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I recently edited the page to include information on the Elites "roaring" animation in Halo 2 and 3, and I would like to add an image of such (from Halo 3) to the page.... but I am a noob in such matters and figured it might be better for somebody else to do so. Would anybody be willing to do this (I have the image on my computer already)?
I recently edited the page to include information on the Elites "roaring" animation in Halo 2 and 3, and I would like to add an image of such (from Halo 3) to the page.... but I am a noob in such matters and figured it might be better for somebody else to do so. Would anybody be willing to do this (I have the image on my computer already)?


:I don't have the time ''right'' now, but tomorrow I can guide you through the process. In the meantime, head to [[Help:Images]] for help on uploading images and adding them to articles, and use [[Special:Upload]] for the actual uploading stuff. When uploading an image, the description can and should use wiki-formatting ([[Help:Links|links]], etc.) to describe what's in the page. If you could head to [[User:DavidJCobb|my profile]] and post a link to this talk page (<code><nowiki>[[Talk:Sangheili#Image]]</nowiki></code>) as a comment, that'd be helpful as a reminder. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 02:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
:I don't have the time ''right'' now, but tomorrow I can guide you through the process. In the meantime, head to [[Help:Images]] for help on uploading images and adding them to articles, and use [[Special:Upload]] for the actual uploading stuff. When uploading an image, the description can and should use wiki-formatting ([[Help:Links|links]], etc.) to describe what's in the page. If you could head to [[User:DavidJCobb|my profile]] and post a link to this talk page (<code><nowiki>[[Talk:Sangheili#Image]]</nowiki></code>) as a comment, that'd be helpful as a reminder. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 02:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)


Here is the image in question: [[File:Eliteroar.jpg|thumb|right|An Elite roars in Halo 3]]
Here is the image in question: An Elite roars in Halo 3.
Is there something wrong with it, should I find a different one? (I have several). It got deleted as soon as I put it on the page. - [[User talk:Metalingus627|Metalingus627]]
Is there something wrong with it, should I find a different one? (I have several). It got deleted as soon as I put it on the page. - [[User talk:Metalingus627|Metalingus627]]


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:Yeah, well the measurements in most official canon sources are measured using the English system, and in any case, both measurement systems are often shown in articles. Stop re-adding them - either add it alongside what's already there or leave it completely alone altogether. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 17:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, well the measurements in most official canon sources are measured using the English system, and in any case, both measurement systems are often shown in articles. Stop re-adding them - either add it alongside what's already there or leave it completely alone altogether. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 17:02, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
:Also, if they haven't been mentioned in the ''Halo Universe'', they don't get an article and are not to be added into an article. You'd better read this for reference. - [[File:Commander Silver Leaf.PNG|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup>([[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]])</sup> 17:04, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
:Also, if they haven't been mentioned in the ''Halo Universe'', they don't get an article and are not to be added into an article. You'd better read this for reference. - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup>([[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:black; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]])</sup> 17:04, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
::As per Smoke. Also, <code>|weight=</code> parameter doesn't exist, so please stop adding it to the template.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 17:12, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
::As per Smoke. Also, <code>|weight=</code> parameter doesn't exist, so please stop adding it to the template.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 17:12, November 3, 2009 (UTC)


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Umm... crazy thought. Can't we just post measurements in '''both''' metric and imperial? Of course we can. That way everybody's happy.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 02:31, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
Umm... crazy thought. Can't we just post measurements in '''both''' metric and imperial? Of course we can. That way everybody's happy.--[[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 02:31, November 4, 2009 (UTC)


:From reading the posts, I think (and may be wrong) that the issues are:
:From reading the posts, I think (and may be wrong) that the issues are:
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:*Baryon removing (some of?) the English measurements
:*Baryon removing (some of?) the English measurements
:*Baryon insulting people in a rather immature manner.
:*Baryon insulting people in a rather immature manner.
:The problem is that switching the order isn't really allowed, I don't think -- whatever order was used when the article was created, I think, stays. There's also a rule against editing a page ''exclusively'' to change the dialect between American and British English, though I don't quite remember where I read that. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 03:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
:The problem is that switching the order isn't really allowed, I don't think -- whatever order was used when the article was created, I think, stays. There's also a rule against editing a page ''exclusively'' to change the dialect between American and British English, though I don't quite remember where I read that. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 03:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)


:If you noticed, Rusty, I said he could do both. That was before SHTF. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 20:19, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
:If you noticed, Rusty, I said he could do both. That was before SHTF. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 20:19, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
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Then what about the council elites they are somewhat protectors right? and you fight only 1 of them in the level Gravemind(Halo 2)
Then what about the council elites they are somewhat protectors right? and you fight only 1 of them in the level Gravemind(Halo 2)


I thought Honor Guard Councilors were the highest ranking guardians of a Prophet. They really were, weren't they? [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo</b></span>]] [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Youngrubby|<span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>] File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 18:36, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
I thought Honor Guard Councilors were the highest ranking guardians of a Prophet. They really were, weren't they? [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo</b></span>]] [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Youngrubby|<span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 18:36, August 24, 2010 (UTC)


== HALO WARS ELITES  ==
== HALO WARS ELITES  ==
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:Problem is that the current ones might not be the finalised version. The ones from the Bestiarum would do just fine for now.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 04:34, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
:Problem is that the current ones might not be the finalised version. The ones from the Bestiarum would do just fine for now.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 04:34, January 27, 2010 (UTC)


::Not to mention there's the problem that some of the ranks haven't appeared since Halo 2 (i.e. Ultras)--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 05:03, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
::Not to mention there's the problem that some of the ranks haven't appeared since Halo 2 (i.e. Ultras)--[[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 05:03, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
:                      Yeah, we may keep the rank pics that dont show in any other Halo game, and we may keep older ones for to show what they look like back then.[[User talk:SalemElliot|SalemElliot]] 07:20, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
:                      Yeah, we may keep the rank pics that dont show in any other Halo game, and we may keep older ones for to show what they look like back then.[[User talk:SalemElliot|SalemElliot]] 07:20, January 30, 2010 (UTC)


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How come the new image of the Halo: Reach elite shows him with a plasma pistol, because I doubt they would ever use it in campaign, does this mean they will be again available in multiplayer ([[Special:Contributions/190.12.153.187|190.12.153.187]] 16:38, January 29, 2010 (UTC))
How come the new image of the Halo: Reach elite shows him with a plasma pistol, because I doubt they would ever use it in campaign, does this mean they will be again available in multiplayer ([[Special:Contributions/190.12.153.187|190.12.153.187]] 16:38, January 29, 2010 (UTC))
:Probably just a coincidence with the image. Sangheili are capable of wielding a Plasma Pistol, though they never do so in capaign normally. Perhaps they will be available in multiplayer, though I'm not positively sure. - [[File:Major.png|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 16:41, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
:Probably just a coincidence with the image. Sangheili are capable of wielding a Plasma Pistol, though they never do so in capaign normally. Perhaps they will be available in multiplayer, though I'm not positively sure. - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 16:41, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
::In the first Level of Halo 2 you can engage a Sangheili who is wielding two Plasma Pistols. ND {{Unsigned|79.240.129.206}}
::In the first Level of Halo 2 you can engage a Sangheili who is wielding two Plasma Pistols. ND {{Unsigned|79.240.129.206}}
:::What are you talking about? I've never seen an Elite with pp in any game. [[User talk:Guardians-117|Guardians-117]] 15:47, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::What are you talking about? I've never seen an Elite with pp in any game. [[User talk:Guardians-117|Guardians-117]] 15:47, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
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I know that is I fought by someones side for our very survival, I wouldn't become their enemy again, and the Sangheili respect humans, so why go to war with them again? Aye, they probably went back to ignoring eachother, but that wouldn't have been very beneficial for either side would it? [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|~Enlightment~ ~Fighting Vandalism and Watching Unregistereds~]] 22:28, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
I know that is I fought by someones side for our very survival, I wouldn't become their enemy again, and the Sangheili respect humans, so why go to war with them again? Aye, they probably went back to ignoring eachother, but that wouldn't have been very beneficial for either side would it? [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|~Enlightment~ ~Fighting Vandalism and Watching Unregistereds~]] 22:28, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
:OH LOOK! A NERD! --[[User:Tyrone111|<span style="color:#CF1020">Tyrone</span>]] [[File:Tyrone111Xbox Avatar.png|25px]] [[User Talk:Tyrone111|<span style="color:#801818"><sup>The mastermind would like to speak!</sup></span>]] 23:30, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
:OH LOOK! A NERD! --[[User:Tyrone111|<span style="color:#CF1020">Tyrone</span>]] [[User Talk:Tyrone111|<span style="color:#801818"><sup>The mastermind would like to speak!</sup></span>]] 23:30, February 22, 2010 (UTC)
::thats not true the venus flytrap turned on the chief and arb after helping them kill truth {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 07:21, February 23, 2010 (UTC)
::thats not true the venus flytrap turned on the chief and arb after helping them kill truth {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 07:21, February 23, 2010 (UTC)


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:Seems it's pronounced just the same as I always have. "Sang-Hee-Lee". [[User talk:Hitodama|Hitodama]] 08:23, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
:Seems it's pronounced just the same as I always have. "Sang-Hee-Lee". [[User talk:Hitodama|Hitodama]] 08:23, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


::I personally pronounce it "Sang-Heel-I", but I would suspect that's not correct, given other sources. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 23:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
::I personally pronounce it "Sang-Heel-I", but I would suspect that's not correct, given other sources. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 23:30, May 2, 2010 (UTC)


:::<code>"Sung-Hay-Lee"</code>, if pronounced, sounds better in my opinion.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 23:33, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
:::<code>"Sung-Hay-Lee"</code>, if pronounced, sounds better in my opinion.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">Σάπτανκ</font>]])</sup></font> 23:33, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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In Halo Legends, in the episode were the Arbider goes on a suicidal rampage killing hundreds of Covenant, he fights a high ranking elite and is killed. But thats not whats important. Whats important is that the high ranking elite had a huge metal sword instead of the standard-issue energy sword. It was shaped like an eneragy sword though. Does this mean that the Elites came up with the original design for the energy sword? --Bustie24 02:17, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
In Halo Legends, in the episode were the Arbider goes on a suicidal rampage killing hundreds of Covenant, he fights a high ranking elite and is killed. But thats not whats important. Whats important is that the high ranking elite had a huge metal sword instead of the standard-issue energy sword. It was shaped like an eneragy sword though. Does this mean that the Elites came up with the original design for the energy sword? --Bustie24 02:17, May 11, 2010 (UTC)


:Until we have a source we can't say anything.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 02:22, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
:Until we have a source we can't say anything.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 02:22, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
:I believe thier's a source for that in the Evolutions story "the return" [[User talk:Jabberwock xeno|Jabberwock xeno]] 19:48, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
:I believe thier's a source for that in the Evolutions story "the return" [[User talk:Jabberwock xeno|Jabberwock xeno]] 19:48, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
::That would be the [[Curveblade]].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:53, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
::That would be the [[Curveblade]].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:53, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
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ok, on the template, the ranks don't appear to be organized in any paticular order. Shouldn't they be in order from lowest to highest? [[User talk:Iceman117|Iceman117]] 18:07, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
ok, on the template, the ranks don't appear to be organized in any paticular order. Shouldn't they be in order from lowest to highest? [[User talk:Iceman117|Iceman117]] 18:07, June 30, 2010 (UTC)


:No, it goes from highest to lowest. The template is fine and is in correct order. --[[File:Invincibilityhud.svg|20px]] [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 04:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
:No, it goes from highest to lowest. The template is fine and is in correct order. -- [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 04:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


::Have you looked at it? The ranks are not in order from lowest to highest. The rank on the top is Councilor, and the one on the bottom is Arbiter. I am 99.9% sure that Arbiter is one rank above Councilor, so how could they be the first and last ranks? Plus, if you're saying the template is in the right order, then you're saying Minor outranks Arbiter, Honor Guardsman, Ranger, etc. Last time I checked, Minor was the lowest rank. So it should be last, not in the middle.
::Have you looked at it? The ranks are not in order from lowest to highest. The rank on the top is Councilor, and the one on the bottom is Arbiter. I am 99.9% sure that Arbiter is one rank above Councilor, so how could they be the first and last ranks? Plus, if you're saying the template is in the right order, then you're saying Minor outranks Arbiter, Honor Guardsman, Ranger, etc. Last time I checked, Minor was the lowest rank. So it should be last, not in the middle.
::P.S. I am not talking about the rank template. I am talking about the template at the top right of the page. [[User talk:Iceman117|Iceman117]] 17:44, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
::P.S. I am not talking about the rank template. I am talking about the template at the top right of the page. [[User talk:Iceman117|Iceman117]] 17:44, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


:::Ah, my mistake. I was looking at a different template. Sorry about that. :P --[[File:Invincibilityhud.svg|20px]] [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 17:52, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, my mistake. I was looking at a different template. Sorry about that. :P -- [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 17:52, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


:::I fixed the template to its correct order. Arbiter is not a rank, it's a title. Once an Elite is shamed, he is stripped of his current rank and is forced to hold the new title, not a rank. It is true that he becomes in control of nearly the entire Covenant, but it is still not considered as a rank in the Covenant. --[[File:Invincibilityhud.svg|20px]] [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 18:08, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::I fixed the template to its correct order. Arbiter is not a rank, it's a title. Once an Elite is shamed, he is stripped of his current rank and is forced to hold the new title, not a rank. It is true that he becomes in control of nearly the entire Covenant, but it is still not considered as a rank in the Covenant. -- [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 18:08, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


A few weeks ago they were lowest to highest in their respective sections, but now they're all muddled up. [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 17:00, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
A few weeks ago they were lowest to highest in their respective sections, but now they're all muddled up. [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 17:00, July 3, 2010 (UTC)


:Wrong. The template was like this for years. The only changes were the files and fixes to the descriptions. --[[File:Invincibilityhud.svg|20px]] [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 04:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
:Wrong. The template was like this for years. The only changes were the files and fixes to the descriptions. -- [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 04:33, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
:I've added the general and field marshall ranks, can someone clean it and add the links please. I am right about the main table (though I concede the ranks section in the infobox is fine), I was refering to the good old days when SpecOps officer was under the SpecOps section. [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 18:58, July 24, 2010 (UTC) Eh? Any reason why they were deleted? [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 07:51, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
:I've added the general and field marshall ranks, can someone clean it and add the links please. I am right about the main table (though I concede the ranks section in the infobox is fine), I was refering to the good old days when SpecOps officer was under the SpecOps section. [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 18:58, July 24, 2010 (UTC) Eh? Any reason why they were deleted? [[Special:Contributions/82.45.116.95|82.45.116.95]] 07:51, July 25, 2010 (UTC)


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::Lots of games do this. For example, Smash Bros. Brawl has its opening theme in Latin but its translation takes many liberties with Latin grammar. Regardless, '''BOTH''' translations are kept on SmashWiki, not just the "correct" one, since the "incorrect" one is given in-game and is thus canon(see here:[[http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl_Main_Theme]]). If you don't like it, note it in the trivia section, but don't put it in the main intro, as it will look out of place and disrupt the flow of the article.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 02:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)''
::Lots of games do this. For example, Smash Bros. Brawl has its opening theme in Latin but its translation takes many liberties with Latin grammar. Regardless, '''BOTH''' translations are kept on SmashWiki, not just the "correct" one, since the "incorrect" one is given in-game and is thus canon(see here:[[http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl_Main_Theme]]). If you don't like it, note it in the trivia section, but don't put it in the main intro, as it will look out of place and disrupt the flow of the article.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 02:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)''


Yeah, also there are a lot of translations to that : ''macto''= reward, honor, punish, trouble, slaughter, kill, offer, sacrifice, immolate and ''cognatus''= related by blood, kindred, related, connected, like, similar, a blood relation, blood relative, kinsman. [[File:Extermination.gif|30px]]<font style="background:white">[[User:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:red">Alpha Lima Echo Xray</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:blue">Talk</font>]]</sup></font> 09:35, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, also there are a lot of translations to that : ''macto''= reward, honor, punish, trouble, slaughter, kill, offer, sacrifice, immolate and ''cognatus''= related by blood, kindred, related, connected, like, similar, a blood relation, blood relative, kinsman. <font style="background:white">[[User:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:red">Alpha Lima Echo Xray</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:StalkerGrunt117|<font style="color:blue">Talk</font>]]</sup></font> 09:35, July 7, 2010 (UTC)




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6. They could be with the Councilors, but I doubt that.
6. They could be with the Councilors, but I doubt that.


Hope that helped. --[[File:Invincibilityhud.svg|20px]] [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 04:25, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
Hope that helped. --[[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 04:25, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


Nooooo, Bungie never makes mistake though! Ur deluded! >:O[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 00:48, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
Nooooo, Bungie never makes mistake though! Ur deluded! >:O[[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 00:48, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
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Covenant don't exactly follow 21st century Western ranking traditions. They're not humans. So being promoted form Imperial Admiral to Councilor would most likely not be analogous to a General being promoted to MP.--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 10:38, 20 December 2010 (EST)
Covenant don't exactly follow 21st century Western ranking traditions. They're not humans. So being promoted form Imperial Admiral to Councilor would most likely not be analogous to a General being promoted to MP.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 10:38, 20 December 2010 (EST)


:What I mean is that we have a single line that makes little sense. It tries to put them in an order, then inserts titles as though they were ranks and claims that certain Army ranks are superior to their Naval equivalent. I'm not saying that we use the tree method I used above, but to separate the ranks section. Perhaps we could split ranks after "Ultra" into "Army" and "Navy".-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 11:37, 20 December 2010 (EST)
:What I mean is that we have a single line that makes little sense. It tries to put them in an order, then inserts titles as though they were ranks and claims that certain Army ranks are superior to their Naval equivalent. I'm not saying that we use the tree method I used above, but to separate the ranks section. Perhaps we could split ranks after "Ultra" into "Army" and "Navy".-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 11:37, 20 December 2010 (EST)


::You mean put them side-by-side like the jackal page?--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 11:42, 20 December 2010 (EST)
::You mean put them side-by-side like the jackal page?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 11:42, 20 December 2010 (EST)


:::Sure.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 11:44, 20 December 2010 (EST)
:::Sure.-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 11:44, 20 December 2010 (EST)