Honour Light Your Way!]]'' 02:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

::::::Who says they had no memory? Mythology comes from somewhere - where there's smoke, there's fire. Flood myths are pretty common across all human-occupied continents, with most cultures and religions having them in some form - the earth gets scoured, with a few survivors who start again. In the Halo Universe, it may be a folktale memory of when the Forerunners saved them from The Flood, wiped the galaxy clean, and returned them to their planet to start again. -- [[Halopedia:Administrators|Administrator]] [[User:Specops306|Specops306]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|Qur'a 'Morhek]]'' ''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|Honour Light Your Way!]]'' 02:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

:::::::I'd like to make reference to the terminals describing one of the forerunners finding earth. I'd also like to point out that any planet in a green zone with a stabilizing moon and a helathy organic soup can evolve life fairly quickly, within a few million years. Most flood Myths on earth come from actual water flooding, Bungie has used this as a metaphor to describe the parasite. The Ark's design may have been a failsafe against the flood, almost like a fallout shelter would be used next to a helipad. If you can't get the helicopter, use the shelter. Likely, The ray would effect The cerebral cortex, or the frontal lobe, which only occurs in species capable of becoming sentient. What happened to the forerunners is unknown, there is a good chance, that they simply all died. If they did change location or transcend their condition, Then they would've been fully capable of influencing evoltion to reproduce their species Cosmically. By planting and forming life on earth, they would've been able to re-create their own evolutionary history, creatures like the dimetrodon, mammals, and eventually lead up to human. They clearly exhibit the capability to do this, as noted by Catherine Halsey, Charting The events for the slipsace crystal, or john's own "luck."

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I'm Greek, and I know my country's alphabet. - [[User:JEA13|'''Μητσάρας''']] [[User talk:JEA13|'''κι όποιος''']] [[Special:Contributions/JEA13|'''αντέξει''']] File:1229655910-Th_master.jpg|20px]]

:No, they shouldn't be named as that. The UNSC gave the greek letters. Installation 04 was encountered first, and is therefore Alpha Halo. I'm not sure how that works for Delta halo, as it was found second, and should be Beta, but we have currently listed them to how the Halo games have presented them, so therefore, canon. '''[[User:HaloDude|Ti]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|'''ger''']][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|'''rr''']][[~~w:c:~~halofanon:User:HaloDude|'''rr''']] 21:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

:No, they shouldn't be named as that. The UNSC gave the greek letters. Installation 04 was encountered first, and is therefore Alpha Halo. I'm not sure how that works for Delta halo, as it was found second, and should be Beta, but we have currently listed them to how the Halo games have presented them, so therefore, canon. '''[[User:HaloDude|Ti]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|'''ger''']][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|'''rr''']][[halofanon:User:HaloDude|'''rr''']] 21:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

*They're supposed to be wrong, thats how they are in the Halo universe. [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 21:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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There seems to be several contradictions of the number of 'Halo' installations created. In Halo: Cryptum, it is stated that 12 were commissioned, and it can be assumed that the 5 that Mendicant Bias tried to control were destroyed, leaving the 7 from the games. However, when Bornstella reaches the Ark, he sees 6 rings that were above the ark, and learns that only 1 survived the transition from the capital to the Ark, meaning that there were 5 OTHER Halos that had been commissioned. Anyone have any explanations for this? [[User talk:Anriel|Anriel]] 02:15, 26 January 2011 (EST)

:I got the impression that all seven of them came through the portal, but one of them was damaged from the transition. I'll have to go back to that section - if not, then the rest of the Halo's at the Capital were probably destroyed when Mendicant Bias fired his own. -- [[User:Specops306|Specops306]] [[~~w:c:~~halofanon:user:Specops306|Autocrat]] [[User talk:Specops306|Qur'a 'Morhek]] 04:06, 26 January 2011 (EST)

:I got the impression that all seven of them came through the portal, but one of them was damaged from the transition. I'll have to go back to that section - if not, then the rest of the Halo's at the Capital were probably destroyed when Mendicant Bias fired his own. -- [[User:Specops306|Specops306]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|Autocrat]] [[User talk:Specops306|Qur'a 'Morhek]] 04:06, 26 January 2011 (EST)

:: Hate to say it but you're wrong there were 18. Chapter 40 pg 329, final paragraph "I was looking upon another array of installations:six rings," Then again pg 335, second paragraph "In the battle of the capital, only on installation had survived the passage through the portal without breaking up." So we have Faber's 12 and the Librarian's 6. Of the 12 one makes it back, and that gives us the final seven. [[User talk:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 01:46, 23 February 2011 (EST)

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 This is probably a really obvious and irritating question, so sorry to disturb you. Thanks. [[User:81.151.247.65|81.151.247.65]] 18:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-:Because species such as the Humans and the covenants' multiple races were taken to the Ark, where they were kept safe. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b>File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 18:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
+:Because species such as the Humans and the covenants' multiple races were taken to the Ark, where they were kept safe. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b>File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 18:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
-::The only question that leaves is, how did all the protected races get to their homeworlds, with no knowledge or memory of the Ark, without memory or knowledge of each other and no knowledge of the sentinels etc on the Ark? '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 18:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
+::The only question that leaves is, how did all the protected races get to their homeworlds, with no knowledge or memory of the Ark, without memory or knowledge of each other and no knowledge of the sentinels etc on the Ark? '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 18:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 :::We don't know yet. [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 21:04, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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 :::::Aside from it taking plenty of time for live to evolve, if the Halos truly destroyed ALL life, there'd be nothing to evolve FROM. I suppose the only posibility is if a specimen was saved (Ark or Shield World) then rereleased back into the galaxy after they thought the Flood had starved to death. The specimen(s) then evolved into the creatures we know today. Also, I think it is possible if ALL life evolved from Forerunner and this is what happened: Flood fought Forerunner. Forerunner scared so Forerunner hide and Forerunner fire the Halos. Forerunne think Flood dead so Forerunner come out of Shield World. Idividual (groups of) Forerunner go to different planets and evolve/devolve from there to suit their new enviroments. (This may or may not be possible, I hadn't really thought it out fully.) One more thing, this one about Local Time. Local time may vary from Installation to Installation. This 'local time' may be the time of the system each Halo is in, based on it's orbit of a star or planet. The time may also vary due to the different sizes that the Halos have. Alternatively, the local time of all the Halos could be the same as it may refer to the ancient format which the Forerunner used.
-::::::Who says they had no memory? Mythology comes from somewhere - where there's smoke, there's fire. Flood myths are pretty common across all human-occupied continents, with most cultures and religions having them in some form - the earth gets scoured, with a few survivors who start again. In the Halo Universe, it may be a folktale memory of when the Forerunners saved them from The Flood, wiped the galaxy clean, and returned them to their planet to start again. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 02:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
+::::::Who says they had no memory? Mythology comes from somewhere - where there's smoke, there's fire. Flood myths are pretty common across all human-occupied continents, with most cultures and religions having them in some form - the earth gets scoured, with a few survivors who start again. In the Halo Universe, it may be a folktale memory of when the Forerunners saved them from The Flood, wiped the galaxy clean, and returned them to their planet to start again. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 02:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 :::::::I'd like to make reference to the terminals describing one of the forerunners finding earth. I'd also like to point out that any planet in a green zone with a stabilizing moon and a helathy organic soup can evolve life fairly quickly, within a few million years. Most flood Myths on earth come from actual water flooding, Bungie has used this as a metaphor to describe the parasite. The Ark's design may have been a failsafe against the flood, almost like a fallout shelter would be used next to a helipad. If you can't get the helicopter, use the shelter. Likely, The ray would effect The cerebral cortex, or the frontal lobe, which only occurs in species capable of becoming sentient. What happened to the forerunners is unknown, there is a good chance, that they simply all died. If they did change location or transcend their condition, Then they would've been fully capable of influencing evoltion to reproduce their species Cosmically. By planting and forming life on earth, they would've been able to re-create their own evolutionary history, creatures like the dimetrodon, mammals, and eventually lead up to human. They clearly exhibit the capability to do this, as noted by Catherine Halsey, Charting The events for the slipsace crystal, or john's own "luck."<br />
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 I'm Greek, and I know my country's alphabet. - [[User:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">Μητσάρας</span>''']] [[User talk:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">κι όποιος</span>''']] [[Special:Contributions/JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">αντέξει</span>''']] File:1229655910-Th_master.jpg|20px]]
-:No, they shouldn't be named as that. The UNSC gave the greek letters. Installation 04 was encountered first, and is therefore Alpha Halo. I'm not sure how that works for Delta halo, as it was found second, and should be Beta, but we have currently listed them to how the Halo games have presented them, so therefore, canon. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 21:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
+:No, they shouldn't be named as that. The UNSC gave the greek letters. Installation 04 was encountered first, and is therefore Alpha Halo. I'm not sure how that works for Delta halo, as it was found second, and should be Beta, but we have currently listed them to how the Halo games have presented them, so therefore, canon. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 21:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 *They're supposed to be wrong, thats how they are in the Halo universe. [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 21:02, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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 There seems to be several contradictions of the number of 'Halo' installations created. In Halo: Cryptum, it is stated that 12 were commissioned, and it can be assumed that the 5 that Mendicant Bias tried to control were destroyed, leaving the 7 from the games. However, when Bornstella reaches the Ark, he sees 6 rings that were above the ark, and learns that only 1 survived the transition from the capital to the Ark, meaning that there were 5 OTHER Halos that had been commissioned. Anyone have any explanations for this? [[User talk:Anriel|Anriel]] 02:15, 26 January 2011 (EST)
-:I got the impression that all seven of them came through the portal, but one of them was damaged from the transition. I'll have to go back to that section - if not, then the rest of the Halo's at the Capital were probably destroyed when Mendicant Bias fired his own. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:06, 26 January 2011 (EST)
+:I got the impression that all seven of them came through the portal, but one of them was damaged from the transition. I'll have to go back to that section - if not, then the rest of the Halo's at the Capital were probably destroyed when Mendicant Bias fired his own. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:06, 26 January 2011 (EST)
 :: Hate to say it but you're wrong there were 18. Chapter 40 pg 329, final paragraph "I was looking upon another array of installations:six rings," Then again pg 335, second paragraph "In the battle of the capital, only on installation had survived the passage through the portal without breaking up." So we have Faber's 12 and the Librarian's 6. Of the 12 one makes it back, and that gives us the final seven. [[User talk:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] 01:46, 23 February 2011 (EST)