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::Information from ''The Essential Visual Guide'' and the new ''Encyclopedia'' all but confirm that ''General'' is an actual rank, not just a title. The ''EVG'''s description of the General's duties describes Field Masters perfectly, so: A) "General" and "Field Master" are synonymous, as Subtank has suggested; or B) most Field Masters are Generals, but Sangheili of other ranks can hold the title, much like Shipmasters. Page 52 of ''The Art of Building Worlds'' settles the gold armor debacle: ''"Elites have their own hierarchy, and their rank can be ascertained by the color of their armor. A useful tool on the battlefield, for sure, <u>with gold marking out field commanders</u>, red indicating a veteran, and blue marking out an Elite's status as standard infantry."'' Furthermore, the ''EVG'' states that the gold-armored Elites in ''Combat Evolved'' and ''Halo 2'' are Zealots; thus, the gold-armored Zealots in the first two games are actually Zealot field commanders, possibly Field Marshals in alternate armor, though, as a rule, gold armor does not represent one's status as a Zealot. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:09, 7 November 2011 (EST) | ::Information from ''The Essential Visual Guide'' and the new ''Encyclopedia'' all but confirm that ''General'' is an actual rank, not just a title. The ''EVG'''s description of the General's duties describes Field Masters perfectly, so: A) "General" and "Field Master" are synonymous, as Subtank has suggested; or B) most Field Masters are Generals, but Sangheili of other ranks can hold the title, much like Shipmasters. Page 52 of ''The Art of Building Worlds'' settles the gold armor debacle: ''"Elites have their own hierarchy, and their rank can be ascertained by the color of their armor. A useful tool on the battlefield, for sure, <u>with gold marking out field commanders</u>, red indicating a veteran, and blue marking out an Elite's status as standard infantry."'' Furthermore, the ''EVG'' states that the gold-armored Elites in ''Combat Evolved'' and ''Halo 2'' are Zealots; thus, the gold-armored Zealots in the first two games are actually Zealot field commanders, possibly Field Marshals in alternate armor, though, as a rule, gold armor does not represent one's status as a Zealot. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:09, 7 November 2011 (EST) | ||
:::Ok. So Specialist Elites belong in the Special Warfare Group through either Fleet Security or Special Operations. That all makes perfect sense to me, so thanks guys. I'm still rather confused about Zealots though. :P | |||
:::Either "Zealot" is an actual rank, or "Field Master/Commander" is, going by the fact that all Halo: CE and Halo 2 era gold armoured Elites are "Zealot Field Commanders" by Braidenvl's source. And if neither of those titles are ranks then what are these gold split-jawed bastards? xD | |||
:::This may be a stretch, but perhaps they hold both titles of "Zealot" and "Field Master", whilst "General" is their actual rank. I come to this conclusion because the newer matrial Jugus mentions describes "Zealot" as more of an ideology than rank. Whilst the EVG and Encyclopedia appear to confirm General as a rank. Whilst I agree that Ship Master is likely just a title, as we've seen various ranking Elites assume the role. | |||
:::It would mean that all Golden Elites are in fact "Generals", whilst "Zealot", "Field Master", "Ship Master", "Fleet Master" and possibly also "Supreme Commander" are all titles which can be more loosely applied. Imperial Admiral and Field Marshal are obviously ranks of their own. The only issue would be that the Zealot-subset in Halo: Reach, below Field Marshals lack an actual rank name. Though that still doesn't exactly make this theory invalid. I can't see any glarish flaws in this reasoning anyway. Can you guys? I'm just trying to make sense of it all hehe. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 23:14, 8 November 2011 (EST) | |||
== Arent humans strategically better than Sangheili. == | == Arent humans strategically better than Sangheili. == | ||