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Falcon in Halo 4?[edit]

I don't believe it is a good idea to jump to conclusions so quickly that the Falcon is in Halo 4. Simple concept art does not always portray accurate information. For example, this concept art shows a banshee flying around:

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As you can tell, this is not the same banshee as seen in any of the released game play videos of Halo 4. The same goes for the Falcon. We have not seen any game play of it, therefore, it cannot be confirmed, and should not be on Halo 4's vehicle list until confirmed.

Didn't they release an interactive guide online that has all the vehicles listed? Just checked with it and see if it is there or not. TLLorax 13:46, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Falcons can be seen clearly in the background of this image. --Courage never dies. 13:55, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Perhaps they appear only as cardboard cutouts.-- Forerunner 14:14, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

The Falcon is definitely not in the interactive game guide, But that might simply be because the player doesn't fly them. They might simply be in the background. Weeping Angel 20:24, 4 November 2012 (EST)

I might as well add, the UH-144 Falcon, or any Falcon aircraft thereof, is not at all mentioned anywhere in the Halo 4 Prima Official Game Guide. No mention of it anywhere. Just zip, zero, nada. I think we can all safely assume with complete confidence that the Falcon does not make a return. A pity, honestly, that it didn't return. Not even the AV-14 Hornet either! I liked using both of those aircraft. Banshees are nice, but I like Falcons and Hornets better. Oh well. --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 17:12, 10 November 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

After-credits speech by Didact[edit]

It mentions in this article that the speech that the Didact gives happens following the events of Halo 4, and assumes it is him vowing further action on humanity. After hearing it a couple of times, I am now convinced that this speech actually is from the Didact speaking to the ecumene counsel regarding is punishments to prehistoric humans in the aftermath of the Forerunner-Human war more than 100,000 years ago. Evidence includes him citing victory (against prehistoric humans, because surely what happened at the end of Halo 4 was not a victory). He also uses plural pronouns when referencing Forerunners, and furthermore uses "we" and "our" as if he is talking to other Forerunners, which would be unlikely in 2557. Overall, when taking it from that context, it makes much more sense. The article should be changed to reflect this, and should not make the assumption of saying that the Didact apparently survived based on the fact that he gives this speech. - Extron

It depends. The parts about "I stand before you" does sound like a council or trial, but the part of "We squander eons in the darkness, while they seize our triumphs for their own" sounds like after the Halos' firing. It's hard to be sure. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 03:22, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Though I do admit that line is a bit harder to understand, I would still posit that the majority of the lines make much more sense under the context of the Didact before the events of Halo 4. There are many more lines that don't make sense if he was speaking after the events of Halo 4 than lines that don't make sense if he was speaking to the ecumene council after the Human-Forerunner war. For example, in 2557, who would be accusing him of sin? - Extron

I agree. I was going to make a similar post before seeing yours. I also think that the speech took place some time before the Didact was imprisoned. Since it's not 100% clear though, I think the article should be changed so that it does not make an implication one way or the other.--olanmills 03:51, 26 November 2012 (EST)

it does seem very likely but however if you do an analysis of what the didact says during the cutscene on the level forerunner he not only talks to the chief, he also talks to the librarian, well parts of his little speech is directed to her. So what the didact says during the last scene of halo 4 may be before or after the events, we do not know but we can only speculate, we may find out in later forms of media or will have to wait till halo 5 S225 01:03 27th November 2012 (PST)

The Halo 4 Official Game Guide[edit]

Shouldn't we now have a page for the Halo 4 Prima Official Game Guide, since it has already come out in stores? I got my copy at Wal-Mart for 10x4, a limited collector's edition. I did see some regular Halo 4 Prima Official Game Guides for 25. But I assume you all must already know this. So should we now include a new article for the game guide, too? Seeing as I own a copy, I should be the one to write the article, but I'm honestly not sure I'd do a very good job of it. If anyone else also owns it besides myself could write it, then all the better, I suppose. Still, if no one doesn't, or if they do, but don't want to do it, I suppose I'll have to man up and do it myself. Just be forewarned: as I've said, I might not do a very good job. --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 20:36, 11 November 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

Cairo Station[edit]

I just added Cairo Station to the Locations list, but i dont have a source. It is mentioned by one of the computers aboard the Infinity during Shutdown. Just go and press "x" on them, i think its the farthest one that will first mention something about information and departure, later something about War Games, and finally will mention Cairo Station. BTW, i am not sure if that even counts as an appearace, but deleted in case is not supposed to be there. Siul S-249 20:13, 16 November 2012 (EST)

The Ships that Pop Up during Midnight[edit]

I'm reffering to the ones that were engaging the Didact's ship during the final part of the Broadsword section. Does anyone know what they are? Are they Frigates, Destroyers, Something Else entirely? Missing Mandible 20:49, 25 November 2012 (EST)

I noticed a few ships that looked like something entirely new, but they most likely were Charon-class frigates (H4 version). Also noticed them being destroyed. However it was only at a glance being that I was busy twisting and turning as I was trying to destroy the particle cannons & dodge gunfire from the point defense guns. Sucks that theater mode doesn't work for campaign anymore. Damn you 343i! Now we have to use a VHS, camcorder, or phone cam to record our campagin vids!--Killamint [Comm|Files] 13:30, 29 November 2012 (EST)

I heard they were working on putting theater in Campaign, but until they do, I share your frustration.Col. Snipes 4 50 13:43, 29 November 2012 (EST)

For anyone unaware of what we're talking about, there were at least four types of spacecraft in Midnight. The Broadswords and modified Charons are the most obvious, the more "flat" looking ships (possibly destroyers), and ships just slightly larger than fighters buzzing around the surrounding battles (prowlers/corvettes?). Grizzlei ♥ ツ

The communications tell me at least one Super MAC station was involved. Which one or any others is unclear. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 14:18, 29 November 2012 (EST)

I derped around in Midnight a bit. The ship that flies parallel to the "sphincter" exit is NOT a Charon-class. Wrong bow. The Charon-class still has a forked bow; this had a flat-ish bow and antennae on the ventral portion of the bow. It also lacked the port and starboard sidepanels of the Charon-class. --WTRiker 02:18, 22 December 2012 (EST)

The fourth one below is the class I was talking about. --WTRiker 12:47, 23 December 2012 (EST)

Here's a few pics of the ships that I tried to capture. Unfortunately since we don't have theater mode for campaign I couldn't get anything clear enough to post on the article itself, but I'll be working on getting something soon, just have to either hook up the good old VCR or use my camera's mini tripod. The first one is flat looking and something new, the next two look like Charon-class, while the third looks like a cross between the Infinity and the Halcyon (spelling) class (also they were firing blue-colored bolts at the Didact's ship):

First pic is a new class. Second one is potentially Charon. Looks about right, but the bow doesn't appear to be forked. None in the third are Charon (i.e. a new class). Charon has two engines and is bulkier, those have only one and are sticks. (Stalwart revamp?), fourth is another new class. --WTRiker 12:52, 23 December 2012 (EST)

The 2nd and 3rd pics are the same ships, just taken from a different angle. I believe they lack bulk and two engines because it may have been too much texture size/memory trying to have these multiple 1600+ ft long ships flying around at close range, so they reduced size and bulk to relieve memory. So it looks like a Charon but lacks the mass & engine count. But that's just a quick guess from a gameplay standpoint.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 15:44, 23 December 2012 (EST)

The second and third could possibly be new ships entirely cause once you first go into infinity multiplayer the Charon class ships look like well what they look like, if they were these new ones from the level midnight they would have been rendered that way S225 12:30am 25th December 2012 (GMT)

Replayed Midnight. Spent a good 10-15 flying around looking at the ships. The "antenna" ship appears to have two primary engines and four secondaries, arranged in pairs on either side of the mains, at an angle relative to the plane of the dorsal hull.

The "sticks" have only the one engine. --WTRiker (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Played Midnight again. Looked over the ships again. I also noticed, in the background with the Broadswords, a sort of bell-shaped capital. Charon, maybe? --WTRiker (talk) 02:15, 3 January 2013 (EST)

The bell shaped one may just be this ship considering they have a similar shape/outline. Otherwise its impossible to know as trying to fly towards them causes the BrSw to disappear or explode (kill barrier) regardless if you used the Midnight vacation glitch (tried it!).--Killamint [Comm|Files] 20:19, 5 January 2013 (EST)

Co-op Play in Campaign and in Spartan Ops[edit]

While I can sorta guess who I might play as in Spartan Ops (as one of the many Spartan-IVs), I don't know who I would be playing as during cooperative campaign. I assume I'm either another Master Chief or perhaps maybe, however unlikely, a Spartan-IV. Or is there even a cooperative campaign? I hope so, at least that won't have changed since the other Halo games. So, assuming there is a cooperative campaign, who is the second, third, and fourth players, if any? --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 15:23, 2 December 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

Yeah, there is co-op Campaign. It's the same as Halo: CE and Halo 2, where you play as a 'clone' of the Chief when canonically it's just the Chief fighting.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 15:29, 2 December 2012 (EST)

Cut content[edit]

Hey, not sure what pages this would belong on or if it would have its own page. I haven't seen it on here anywhere (though I may have just missed it) so I figured I'd put it here. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/12/these-halo-4-armour-abilities-didnt-make-the-cut/ Two cut armour abilities from Halo 4.--Soul reaper (talk) 22:55, 30 December 2012 (EST)

Cite error: Invalid[edit]

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Not sure how to fix. 72.12.219.170 10:16, 12 January 2013 (EST)

I'll see what I can do about the cite error on the page.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 11:32, 12 January 2013 (EST)

Split Spartan Ops content from Halo 4[edit]

I think the article would be better presented to readers and editors if we were to move (and add future) Spartan Ops content to the Spartan Ops article. This would improve the Spartan Ops article by providing more relevant information on the characters, locations, events, and what-not to readers. For this article, we could include something like "For a complete list of features of Spartan Ops, please visit Spartan Ops" at the beginning and/or end of the Features section. — subtank 21:31, 4 February 2013 (EST)

I was thinking the same thing for a while now. I don't have a problem with this.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 06:48, 5 February 2013 (EST)

Doritos and Mt. Dew[edit]

Should we add a section about the double exp from the doritos and Mt. Dew? Pokebub (talk) 00:21, 24 April 2013 (EDT)

I figured that it would have been in the article already. I think it would be within the article's scope to have a mention of it in the article. Then we could use the Main Article template for those who want to read it's article.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 11:11, 24 April 2013 (EDT)

Xbox One and Halo 4[edit]

Hey, I was just wondering if Halo 4 would be re-released for Xbox One. Is there any information on that? Because if it is, that would be really cool. --Xamikaze330 [Transmit|Files] 18:47, 21 May 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330

If it really isn't backwards compatible with XBox 360 then they'll have to if they want to continue Spartan Ops. -- SFH (talk) 20:02, 21 May 2013 (EDT)

At present there are no plans for another season of Spartan Ops on the 360. When season 2 does come, it will be in Halo 5, not Halo 4. Because the system won't be backwards compatible, it would essentially require the same effort as porting it to the PC, which would divert manpower away from the next Halo title, or else require them to use a third-party studio to do the job. The two consoles will also use different versions of Xbox LIVE, meaning online play won't cross platforms. This would effectively split the community as early adopters switch to the new console, while others continue to play on the 360. 343 has already shown they don't like doing this, which is why they chose to use Halo: Reach's multiplayer for Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary. So, short answer: No. There has been no information on any Halo 4 re-release, and in my opinion, that's because there won't be one, at least not any time soon.--

Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 21:02, 21 May 2013 (EDT)

Well, maybe there might be some kind of patch then. I have actually played Xbox games on an Xbox 360, games like Halo 2 and stuff. Very possibly. But it seems there neither any confirmations or denials of any kind. But of course this is entirely speculation. But it would certainly be nice if it was re-released. --Xamikaze330 [Transmit|Files] 21:19, 21 May 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330

Has it been confirmed that Spartan Ops won't be coming back on 360? The way I understood it was that Spartan Ops was going to take up the time between the games and the games were going to come out every two years. So if that is accurate there is all the time between now and fall of next year for season two and maybe even a third to come out if second season comes out this fall and season three in the summer then four five and six can fill the gap between Halo 5 and 6. TLLorax (talk) 21:30, 21 May 2013 (EDT)

The Halo Bulletin 3.28.2013: "There is no “Season 2” of Spartan Ops scheduled at the moment, but rest assured the story of Crimson, the Infinity and those characters and events is far from over. - Frank". They really wrapped things up nicely/wrote themselves into a corner by destroying Requiem, and with it nearly all of the in-game environments. They'd need to start from scratch for a new season, setting up a whole new location for the conflict. Any time they spend on that is time not spent on Halo 5, and they've already got a pretty tight deadline on 5. Remember that Bungie had 3 full years between their proper installments (not including ODST, which reused the engine and assets from 3). If we're correct, and the next Halo is scheduled for Q4 2014, that means 343 is being asked to create a whole new game on a whole new console in only 2 years. That's a pretty tall order. That's why I think they pushed out the map packs so quickly. The last Halo 3 map pack was released two years after the game. Reach's Anniversary pack was 14 months after the game. Yet 343 released all 3 of Halo 4's packs in just 5 months. I believe that's because they immediately started on Halo 5. I'm not saying definitively that there will be no Halo 4 on the Xbox One, or that there will be no second season of Spartan Ops for Halo 4. I'm just saying, "Don't hold your breath."--

Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 22:40, 21 May 2013 (EDT)

Halol[edit]

I was wondering wether we should bring up in the "reception" section how quickly everyone turned against Halo 4. I mean, it seems like a no brainer to me, but since it hasn't been adresses by media outlets or anything I wasn't sure if we could do that? Unbelievably bitchin' Lego dropships don't just build themselves. This is craZboy557, signing off. 11:22, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

I don't think that's necessary and it isn't notable enough for a mention. Not everyone "turned against" Halo 4. I myself don't necessarily hate Halo 4 as I still play it (as you can see in my "played games" under my profile) and do like it but I'm not impressed. Its more-so people turning against 343i for not putting in enough effort into Halo 4 as well as taking away features like campaign theater & scoring - which is what got me started with constantly ranting about how bad Halo 4 is.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 12:32, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

Page load needs to improve[edit]

Per above, can someone trim down the page so that it loads faster? I frequent Halopedia on my cellphone but several articles with tons of images such as these take a while to load. Would appreciate if someone can improve the page load. — Ha came 23:40, 18 July 2013 (EDT)

Halo 4 Spartan Rank-Up System[edit]

Hey, I have just reached the rank of SR-50, but for some odd reason, I can't rank up any further, or at least, not in Spartan Ops. I don't know if I can still rank up in War Games, so I have yet to try that in multiplayer. I know that SR-50 is not the final rank a SPARTAN-IV can achieve, because I have seen SR-90s and higher-ranking players in multiplayer. But anyway, I'd really like to know why I can't rank up while playing Spartan Ops. Is there something I should know or download or something that would help me with this? --Xamikaze330 [Transmission|Commencing] 11:52, 17 March 2014 (EDT)Xamikaze330

You have to enlist in one of the 10 Specializations in order to rank up another 10 and continue further from there until all 10 are completed.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 12:21, 17 March 2014 (EDT)

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-==Legendary Planet==
+{{Forum page|Halo 4 discussion}}
-Ok so we see that at the end of Halo 3 that the Forward Unto Dawn (what's left of it) is heading towards a unidentified planet. We have an article about the planet. In the Halo 4 trailer, we see that John is awake and they are now REALLY close to it. The Halo 4 article should list the Unidentified Legendary Planet as the location for the time being. [[User:EchostreamFanJosh|EchostreamFanJosh]]
+{{Archived|multi=Archives<br />[[/Archive 1|1]] • [[/Archive 2|2]] • [[/Archive 3|3]] • [[/Archive 4|4]]}}
-:Nope not ''Yet'' we don't know for sure if it's the legendary planet [[User:Halofan1234|"A Penny saved is a Penny earned"]]  14:31, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+== Falcon in Halo 4? ==
-:For all we know the FuD flew straight past the planet and found its way into a space station for the remnants of the Covenant.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 14:34, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+I don't believe it is a good idea to jump to conclusions so quickly that the Falcon is in Halo 4. Simple concept art does not always portray accurate information. For example, this concept art shows a banshee flying around:
-Ok let's look at it this way. The Foward Unto Dawn is floating towards, what we have labeled it the [[Legendary Planet]] at the end of Halo 3. You're suggesting that by possibly the power of God, that the ship stops floating towards it and heads towards a completely different Forerunner looking planet. [[User:EchostreamFanJosh|EchostreamFanJosh]]
+[http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Halo-4-Concept-Art-2.jpg]
-:I'm making a point - we have no idea how long it's been since Halo 3. I also don't recall seeing a "Forerunner looking planet" - I saw a beam of light coming out of an object that we see nothing else of.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 14:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+As you can tell, this is not the same banshee as seen in any of the released game play videos of Halo 4. The same goes for the Falcon. We have not seen any game play of it, therefore, it cannot be confirmed, and should not be on Halo 4's vehicle list until confirmed.
-:Onyx wasn't made of rock, so no.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 15:33, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+Didn't they release an interactive guide online that has all the vehicles listed? Just checked with it and see if it is there or not. [[User talk:TLLorax|TLLorax]] 13:46, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
-:since we don't have any confirmation that it is so then well leave it as such [[User:Halofan1234|"A Penny saved is a Penny earned"]]  14:43, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+:Falcons can be seen clearly in the background of [[:File:H4-E3-Campaign-10.jpg|this image]]. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 13:55, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
-::Frankie hinted, or pretty much confirmed it on [http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-halo-4/714846 a G4TV interview] (around the 00:45 mark) that it's the Legendary planet. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:06, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+:Perhaps they appear only as cardboard cutouts.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 14:14, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
-So wait, were these guys just orbiting the planet for god-knows how long?  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  14:36, 7 June 2011 (EDT)!
+The Falcon is definitely not in the interactive game guide, But that might simply be because the player doesn't fly them. They might simply be in the background. [[User talk:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] 20:24, 4 November 2012 (EST)
-They couldn't have been gone ''too'' long, since Cortana would be completely rampant (or destroyed in the case of being gone for a very long time). People, sometimes we don't need a slap in the face word from the devs to confirm stuff. Halo 3 had a cliffhanger ending with them floating toward a Forerunner planet. Then in the new trailer, they end up being sucked in to a very familiar planet with a whole new adventure ahead. That's pretty much saying "yeah, this is the same damned planet".--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 15:25, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
+::I might as well add, the UH-144 Falcon, or any Falcon aircraft thereof, is not at all mentioned anywhere in the ''Halo 4'' Prima Official Game Guide. No mention of it anywhere. Just zip, zero, nada. I think we can all safely assume with complete confidence that the Falcon does not make a return. A pity, honestly, that it didn't return. Not even the AV-14 Hornet either! I liked using both of those aircraft. Banshees are nice, but I like Falcons and Hornets better. Oh well. --[[User:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] ([[User talk:Xamikaze330|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|contribs]]) 17:12, 10 November 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
-Not really, Cortana would have probably shut herself down as much as possible (i.e. Human Weakness) to avoid just that.  And about what he said about the unlikeliness that they would find ANOTHER Forerunner planet; who knows how long it's been since we last saw the Chief?  They could have been floating for CENTURIES, so it is not necessarily so improbable that they are at another planet.  Especially considering how large the Forerunner Ecume spread.  Vegerot.
+== After-credits speech by Didact ==
-*But at the other side, we DON'T know how long John and Cortana were underway when we watch the legendary ending...right? {{Unsigned|Bdgroot-117}}
+It mentions in this article that the speech that the Didact gives happens following the events of Halo 4, and assumes it is him vowing further action on humanity.  After hearing it a couple of times, I am now convinced that this speech actually is from the Didact speaking to the ecumene counsel regarding is punishments to prehistoric humans in the aftermath of the Forerunner-Human war more than 100,000 years ago.  Evidence includes him citing victory (against prehistoric humans, because surely what happened at the end of Halo 4 was not a victory).  He also uses plural pronouns when referencing Forerunners, and furthermore uses "we" and "our" as if he is talking to other Forerunners, which would be unlikely in 2557.  Overall, when taking it from that context, it makes much more sense.  The article should be changed to reflect this, and should not make the assumption of saying that the Didact apparently survived based on the fact that he gives this speech. - Extron
-:Yep, we have no idea how long they've been floating when they approach the planet. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:08, 21 June 2011 (EDT)
+:It depends. The parts about "I stand before you" does sound like a council or trial, but the part of "We squander eons in the darkness, while they seize our triumphs for their own" sounds like after the Halos' firing. It's hard to be sure. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 03:22, 11 November 2012 (EST)
-== M6G Personal Defense Weapon System ==
+Though I do admit that line is a bit harder to understand, I would still posit that the majority of the lines make much more sense under the context of the Didact before the events of Halo 4.  There are many more lines that don't make sense if he was speaking after the events of Halo 4 than lines that don't make sense if he was speaking to the ecumene council after the Human-Forerunner war.  For example, in 2557, who would be accusing him of sin? - Extron
+:I agree. I was going to make a similar post before seeing yours. I also think that the speech took place some time before the Didact was imprisoned. Since it's not 100% clear though, I think the article should be changed so that it does not make an implication one way or the other.--[[User talk:Olanmills|olanmills]] 03:51, 26 November 2012 (EST)
-I can confirm it is used in-game because [[Forward Unto Dawn]] wouldn't have updated technology, unless somebody came on, and gave it to [[John-117]] himself. -[[User:Spedster777|Spedster777]], Administrator of the Saints Row wiki. 16:37, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+it does seem very likely but however if you do an analysis of what the didact says during the cutscene on the level forerunner he not only talks to the chief, he also talks to the librarian, well parts of his little speech is directed to her. So what the didact says during the last scene of halo 4 may be before or after the events, we do not know but we can only speculate, we may find out in later forms of media or will have to wait till halo 5 [[User:SPARTAN-225|S225]] 01:03 27th November 2012 (PST)
-:Halo 3 didn't have an M6G that fired explosive rounds either, which is what the pistol in the trailer seems to do. It's way too early to make the conclusion that a specific gun will appear in the game, especially when all we've seen is a pre-rendered trailer. So please stop adding that into the article.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:50, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+==The ''Halo 4'' Official Game Guide==
-Or maybe 343 decided to screw us over and began to lay the nails in Halo's coffin. They're screwing all kinds of things over. -Whiskey Lima
+Shouldn't we now have a page for the ''Halo 4'' Prima Official Game Guide, since it has already come out in stores? I got my copy at Wal-Mart for 10x4, a limited collector's edition. I did see some regular ''Halo 4'' Prima Official Game Guides for 25. But I assume you all must already know this. So should we now include a new article for the game guide, too? Seeing as I own a copy, I should be the one to write the article, but I'm honestly not sure I'd do a very good job of it. If anyone else also owns it besides myself could write it, then all the better, I suppose. Still, if no one doesn't, or if they do, but don't want to do it, I suppose I'll have to man up and do it myself. Just be forewarned: as I've said, I might not do a very good job. --[[User:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] ([[User talk:Xamikaze330|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|contribs]]) 20:36, 11 November 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
-I also added Trivia up there about what 343 did mess up with, but somebody removed them. -[[User:Spedster777|Spedster777]], Administrator of the Saints Row wiki. 16:46, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+== Cairo Station ==
-:Again, we only accept information that is sourced and confirmed, otherwise it is regardled as speculation. The sidearm may very well look like the M6 but that doesn't necessarily mean its the M6G. Edit warring is unacceptable, do not resort to it or the page will be locked down. If you disagree, discuss on the talk page and make a conclusion. - [[File:Major.png|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 16:51, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
-Is it just me or did a rocket come out of that pistol? At first I though MC was just testing it or something, but after watching it about five times, I'm pretty sure he shot a rocket that blew up the wall ahead of him. [[User talk:Andrew996|Andrew996]] 16:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
-:Could be a tracer. Furthermore, what prevents the ''Forward Unto Dawn'' from carrying explosive M6G ammunition? Just because we never saw the pistol fire explosive rounds in ''3'' doesn't mean it can't. It's the same calibre ammo.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 17:16, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
-::It doesn't look like an ordinary pistol to me - more like a miniature grenade launcher. Watching the trailer frame-by-frame, one can see the whole upper part of the weapon flip open when it's reloaded. The "attachment" part seems like it could be the grenade it fires. There's also a small display on the side of the weapon and "rails" where the attachment - or grenade - goes, visible near the end when the Chief stands up. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 19:17, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
-It's also worth remembering that everything in the trailer is still pre-production - for all we know it was just artistic license [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 17:21, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
+I just added Cairo Station to the Locations list, but i dont have a source. It is mentioned by one of the computers aboard the Infinity during Shutdown. Just go and press "x" on them, i think its the farthest one that will first mention something about information and departure, later something about War Games, and finally will mention Cairo Station. BTW, i am not sure if that even counts as an appearace, but deleted in case is not supposed to be there. [[User talk:Siul S-249|Siul S-249]] 20:13, 16 November 2012 (EST)
-:Actually, the game has been in production at various levels for three years now as per Producer Ryan Payton, this trailer was using external CGI. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|June 6th, 2011}}
-For the sake of completeness, we should remember that the M6 Sidearm series does indeed fire high explosive rounds, just not five-inch wide explosive canisters as the unidentified weapon apparently does.  And I agree with Jugus: the weapon in the trailer does not seem to be a traditional pistol; rather it seems to be a cut-down or downsized version of a grenade launcher.  As a side note, I believe it would also be beneficial to treat the "jetpack" as a hitherto unused integrated thruster pack designed for zero-gravity maneuvers in order to preserve equipment continuity.  After all, except for Halo 2, we haven't seen the Mk VI MJOLNIR operate in zero gravity while under adverse conditions; and even in Halo 2, the camera was fairly far away.  I know that there was never any mention of one, but we ''could'' have missed such a thruster pack's exhaust...  ''Possibly''.  For your consideration, --[[User talk:Bruce2401|Bruce2401]] 02:30, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
+== The Ships that Pop Up during Midnight ==
-:Well those two bit that stick out of the back do look like exaust ports, and they've never done anything before, so it could very well be a built-in jet pack, that he hasn't needed to use until now. The grenade launcher looks like it's based off of the M6 series, and there are a lot of variants. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 04:04, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
+I'm reffering to the ones that were engaging the Didact's ship during the final part of the Broadsword section. Does anyone know what they are? Are they Frigates, Destroyers, Something Else entirely? [[User talk:Missing Mandible|Missing Mandible]] 20:49, 25 November 2012 (EST)
+:I noticed a few ships that looked like something entirely new, but they most likely were Charon-class frigates (H4 version). Also noticed them being destroyed. However it was only at a glance being that I was busy twisting and turning as I was trying to destroy the particle cannons & dodge gunfire from the point defense guns. Sucks that theater mode doesn't work for campaign anymore. Damn you 343i! Now we have to use a VHS, camcorder, or phone cam to record our campagin vids!--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:30, 29 November 2012 (EST)
+::I heard they were working on putting theater in Campaign, but until they do, I share your frustration.[[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 13:43, 29 November 2012 (EST)
+:For anyone unaware of what we're talking about, there were at least four types of spacecraft in ''Midnight''. The Broadswords and modified ''Charons'' are the most obvious, the more "flat" looking ships (possibly destroyers), and ships just slightly larger than fighters buzzing around the surrounding battles (prowlers/corvettes?). {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
+The communications tell me at least one Super MAC station was involved. Which one or any others is unclear. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:18, 29 November 2012 (EST)
+:I derped around in Midnight a bit. The ship that flies parallel to the "sphincter" exit is NOT a Charon-class. Wrong bow. The Charon-class still has a forked bow; this had a flat-ish bow and antennae on the ventral portion of the bow. It also lacked the port and starboard sidepanels of the Charon-class. --[[User talk:WTRiker|WTRiker]] 02:18, 22 December 2012 (EST)
+::The fourth one below is the class I was talking about. --[[User talk:WTRiker|WTRiker]] 12:47, 23 December 2012 (EST)
+:Here's a few pics of the ships that I tried to capture. Unfortunately since we don't have theater mode for campaign I couldn't get anything clear enough to post on the article itself, but I'll be working on getting something soon, just have to either hook up the good old VCR or use my camera's mini tripod. The first one is flat looking and something new, the next two look like Charon-class, while the third looks like a cross between the Infinity and the Halcyon (spelling) class (also they were firing blue-colored bolts at the Didact's ship):
+File:Dakota 1.jpg|200px]],File:Dakota 2.jpg|200px]],File:Dakota 3.jpg|200px]],File:Dakota 4.jpg|200px]]
+--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:00, 22 December 2012 (EST)
-:^Agreed on the pistol/launcher Alex.  The two are probably in the same series.  Haha, anyone feel up for an M6-Doorbuster?  I feel I should clarify my view on the thrusters: they would be ''specifically'' designed for zero-gravity, not as a "jump pack" like in Halo: Reach.  They're easier to explain away in that case.  --[[User talk:Bruce2401|Bruce2401]] 07:08, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
+::First pic is a new class. Second one is potentially Charon. Looks about right, but the bow doesn't appear to be forked. None in the third are Charon (i.e. a new class). Charon has two engines and is bulkier, those have only one and are sticks. (Stalwart revamp?), fourth is another new class. --[[User talk:WTRiker|WTRiker]] 12:52, 23 December 2012 (EST)
-It was my understanding that the pack on the back of the MJOLNIR Mark VI Powered Assault armor was the nuclear reactor that powered the assault armor (thus the name ''powered assault armor'').  But could it be possible that the reactor could vent a small amount of its energy, therefor "thrusting" itself like a thruster pack?
+:::The 2nd and 3rd pics are the same ships, just taken from a different angle. I believe they lack bulk and two engines because it may have been too much texture size/memory trying to have these multiple 1600+ ft long ships flying around at close range, so they reduced size and bulk to relieve memory. So it looks like a Charon but lacks the mass & engine count. But that's just a quick guess from a gameplay standpoint.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 15:44, 23 December 2012 (EST)
-And about that pistol.  Guys, do you know how much 500 years is?  I'm sure that the UNSC have developed ammunition that is capable of making an explosion that of a modern day grenade (or bigger, considering that that explosion happened in space)[[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:32, 7 June 2011 (EDT)!
+The second and third could possibly be new ships entirely cause once you first go into infinity multiplayer the Charon class ships look like well what they look like, if they were these new ones from the level midnight they would have been rendered that way [[User:SPARTAN-225|S225]] 12:30am 25th December 2012 (GMT)
-: *Sith'ari drools over possibility of .50 calibre pistol rounds with the power of 40mm grenades*. Does this suggest that the Semi-Armour-Piercing, High-Explosive rounds fired by the M6 series have a [[wikipedia:variable yield|variable yield]]?--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 13:36, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
+:::Replayed Midnight. Spent a good 10-15 flying around looking at the ships. The "antenna" ship appears to have two primary engines and four secondaries, arranged in pairs on either side of the mains, at an angle relative to the plane of the dorsal hull.
-:Wow, didn't think of that.  *imagines a little computer screen that John punches numbers into to make a big explosion*  Hell yeah!  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  14:23, 7 June 2011 (EDT)!!
+The "sticks" have only the one engine. --[[User:WTRiker|WTRiker]] ([[User talk:WTRiker|talk]]) 22:33, 27 December 2012 (EST)
+:::Played Midnight again. Looked over the ships again. I also noticed, in the background with the Broadswords, a sort of bell-shaped capital. Charon, maybe? --[[User:WTRiker|WTRiker]] ([[User talk:WTRiker|talk]]) 02:15, 3 January 2013 (EST)
-:^ I was watching the trailer on a 48-inch screen at 1080p, the attatchment that John-117 places on the weapon at the end is actually another round, there was no traditional bullet.  That thing looks to be at least two-by-five inches; I think we should treat it as some form of grenade and not a HE bullet.  Vergerot: good point.  If the suit vented some of it's energy by heating an onboard reservoir, NOT the oxygen supply, and then blew it out of those two ports then that would make a very effective T-pack.  But the two vents that extend on on the dorsal side do need to be explained, so I would say the suit ''has'' an integrated thruster and does not merely vent gas to ''behave'' as though it does. --[[User talk:Bruce2401|Bruce2401]] 18:49, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
+::::The bell shaped one may just be this ship considering they have a similar shape/outline. Otherwise its impossible to know as trying to fly towards them causes the BrSw to disappear or explode (kill barrier) regardless if you used the [[Midnight vacation]] glitch (tried it!).--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:19, 5 January 2013 (EST)
-Or it could be both of them combined.  Like the heating in your car, it vents the heat to it, and it heats the reseviour that thrusts the person.  So it is not like it was something that John improvided on the spot (but you do have to give John some credit, I mean, he just woke up and then he did all that maneuvering and crap on the spot (and Cortana too, as she speeds up his reactions). Vegerot (using the iPad, and I can't figure out how to. make thet signature symbol)
+==Co-op Play in Campaign and in Spartan Ops==
-If one were to read Ghosts of Onyx one would realize that all apartan armour has intergrated thruster packs.[[User talk:Sierra259|Sierra259]] 11:02, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
+While I can sorta guess who I might play as in Spartan Ops (as one of the many Spartan-IVs), I don't know who I would be playing as during cooperative campaign. I assume I'm either another Master Chief or perhaps maybe, however unlikely, a Spartan-IV. Or is there even a cooperative campaign? I hope so, at least that won't have changed since the other ''Halo'' games. So, assuming there is a cooperative campaign, who is the second, third, and fourth players, if any? --[[User:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] ([[User talk:Xamikaze330|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|contribs]]) 15:23, 2 December 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
+:Yeah, there is co-op Campaign. It's the same as ''Halo: CE'' and ''Halo 2'', where you play as a 'clone' of the Chief when canonically it's just the Chief fighting.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:29, 2 December 2012 (EST)
-:^ Are you speaking of how Ackerson got hold of Liutenant Kurt Ambrose by means of sabotage?  Those were add-on packs, not integrated.  If you're referring to something else please reply with a chapter number or something; that'll provide some much needed context.  Thanks!--[[User talk:Bruce2401|Bruce2401]] 01:14, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
+== Cut content ==
-: Did not no that, thanks for telling me. Are the the ones from reach.[[User talk:Sierra259|Sierra259]] 21:35, 3 September 2011 (EDT)
+Hey, not sure what pages this would belong on or if it would have its own page. I haven't seen it on here anywhere (though I may have just missed it) so I figured I'd put it here. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2012/12/these-halo-4-armour-abilities-didnt-make-the-cut/ Two cut armour abilities from Halo 4.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 22:55, 30 December 2012 (EST)
-== New info ==
-It's found here: http://halo.xbox.com/forums/general/f/14/t/8274.aspx
+== Cite error: Invalid ==
+<nowiki><ref></nowiki> tag; no text was provided for refs named Panel_3
-I think it's safe to say it isn't canon until otherwise confirmed? But I do think it gives some nice stuff to talk about either way. Personally I like that plot very much, finally fighting other humans and possibly a new Alien race neither Covenant, Human, Flood or Forerunner :D. The Needle Launcher isn't something new, it has been speculated and cut since halo 3. --[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 05:39, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
+Not sure how to fix. [[Special:Contributions/72.12.219.170|72.12.219.170]] 10:16, 12 January 2013 (EST)
+:I'll see what I can do about the cite error on the page.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:32, 12 January 2013 (EST)
-:It's made up. [http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1078202 Confirmed by Frankie]. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:54, 10 June 2011 (EDT)
+== Split Spartan Ops content from Halo 4 ==
-== Chief's Armour ==
+I think the article would be better presented to readers and editors if we were to move (and add future) Spartan Ops content to the [[Spartan Ops]] article. This would improve the Spartan Ops article by providing more relevant information on the characters, locations, events, and what-not to readers. For this article, we could include something like "For a complete list of features of Spartan Ops, please visit [[Spartan Ops]]" at the beginning and/or end of the Features section. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  21:31, 4 February 2013 (EST)
-I'm just asking if it is worth adding a note about chief's armor to certain articles. I understand that artistic liberties have probably been undertaken the trailer depicts an almost new or upgraded suit of armour (changed helmet, chest, gauntlets, legs, jetpack). As some artiles have speculative sections, I'm sure an educated, carefully constructed section in regards to this is necessary pending further information. <font color="black">Something<b>Different</b></font> 19:52, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
+:I was thinking the same thing for a while now. I don't have a problem with this.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 06:48, 5 February 2013 (EST)
-== The rest of the gang. ==
+== Doritos and Mt. Dew ==
-I strongly remember that Kerin Travis was going to be continuing the Master Chief's AND the other SPARTANs' story.  So from the trailer one could arguably assume that that series was scrapped.  But the question is if the basic plot will be transferred.  I honestly hope not, because if these SPARTANs take off their armor every other second I'm gonna have a bf (you got to see White Chicks, funny movie!).  Vegerot.
-:The novel series is set after the end of the war, and doesn't centre around the GoO gang or John.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 00:12, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
+Should we add a section about the double exp from the doritos and Mt. Dew? [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 00:21, 24 April 2013 (EDT)
-::If it's still happening at all, that is.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 09:25, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
+:I figured that it would have been in the article already. I think it would be within the article's scope to have a mention of it in the article. Then we could use the Main Article template for those who want to read it's [[Unlock & Load Double XP|article]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:11, 24 April 2013 (EDT)
-:::Just because Eric Nylund can write a bestseller in ''seven'' weeks doesn't mean that everyone else can. It took quite a while for Halo: Cryptum to come out after its announcement and the less said about Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the better.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 10:10, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
-== New info from Frank O'Connor ==
+==Xbox One and ''Halo 4''==
-[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FyEB5FhA8Q&feature=related This video is an interview with Frank], he gives some info about Halo 4 towards the end and offers a few brief tidbits concerning Master Chief's new look and mentions that the game is not immediately after Halo 3. I'm not sure how to go about adding this info to the article but I thought I'd let everyone know--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 09:45, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
+Hey, I was just wondering if ''Halo 4'' would be re-released for Xbox One. Is there any information on that? Because if it is, that would be really cool. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 18:47, 21 May 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
+:If it really isn't backwards compatible with XBox 360 then they'll have to if they want to continue Spartan Ops. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 20:02, 21 May 2013 (EDT)
+::At present there are no plans for another season of Spartan Ops on the 360. When season 2 does come, it will be in ''Halo 5'', not ''Halo 4''. Because the system won't be backwards compatible, it would essentially require the same effort as porting it to the PC, which would divert manpower away from the next ''Halo'' title, or else require them to use a third-party studio to do the job. The two consoles will also use different versions of Xbox LIVE, meaning online play won't cross platforms. This would effectively split the community as early adopters switch to the new console, while others continue to play on the 360. 343 has already shown they don't like doing this, which is why they chose to use ''Halo: Reach'''s multiplayer for ''Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary''. So, short answer: No. There has been no information on any ''Halo 4'' re-release, and in my opinion, that's because there won't be one, at least not any time soon.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 21:02, 21 May 2013 (EDT)
+:::Well, maybe there might be some kind of patch then. I have actually played Xbox games on an Xbox 360, games like ''Halo 2'' and stuff. Very possibly. But it seems there neither any confirmations or denials of any kind. But of course this is entirely speculation. But it would certainly be nice if it was re-released. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 21:19, 21 May 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
+Has it been confirmed that Spartan Ops won't be coming back on 360? The way I understood it was that Spartan Ops was going to take up the time between the games and the games were going to come out every two years. So if that is accurate there is all the time between now and fall of next year for season two and maybe even a third to come out if second season comes out this fall and season three in the summer then four five and six can fill the gap between Halo 5 and 6. [[User:TLLorax|TLLorax]] ([[User talk:TLLorax|talk]]) 21:30, 21 May 2013 (EDT)
+:[http://blogs.halowaypoint.com/Headlines/post/2013/03/28/The-Halo-Bulletin-32813.aspx The Halo Bulletin 3.28.2013]: ''"There is no “Season 2” of Spartan Ops scheduled at the moment, but rest assured the story of Crimson, the Infinity and those characters and events is far from over. - Frank"''. They really wrapped things up nicely/wrote themselves into a corner by destroying Requiem, and with it nearly all of the in-game environments. They'd need to start from scratch for a new season, setting up a whole new location for the conflict. Any time they spend on that is time not spent on ''Halo 5'', and they've already got a pretty tight deadline on ''5''. Remember that Bungie had 3 full years between their proper installments (not including ''ODST'', which reused the engine and assets from ''3''). If we're correct, and the next ''Halo'' is scheduled for Q4 2014, that means 343 is being asked to create a whole new game on a whole new console in only 2 years. That's a pretty tall order. That's why I think they pushed out the map packs so quickly. The last ''Halo 3'' map pack was released two years after the game. ''Reach'''s Anniversary pack was 14 months after the game. Yet 343 released all 3 of ''Halo 4''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s packs in just 5 months. I believe that's because they immediately started on ''Halo 5''. I'm not saying definitively that there will be no ''Halo 4'' on the Xbox One, or that there will be no second season of Spartan Ops for ''Halo 4''. I'm just saying, "Don't hold your breath."--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 22:40, 21 May 2013 (EDT)
-:Mark VII maybe? It would have to be Mark VI in the trailer, but some point later in the game he could get Mark VII, as evidenced by the very different-looking armor on the cover picture. Honestly, it could be anything at this point. We really don't know much more than we did in 2007.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 15:41, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
+==Halol==
-::Though Halseys journal mentions a possible Mark VII we don't have any official source confirming the existence of one. And immediately after Halo 3 would mean it's like a day later. By saying "not immediately after Halo 3" basically means some time has passed since then and we all know John was in cryo for at least four years as seen in Halo Legends. <span style="color:green;">[[User:Halofan1234|1234fansofHalo]]</span> 15:51, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
+I was wondering wether we should bring up in the "reception" section how quickly everyone turned against Halo 4. I mean, it seems like a no brainer to me, but since it hasn't been adresses by media outlets or anything I wasn't sure if we could do that? Unbelievably bitchin' Lego dropships don't just build themselves. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 11:22, 30 May 2013 (EDT)
+:I don't think that's necessary and it isn't notable enough for a mention. Not everyone "turned against" Halo 4. I myself don't necessarily hate Halo 4 as I still play it (as you can see in my "played games" under my profile) and do like it but I'm not impressed. Its more-so people turning against 343i for not putting in enough effort into Halo 4 as well as taking away features like campaign theater & scoring - which is what got me started with constantly ranting about how bad Halo 4 is.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:32, 30 May 2013 (EDT)
-:::I'm leaning toward the Mark VII idea, because of the new look, because it's a new trilogy, because they bothered to put it in the journal, and because it's 7. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:19, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
+== Page load needs to improve ==
+Per above, can someone trim down the page so that it loads faster? I frequent Halopedia on my cellphone but several articles with tons of images such as these take a while to load. Would appreciate if someone can improve the page load. — [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 23:40, 18 July 2013 (EDT)
-Hi guys. I'm new at this so forgive me if it seems noobish.
+==Halo 4 Spartan Rank-Up System==
-I personally don't think it is MJOLNIR mk.7 ARMOR for the simple reason there isn't any proof that it's made already.
-My theory is he (John) uses mk.6 armor until, untill he will get some kind of Forerunner Combat skin.
-I base those findings on a couple of reasons:
-#  There is concept art for the forerunner combat skin.
-#  John expresses how much he would like to wear above mentioned armor in either HALO COMBAT EVOLVED or HALO THE FLOOD.
-{{Unsigned| Noble Gr33n}}
-== Mendicant Bias==
+Hey, I have just reached the rank of SR-50, but for some odd reason, I can't rank up any further, or at least, not in ''Spartan Ops''. I don't know if I can still rank up in War Games, so I have yet to try that in multiplayer. I know that SR-50 is not the final rank a SPARTAN-IV can achieve, because I have seen SR-90s and higher-ranking players in multiplayer. But anyway, I'd really like to know why I can't rank up while playing ''Spartan Ops''. Is there something I should know or download or something that would help me with this? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 11:52, 17 March 2014 (EDT)Xamikaze330
-Can the new enemy be the rampant forerunner AI [[Medicant_Bias|Mendicant Bias]]? --[[User:Rodri8032|<span style="color:red;">8</span><span style="color:darkorange;">0</span><span style="color:orange;">3</span><span style="color:gold;">2</span>]] 15:52, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
+:You have to enlist in one of the 10 [[Specializations]] in order to rank up another 10 and continue further from there until all 10 are completed.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:21, 17 March 2014 (EDT)
-:It could be anything. We have no idea at all at this point. Everything we know if on the page already. --<span style="color:mediumpurple;">[[User:DKong|DKong]] <sup>[[User_talk:DKong|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/DKong|Cont]]</sup></span> 15:56, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
-::Well, the last Halo 3 terminal shows that Mendicant Bias is no longer on the Flood's side. It's unlikely that he would be your enemy because then the entire game would be about fighting Forerunner sentinels, and they wouldn't do that. They know we need blood...--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 16:04, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
-== 343 Team==
-I heard that 343 hired people that worked on Killzone, Star Wars Battlefront and Metroid Prime, as well as the composer for Castlevania. Is this true?
-:I'm pretty sure that's complete BS. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 09:46, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
-::Actually two people who left Retro Studios this year joined 343 so the Metroid Prime part is true--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.113|210.56.91.113]] 10:14, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
-State your sources.  I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night.  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:34, 5 August 2011 (EDT).
-:::Ok, that is likely true. Microsoft has recruited people from gaming studios all over the place for 343i. Former Bungie employees included. However, 343i has never done anything but Halo. The people in it are a different story. They have a lot of veterans. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 14:19, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
-Just for Vegerot.
-http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgamekyo.com%2Fgroupnews_article19971.html
-http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/killzone-and-metroid-designers/1237030
-http://vicariousgames.blogspot.com/2011/07/killzone-metroid-designers-working-on.html  --[[Special:Contributions/210.56.81.226|210.56.81.226]] 22:16, 5 August 2011 (EDT)
-OK, thanks.  Somebody should put this in the Halo: Anniversary, Halo 4, and 343 Industries pages.  I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night.  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:32, 6 August 2011 (EDT)!!!!!!
-I'm only worried about the composer. His work on Castlevania is merely decent (I went and looked it up). He only produced and didn't compose anything for MGS. I hope he's actually a good composer, or if not at least he can properly choose which earlier soundtracks to place in Halo 4. I'm okay with the rest of the team (although Killzone seems like a dubious choice, as does Metroid Prime).
-:I agree, I hope the music is good. Good music is half of what makes this series so great! [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 07:21, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
-::THe guys from Retro studios have shown that they can adapt to different styles of games, I think they'll fit in easily. Who's the composer?--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.81.249|210.56.81.249]] 07:27, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
-:::Since some guys from Retro Studios are in it, it makes me think that we might be solving some Forerunner puzzles inside the Legendary Planet while we're fighting enemies. --[[User:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''''X'''''</span><span style="color:#FF7518">'''''Super'''''</span><span style="color:#CE0000">'''''Gamer'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#303030">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup> 16:18, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
-::::That's like saying the only thing Blizzard employees can make are MMOs, when they've proven themselves very adaptable in other genres. It doesn't necessarily follow. I'm sure whatever 343i have cooking will be of a high standard, whatever it is, regardless of where the people working on it came from. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:44, 14 August 2011 (EDT)
-:: Well actually we don't know who the composer is yet because as of now the job title merely states "audio director". But since Marty was also audio director, and most video game audio directors end up being composers (besides, they wouldn't announce the audio director before the composer) it's very likely that the composer for Castlevania will be the composer for Halo 4.
-== Halo Fest ==
-I don't know how to put a source for this with a touchpad but if you search Halo 4 on Google News, an article on Kotaku states that they have found a panel at Halo Fest for Halo 4, with concept art depicting alien environments and a spacecraft. There's a video to substantiate this. I don't think it's important enough to warrant an edit to the article but just to let you know.
-:[http://kotaku.com/5834660/there-are-halo-4-teases-on-this-wall Is this it]?--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 09:12, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
-::343 Industries have just happened to have released some of the concept art of that Panel onto their YouTube account: [http://youtu.be/vAKmu2yn3Fk '''YouTube''': ''Halo 4 Concept Art Glimpse'']
-I just uploaded all of those concept images:
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-So should we incorporate these into the gallery?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:red">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] [[Image:HGBrute.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:orange">"Talk"</span>]]) 15:07, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
-== Line Installation? ==
-I'm thinking that the Legendary Planet might be a Line Installation. Looking at the new concept art, the opening sucks in ships and there was wreckage of at least a dozen ships visible on the inside. Also that creepy thing with the red eye at the end could easily have been on of those tenticle things that grabs the survivors to test for Flood immunity/cure. We also know that Anniversary's Terminals will tie in to the Halo 4 story, and Spark make some strange remarks about his previous assignment, and we know that Line Installations have a monitor. This would also be an excuse to have Human allies, weapons, equipment, and vehicles, with them being trapped there and left from the crashed ships. They could also have Covenant enemies, even Elites, as they would probably know nothing of the end of the war, the Brute's takeover, and the Covie Seperatists. It's also possible (though this is complete speculation) that the Spirit Of Fire could have gotten sucked in and those characters could play a part. Given that 343 likes to use stuff from ALL of the Halo universe, and tie stuff together (terminals, Halo 4, the two new books) when Bungie almost never did, this seems quite possible. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:56, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
-:This is probably the best theory I've heard, and if this isn't the story, it would still make a damn good one. However, the fact remains that 343i says that the Chief will be facing a ''new'' enemy. There is nothing new about these enemies. At any rate, since this is speculation, it should be made into a forum, not on the talk page of Halo 4. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 21:51, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
-::We have forums here? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 22:19, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
-== Director's Cut ==
-The supposed director's cut of the Halo 4 trailer, well, I'm pretty sure it's a w.i.p. trailer made sometime before E3 to give clients an idea of what the finished product would look like. My evidence is as follows:
-. Sound Effects. The Sound effects in the trailer are thrown together from existing sound files. For example, the booster pack used the Halo Reach jetpack sound effects. The over all sound effect work is less than good at best.
-. The music sounds like a stand in score. I'm pretty sure it' stock music, too.
-Anyway, we should consider that it was not a final trailer, but an early render to give the clients (343i) an idea of what the final product may look like.
-[[User talk:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] 13:04, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
-== Master Chief ==
-Ok to those who have read the halo books should be confused as i am, cause it says how he hates being in space but yet he's doing mean as stunts in the halo 4 trailer. Strange aint it?
-[[User talk:SPARTAN-225|SPARTAN-225]] 22:32, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
-:Not at all. Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean he's not good at it. He's a Spartan - built for battle, bred for war. Trained as a child to be the best soldier ever fielded by the human race, equipped with technology a century ahead of its time. Plus, this is ''John'' -  the man who was chosen for his luck. He is the best at virtually everything he does. And that is why we love him. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:28, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
-:Not to sound like a total suck up, but I had a few tears after reading that depiction.  Well done Specops.  By the by: it is stated by John in the books that every Spartan had zero-gee training but only a few were ever truly comfortable in space. --[[User talk:Bruce2401|Bruce2401]] 04:11, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
-:Would YOU be confortable in space? Would you be confortable in space with people trying to shoot you? In space? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 18:23, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
-::The Chief is comfortable in any battle environment he has been trained in, including space.--[[User:Halofan1234|光环的家伙]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 18:28, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
-== Human and Covenant Weapons ==
-This got me thinking for awhile. If John and Cortana are stranded on an unknown Forerunner planet out of reach from human and ally Covenant contact, how exactly are weapons going to play out? Will most of the human and Covenant weapons be scrapped and exchanged with Forerunner tech due to the only possible location to find weapons that players would recognize being in the wreckage of the Dawn? I'm surprised that any haven't found too many discussions regarding this. --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 14:39, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
-:I dont care as long as theres stickys. <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Verdana;">[[User:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#536872;">Bush</span><span style="color:#5F9EA0;">Wookie</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#91A3B0;">Camper</span>]]</sup></span> 14:47, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
-::I like the idea that the player would have to scavenge for weapons in the Dawn, until they make contact with friendly forces. If they go the route ODST went, and made an enormous landscape hub world, then you might have to return to the Dawn periodically to resupply between missions, unlocking new parts of the Dawn as Cortana gets around to it. I also like the idea of new weapons - not ''too'' new, of course, since there are some arsenal staples that are simply a must. The Warthog, for example, and the assault rifle. And, of course, anything that has been canonically replaced can still be accessed on the Dawn. We know that Johnson and the Arbiter took samples of the others' weaponry to familiarise themselves with, so older Covenant weapons would plausible be available still. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:47, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
-It is important to remember that we have no idea what this planet ''is'' exactly. We still don't know what the interior of Onyx is like (a pressumably similar place). That's where I think the "ressonant connections" with Halo 4 will be in Glasslands. We're not even entirely sure what the shield worlds were used for. We assume they were used to shield the Forerunners from the Halos, yet none of the Forerunners survived. So what WERE they used for?
-This is a very rich place for 343i to write a story that allows us to use the old weapons. There is no way to predict what they'll come up with. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 20:25, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
-there are humans in Halo 4. You can see in the concept art!--[[User talk:Re L|Re L]] 22:59, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
-I'm not sure, it would be interesting to see Forerunner weaponry.  But it would be kinda overpowered, more like REALLY overpowered.  I also don't see how a human and a weak ancilla could operate Forerunner weaponry to its full extent (for example, we see that Forerunner can shape their hard-light weapons mid-shit, Cortana can defiantly not calculate operations that quickly). Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  22:13, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!
-== Release Date ==
-Hey guys, I was at GameStop buying Skyrim and I decided to look through the book they keep out front that has all the release dates of future games in it and lo and behold the first thing that I happened to spot was the title ''Halo 4''. It said that it was being released on November 2nd, 2012. This information may not have been released publicly but maybe given to retail stores and GameStop just so happened to display it in this handy-dandy book. I put in the necessary information to the necessary pages but I'm not sure how to cite it. I just used the Citation Needed template for now. If anyone could know what to change it to that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! - [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:00, 2 January 2012 (EST)
-:As far as I know, the industry does that kind of thing often, picking a "likely" release date as a placeholder until the official date is set. Halo has a history of September/November release dates, so it's a reasonable guess. I don't know that they're privy to information the fans are not, but until we have official confirmation we should regard it as just a rumour. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:05, 2 January 2012 (EST)
-::Well any release date is always speculative. The point being that it is ''set'' to be released on that date, but probably wont ''end up'' being released then. [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:11, 2 January 2012 (EST)
-:::I agree with Specops. [http://www.ebgames.ca/xbox-360/halo-4/309751 Gamestop.ca] actually lists the release date as September 1 - which is pretty optimistic considering we haven't seen any real media since the announcement trailer. It's just a guess so they can write an actual date instead of "Holiday 2012"--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 22:14, 2 January 2012 (EST)
-::::Well I'm not sure then... Maybe just keep the Citation Needed template up? [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:17, 2 January 2012 (EST)
-:::::{{Quote|This article is about an upcoming game. Editors must cite sources for all contributions to this article. Edits that do not follow this standard will be reverted without notice. For more information, see the Citation Policy.|Top of page.}}
-:::::If it is not cited, then it will be removed.--[[File:Pipboy300.jpg|20px]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="Color:black; font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 130%">Commander Spartacus</span>]] ~ '''''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ŤДŁĶ</span>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ</span>]] ~ [[Special:EmailUser/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĚṂДǏŁ</span>]]''''' 11:42, 3 January 2012 (EST)
-::::::Citation Needed doesn't count as citing it? I guess that makes sense but this is ''legit'' information... Is GameStop allowed to make up a release date for the game? [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 15:30, 3 January 2012 (EST)
-:::::::Yes. Yes they are. So far, the only timeframe we have is the 2012 "holiday" season, from a Waypoint update, which is quite sufficient for now. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 16:05, 3 January 2012 (EST)
-::::::::I see... This is disappointing... [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 19:54, 3 January 2012 (EST)
-:::::::::You shoulda taken a picture. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  20:49, 4 January 2012 (EST)!
-::::::::::Still this is the closest we have [[User talk:1-10|1-10]] 22:59, 5 January 2012 (EST)
-:::::::::::See my previous comment.--[[File:Pipboy300.jpg|20px]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="Color:black; font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 130%">Commander Spartacus</span>]] ~ '''''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ŤДŁĶ</span>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ</span>]] ~ [[Special:EmailUser/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĚṂДǏŁ</span>]]''''' 23:08, 5 January 2012 (EST)
-:::::::::::GameStop is not an official party of the franchise nor it is one of the press. As such, anything they announce without representation from an official party shall be considered as a speculation.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:11, 6 January 2012 (EST)
-On the Halo 4 project page Release Date is Holiday 2012, but look at this: http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/Headlines/post/2012/01/19/McFarlane-Toys-Brings-the-Entire-Halo-Universe-to-Collectors-with-Halo-Micro-Ops.aspx <br/>
-"This fall, Microsoft Studios and 343 Industries are releasing Halo 4, the highly anticipated video game expected to be one of the top entertainment launches of 2012. McFarlane Toys is proud to announce that its best-selling line of Halo action figures continues this fall as well, with figures from Halo 4." <br/> So, are they really moving release to this fall? I guess, we'll see it a short time. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 18:58, 20 January 2012 (EST)
-:Technically, fall goes almost all the way into December, so it's not an error. Sign your comments.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-::Sorry, I thought, I did. Signed that one too now. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 18:58, 20 January 2012 (EST)
-== Toy release ==
-Should the release for the figures on January 24th be in the article
-:No.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-It seems worth mentioning. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 21:40, 18 January 2012 (EST)
-:It's already mentioned in the trivia section. It doesn't belong in the body of the article, though. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 22:55, 18 January 2012 (EST)
-Oh. So it is. [[Special:Contributions/165.138.37.177|165.138.37.177]] 07:49, 19 January 2012 (EST)
-== Toy Figures ==
-Let's hope, aside from seeing Master Cheif, Cortana, and a New Warthog, that we see someone/something "special" like maybe a forerunner (or other...) vehicle and/or character, just something different to help us speculate further rather than being left in the dark...again.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 18:09, 24 January 2012 (EST)
-:My guess: it will be marines. LOL.{{Unsigned|PatrickRus}}
-::Haha, I don't think they would make a figure of just a regular marine, maybe an ODST they would.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 15:09, 25 January 2012 (EST)
-:::Why not? They released regular ones for H3 and Reach. Well, ODST is not a new thing, but at least interesting. Also, here where I live is already 26th. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 17:22, 25 January 2012 (EST)
-::::Yeah, I just realized that...You in the UK? Any info on the figures? I'm constantly checking at this point but haven't found anything posted.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 18:50, 25 January 2012 (EST)
-:::::Russia, GMT+4, and no info on Waypoint yet. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 19:18, 25 January 2012 (EST)
-Guys, just a note, try not to social on talk pages, people might remove it because they are not "contributive"... I would buy the new Warthog replica :P It looks pretty cool in FM4. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:24, 25 January 2012 (EST)
-:I were not actually trying... but anyway, 25th should be everywhere now, and still no info about figures? I googled, and the Toy Fair is 24-26. So we still have 1 day. As we get some pictures, could anybody post links somewhere here? [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 21:47, 25 January 2012 (EST)
-::@''Spartan331'' Okay you say try not to "social"-lize, yet you switch-up and say "I would buy the new Warthog replica"? Isn't that socializing? If I had info to contribute then I would but right now I have nothing and can only wait until someone post something. Not angry at you dude but seriously, this entire discussion page is about socializing about whats to come in Halo 4 based off our speculation. Am I wrong? Once official information has been released it goes in the article.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 13:07, 26 January 2012 (EST)
-* Good point, Killamint!--[[User talk:Bdgroot-117|Bdgroot-117]] 15:47, 26 January 2012 (EST)
-:I don't consider this kind of talk to be the "social" kind that should not be on talk pages. Social talking is off-topic, barely on topic, or theory's about what might happen (unless there's really strong evidence). When it comes to Halo 4 (etc), we're all excited, and all of this is an example of something that isn't off topic, we're trying to gather info on the toys that are supposed to have been shown to see if we can gather any new info on the new game/trilogy. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:13, 26 January 2012 (EST)
-::*Thanks ''Bdgroot''...Agreed ''Alex''. And with that being said, I'm not going to post anything else until I see those figures. It's the 26th and I haven't seen/heard anything yet, so I'll patiently wait for Waypoint, Halo4follower, or the wiki itself to have something posted.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 17:41, 26 January 2012 (EST)
-:::@''Bdgroot-117'', ''Killamint'', ''PatrickRus'', ''Alex T Snow'': He means the way you are talking, wishing what is going to be in the game, using "LOL", etc. This isn't the point of a talk page. A talk page is meant to ''discuss'' the article and nothing more. If you want to talk to each other about what action figures you're hoping will be made, then take it to your talk page or message each other through the message board. This isn't the place.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-::::Oh, yeah I totally agree with you there Spartacus. :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:27, 26 January 2012 (EST)
-::::Exactly my point. Thanks for clearing it up, Spartacus. What I meant was talk pages are for discussing topics that would contribute to the article, and not talking about what you want or hope in the game. Sorry if I confused you guys. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:40, 26 January 2012 (EST)
-::::Oh, and the reason why I "switch-up and say 'I would buy the new Warthog replica'" is because I don't want to sound like an a-hole bossing people around, so I decided to talk about what you guys were talking about. Now I sound like a hypocrite. Maybe I should have sounded like an a-hole bossing people around instead. ): —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:51, 26 January 2012 (EST)
-:::::Hahahaha :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 01:23, 27 January 2012 (EST)
-Info from Waypoint http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/Headlines/post/2012/01/26/Jada-Toys-Introduces-Halo-Die-cast-Collectibles.aspx --[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.243|210.56.91.243]] 00:54, 27 January 2012 (EST)
-:Thanks.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-::*So three companies ('''''Jada Toys''''', '''''Re:creation''''', and '''''McFarlane Toys''''') are making items for Halo 4? Should ''McFarlane Toys'' & ''Jada Toys'' be mentioned in the trivia section?--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 11:57, 27 January 2012 (EST)
-:::Re:creation are partnered with Jada. They're handling the distribution in the UK and Ireland.--[[Special:Contributions/210.56.91.87|210.56.91.87]] 20:34, 27 January 2012 (EST)
-::::It's already mentioned.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-Who ever continues to ad the part about the 24th needs to stop. They weren't shown they were only speculation as far as I know. But they didn't show Halo related content at the fair. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 10:34, 30 January 2012 (EST)
-:Ok fine. You could have stated that in your edit summary.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-I'm still learning how to use this site. I have no clue what I'm doing so I try to keep it simple. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 14:04, 30 January 2012 (EST)
-:Whatever you type in the small box right above the "Save Page" button is the Edit Summary. If you go into the history of the page to compare, say, what's been changed since you last were at the page, Edit Summaries can be seen beside each version, if the person wrote one. :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 16:00, 30 January 2012 (EST)
-== Latest News ==
-Just a small article[http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-files-complaint-over-halo-4-beta-site-6349394] I wanted to post if anyone hasn't seen it.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 18:03, 31 January 2012 (
-Wonderful Microsoft is doing something about the false beta sites. Any thing you think we could work into the article? [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 10:48, 1 February 2012 (EST)
-:Not too much info has been presented other than the fact that MS is trying to claim a beta site that is using MS's Halo trademark. I'll post more legitmate articles once they have been found.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 16:51, 2 February 2012 (EST)
-== New Image of John Action Figure ==
-[[File:MarkVII cosplay.jpg|300px|right|link=]]
-[[File:H4 MC proto.jpg|200px|right|link=]]
-I can't upload in the page, can anyone do it for me?
-[http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini/13022012/r_Halo-4_notizia.jpg img--->]
-:Nice image. I'll see what I can do.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-::Alright, I've uploaded the [[:File:Waypoint H4 MC.jpg|image]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
-::Keep it mind that this is a prototype, not the actual figure yet. :) —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:44, 13 February 2012 (EST)
-:::The helmet looks very [[The Package]]-y, I like it :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:49, 13 February 2012 (EST)
-::::Is it just me or does this toy look a little altered from the armor in the awakening trailer? Like the shoulder plates are low as heck, the rear area rises too high above the shoulders, and overall Master Chief appears "under-armored". Seems underdone. I know its a prototype but still.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 17:03, 13 February 2012 (EST)
-:::::I'll just [[:File:MarkVII cosplay.jpg|leave this here]] and [[:File:H4 MC proto.jpg|here]]...— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 17:07, 13 February 2012 (EST)
-That looks pretty good even for a prototype, and he even has the unidentified weapon. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 09:01, 14 February 2012 (EST)
-:In ''Glasslands'', Naomi-010 says that the Mark VII is lighter than the Mark VI. [[Wikipedia:Chekhov's gun|Obviously, the Mark VII wasn't introduced just for sake of the novel]]. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 23:19, 14 February 2012 (EST)
-Do you mean this is supposed to be Mrk VII? If so then its got the scare from [[Halo 3]] so I'm fairly certain that's still VI [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 08:46, 16 February 2012 (EST)
-:The scar could easily be a coincidence. It may even be an embellishment for the not-yet-finalized action figure. Frankly, this suit bears rather little resemblance to the Mark VI. Frankie has said that the changes to John's suit will have an in-universe justification; [[Wikipedia:Occam's razor|Occam's razor]] suggests that he was implying it's an entirely new suit. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 09:20, 16 February 2012 (EST)
-*Okay I know what I said earlier but the latest image of the figure (John holding the grenade pistol) looks better. I wasn't feelin that first one. But here is [http://c3333424.r24.cf0.rackcdn.com/937c1844a7bcf6deb992d413b9eb756809615b14.JPG__620x413_q85_crop_upscale.jpg another image] I found (thanks to Halo4follower). I don't know how to upload the image so can somone do it and then tell me how they did it so I know for future reference? Thanks! --[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 13:10, 17 February 2012 (EST)
-:Slightly off topic, but if the big figure is holding the H4 MA5, it looks just like the H3 one, but with the MA37's large flash hider. Not complaining, I think H3's weapons look the best anyway. :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:39, 17 February 2012 (EST)
-Well the trailer has to be Mark VI right? It has the same gash. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 21:17, 17 February 2012 (EST)
-:The trailer, and the figure, is representative. For example, the Halo 3 reveal trailer, with the Chief emerging from the dust to see the Ark never happened that way in-game. I was disappointed about that, but that's a conversation for another talk page. My point is that it's meant to show us exciting stuff to get us excited, not represent the game in its final format. I'm sure we'll see how the Chief gets the new armour, how it gets the scar, and that it will make sense. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:47, 17 February 2012 (EST)
-::In [http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/post/2011/06/08/343-Sparkast-004-E3-Edition.aspx ''343 Sparkast 004''], Frank O'Connor said that the events depicted in the ''Awakening'' trailer are ''"definitely not a part of the real game story"''. As Specops has stated above, the trailer depicts a (possibly very) loose abstraction of what really happens in the game. As 343i employees have stated a few times now, most notably in [http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/Headlines/post/2012/02/15/The-Halo-Bulletin-21512.aspx ''The Halo Bulletin: 2.15.12''], John's appearance will undergo some drastic changes to make him seem more human and relatable. This does not mean that the Mark VI's appearance has been drastically retconned; it simply means that his armor looks different, which is much more likely to mean that he gets a new suit at some point. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 16:50, 18 February 2012 (EST)
-=category H-4 in article=
-At this Pc it doesn't link to anything: "This category currently contains no pages or media.
-Anyone else got it working?"--[[User talk:Bdgroot-117|Bdgroot-117]] 15:53, 20 February 2012 (EST)