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I was not under the impression that Canada was involved in the reorganization. I do think that Mexico and the former US are what is in Halo the URNA. The Encyclopedia could be correct, but if anyone's read its first edition, the information in it was not to be trusted. The revised edition fixed much of it but it was not originally assembled with great care regarding canon. If Bungie's official Covenant-themed halo2.com from when Halo 2 was about to be launched, there were pages that showed the various political entities on Earth. The highlight for North America seemed to only include the USA and Mexico as a single color. Canada wasn't represented, but no data point to translate from the Covenant language was there either, so Canada would exist, but wasn't part of the halo2.com site's interaction. At any rate, it was the USA and Mexico that was highlighted and that is what I assume Bungie intended for the URNA as far back as even Halo 2. The remainder of the continents had most of their political divisions in about the same state, with Europe grouped as a single political entity. I have a pic I screencapped from the Halo 2 site from back when it was active if there was somewhere applicable to upload it here. (as an aside, outside of the Encyclopedia, is there a canonical mention of Canada at all?) [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 07:42, 16 June 2013 (EDT)

:Despite its numerous mistakes, our official position on the Halo Encyclopedia is to assume the information inside is correct unless it is explicitly contradicted by another piece of canon. Can you post the pic you're talking about? The fact that Canada wasn't included wouldn't necessarily mean that it was intentionally excluded. As for the canonical mention, you can see them on its [[Canada|page]]. Canada is where many of the citizens of Cleveland fled when the city was invaded by the Covenant. It's also be explicitly stated as the birthplace of Sergeant [[Lian Devereaux]]. When push comes to shove however, the official Halopedia [[Halopedia:Canon ~~Policy~~|Canon ~~Policy~~]] is that print and film works trump promotional materials. Despite its numerous mistakes, the Encyclopedia, as a written reference work, would trump Halo2.com, which was a promotional site.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|''' Rusty''''''-''''''112''']] [[Halopedia:Administrators|'''''Admin''''']] [[User talk:Rusty-112|'''comm''']] 22:14, 16 June 2013 (EDT)

:Despite its numerous mistakes, our official position on the Halo Encyclopedia is to assume the information inside is correct unless it is explicitly contradicted by another piece of canon. Can you post the pic you're talking about? The fact that Canada wasn't included wouldn't necessarily mean that it was intentionally excluded. As for the canonical mention, you can see them on its [[Canada|page]]. Canada is where many of the citizens of Cleveland fled when the city was invaded by the Covenant. It's also be explicitly stated as the birthplace of Sergeant [[Lian Devereaux]]. When push comes to shove however, the official Halopedia [[Halopedia:Canon policy|Canon policy]] is that print and film works trump promotional materials. Despite its numerous mistakes, the Encyclopedia, as a written reference work, would trump Halo2.com, which was a promotional site.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|''' Rusty''''''-''''''112''']] [[Halopedia:Administrators|'''''Admin''''']] [[User talk:Rusty-112|'''comm''']] 22:14, 16 June 2013 (EDT)

That's unfortunate. Halo2.com was put together by Bungie. The Encyclopedia was, well, not sure who put it together considering all the errors but it wasn't checked out well by 343i. They (and I) had a hand in trying to fix what we could, but it really needed to be redone. That's what the Visual Guide was for...kind of a way to make up for the Encyclopedia. I'm not saying Canada is excluded, just saying that in Bungie's world it was not a part of the URNA. The images I saved from the old halo2.com I placed on my own website here. Note that Alaska doesn't seem to be a part of the URNA either. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 23:28, 16 June 2013 (EDT):

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 I was not under the impression that Canada was involved in the reorganization. I do think that Mexico and the former US are what is in Halo the URNA. The Encyclopedia could be correct, but if anyone's read its first edition, the information in it was not to be trusted. The revised edition fixed much of it but it was not originally assembled with great care regarding canon. If Bungie's official Covenant-themed halo2.com from when Halo 2 was about to be launched, there were pages that showed the various political entities on Earth. The highlight for North America seemed to only include the USA and Mexico as a single color. Canada wasn't represented, but no data point to translate from the Covenant language was there either, so Canada would exist, but wasn't part of the halo2.com site's interaction. At any rate, it was the USA and Mexico that was highlighted and that is what I assume Bungie intended for the URNA as far back as even Halo 2. The remainder of the continents had most of their political divisions in about the same state, with Europe grouped as a single political entity. I have a pic I screencapped from the Halo 2 site from back when it was active if there was somewhere applicable to upload it here. (as an aside, outside of the Encyclopedia, is there a canonical mention of Canada at all?) [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 07:42, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
-:Despite its numerous mistakes, our official position on the Halo Encyclopedia is to assume the information inside is correct unless it is explicitly contradicted by another piece of canon. Can you post the pic you're talking about? The fact that Canada wasn't included wouldn't necessarily mean that it was intentionally excluded. As for the canonical mention, you can see them on its [[Canada|page]]. Canada is where many of the citizens of Cleveland fled when the city was invaded by the Covenant. It's also be explicitly stated as the birthplace of Sergeant [[Lian Devereaux]]. When push comes to shove however, the official Halopedia [[Halopedia:Canon Policy|Canon Policy]] is that print and film works trump promotional materials. Despite its numerous mistakes, the Encyclopedia, as a written reference work, would trump Halo2.com, which was a promotional site.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 22:14, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
+:Despite its numerous mistakes, our official position on the Halo Encyclopedia is to assume the information inside is correct unless it is explicitly contradicted by another piece of canon. Can you post the pic you're talking about? The fact that Canada wasn't included wouldn't necessarily mean that it was intentionally excluded. As for the canonical mention, you can see them on its [[Canada|page]]. Canada is where many of the citizens of Cleveland fled when the city was invaded by the Covenant. It's also be explicitly stated as the birthplace of Sergeant [[Lian Devereaux]]. When push comes to shove however, the official Halopedia [[Halopedia:Canon policy|Canon policy]] is that print and film works trump promotional materials. Despite its numerous mistakes, the Encyclopedia, as a written reference work, would trump Halo2.com, which was a promotional site.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 22:14, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
 That's unfortunate. Halo2.com was put together by Bungie. The Encyclopedia was, well, not sure who put it together considering all the errors but it wasn't checked out well by 343i. They (and I) had a hand in trying to fix what we could, but it really needed to be redone. That's what the Visual Guide was for...kind of a way to make up for the Encyclopedia. I'm not saying Canada is excluded, just saying that in Bungie's world it was not a part of the URNA. The images I saved from the old halo2.com I placed on my own website here. Note that Alaska doesn't seem to be a part of the URNA either. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 23:28, 16 June 2013 (EDT):