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==Human==
==Human==
===Flamethrower===
===Flamethrower===
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Also found in the ''Halo 2'' beta, the [[M7057 flamethrower]] first [[Cut Halo: Combat Evolved weapons|cut from]] ''[[Halo: Combat Evolved]]'' and later featured in ''[[Halo: Combat Evolved (PC port)|Halo PC]]'' was similarly cut from ''Halo 2''.{{Ref/Reuse|H2BWeapons}} The weapon was rebuilt by [[Robert McLees]] for ''Halo 2'' based on the original ''Combat Evolved'' model, and was remarked upon as the most difficult to model to rebuild, based on the most difficult model to build in the first game.{{Ref/YouTube|Id=H2CE|DWI7AhQFpTE|Bungie|Cutting Room Floor Weapons Vehicles and Characters|Y=2020|M=12|D=17|Detail=Official Bungie upload of the BTS video from the ''Halo 2'' Collector's Edition}}
Also found in the ''Halo 2'' beta, the [[M7057 flamethrower]] first [[Cut Halo: Combat Evolved weapons|cut from]] ''[[Halo: Combat Evolved]]'' and later featured in ''[[Halo: Combat Evolved (PC port)|Halo PC]]'' was similarly cut from ''Halo 2''.{{Ref/Reuse|H2BWeapons}} The weapon was rebuilt by [[Robert McLees]] for ''Halo 2'' based on the original ''Combat Evolved'' model, and was remarked upon as the most difficult to model to rebuild, based on the most difficult model to build in the first game.{{Ref/YouTube|Id=H2CE|DWI7AhQFpTE|Bungie|Cutting Room Floor Weapons Vehicles and Characters|Y=2020|M=12|D=17|Detail=Official Bungie upload of the BTS video from the ''Halo 2'' Collector's Edition}}


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===Disintegrator===
===Disintegrator===
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A [[Covenant]] counterpart to the UNSC Flamethrower, the Disintegrator is featured in the ''[[Halo 2 Beta]]'' and can be spawned via [[modding]]. The weapons is untextured and fires flame-like particle effects - though in third-person the effects are more akin to a kind of red [[plasma]]. The weapon appears to have a cooldown bar of some kind around the reticule, though this is nonfunctional in the beta.{{Ref/Twitter|Id=H2BWeapons|vengeful_vadam|1262137145399091201|The Vengeful 'Vadam|Quote=In the Halo 2 Beta, there were two cut weapons: -The Flamethrower, which would be repurposed to become the Halo 3 Flamethrower -The Disintegrator, a Covenant counterpart to the Flamethrower.|D=08|M=9|Y=2021}}
A [[Covenant]] counterpart to the UNSC Flamethrower, the Disintegrator is featured in the ''[[Halo 2 Beta]]'' and can be spawned via [[modding]]. The weapons is untextured and fires flame-like particle effects - though in third-person the effects are more akin to a kind of red [[plasma]]. The weapon appears to have a cooldown bar of some kind around the reticule, though this is nonfunctional in the beta.{{Ref/Twitter|Id=H2BWeapons|vengeful_vadam|1262137145399091201|The Vengeful 'Vadam|Quote=In the Halo 2 Beta, there were two cut weapons: -The Flamethrower, which would be repurposed to become the Halo 3 Flamethrower -The Disintegrator, a Covenant counterpart to the Flamethrower.|D=08|M=9|Y=2021}}


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File:H2 Disintegrator TP.png|A Spartan holding the Disintegrator.
File:H2 Disintegrator TP.png|A Spartan holding the Disintegrator.
File:H2 Disintegrator HUD Icon.png|The HUD icon for the Disintegrator, still remaining in the files of ''Halo 2''.
File:H2 Disintegrator HUD Icon.png|The HUD icon for the Disintegrator, still remaining in the files of ''Halo 2''.
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===Plasma mortar===
This weapon is a [[plasma mortar]] seemingly based on the [[Japan]]ese [[Wikipedia:Type 89 grenade discharger|Type-89 "knee mortar"]] from [[World War II]]. The model itself was recovered and released in a mostly-unfinished state by Digsite, with the model itself based on the older ''Combat Evolved'' [[gravity wrench]] design.{{Ref/Site|URL=https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/digsite-deep-dive|Site=Halo Waypoint|Page=Digsite Deep-Dive|D=21|M=06|Y=2024}}
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File:H2 PlasmaMortar Model.jpg|The model for the plasma mortar.
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The "gravity rifle" is a weapon referenced in ''Halo 2'' design documentation. Little is known of its function or affiliation.{{Ref/Reuse|H2:A}} Presumably, it was to be based on a weapon of the [[Cut Halo: Combat Evolved weapons#Gravity rifle|same name]] cut from the original ''Combat Evolved''.
The "gravity rifle" is a weapon referenced in ''Halo 2'' design documentation. Little is known of its function or affiliation.{{Ref/Reuse|H2:A}} Presumably, it was to be based on a weapon of the [[Cut Halo: Combat Evolved weapons#Gravity rifle|same name]] cut from the original ''Combat Evolved''.


===Satchel charge===
===Explosive charges and mines===
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[[Satchel charge]]s are mentioned in ''Halo 2'' design documentation. Little is known of their intended function.{{Ref/Reuse|H2:A}} They were later included in an art piece done by [[Lorraine McLees]] for the gallery section of the ''[[Halo Graphic Novel]]'' (featured below), featuring [[John-117]] surrounded by a menagerie of weapons from ''Halo: Combat Evolved'' and ''Halo 2''.
[[Satchel charge]]s are mentioned in ''Halo 2'' design documentation. Little is known of their intended function.{{Ref/Reuse|H2:A}} They were later included in an art piece done by [[Lorraine McLees]] for the gallery section of the ''[[Halo Graphic Novel]]'' (featured below), featuring [[John-117]] surrounded by a menagerie of weapons from ''Halo: Combat Evolved'' and ''Halo 2''.



Revision as of 05:13, June 21, 2024

This page discusses elements of deleted material and cut content. Some information on the page is sourced from game files and may not be verifiable through external sources. Where possible, such information should be clearly-marked and replaced with a proper external source as soon as one is available.

During the development of Halo 2, a number of weapons were cut from the game's release.

Human

Flamethrower

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Also found in the Halo 2 beta, the M7057 flamethrower first cut from Halo: Combat Evolved and later featured in Halo PC was similarly cut from Halo 2.[1] The weapon was rebuilt by Robert McLees for Halo 2 based on the original Combat Evolved model, and was remarked upon as the most difficult to model to rebuild, based on the most difficult model to build in the first game.[2]

The weapon was eventually realised in Halo 3.

Flashbang grenade

Halo 2 design documents reference a Flashbang grenade, as intended for inclusion in the game. A later change note from October of 2002 notes that to make standard frag grenades more useful outside of damage dealing, the grenades would gain the ability to blind and stun enemies. Max Hoberman speculated that this detail may have been intended for the game's campaign, as opposed to the multiplayer.[3]

General-purpose machine gun (GPMG)

Although the M247 machine gun is featured in-game as a fixed turret, the general purpose machine gun (GPMG) was seemingly intended to also be available for use as a weapon in first-person. In the launch build of Halo 2, strings in the game files referenced the GPMG such as picking up and switching to the weapon. The weapon was not seen physically until the release of Halo 2 on PC as part of Halo: The Master Chief Collection, when the GPMG was added to the game's shared directory, allowing it to be spawned in and used via modding.[4]

The GPMG is complete with firing, reload and melee animations, sound effects and firing particle effects, and features an altered model including a removable magazine and a buttstock not found on the original machine gun model.

Machine gun turret with grenade launcher

In early concept art and builds of Halo 2, the M247 machine gun was attached with an over-barrel grenade launcher. The weapon's texture states that the launcher fires a 20mm grenade,[5] though The Art of Halo: Creating a Virtual World (likely-erroneously) claims that the weapon is a 25mm launcher.[6]

The model file for the turret was recovered by the Digsite project, and used as a basis for making the weapon functional in the retail build of Halo: The Master Chief Collection - though in the original Halo 2 this weapon was purely a nonfunctional prop.[5]

Silenced SMG

At one point in the development of Halo 2, the Suppressed SMG was intended for inclusion. The weapon features unique firing sound effects and particle effects alongside a suppressor on the barrel, though otherwise appears to inherit all the properties of the basic M7 SMG.[4] The M7S would later make its in-game debut in Halo 2 for Windows Vista as a weapon spawn on the map Example, before being prominently featured in Halo 3: ODST. The later release of Halo 2: Anniversary would see the Suppressed SMG included in the game's updated multiplayer component.

The release of Halo 2 on PC in The Master Chief Collection similarly added the Suppressed SMG to the game files, allowing it to be used through the use of modding.[4]

Covenant

Blamite harpoon

Mentioned in Halo 2 design documentation briefly, the "blamite harpoon" was a presumably-Covenant weapon. Little is known of its operation, save that it was to use Blamite as its primary attack method. Max Hoberman discussed his affinity for the harpoon gun cut from Combat Evolved and his want to bring it back - indicating this may have been an evolution on that concept.[3]

Brute Grenade

The Brute Grenades were a grenade type intended for use by Jiralhanae troops during the game. Based on a potential design for incendiary grenades,[7] they were modelled to some degree during the game's development, though ultimately cut. They would later return in Halo 3 as the spike grenade. This weapon is one of many recovered and restored to functionality by the Digsite project.[5]

Disintegrator

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A Covenant counterpart to the UNSC Flamethrower, the Disintegrator is featured in the Halo 2 Beta and can be spawned via modding. The weapons is untextured and fires flame-like particle effects - though in third-person the effects are more akin to a kind of red plasma. The weapon appears to have a cooldown bar of some kind around the reticule, though this is nonfunctional in the beta.[1]

Sound effects for the Disintegrator can be found in the retail build of the Windows Vista port of Halo 2. Located in the sound\weapons\hunter_cannon\hunter_cannon_loop\z_disintegrator_fire\ path, they seem to indicate the Disintegrator was intended to be used by a similarly-cut variant of the Hunter enemy type.[8] The weapon was included in Max Hoberman's Halo 2 multiplayer design documentation.[3]

Plasma mortar

This weapon is a plasma mortar seemingly based on the Japanese Type-89 "knee mortar" from World War II. The model itself was recovered and released in a mostly-unfinished state by Digsite, with the model itself based on the older Combat Evolved gravity wrench design.[9]

Forerunner

Several Sentinel weapons were seemingly cut from Halo 2. All these weapons bear icons with similar designs, depicting a Sentinel beam and a small icon next to it, to denote the specific variant.

Sentinel Needler

" The needler sentinel that was cut from the game dropped a sentinel arm weapon (identical in appearance to the beam weapon) that shot small red needles. It even had its own unique sentinelly, needly crosshair and pickup image."
— David Candland speaks out about the Needler Sentinel.[10]

During earlier stages of Halo 2, the game was intended to include a Needler Sentinel as an enemy. This Sentinel variant was to be armed with a unique weapon, visually identical to the Sentinel beam, that shot small red needles, possibly similar to the shard cannons employed by Enforcers.[11] The weapon was to have its own unique crosshair and weapon pickup icons, which remain in the files of Halo 2 Vista alongside pickup text strings referencing the gun.

This Needler Sentinel enemy has little to do with the Needler Sentinel enemy included in Halo 2, which was the result of an oversight by Bungie staff.[12]

Sentinel Grenade Launcher

Similarly to the Sentinel Needler, Halo 2 game files mention a "Sentinel Grenade Launcher" in the text pickup strings. Some unused HUD icons remain in the files for the weapon, though little is known of its intended function or purpose. This icon is also used in the default placeholder pickup strings for the General Purpose Machine Gun weapon.

Sentinel Enforcer Charged Bolt

Little is known of this weapon, save for its name. Some unused HUD icons (shown below) likely correspond with the weapon.

Miscellaneous

A number of weapons were discussed by Max Hoberman and Andy Dudynsky during the Halo 2: Artifacts series; these weapons were only listed briefly, and thus there are few details on them.

EMP mine

The "non-lethal EMP mine" is a weapon described in the Halo 2 design documentation. It was presumably to act as a Mine, capable of causing an Electromagnetic pulse without physically damaging its surroundings.[3]

Gravity rifle

The "gravity rifle" is a weapon referenced in Halo 2 design documentation. Little is known of its function or affiliation.[3] Presumably, it was to be based on a weapon of the same name cut from the original Combat Evolved.

Explosive charges and mines

Help.png This section needs expansion. You can help Halopedia by expanding it.

Satchel charges are mentioned in Halo 2 design documentation. Little is known of their intended function.[3] They were later included in an art piece done by Lorraine McLees for the gallery section of the Halo Graphic Novel (featured below), featuring John-117 surrounded by a menagerie of weapons from Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2.

Satchel charges are referenced in the final game's level Outskirts, during a section in which Sergeant Johnson orders a Marine to "get a satchel on the gate!" However, before this can be done, two Hunters instead break through the gate.

Shredder

The "shredder" is a weapon referenced in Halo 2 design documentation. Little is known of its function or affiliation.[3]

Sniper rod

The "sniper rod" is a weapon referenced in Halo 2 design documentation. Little is known of its function or affiliation.[3]

Sources

  1. ^ a b Twitter, The Vengeful 'Vadam (@vengeful_vadam): "In the Halo 2 Beta, there were two cut weapons: -The Flamethrower, which would be repurposed to become the Halo 3 Flamethrower -The Disintegrator, a Covenant counterpart to the Flamethrower." (Retrieved on Sep 8, 2021) [archive]
  2. ^ YouTube - Bungie, Cutting Room Floor Weapons Vehicles and Characters: Official Bungie upload of the BTS video from the Halo 2 Collector's Edition (Retrieved on Dec 17, 2020)
  3. ^ a b c d e f g h Halo 2: Artifacts, Episode 4 - The Cutting Room Floor: 10:53
  4. ^ a b c YouTube - Lord Zedd, Halo: MCC - Flying The Falcon in Halo 2 And More!
  5. ^ a b c d e Halo Waypoint, Digsite Discoveries (Retrieved on Jul 17, 2023) [archive]
  6. ^ a b c The Art of Halo, page 109
  7. ^ The Art of Halo, page 115
  8. ^ YouTube - Pearled Spaghetti, Cut Flame Hunter Variation Found Halo 2
  9. ^ Halo Waypoint, Digsite Deep-Dive (Retrieved on Jun 21, 2024) [archive]
  10. ^ halo.bungie.org, Re: Sentinels with needlers?: "Hmmm. Not quite. That appears to be a mod video. The needler sentinel that was cut from the game dropped a sentinel arm weapon (identical in appearance to the beam weapon) that shot small red needles. It even had its own unique sentinelly, needly crosshair and pickup image." - David Candland (Retrieved on Oct 25, 2021) [archive]
  11. ^ halo.bungie.org, Re: Sentinels with needlers?: "We used to have sentinels that dropped needler weapons but ended up cutting them. If you found one we missed, I would be very interested if you could verify it." - David Candland (Retrieved on Oct 25, 2021) [archive]
  12. ^ halo.bungie.org, Re: Sentinels with needlers?: "There was a time when we had a sentinel red needler weapon, but it looks like it did, in fact, get completely cut after all and that this little dude is some aberration of a different variety that our test team missed." - David Candland (Retrieved on Oct 25, 2021) [archive]