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==Title Image==
It says it is pending a rating. Someone should fix that. --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato]] 20:16, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


==Gamepro Halo Wars Article==
http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/242938.aspx


Just read it. [[User:Elite's Rule|Elite&#39;s Rule]] 01:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
==Sequel??==
Does anyone else get the hint that there is going to be a sequel? I mean, like, the legendary ending and how Cutter puts something of Forge's into a cryo chamber (What is that, anyways?) Yeah I know that Ensemble is closing, but the new Robot people could probably pull it off. Anyone else think that there could be a sequel? Joem2502:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


Hmm... good to see that my thread has gotten outside attention. It only paid attention to the featured UNSC units though. No new Covenant units were announced.[[User:Quirel|Quirel]] 06:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
*there already is one its called halo 1 ha ha[[Special:Contributions/204.186.3.139|204.186.3.139]] 02:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
There may be one but they may think some people really enjoy the cliff hanger that is never answered crap.
yeah cliff hangers suck and if their never answered its  crap --[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 16:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


==Contact Harvest==
==Halo Wars updating==
do you think they will put parts from the book as cutscenes? especially important parts with the prophets


Are we going to add things from Halo Wars like health and damage into the existing articles or make new ones?
For example, add the damage a Spartan does with a Spartan Laser shot to the Spartans Laser's page, Spartan II's page or a whole new page? [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 19:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


==Spartans==


==Covenant Playable?==
Who are these Spartans? Do you think they'll ever reveal to us, throughout the course of the story, who they are (i.e. Name and Number)? Also, do you think they'll show us their faces? Their helmets, contrary to populat belief, are not stuck on. H1's ending shows John taking off his helmet, H2's start and H3's ad both show John putting on his helmet. Also, in the books, the Spartan have been shown their faces before. Normally only in the presense of other Spartans or trusted accosiates, like Halsey, but still...


Are the covenant playable here? This may have been already asked buy I have no idea. {{SUBST:Kalasig}} 05:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Just checked. The whole OMEGA group in campaign mode has names, numbers, everything. No appereance without helmets, though. Nor they've appeared as something more than just Spartan-IIs in off-game cinematics yet. "Talking head" is just the helmet.


Reply:
==Flood enemies==
How big of a threat do you think the flood will be to your infintry,A small one or a huge ginormas one that will piss you off?[[User talk:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 21:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


There is no doubt that you  can play as the Covenant. I am intrerested in how the developers will even out the powwer of the UNSC and the Covenant, as the Covenant is far more superior then the Marines and such then the UNSC. Especially in Space Combat...
Are the flood going to be able to infect Spartans? The flood is a menace in the halo games but they are going to be more of a menace in Halo wars. They will just infect troops turn them against you. Will flood use weapons? Will they be able to me lee everything?


Too bad the Flood can't appear in this (unless the story gets massively retconned). It would be cool to play as them in an RTS and have to infect enemy units.
:Don't create whole new categories for a comment that already fits into a present category. Furthermore, discussions based off of relevant or irrelevant news to add to an article. This isn't a forum where you can spew ideas around about how the game will play. Do that at Bungie.net or Ensemblestudios.com
[[User talk:Colonel Calamity|Colonel Calamity]] 18:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


==Halo Wars Marines==
Sith Venator they cant as Spartans have Genetic Augmentations which means that they cant take ove ra modified body like Sergeant Johnson as he is a Spartan 1


Ive noticed that the armor the marine are wearing dosnt seem to be made out of any tipe of metal and theres not much high tech stuff there, wat are your speculations? [[User:Mendoza|Mendoza]] 8:34, 8 2007 (UTC)
== Interesting New Article ==


Reply:
Hey guys I just stumbled across this today.  I think it has a lot of fun new information.  I haven't really worked on this page but someone who has here is the link http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3172311 to a 1up.com exclusive about Halo Wars.


I have noticed this as well. The Humans in the zHalo Series don't seem to have much better technology then we do today. The only real thing that is much more high tech that we don't have today is space travel and splipstream travel. For instance, the Main Cannon of the Scorpion tank is 90mm, which is weak compared to US tanks today, such as the Abrams, with a 144mm cannon. I think 144... I know it's more then 90mm though.
[[User talk:Colonel Calamity|Colonel Calamity]] 00:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Colonel Calamity


The armor the marines wear could be  made of a metal we do not know of today, it could be made on some colony or other planet or something. In the future, it is safe to assume that we will find more and powerful metals or fabrics better suited for war.
== glassing ==


It looks awesome though
lol! glassing reminds me of the particle up link canon in command and conquer generals zero hour.
And the flood is going to be a menace.


==Fodder==
:Well ya the Flood are going to be a menace, they always are, & Glassing is going to be fun! (not meant to be offensive) -- User:Mechanical-Menace


Fodder an in Cannon Fodder is spelled FODDER!
== Exclusive? ==


[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fodder fodder] - people considered as readily available and of little value: cannon fodder.
It says this is a 360 exclusive, unlike the rest of the series.


==Wishlist==
What other platform was Halo 3 on? Wasn't that a 360 exclusive? [[Special:Contributions/24.78.46.197|24.78.46.197]] 03:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


All this needs to completely rule my life:
Are you kidding me!?!  You are editing a Halo-based wiki and you don't know what consoles it has been released for?  All Halo games are owned by Microsoft.  Thus all numbered Halos have been released on the Xbox.  Halo:CE and Halo 2 were also released for the Windows platform.  Halo:CE was also released for Mac OS back in the day when Halo was originally designed for the Mac (prior to its rights being bought out by Microsoft).  Halo Wars will follow a similar pattern.  Right now Microsoft is sticking to their guns and saying Halo Wars will only be released on the 360.  With Ensemble being closed soon I doubt we'll see a PC port within the next two years.  Heck it took Halo 2, two years to be ported to the PC.


*A PC port.
[[User talk:Colonel Calamity|Colonel Calamity]] 00:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Colonel Calamity
*A galactic map like from Star Wars: Empire at War
*A galactic conquest mode (like Empire at War or War of the Ring mode in Battle for Middle Earth)-- [[User:CaptJim|CaptJim]] 03:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


Wont happen, its a Xbox 360 Exclusive. The other stuff...probably. --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 02:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Confirming this as far as it is known in Microsoft's Russian unit. Also agree with the upper statement as far as remember.


Well, Halo and Halo 2 were Xbox exclusives but came/are coming to PC, so I'll keep hoping. [[User:CaptJim|CaptJim]] 02:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Halo 3 still hasn't been ported as it would run on virtually no computers. And that was a 360 exclusive that didn't get ported, so Halo Wars might not either. [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 19:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


Alright, they will come, but not for....4 years. --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 10:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
== Somebody is inserting their own opinion into the article ==


halo pc is already out i have it. halo 2 pc is coming. -[[Image:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''[[Image:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><span style="color: olive"><u>the rebelious anarchist</u></span></b>]][[Image:Mandskull.jpg|29px]][[User:RimFire|<b><span style="color: red">Terminus</span></b>]]</sup> 20:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
"Spartans do not have shields, as they are outfitted with the MJOLNIR Mk. IV, meaning they should not be capable of supporting AIs, a fact which has apparently been overlooked."  Whoever wrote this obviously didn't read the books. Cortana and/other smart AI's are capable of putting themselves into most electronic devices. In "The Fall of Reach," I think,  or the book where Master Chief is tested by the Admiral in a field test, he doesn't have the Mark V yet but Cortana is still downloaded into his suit and giving him instructions.
[[User talk:Colonel Calamity|Colonel Calamity]] 18:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


Well, how the hell do you play RTS games on a console!? [[User:NeoExelor|NeoExelor]] 23:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, the armour he wore during the field test is the MJOLNIR Mk. V. It is the first MJOLNIR armour to sport such feature (Shield System). In addition, the suit was able to support AI. I think you misread... but it is true, there shouldn't be any personal opinion in the article.-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


I hope you can plug in a mouse and keyboard for the 360
In "The Fall of Reach it is stated that the crystal layer for supporting AI and the shield system are improvements that were installed in MJOLNIR Mk. V and not before (the shield technology was derived from jackal shields captured by Blue team and the other spartans AFTER the Mk. IV armour was issued so UNSC shield technology could not possibly have existed at the time of the battle of Harvest), it is also mentioned that the Mk. V needed a much larger Fusion core to power these new add-ons so anything below Mk. V armour would not have been able to support these even if the were installed.[[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 09:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


i have no clue -[[User:RimFire|<font color="red">Echelon</font>]][[Image:Honor_Guardelite.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<font color="purple">(talk)</font>]]</sup><sup>[[User talk:RimFire/Archive 1|<font color="purple">|</font></sup><font color="green">|</font><sub>|</sub>]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/RimFire|(contribs)]]</sub> 21:09, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Bad news: Spartan's armour in Halo Wars appears to have shields. At least a shield bar and all the sounds are there. The manual says nothing about the model, but it '''does say''' it is shielded. Somebody was a fan of Mark IV, but this point of view needs reconsidering.


Have any of yall played Battle for Middle Earth 2 on the 360 you use the thumbsticks to move the camera and the A button to select units and tell them who to beat up and where to go.Although the keyboard and mouse on 360 dosent sound to bad. So yes IT IS POSSIBLE to play a RTS on a console infact it (to me at least) feels simpler and easier to pick up and play.
I think Everyone should keep in mind that Halo Wars isn't so true to the Halo Story Bible as the Halo games by Bungie and the books written by various authors. For instance, the Arbiter is meant to be a sacraficial or risk-taking role to redeem one's honor in death, but in Halo Wars, the Arbiter is a powerful military leader who's able for the most part to do what he wants without opposition. IMO, Halo Wars shouldn't be considered canon, or at least only parts of it should be canon (like historic events, people, etc.; but not disputable or constradicting things.)


My Wishlist:Graphics as good at the trailers,multiplayer,the abbilite for 100 or so units on one field,Space Battles ,a Covenant campaign (anybody wanted to glass a planet?).
*I would agree with the above. The UNSC suddenly developed energy weapons, which they didn't have until the early 2550s. Also, the UNSC and the Covenant both encounter the Flood, which contradicts earlier canon. The Covenant is easily capable of communicating through slipspace, which means that the Covenant should have known what the Flood was. Also, the Flood was encountered by Spartans. Since all of the Spartans were accounted for in 2552, and we knew of the specific casualties, that means that the entire Spartan Program should have known about the Flood... which they didn't. (Quirel)


Awsome idea, sweep away UNSC resistance and glass billions o humans ;P I know that sounds sarcastic but it's not. --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 21:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
That's right. But who knows what happened to the "Spirit"? Maybe by 2552 she's still deep inside Covenant territory, unable to report it's findings? And the Covenant never seemed to worry about the Parasite, did they? They should've guessed what the Flood was after they've studied so many Forerunner artifacts! But they've overlooked it!
Yeah I consider my self a expert on halo and know more about halo than these guys.And there trying make a game for halo they should have studied it more.


==Questions==
== New Covenant Unit?? ==


#Why do they have battle rifles?
<nowiki>I was watching the new video of Halo Wars today on xbox.com/halo, when I noticed a huge covenant unit that looks a lot like a Scarab, but it isn't. Quickly pause at 2:03. It looks a lot like a Scarab. Maybe it is a building of some sort...? There is a link for it on the Halo Wars website.
#And why do the Elites have fat upper bodies? 
#And most importantly that omega crap!Whats up with that?!
--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 09:55, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


:#Good question..isnt this 27 years before The Fall Of reach? And they wouldnt have those...they would have...Assualt Rifles....
I would also like to add that for those who haven't watched this video it gives some great in-game footage of Spartans, as well as the multiplayer map supposed to be modeled after Blood Gulch. You can really see the resemblences.
:#They do? I think they just wanted it to make it in porportion of a regular human's point of view and not a huge Spartan.
:#Omega Crap? What do you mean by that?
--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 02:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


::*I mean thers no spartans other then the first class of 2525.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 20:01, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Response: You fool! It's a Scarab under construction!</nowiki>


And you know this, how? Its obviously not a new unit, like I suggested.


:*I’m a bit disappointed it’s a RTS i would of preferred a first person shooter , and whats the unnamed Halo project they mention [http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?link=bungieatx06] and are they wearing mark 6 Mjolnir ? --12:32, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Actually you're half right, it's not a normal scarab but it's only made for that campaign mission. It's a super scarab (check the mission objectives)


::*The unnamed project should be a game for halo first strike.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 18:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
==Rock Band 2 References?==


:::*sweet, is that what they said or what you want?   --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 19:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed that two achivements in this game are both references to songs that are in Rock Band 2. He's got the Jack is a reference to the AC/DC song "The Jack" that is in the AC/DC LIVE Rock Band Track Pack. Ramblin' Man is a song by the All-man Brother's band. Does anyone think that they are a fans of just the bands or Rock Band 2 in general? -[[User: Joem25]]


::::*What i want.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 19:58, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Not everything is a refrence, it is most likley not.


:#um, this is back on the first 2 questions. First, the Elites formed the Covenant with the Prophets, and Engineers, the Elites as warriors and protectors for them. Anyways, they had been studying the humans for a long time (suggested in Halo: Fall of Reach) and knew that the humans had to be dealt with for being a threat to their "gods." So they sent their best race of units, Elites.
Also, "He's got the Jack" most likely refers to the "Jackhammer", which is a nickname for a rocket launcher in the Halo universe. I don't know much about the other suspected reference, but I'm guessing it's also false. Besides, "He's got the Jack" and "The Jack" is a pretty far stretch if you ask me. [[User talk:TheREALBloodscar|TheREALBloodscar]] 07:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:#Second Question. First I want to comment that it was not the Elites, Hunters, or Grunts that were the traitors. The Prophets actually had the Brutes assassainate all the Elite High Councilers, leading to Civil War. Thus, the Prophets, Brutes, Jackals, and Drones are the traitors. Second, the Brutes probably would have joined, and might show up in this game. However, they were the most recent added alien race to the Covenant, and were probably just being added at the time. Secondly, Jackals would die in that enviroment. Third, Drones weren't soldiers for the Covenant until right before Halo 2. And third, Prophets don't fight. Anyways, these are just opinions, thank you.


1. Don't know. Sorry.
Plus, I've seen two references to Age of Mythology, one of Ensemble's earlier projects.


2. Don't want to know, but maybe it's to protect them from the frigid conditions.
The first is the [[Cyclops]] powered armor. If you've read the article, then you know about it: Both Cyclopses (from HW and AoM) deal heavy damage and have similar special powers-the Greek Cyclops will throw enemies at other enemies, the UNSC Cyclops will rip a vehicle to shreds and throw the pieces at enemies. The second is the skull "Wuv Woo" which you should already know about after having Halo Wars for some time: Wuv Woo, when turned on, makes Scarabs shoot rainbows (or "beams of pure love"), and is a reference to the Flying Purple Hippo, summoned by the name of the skull. [[User:SPARTAN-984|S]]-[[User talk:SPARTAN-984|9]][[Special:Contributions/SPARTAN-984|8]]4 22:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


3. As the Halo Wars pagepoints out, they are wear a variation of the MJOLNIR Mark IV Armour, which means that they are probably part of the Spartan-I Program. [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 11:52, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
==game manual==


1. Maybe they are not the same model maybe a earlier model.
I found the manual for the game on the official Halo Wars website heres a link http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/31804095-7B32-4CE2-A17E-3CB54A3692EF/0/HaloWars_MNL_EN.PDF it holds a lot of new info about the specifics of the game including all the leaders abilities and plenty of other great info. I would add all the info myself but I have never really edited a page and would not know what im doing.  


2. Protection.
== Forerunner Structures and other stuff from the Demo Screen. ==


3.they are Spartan II's a earlier version.
I found a bunch of intel on the buildings from in the game (It took me a long time to get it all). --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 21:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


in answer to the questions at the top:
:Put the gathered information/intel here and we'll see if it is relevant...-<b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>ub<font color="#FF4F00">7</font>ank</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 21:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)


1. it could be an early version that was pulled out of service due to advancements in design
:I put it in the Forerunner section. --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 04:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


2.protection against the cold and the snow
Where exactly did you find this? [[User talk:SQ G T3rr0R|SQ G T3rr0R]] 09:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


3. they could be a small part of a lareger group in first strike pg. 23/24 104 splits red team into alpha beta delta & gamma
:The Text Crawl at the bottom of the Demo Screen. Like I said, it took a while. --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 00:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:Fatman ninja|Fatman ninja]] 18:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


The armor must be the origonal MJOLNIR armor that had no shields. That would explain the different look to it. --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 21:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and another thing that I thought was interesting: it mentioned that you will be able to claim off-base locations for building structures, specifically building Base Turrets in remote areas to act as sentries, as well as minibase sites where you can build individual barracks or supply pads.--[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 04:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
(Possible image of minibase design) File:Barracks_concept.jpg|thumb|left]]


==Skulls==


1. Re:Why is there a battle rifle -- This is probably an earlier version the Battle Rifle
Halo Wars has skulls, as confirmed [http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/halowars/video/6204958/halo-wars-video-review?hd=1 here]. Shouldn't we create an article about them? - [[User:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">Μητσάρας</span>''']] [[User talk:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">κι όποιος</span>''']] [[Special:Contributions/JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">αντέξει</span>''']] File:1229655910-Th_master.jpg|20px]] 20:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
2. Re:Why do the elites have fat chest -- probably earlier armor
3. Re:What's with the omega crap -- These guys are probably Spartan-I's. This is taking place in the past before anything that's been done before. They probably have an earlier version of the MJOLNIR armor too.
4. Why can't the Jackals survive in that environment? They survived the cold on Alpha Halo
5. Does the ship in the middle of the picture of Spartan Group Omega looks like something besides a Pelican?
--[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|40px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font><sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me</font>]]</sup> 20:14, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


:Guess we'd better wait the game to be released.. after that we '''will''' for sure :) Spirit of Fire 19:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


1. Although the battle rifle was not available in HALO:CE, versions were available concurrently with versions of the assault rifle in the HALO universe (ie: Novels). The battle rifle is not necessarily a descendant of the assault rifle; it's a different gun all-together.
It is released, and there are skulls. Why don't we go find them?
3. In 2531 these would be teenage Spartan II's like John 117. Although we can read that spartan teams are usually given colors as names, a group may be much larger than a team. In the USN / USMC a group is a large inter-branch force comprised of units from both the Navy AND Marines (ex: an expeditionary group).
I have found three already they are grunt birthday party, fog and boomstick.
4. I agree, the wings are too long to be a pelican. It looks like a ****sword.
[[User:Cucci|Cucci]] 17:47, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


I have an idea why theres Battle Rifles in Halo Wars and not Halo: CE. In halo 1 you spend one level in the Pillar of Autumn. And your being rushed to Cpt. Keys and the Life Pod. The Master Chief Never Had time to get his weapons like they said in the begining that they had to skip the Weapon diagnostic because Cpt. Keys wanted him on the Bridge on the Double. He only grabbed weapons that were on the Ground. You almost the rest of the game on Halo with not much UNSC contact except Partners. And the Last level Had an armory but all the guns were really thrown around and the BR's couldve been an another armory.--'''[[user:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MYH.Q.</font>]]''' [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MY</font><font color="#78866B">ORDERS</font>]]'''</sup> ·  <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=#78866B>MY</font><font color=black>BAT</font><font color=#6B8E23>TL</font><font color=black>ES</font>]]'''</sub> 01:21, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
== Mythic? ==


==Speculation==
Does anyone know how getting the map pack work? I mean, you have a disc, but does it download to your system to be accessible to Halo 3, or is it a free copy only to the disc, & you have to download it anyway? [[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Deimel Longshot[[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I think Probably Kelly’s story --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 19:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


Kelly's story would be interesting, but I'm sure that Bungie will incorperate her and the remaining Spartans in Halo 3. From what we know, the first encounters of the Covenant didn't end too well for the humans. I'm sure the Spartans in Halo Wars will meet a tragic end, as mentioned above. In addition, I doubt that Bungie would allow another company to take over the developement of a game based around one of their major characters (going by the books). Most of us were dissapointed when Master Chief didn't appear as the Spartan for Dead of Alive. In his stead was Nicole, who was created so that the events in DoA would have no effect on the Halo Trilogy. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that this could be any of the Spartan II's we know, but they will probably be created as some of the unmentioned Spartan II's from the books.--[[User:Culpable Liable|Culpable Liable]]
:For the Limited Edition Halo Wars? I think it'll probably be on a disc, or perhaps a code to download it. For the map pack itself, standing apart from Halo Wars, it'll be purchasable with 800 MS points, as always. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 05:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


with the limited collectors edition you recieve a redeem code for the honor guard wraith, Halo 3 map pack and Xbox Live trial on a piece of card.[[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


Timeing
Ugh, so the is no way to give somebody JUST the Mythic Code? Because I already have them, and I got Halo Wars today. So I want to give the code away, but I want my Honor Gaurd Wraith... :(
It could be set anywere in between halo 1 and 32 years before halo 1 and the covenant-human war has been around for 32 years
[[User talk:Goheels619|Goheels619]] 19:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


== All Halo Wars Cinematics on Youtube ==
{{Spoiler/begin}}
I just discovered the entire theatre of CGI cinematics on youtube. I think we should post them here, but I don't know how to myself (And if I do something wrong, I know you all will yell at me, lol). Here are the links, so could someone put them up to play in the trailers section. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWBe_9R_qIY&feature=channel] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYY0VzAKh2U&feature=channel] --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 03:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


'''Factions'''
:I just added a spoiler tag to your post. Rest assured, once the game comes out the cutscenes will undoubtedly be uploaded individually, and added to the cutscene archive.  --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 04:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
----


As the game is set to be on or around 2531, the various resistance/rebel groups are likely to be playable sides in the game as well. The Spartans were primarily involved in battling these rebels and insurgencies before the covenant attacked and there is a unified rebel force large and capable enough to be a playable faction.[[User:Cucci|Cucci]] 17:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
== Released? ==


i speculate that their will be 4 main factions to start, The [[UNSC]], The [[Covenant]], The [[United Rebel Front]], and The [[Heretics]], but as you progress the Rebel faction will become non-playable and than the [[Covenant Separatists]] will become available, making the main Covenant non-playable and thrn making the [[Covenant Loyalists]] available. making the Covenant Seprestists fight along side the UNSC and the Heretics no-longer playable. with numerous pirate and smaller [[rebel]] factions ([[Eridanus Rebels]]) that you have to fight along the way and there may even be the [[flood]] and [[forerunners]] and if the game starts out during the [[Interplanetary War]] than there will be the [[Koslovics]] and the [[Frieden]] factions.
Where did this get released? It isn't even Feb. 27 yet! [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: lime; font-family: BankGothic Md BT; font-size: 12pt;">'''BPL'''</span>]] 00:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


== The "confirmed elements" list ==
It came out yesterday or today in Japan/Australia. [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 11:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


Amongst the units in the list, There's is:  '''Covenant Elite (With energy swords)''' I was thinking we could add Plasma Rifles to that list, becuase frankly, I doubt there's a Ghost shooting down those two marines at the "last known recon position"... [[User:81.229.40.59|81.229.40.59]] 07:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:I know some websites send the item before the actual release date if you pre-order; I have received a game sometimes 3 or even 4 days before the official release date in the past.[[User talk:Vendack|Vendack]] 14:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


:Yeah that was kind of wierd. I still don't know how the elites were shooting the marines. There hands were empty even when they were close enough for the marines to shoot them. --EliteDeath 21:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
::Because I live in the UK and pre-ordered my copy from GAME I got mine a day erlier then the European release. [[User talk:FishType1|FishType1]] 20:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


::they all had swords. --[[User:RimFire|RimFire]] 14:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
It's over, everyone! I've got it on February 28th, so it should be out now. My one was on Russian, so I think it has been released and localized globally. By the way, translation is fine.


:The beam shot was unlike any of the Covenant weapons. It was differently colored, kind of purplish, and larger than the Plasma pistol and rifle. It also killed a Marine in one hit, unlike in the other games where multiple hits had to do it. I dunno. [[User:Salty|Salty]] 02:36, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
== New 5 long years vid? ==


::it could be a kind of sniper that wasnt used in halo 1 and 2 -[[Image:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''[[Image:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><span style="color: olive"><u>the rebel anarchist</u></span></b>]]</sup>[[Image:Black_sun.jpg|35px]] 01:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
The one that is already there is 6 minutes long. That's like 4 minutes of black screen!


:::Or it could just be because it is made by a diffrent studio
==Grunt Flood?==
So I played the Campaign of Halo Wars today (Dutch, haha) and I noticed that I was fighting ''Infected Grunts''. I selected the Grunts and it showed ''Flood, Infected Grunts''. I thought they couldn't be infected?  [[User talk:SQ G T3rr0R|SQ G T3rr0R]] 00:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


::::i doubt that -[[Image:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''[[Image:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><span style="color: olive"><u>the rebel anarchist</u></span></b>]]</sup>[[Image:Black_sun.jpg|35px]] 01:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
it might have been a different flood form and not a grunt cause the grunts can not get infected i have played the campain and i have seen flood forms that look like grunts but they were not. [[User talk:Shipmaster117|Shipmaster117]] 01:23, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


:::::Well, in the books, the Covenant weapons are stronger than in-game for realism. They're weaker in-game for balanced...ness... The plasma bolt probably looks different because it's a trailer, not actual gameplay. BTW, I'm E93. (didn't bother logging in)
I am really sure that they were Grunts.~They were even called that way. Maybe an oversight from Ensemble? [[User talk:SQ G T3rr0R|SQ G T3rr0R]] 17:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


It could be a new weapon or the Marine was already about to die (he was wounded) or  because it was a trailer (a awesome one at that) it may have been been "Cinematic Exxagiration" or the elites shot the Marine in the Spinal Cord (instant death or Paralyzation) or Ensemble didnt ballance the weapons for the trailer i.e the invisble Energy Sword and the characthers werent balance (the elites didnt have Energy Sheilds.Some,none or all of the reasons above caused the instant pwnage of the marines.Oh one more reason the Elites threw the Energy Sword at the Marines (HIGHLY Unlikey.
What mission? Mission 08 to Mission 10,I know I faced Flood ODST,flying flood;Swams,and a flying carrier-like flood.--[[User talk:SPARTAN-124|SPARTAN-124]] 02:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)SPARTAN-124


Actually, it didn't kill him in one shot it just injured him, then the elite finished him off by stabbing him with his energy sword.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 17:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


== Halogen? ==
Since when can't grunts be infected? Just because you don't see them in Halo: CE, Halo 2, or Halo 3 doesn't mean grunts can't be infected. Also, I have seen the infected grunts as well and they are titled as "Infected Grunt". (PS: Why can't anyone here type with proper grammer, spelling, capitalization, puctuation, AND full sentences?) [[User talk:TheREALBloodscar|TheREALBloodscar]] 07:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


There was a mod for "C&C Generals" called Halogen that was coming out, but Microsoft told them to shut down three years of hard work, saying they were infringing on copyright territory. That was before they officially announced Halo Wars; Halo Wars was announced about a month later. So wouldn't it be logical to assume that the reason Halogen was told to shut down in spite of Halo Wars?  --[[User:StateoffFreedom|StateoffFreedom]] 14:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
:Those are, in fact, Flood-infected Grunts. To above poster: Correct spelling is grammar and punctuation. Don't complain if yours isn't up to par. <span style="color:#666666">'''Smoke''' <sup>[[User:Smoke.|My page]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:Smoke.|My talk]]</sub></span> 08:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


:Reference Link (beware, it's biased but it was the only one that had the most information): http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/13/ms-shuts-down-halogen-mod-why-now/
*Yes, those are infected Grunts. It has been confirmed by other media that the Grunts are not used for combat forms, but are recycled into carrier forms. Whoopsie. (Quirel)
:Oh Halogen looks good, this had better be better --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 17:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


::Yeah I don't think it was fair to shut down halogen. --EliteDeath 21:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Better news. I've seen a pair of jackal combat forms! Just a pair of kig' yar armed with carbines but infected. Seriously, this sounds like Ensemble has deliberately overseen these facts or otherwise the Covenant would have had a real advantage - most of their forces wouldn't be able to become combat forms!


I LOVE BASE BUILDING AND ARMY BUILDING RTS!!!
== Missing Spartans ==


:::Its pure business. Why would Mircosoft want an RTS Halo mod out there, for free, just as they are about to release a full game? Answer is: they don't. They would rather flex their legal muscle, ban the game mod under "copyright infringement", then sell their RTS for $100. Basically, Microsoft would rather make maximum profit from HaloWars, and the best way to do that is to ensure that HaloWars will be the only Halo RTS out there. - [[user:chaota|Chaota]] 22:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Okay under the plot put in for Halo Wars it says this "It should also be noted that on the timeline, it says that 25 of 28 surviving SPARTAN-II's were called to Reach, the other three being Gray Team, meaning that SPARTANs Alice, Douglas and Jerome must have been found, along with the crew of Spirit of Fire,", Although in the same timeline it says that the Spirit of Fire as of  Feb 10th 2534 is considered lost with all hands. So that would mean that the Spartans in the game wouldn't be considered part of the surviving 28 so it doesn't mean they were found. Sorry if I'm coming off as sounding rude or anything I don't mean to and sorry if this is in the wrong spot. [[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 04:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


::::Whatever it is, I'll be so blam!ed off about it if Halo Wars isn't as good as Halogen was looking (twitching)[[User:Keyes|Keyes]] 07:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
*Just my 2 cent, but if it came from ONI, they have a habit of claiming one thing (Spartan's MIA, WIA when they were KIA) so if they were LWAH it could be due to the Flood infection on board or the Spartan's that joined them. I don't offically know but my best guess could be that ONI covered it up, so don't take LWAH to seriously then again perhaps they were LWAH. --[[User talk:Megidra|Megidra]] 19:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


I think that AFTER halo wars is released Microsoft should allow halogen to be released--[[User:Swearingmonk|Swearingmonk]] 20:19, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
*ZIPO's conclusion is not exactly correct. Just because the Spirit of Fire was considered lost on Feb10th, 2534 doesn't mean that it has not been found by 2552, which is when the 28 surviving SPARTAN-II's were mentioned. However, that would lead to more discrepancies in the storyline, such as why didn't ONI know about the Flood? Why did ONI seem surprised at Dr.Halsey's conclusion that there might be a third race (in 2552)? I searched for the timeline mentioned in the plot in Halo Wars, but couldn't find it. Could someone please post where the timeline is mentioned? Thanks. --[[User talk:Ant80|Ant80]] 05:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


== New Tank/Vehicle?? ==
*What I meant was that they weren't necessarily found considering it isn't mentioned in the timeline. Although they still could of been found but that would bring up bigger cannon issues. The timeline is mentioned in the bottom paragraph of the plot section. Also I might just say it doesn't say that some of the surviving crew are infected in the timeline it says that they decided to burn the bodies infected and not bring any samples on board due to how dangerous it is.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 09:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


[[Image:New Tank.png|right|frame||New Tank?]]
I agree. They couldn't have been found as that would have meant the UNSC would've knew of the flood. I think it should be changed.
On the right hand side of the cannon fodder picture is this.  Anyone know what it is?Looks like an old tank.
:*I think it looks like the covenant footsoldiers are about to get pwned, but thats just me.  But its probably just an older version of the scorpion tank from before halo 1 & 2. --EliteDeath 21:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
:*It actualy looks like a scorpion tank with it's cannon exploded
::*It cannot be a scorpion, if you look at a scorpion tank the wheels that move it do not look that way. Besides it has 2 in each side--[[User:Radzon|Radzon]] 22:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::*It looks more like a modern-day tank. Nothing like the Scorpions at all. [[User:Salty|Salty]] 02:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
:::*But it couldn't be a modern tank, if this was way before the halo series[[User:Radzon|Radzon]] 02:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


::::*But all of today's tanks are modern tanks, and today is way before the Halo series.
*It wont be removed people like to use the number given in the fall of reach for how many Spartans are left even thou that number changes a bit in the throughout the book. People seem to want it in the article so much it's now in there twice with additional "Violation's of Halo Cannon" that isn't backed up or is contradicted somewhere else.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 01:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:*I think it is a scorpian tank. An older version.Before the ones in Halo 1&2&3.--[[User:Spartan 1 1 7|Spartan 1 1 7]] 22:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


:*Maybe it's some kind of self propelled artillery? --[[User:CommanderGree117|CommanderGree117]] 19:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
People are forgetting that there were 35 Spartans that survived augmentation. Subtract Kurt, Randall and Shiela as MIA, Cassandra as WIA, Grey team, and the original Red Team, and you get 25 Spartans, the number the timeline states. And remember, Eric Nylund contradicts ''himself'' a lot from TFoR to FS, so his numbers, while they came first, may not be as accurate as they were intended to be. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 07:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


:*Actually now that I look at it. Kinda looks like a building. The part that looks like the wheels of a tank I can't explain. But...., If you look above that it does look lika a plat form. And that circular dome thing could be like a roof. Just saying.--[[User:Spartan 1 1 7|Spartan 1 1 7]] 22:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
The number also changes a few times during TFOR so that makes it less clear still.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 07:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


:*yeah it looks like a rilly big artillery now that i think about it -[[Image:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''[[Image:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><span style="color: olive"><u>the rebel anarchist</u></span></b>]]</sup>[[Image:Black_sun.jpg|35px]] 01:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Somebody really needs to make it clear...


:*it might be the artillery from that halo wars pic i submitted see below --[[User:Swearingmonk|Swearingmonk]] 19:06, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
If we assume that there were 35 Spartans that survived augementations, 35-4(Kurt, Sam, Shiela, and Randall)=31-1(Cassandra)=30-3(Grey Team)=27-3(supposedly Red Team)=24. Halo Wars states that 25 of 28 surviving spartans fight at reach. therefore, the only logical explanation is that we must go off of the original number of 33 survived agumentation and assume red team was at reach, giving us 25 fighting spartans.  (How is this more logical then assuming 36 survived augmentations?)


:*those r scorpions -[[Image:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''[[Image:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><span style="color: olive"><u>the rebel anarchist</u></span></b>]]</sup>[[Image:Black_sun.jpg|35px]] 01:48, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
==Serina==


:*no they r not scorpians the barrels r to big look at the pic next to the duel wielding elite--[[User:Swearingmonk|Swearingmonk]] 12:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Can we try and sort this out so it's spelt right? (Serina is the right spelling, I checked the manual)
::*o yeah they only have 1 track on each side. -[[Image:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''[[Image:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><span style="color: olive"><u>the rebel anarchist</u></span></b>]]</sup>[[Image:Black_sun.jpg|35px]] 20:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


looks like that SCORPION just got pwn3d. the turrets come off, and the tread covers are gone too. that's what makes it look different. but i agree, there likely will be other vehicles in the game. like the Stealth Tank that got cut from Halo 1. - [[user:specops306]]
== Halo Wars Timeline ==


I'm just saying this right now because you mentioned the stealth tank, don't you think it would've been cool if it wasn't cut?--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 17:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Can we create a new page with all the events of Halo Wars Timeline listed? I tried to create one, but it was deleted. I can recreate the page, but I want to make sure that I'm not violating the rules, and that the mods won't delete it. --[[User talk:Ant80|Ant80]] 22:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


Oh yeah! giving the humans a stealth tank would rock! It would have to be balanced against the Scorpion, but it would still rock! [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|30px]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font> <sup>[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]</sub> 20:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
== "Official" Canon ==


I see a Scorpian tank NO DOUBT. it does have the quad treads(if you look a bit into the eplosiong, you can see the edge of the front pair of treads) and the top is obviously an exploded Scorpian turret. The reason you think it looks different is becuase its at a wierd angle and explosions cover the majority of the tank. [[User:24.16.45.200|24.16.45.200]] 01:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Look, whoever it is who's putting things about "official" canon, please stop. Just because this game isn't made by Bungie does not mean that it is completely non-canon. Rather, past statements it contradicts should be ''Previous'' Canon. I'll try and address some of the supposed "violations".  


== Albatross, new? ==
Honestly, most of these can be dispelled by a little research and effort. I'm renmoving these ones. it just seems more like someone with a vendetta against anything that isn't bungie made, than an actual attempt to wikify knowledge.


How come the drop ship that appear in the trailer (possibly an albatross) does not appear or its mentioned in any other halo game and book?.
''Update: have moved "violation" addressing to blog''
The only thing i can think of is that it was replaced by other newer version,(the ship that appears in the map Relic from Halo 2).


looks like it {{unsigned|Anonymous}}
--<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 03:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


Well, having a large cargo dropship is pretty much a necessity for spacecraft wishing to land on a planet and for large scale movement like in a war, so it could be that it is only used on large scale invasions and the like, not for specialist teams of SPARTANS. At any rate the albatross could be used like a mobile building as was speculated at the very bottom of the article to spawn troops like a Galleon in Age of Empires 3.
:A good call. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 03:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


I agree with you guys.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 17:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Well, Specops, you have a bit of a problem. Someone pretty much re-added the whole thing. <span style="color:#666666">'''Smoke''' <sup>[[User:Smoke.|My page]]</sup><sub>[[User talk:Smoke.|My talk]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Editcount/Smoke.|My Editcount]]</sup></span> 15:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


Well, even by modern standards the Pelican can't carry very many marines, so there'd have to be larger dropships in the game. [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|30px]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font> <sup>[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]</sub> 20:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
::Well seeing as he's gonna say all that and I agree with all his points I'm gonna say this.


== Why are the Elites so bulky?!? ==
::"The only major flaw in the cutscenes that doesn’t coincide with the official canon but isn’t a major timeline flaw is the fact that the Spartans have magnetic strips in their armor that hold their weapons. That feature wasn’t introduced until after the Mark VI Armor."


Why are the Elites so big and bulky like?
::They used the mark VI armor in halo 2 as well and we didn't see the magnetic strip there either and he didn't get new armor in between halo 2 and 3 and did say they didn't have it on the earlier versions of the armor.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 03:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:Spartan 1 1 7|Spartan 1 1 7]] 22:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


They are fat because in the early days of the war the elites didn't use the Jenny Craig or the Atkins diet plans, so the just ate what they want or who they want. They also didn't exercise as much; they were pretty much a bunch a couch potatoes and just watched the holograms all day. [[user:sogy|sogy]]
::I've removed that section altogether, and am considering protecting the page to prevent its re-addition. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 01:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


Actually, it looks like it's the armor that's bulky. Perhaps it's tailored for the cold environment of whatever world that is. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 00:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
::Listen, it is not a vendetta against Ensemble, but i love these books and video games and any fault should be addressed. and if you have a problem with what someone is writing, confront them first about it instead of saying things like they have problems with things that they don't. be a man... [[User talk:Psycho60|Psycho60]] 01:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:The armor has always been described as bulky, it doesn't look that different to me. -[[User:ED|ED]] 23:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


No, if you look closely it does seem like thier armor is more bulky but it might but it might be for the reason that dragonclaws said that they might be that way becuase of the cold enviroment that they are fighting in and the marines also had something to cover their mouths ans their armor also seemed a little bigger. Or it might be they way their armor were made at that time make a guess.<br />[[User:Radzon|Radzon]] 20:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I did address it with you. I sent you a board message that apparently got ignored. I pointed you to an article where it would be more appropriate. I also tried to condense and reformat it, removing the "violations" that are not really violations at all. That was deleted, and the previous version was re-added. I never said you ''had'' a vendetta, only that it was how it ''looked''. And as for "being a man"? I'm twenty in June for heavens sake, and ''I'm'' the one being lectured to? --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 02:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


but the cold enviroment woulnt make sense becuase in halo:CE assualt on the control room, and two betrales there in cold weather so why wouldnt they have bulky armor? [[User:Mendoza|Mendoza]]
:::It relates to the game, therefore it should remain on the page. Try and discuss which parts that you feel aren't backed by the books or games and we'll see which ones should remain here and which ones i'll put everywhere else. yes, you are being lectured to because it is not hard to figure out who was writing what, that's how i found you. so why wouldn't you talk it over rather than just butcher it? they are violations, cross check them with all of the other material. i haven't made one thing that i wrote up.


@ Mendoza
::::I did address them. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 08:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
The reason they didnt have the bulky armor in the Artic parts of Halo was becuase it was a very short period of time...i hardley think the Proud Elites would bother replacing ALL of their armor just for one section of a large battle area...in Halo Wars...that area seen in the X06 Trailer was obviously much larger and colder...IE the Elites have to use that armor becuase they are fighing on a single terrain for an extended period. in the demo...you cant really see the Elite armor well...so my guess is that its normal again in the more desert terrain. [[User:24.16.45.200|24.16.45.200]] 01:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Shouldn't any actual inconsistancies and discrepancies go on the 'List of Inconsistances in Halo' page anyway? *would link the actual page but hasn't figured out how to do that yet* [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 17:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Not in a freaking blog, 1on1 personally. tell ME which parts you have a problem with so i can better determine how to edit them
while there are some cannon flaws like the spartan lasers being in the game the halo universe is changeble such as in the fall of reach all but 6 or 7 spartans are at reach 2 KIA and one WIA and grey teams some where else but then thats proven wrong since kurt and randall disapeared and some one else got killed by hunters now with red teams MIA even less but there was a second batch of spartans they weren't trained by mendez and where the funding came from is unknown though--[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 16:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


The reason the elite armor is different is because the trailer was mot made by bungie, and the people who did make it made the elites way out of proportion they are like ten feet tall in the trailer.
== Faulty Link ==


== SparrowHawk!!!! ==
Some where in this article is a faulty link to "reactor" that goes to a nonexistant page instead of the real one. I would fix this but I can't find the link and I don't know how.[[User talk:Potatom|Potatom]] 16:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


Yes! the transmission has fully loaded, revealing...what? the [[UNSC Sparrow Hawk]]. Could someone add it? or i'll try myself, but it might be a bit...messy. (EDIT) Oops, someone already did it...sorry for that. -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 19:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
==Cleanup==
The "Criticism" section is in desperate need of rewriting, citing and sourcing (or outright deletion). Especially since many of the claims are utterly laughable. Lets take the Arbiter bit as an example. Here is the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWLLh8Sr6mM&feature=related cutscene in Halo 2] where the article claims "...in Halo 2, when the Arbiter armour is revealed, the Prophets say that it is the very armour that each Arbiter wore." No such line of dialogue exists, and as such (and I just provided the link as proof) it should be removed as fanon/vandalism.


==Too Many Pictures==
Factor into this the implausibility of the Arbiter's armor surviving in usable form over centuries and the fact that not all [[Sangheili|Elites]] are the same size (anywhere from 8-11 feet in height, if I'm not mistaken) and it just becomes preposterous. Considering the amount of battle damage that the suit would take over this long period of time (and the power of weapons involved, such as energy swords, plasma weapons and grenades), the Arbiter's armor would be about as good as tinfoil by the time of Halo 2 if was in fact handed down to each one in succession. And since being appointed the Arbiter is clearly the equivalent of a prolonged death sentence at the hands of the enemy (as shown in the cutscene linked in my first paragraph), it is highly unlikely that all their corpses could be recovered and for the armor to be in a perfectly usable condition by the next appointee (imagine if one was involved in a space battle and his ship was destroyed? Where would they be?).


So I made them Choose options for a full list look below:
As far as SPARTANS, I'm not as good at that subject, so I won't question the information presented (for the moment). However, it still needs sourcing and citations for the claims presented. I would have cleaned this up myself, but due to the article being locked I'm hoping an admin would be willing to do this. Have a nice day, [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 18:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


<GALLERY>
The fact that elites are different sizes is irrelevant. Armor can be shaped to match body shape (Like suits of armor in the medieval times, smiths could change the shape of that armor to match a single person). But the survival of the suit over time is unlikely, so you do have a good point.
Image:HW_1280x1024_5.jpg|Battle that takes place in ''Halo Wars''.
while it is odd that the special ops elites directly say the armor isn't as new as theirs you do have a point about the damage--[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 16:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Image:HW_1280x1024_2.jpg|Battle on a ridge
Image:Ilmhalowarstheme1MediaBlade.jpg|Concept art for the [[United Nations Space Command]] forces.
Image:Marines_HALO_wars.jpg|Shot of Marines from the Halo Wars Trailer
Image:Halo-wars leak.jpg|Image of Halo Wars
Image:Elite_and_marine.jpg|An Elite and Marine from the trailer
Image:HaloWars2.jpg|A Covenant [[Scarab]].
Image:HW_1920x1200_6.jpg|UNSC [[Shortsword|Shortswords]]
Image:Halowars_elites.jpg|The Elites as depicted in ''Halo Wars''.
Image:Halowars_concept.jpg|A piece of concept art
Image:Ilmhalowarstheme1SystemBlade.jpg|Concept art for the [[Elite]].


</GALLERY>
This could be because they use the same 'model' of armor for each Arbiter.  This could lead to a new set of armor for each, yet it still being 'not as new' as the fully updated Elite special ops armor.


== Cobra? ==
==Rebels==
Someone should try to get a shot of the rebel base. It would make for a good illustration for the rebel articles. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 08:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


Someone keeps adding stuff about a "Cobra." Is there any sources cited for it? --[[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 07:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
==Cleanup of Contradictions==


Right, someone added the Cobra to the page again. I'm deleting it. If whoever put it there is reading this, '''PLEASE DO NOT PUT IT BACK!!!!!''' the Cobra was a non-canon vehicle from an unauthorised game concept, and IS NOT CANON!!! [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 05:11, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I am taking out the following bit:


Sorry to say this, but there is going to bee a vehicles called the Cobra in Halo Wars, as of March. It was featured in the Gamepro magazine, and is currently a missile artillery unit.
"While accepted by Microsoft, the owners of the Halo IP, as official canon, Halo Wars contradicts previously established canon in a number of ways, ranging from minor errors to major flaws. Some of these may simply be retcons of previous statements, or mistakes by the developers."
[[User:Quirel|Quirel]] 06:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


== Scarab Gun ==
The reason for this is that only one example is given as to these supposed canon mess ups, so there isn't enough evidence or sources to claim that there are problems ranging from "minor errors or major flaws". As for the shields, it was probably done for gameplay issues (as stated in two paragraphs down). Furthermore, I am taking the liberty of changing the section title to "Continuity", as proper criticism would deal with critiquing by reviewers, not continuity errors/minor goofs.
What the hell i think they mean the scarab cannon


== HALO: TFOR & HALO WARS ==
Also, I am taking out the following passage:


HALO: The Fall Of Reach and Halo Wars are the same thing except ones a bokk and the other is the game. Am I right? [[User:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Gray>The Se7ens</font>]] [[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Gray>Haunt Me</font>]]
"Given the traditionally high popularity of the Spartans within the Halo universe, it is understandable that the new Spartan members of the Halo Wars cast have come under extensive scrutiny, considerably more so than other facets of the game. The Spartans designated as “Red Team" provide the biggest problem when it comes to breaks with previous canon. Their flaws are both in the in-game Spartans, the cut scene Spartans, and the Spartan timeline."


:Nope. The Master Chief never fights Covenant on an ice planet like that. Many people have speculated that it's on Harvest. [[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|Guesty-Persony-Thingy]] Early 90's to March 31, 2007. RIP. 19:29, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
First, the passage gives no sources, either in novels, games or other affiliated merchandise. Secondly, it gives no examples to prove its point as to what the offending content is (what are these breaks in canon? What are the differences between the in-game, cutscene and timeline Spartans that it speaks of? If there is a consistency error, does Halo Wars officially retcon previous material as it is the more recent source?). I think until someone produces a sourced, detailed and well written section on this controversy that it should have no place in the article. [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 19:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


::But isn't halo wars when they first meet the "Covenant"
==droneless??==
[[User:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Gray>The Se7ens</font>]] [[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Gray>Haunt Me</font>]]
why are there no drones?[[Special:Contributions/204.186.3.52|204.186.3.52]] 02:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


wrong Harvest was but Harvest was not a Ice Planet how could plants grow there furthermore there was no ground fighting on Harvest and the Spartns didnt have Mjornir by that time
May well be before the drones were forced into the Covenant --[[User talk:Jaguartalon|Jaguartalon]] 02:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


:How can plants grow in the North Pole? but we have tropical rainforests at the equator! we've only seena portion of the planet, and we don't even know its Harvest. besides, the UNSC retook the planet under [[Admiral Cole]] later, by which time the Spartans would be fully kitted out with MJOLNIR. -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 06:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
It is well established in the canon that Drones were not used as combat units until the Battle of Earth. We also know they have been a part of the Covenant since at least 2525, five years before Halo Wars, as they are featured in the book "Contact: Harvest". It is most likely simply a game design decision.[[User talk:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 02:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


:Hmm... I knew about the Mjolnir but the first time they met the covenant and what not confused me. Thanx for clearing that up =]. WE STILL GET TO PLAY AS CHIEF RIGHT?!??![[User:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Gray>The Se7ens</font>]] [[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Gray>Haunt Me</font>]]
==age of myhtology==
the games are very similiar aom has a cyclops that throughs stuff so does halowars
aom has godpowers from above one of which is frost which freezes stuff halowars has the spiritfre who as wepons that it fires from above one of wich freezes things both were made by ensemble studios could we make a refrence


== Two Important Things ==
That's because the games are developed by the same people, Ensemble Studios. The name Cyclops is a homage to their other game, and the gameplay mechanics are just things they have done before.[[User talk:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 02:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


#1 Why do you have a picture of the Chiefs helmet from Starry Night?? That is for Halo 3, not Halo Wars.


#2 Who confirmed that the Omega SPARTANS could not be SPARTAN-III (Or -IV)? We don't know when the cinematic takes place, we just know that part of the game will take place during the first Covenant encounter -- But all of it will take place before Halo 1.


They are probably SPARTAN-IV in MJOLNIR Mk IV armor. Ackerson got the DNA (Halsey found his files in FoR) in order to make adult clones of the SPARTAN-II mass produced for SPARTAN-III, but that was shot down. When he went absent for those 15 or so years prior to 2540, I believe he acted on his initial desires to make SPARTAN clones.
== Socket bases suck ==


This would explain Maria "starting a family" (coverup for "being a template for clones") and Chiron TL34 "Spartan Clone Training Complex" that was on a Halo in Halo 1 MP.
The socket base thing means a serious reduction in tactiacal thought required (placement of buildings, particularly defences) and its just generaly a minimal-thinking game. which does NOT fit with being an RTS for such a beloved universe. Gunnery Sergeant [[User talk:Maiar|Maiar]] 10:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


== Arbiter? ==
Oh shut it - anonymous


Is it just me, or were the elites wearing semi-Arbiter armor? oh, and do you think there will be heros?--[[User:NOTreal|NOTreal]] 15:46, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
:You'd rather Ensemble dedicated half of the gameplay to just placing a base? Most of the people who play this are going to have the attention spans of chimpanzees, and would want to get right into the fight. They don't have time or patience that traditional RTS players have, and the game needs to take that into account. Besides that, the controller doesn't really give the player much in the way of options.


well the UNSC will no doubt have a spartan (maybe the chief) and the covenant will probably have an arbiter
:I agree that it reduces tactical options, but it was a conscious decision by Ensemble to focus more on action than micro-managing. They could have enhanced it somewhat with more structures with specialised functions - decide which tech tree you ''had'' to follow, and make the player stick with it, rather than select leaders pre-game. Once you build, say, an "ONI Armoury", you had a set of upgrades that you can use, but can't build other types. And etc. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 10:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:Garyclementspunji|Garyclementspunji]] 23:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


== Sources not showing ==
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad design.  A large portion of the people I've talked to appreciate not having to spend so much energy managing economy or building locations, particularly with the limited controls of a console.  Independent of personal opinions, it's irrelevant to the Wiki, unless in a section on critical review, which should be from cited sources.


I don't know if it's just my computer, but the sources at the bottom aren't showing up. -- [[Image:Slizer.png|30px]] [[User:AlphaPrime|<b>Captain Obvious</b>]]<sup>[[User Talk:AlphaPrime|<i>"Thank you, Captain Obvious!"</i>]]</sup> [[Image:SlizerGalaxy.png|30px]] 03:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
== News Story ==


Yup, no sources. [[User:The evil O,malley|The Evil O&#39;malley]] 04:03, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Is the news about the leaked campaign expansion true or is it just an April Fools Day thing?[[User talk:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 20:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


I removed some of the images at the bottom and that seemed to fix it. There were also several <nowiki><option></nowiki> and <nowiki><choose></nowiki> tags that didn't seem to do anything, so I removed those too. -- [[Image:Slizer.png|30px]] [[User:AlphaPrime|<b>Captain Obvious</b>]]<sup>[[User Talk:AlphaPrime|<i>"Thank you, Captain Obvious!"</i>]]</sup> [[Image:SlizerGalaxy.png|30px]] 04:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
== Previous canon contradiction ==


== Confused!! ==
I think the plentiful things in which Halo Wars contradicts previous canon should be addressed somewhere in the page. Some of which include:


Wait? I don't get. Whats a RTS (I know it stands for Real-Time-Shooter.) But hows the gameplay? Were not playing as the chief. Were controlling the Marines and the Pillar Of Autumn? Please. INTEL!--'''[[user:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MYH.Q.</font>]]''' [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MY</font><font color="#78866B">ORDERS</font>]]'''</sup> ·  <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=#78866B>MY</font><font color=black>BAT</font><font color=#6B8E23>TL</font><font color=black>ES</font>]]'''</sub> 14:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Humans in general (Forge as an example, defeating the ''freaking Arbiter'' in hand-to-hand combat) being exxageratedly overpowered in combat against elites.  
In the novels, the Spartans were described as being about on par with elites in combat, but not like in the game(edit: pluralize), where they just slaughter them with almost comical ease.


RTS is Real Time Strategy. It will be like Command & Conquer not Star Wars Battlefront. The game takes place in 2525-2531 on the planet Harvest.
Another thing about the spartans is, why even were there so many of them on Arcadia? Red team i understand, but team omega is a little much. I mean, normally spartans were deployed only in small teams. Also, how was Arcadia so important to defend, as it was just a lowly populated vacation resort. There were a plenty of other colonies being attacked at the time.


I'm not sure but it is possible that it will be like Star Wars Battlefront 1 & 2(Description of Star Wars Battlefront:You have an army and you control one soldier at a time.You can play in 3rd or 1st person.You are not in formations like in Age of Empires.).That way would be awesome!My friends will S**T THE F*** U* talking about Age of Mythology and all that other real time B*** S***.
Originally it was stated that elites weren't even deployed in battle against humans before the battle of Reach. At least not in as large numbers as in HW. However, this is probably just because of the gameplay. As is the issue with spartans having shields.


[[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] [[Image:kpisalasergod2.gif|35px]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>]</sup>
In the end, Anders and much of the other staff go to cryo pods with clothes on. However, it was stated earlier (in The fall of Reach) that normal humans couldn't go to cryo with clothes on, as it would've caused immense pain and freeze burns. Of course, they couldn't have shown Anders naked in a T-rated game, but they could've simply made the scene different and simply left the cryo pod part out.  


I have battlefront one and two. There O.K. they could have been much better. But Halo style battle front? Sounds F***ING awesome. Since it is next century gaming. It'll be more real, more intense and even more awesome. Cant wait. But is that really it?--'''[[user:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MY Place!</font>]]''' [[Image:Halo kicks ass.gif|29px]]· <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>Feed The</font><font color="#78866B"> MailBox</font>]]'''</sup>·<sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=#78866B>I did that!]]</font>'''</sub>'''[[UoH|<font color=Black> .I Have]][[Image:Rebel-01-june.gif|26px]][[|<font color=Black>Two Sides]]''' 18:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
There are some more, but i don't have time to write right now. Anyways, anyone else think some of these things should be mentioned on the page?


Have you played the Age of Empires series? Or the Command and Conquer series? ''That'' is likely what it's going to be. the Battlefront-style-Halo would be cool, but controlling hundreds of marines or Grunts and sending them out to kill each other... [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|30px]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font> <sup>[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]</sub> 22:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)


--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 15:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


Rts doesnt stand for real time shooter, it stands for real time strategy.... You control a big army, manage resources, build buildings etc. Its gonna be good. [[User:86.42.81.113|86.42.81.113]] 18:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
*Omega team, Anders was down there and she was important, as for them actualy being there that could have just been a wonderfull coincidence.
*Forge vs Arbiter, the only hand-to-hand thing he did was tackling the arbiter after he lost his rifle. now we can assume that a frontline veteren like himselfe would be pretty strong and muscle has a lot of mass plus his body-armour so he just threw all of that as hard as he could, fairly low on the arb's body and caught him of balence as he did all this rather suddenly. after that he shot him in the hand to make him let go of his sword. The arbiter incapacitated him in one punch to the gut, Forge then stabbed him in the face with his combat knife (first time we have seen it used i think) and then in the chest with the sword.
*Plentifull elites: were half Honour guards (an arbiter and a hierarch were present) and half field officers. this was a high prority mission for them so they put down their best.
*Spartan-elite: spartans are said to be about even with major domo elites physicaly but we have seen spartans to be faster, smarter and more agile and inventive. also i think that it may be equal without the MJOLNIR which enhances them further. spartans have always kicked total ass, even the weaker SPARTAN-III units must have been at least equal to the elites or they never would have done the kind of things they did.
*cryo clothes: yeah thats a litle unnecacery. they could have simply not show anyone naked...at least front on. maybe they could have not gone to anders pod untill it had fogged to all but her face which was also soon covered. and mabe the crews uniforms were cryo-tolereant which would not surprise me.


Awe cool. Now I understand. Thanx. Hmm gonna be cool(if done right.)--'''[[user:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MY Place!</font>]]''' [[Image:Halo kicks ass.gif|29px]]· <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>Feed The</font><font color="#78866B"> MailBox</font>]]'''</sup>·<sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=#78866B>I did that!]]</font>'''</sub>'''[[UoH|<font color=Black> .I Have]][[Image:Rebel-01-june.gif|26px]][[|<font color=Black>Two Sides]]''' 22:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
All of the above bullets by Gunnery Sergeant [[User talk:Maiar|Maiar]] 23:00, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
RTS stands 4 real time stratigy[[User:Alphacheiftain101|Alphacheiftain101]] 10:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


== 7/7/07 ==
== MA5 what? ==


I posted same topic on the Halo 3 dusscusion page. Because as you might know Bungie loves the number 7 since they have put it in in so many parts of the game. Like, 7 Halos, John-11'''7''', and Arbiter is seven letters long. Since the date '''7/7/07''' is coming maybe Bunjie will do something speacial like give us some super hot info. What you think???--'''[[user:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MYH.Q.</font>]]''' [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MY</font><font color="#78866B">ORDERS</font>]]'''</sup> ·  <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=#78866B>MY</font><font color=black>BAT</font><font color=#6B8E23>TL</font><font color=black>ES</font>]]'''</sub> 19:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
I think its the MA5C assalt rifle used in halo wars because it behaves and (i think) even looks like it. this would support something i suggested on the MA5 page; the C is not a new model but a different varient for generalised use. the B was a close-quaters weapon issued to the Pillar of Autumn's armouries because of its planned mission (im actualy a bit fuzzy on what that was but i know it would have been mostly ship-bourd) which would alos accaunt for the rarity of long-range weapons compared to the other 2 games which were along side regular marines issued with the standard sortie.


== Cover Box PIC ==
Gunnery sergeant [[User talk:Maiar|Maiar]] 23:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


When are we gonna get the Cover Box pic.? Im eager =P--'''[[user:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MYH.Q.</font>]]''' [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=Black>MY</font><font color="#78866B">ORDERS</font>]]'''</sup> ·  <sub>'''[[Special:Contributions/Spartan 1 1 7|<font color=#78866B>MY</font><font color=black>BAT</font><font color=#6B8E23>TL</font><font color=black>ES</font>]]'''</sub> 22:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:That weapon fires far faster than the MA5C. It's the MA5B - just much shinier, apparently. <div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div> 23:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
But it still has the sound from the MA5C, which is a shame as I don't care for guns that sounds like popcorns popping. [[User talk:Baryon15|Baryon15]] 18:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


== "5 Fingers Instead of 4" ==
== Sources Cleanup ==


Could someone remove this because after watching the video a number of times the Elite in question does not have five fingers. It has the usual four. I seriously doubt the creators of the video would make such an obvious anatomical mistake with a well known enemy type within the Halo universe.
This article has tons of messy references. Could someone clean it up?- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 20:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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Removed [[User:A Monument to All Your Sins|A Monument to All Your Sins]] 21:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
== UNSC Leviathan? ==


== Gameplay? ==
Under the cut content section, someone listed cut content with pictures from the concept art thread. However, the UNSC Leviathan is listed as cut content. Where is this based off of? I never heard/saw this as being cut from Halo Wars.--[[Special:Contributions/67.171.46.168|67.171.46.168]] 00:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Are you gonna control a single soldier and command the others with something like a Cross-Comm in GRAW, or are you gonna control everything at once?I'm confused.=([[User:Spartytime|<b><font color="olive">Spartyti</font><font color="black">m</font><font color="olive">e]]</font></b><sup>[[User Talk: Spartytime|<b><font color="black">Talk]]</font></b></sup> 14:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:Is there any mention of said ship in Halo Wars? [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 01:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
:No, just the Sipirt of Fire, ships at Arcadia: The Belfast, The Texas, The Armstrong, The Pillar of Autumn, and the unnamed Covenant ships (cruisers/destryoers). And even so, they only showed the Spirit of Fire and that Covenant destroyer it ran into.--[[Special:Contributions/67.171.46.168|67.171.46.168]] 18:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


you are gonna be controling everthing on your side like marines,tanks and also managing resources like any other RTS, so ya you are gonna control everything at once. [[User:Mendoza|Mendoza]] 7:10, 15 july
== Spartan Miscount Problem ==


But will you control a single soldier like in Halo and Halo 2 and then command everything else? The basic question is, if I wanna shoot a 6 round burst to a wall, will a press a trigger? Or will it be like Full Spectrum Warrior?=([[User:Spartytime|<b><font color="olive">Spartyti</font><font color="black">m</font><font color="olive">e]]</font></b><sup>[[User Talk: Spartytime|<b><font color="black">Talk]]</font></b></sup> 13:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Isn't the answer to this whole 25 out of 28 spartans at reach thing kinda simple. The spirit of fire was considered lost with all hands, meaning the spartans were considered dead (or technically missing) by the unsc. meaning 25 out of the 28 "living" spartans were at reach. --[[Special:Contributions/67.171.46.168|67.171.46.168]] 19:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


no go play somthing like AOE3 or C&C 3 it'll be something like that
:The real problem is that there can't have been 28 living at that time either way. 33 surviving augmentation minus Sam, Kurt, Sheila, Maria, Cassandra and two other casualties mentioned in Fall of Reach equals 26, not 28. And that's ignoring the unconfirmed-but-probable losses of Randall and [[Unidentified Spartan-II|Unnamed Spartan (Harvest)]]. And later in FoR, five ''more'' Spartans join the 25. --[[User talk:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 17:53, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


== The Flood!?!?!? ==
== Spartan Superiotiy ==


THE FLOOD!?!?!?!? Isn't that impossible!?!? --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|30px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 17:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I editted Spartans and made the change ".... is arguably Superior to all infantry units both UNSC and Convenant." i made this beacuse of their superior speed,range,health and upgrades feel free to correct me and also comment.


The Flood won't be there, they weren't discovered by humans till 2552.[[User:Spartytime|<b><font color="olive">Spartyti</font><font color="black">m</font><font color="olive">e]]</font></b><sup>[[User Talk: Spartytime|<b><font color="black">Talk]]</font></b></sup> 13:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
==Listed Twice==
On this page it lists Engineers twuce one as infantry, and one as aircraft.[[User talk:Snore|Snore]] 15:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:Fixed.[[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 15:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


Really? What about an ONI coverup? Just because Halo was the first place where the Flood's existence was documented, doesnt mean it was our first encounter. [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 03:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
When spartans are upgraded with laser


The flood were probally all contained on the Halo rings or in the research facilities at that time period. So I doubt that they will be playable or show up[[User:Spec-Opp Spartan|Spec-Opp Spartan]] 03:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
DOes their melee damage and also range damage increase
or just range [[User talk:Soviet Tez|Soviet Tez]] 08:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


We don't know for certain that the entire game will take place on Harvest. There could be campaigns set after humanity's first encounter with the Flood.[[User:Demonic Knight|Demonic Knight]] 22:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
==Vandal==
This page has been vandalized by some person he deleted a bunch of stuff on the article. And he wrote it over with everything wrong.[[User talk:Snore|Snore]] 23:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:We need a admin.--[[User talk:JacktheBlack|Jack Black]] 23:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I already contacted one.[[User talk:Snore|Snore]] 23:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


== Gameplay vid ==
::The weird thing is, someone else, somewhere else claims it's a Command and Conquer rip-off.--[[User:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>Were</u>'''''</font>]][[User talk:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>fan</u>g'''''</font>]] 23:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I found a video with Halo wars gameplay in it, go here: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/677574/Halo_Wars_and_other_Microsoft_Games.html#readmore.
:::CnC did everything in RTS its like Doom and FPS and Metal Gear and stealth games. Besides its Sci-Fi its been down already, read Starships Troopers novel its from the 50's and it has zerging mechs and super soldiers and cyborg dogs.--[[User talk:JacktheBlack|Jack Black]] 23:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::::All of which are inherent requirements of sci fi. It's really the same logic that says all JRPGs are Final Fantasy rip-offs. There's really no such thing as a modern, original game because just about everything has been done already. If we seriously only bought games with no similarities to older games, we'd still be stuck with nothing but pong and pac-man because most games are just the modification and fixing of older ones. Or did you think that I was saying it was a "rip-off"? If this is the case, I was just pointing out the inconsistancy of selective ignorance.--[[User:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>Were</u>'''''</font>]][[User talk:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>fan</u>g'''''</font>]] 23:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


[[User:Halofan|<font color="Green">ĦДĿΘFáЙ</font>]] [[Image:Legendary.jpg|30px]] [[User talk: Halofan|<font color="Red">"ДňḌ áиŐТЋéṜ ĜŗŲṆṭ</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halofan|bίТËṣ тḤє ḌŲšт"]][[Image:Haloforgheisonvv4.gif|40px]] 14:10, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
The vandal has been given a six month ban. The banhammer's thirst has been quenched with blood, and has been sheathed to await its glorious return. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


most of the stuff on this page is all questions about stuff that most of us have already had awnsers to all that stuff by playin' the game.


== MAC Bombardment Power ==
== storyline weirdness  ==


the Spirit of Fire's MAC fires 6 shots
OK, I'm having trouble desperately trying to fan wank the storyline of this game. It's really awesome but it's like the makers quickly glossed over the game's storyline before deciding to make it Halo 3: The RTS. I don't care if an individual doesn't know everything there is to know about the Haloverse, but a company making a Halo game should. This is why I hate prequels (I'm afraid to play ODST. Already I'm seeing canoncy issues).
heh kinda a lot dont ya think? --[[User:UNSC AI|UNSC AI]] 16:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


:If your talking about how UNSC ship are only a bull to 1 round at a time, I thought it was some sort of special round designed for orbital bombardment--[[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 03:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
My questions are as follows (mind you, I've only gotten past the first mission where you fight the Flood. So if anything is rectified later in the game, just tell me that I'll find out later):


Maybe it has six different MAC's? I mean, it is a converted colony ship - and if it's anything like the Marathon colony ship from the game of the same name (Made out of one of the moons of mars!) then it could easily have ''way'' more! [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 06:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
1) How the hell are they fighting Hunters about twenty years before they were introduced (I've never minded that issue so much with the Elites since that made no damn sense anyway, but the Hunters)? For that matter:


The easiest explanation is the simplest: it's just a storyline error. Fact of the matter is a Mac Round hitting the Earth would have destroyed that entire area, the marine encampment and the Covenant both. I like to just pretend it's Archer Missiles or something akin that the ship is firing.
2) How the hell are they fighting Brutes at this stage of the war!? At least with the Elites and Hunters, such a contradiction is limited only to the books. Halo 2, if I remember, heavily implies that the humans have never seen Brutes before. According to First Strike, aren't the Brutes supposed to be simply temple guards before they were "promoted" in Halo 2 to fully replace the Elites?
[[User:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 19:41, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:The trivia section is coreect though. MAC rounds fire at 40% of the speed of light, which is almost 270,000,000 miles per hour. A six hundred ton object traveling at that speed would be immense; if it collided with a planet it would leave a crater the size of Rhode Island. It could crack a continent in half. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]][[Image:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 09:32, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


Well, the shots could come from a Mass Driver, you know like the one they used on Harvest, but that the producers accidently called it a MAC Gun due to their similarities. It could also be a much smaller version of the MAC, designed to take down heavy vehicles (<cough> Scarabs <cough>).  
3) The Flood. How the hell does humanity finding the Flood this early work out? I was under the impression that the Covenant didn't even know about them.


--[[User:Matt-256|Matt-256]] 13:04, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
4) The Arbiter is (as far as I know) on the creepy Brute/Flood planet when the Prophet orders him to bring Anders "here" to the Apex facility. In the half hour or whatever between the UNSC destroying the Scarab and the Arbiter capturing her, he Slipspaces over to Arcadia (without being detected by the Spirit of Fire or planetary defenses), lands on the planet while parking his spaceship directly over a UNSC base swarming with Marines and Spartans, and brings Anders up in that gravity beam that connects to a standard Halo 1 dropship (only Covenant starships and Phantoms have been shown to have this). Geez, and I thought Master Chief was good. What the heck was going on there? Was this like a special stealth ship that he had that was also capable of Slipspace travel or something? How did nobody detect this thing, how did he get there so fast, and why does a regular dropship have that gravity transport beam?


That's assuming that all MAC's fire the same size projectile, too. A smaller projectile has less kinetic force, and would do less damage. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 00:44, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
5) Help me understand the deal with Harvest. This takes place after what this site calls the Third Battle of Harvest, which either started 5 years after the Second Battle of Harvest (which was Cole's giant fleet) or was a 5 year long battle (even though the game says the latter, I believe the former). Harvest was only partially glassed during the First Battle of Harvest (like Reach). The Third Battle involved major space battles between the Spirit of Fire (and other UNSC ships, I imagine, since UNSC ships lose in even battles against Covenant ships unless Captain Keyes is in command) and Covenant forces. By the time the first level starts, humans have pretty much won the battle and retook Harvest (possibly even destroying all the enemy's ships), but are still tracking down the Covenant ground forces near what is a major Forerunner installation. Am I anywhere near close?[[User talk:Son of God-Enel|Son of God-Enel]] 05:38, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


I think it would be safe to say that different rounds are avialable, think of it this way weapons can fire a wide variety or rounds, grenade, tracer, armor piercing, rubber, etc. In the military Artillery is key *which makes me wonder why we dont see any in the halo series* so it would be smart to have an orbiting ship about to do such a thing. That way the infantry gets fire support without the risk of the artillery being attacked *at least not from the ground*[[User:Hollywood101x|Hollywood]] 23:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
:I see you're new, but this is not a forum. I've sent you a lengthy message explaining the story, "inconsistencies", etc. Check your user board. I hope it helps. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 22:55, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


== Serina ==
== The UNSC lost it's "coolness" ==


Has anyone else played Age of Mythology? Doesn't Serina's voice sound like the woman who voiced Athena? '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 03:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone think that the UNSC in Halo Wars has to many lasers? I mean look at the hawk, Cobra and Gremlin! they all shoot lasers, aren't the Covenant supppose to have plasma weapon, forerunners have LASERS and the UNSC to have BULLETS? I can't beleive Ensemble scrapped units like the cougar and the fox just to place these crappy excuses for vehicles in their game. The UNSC is great it's one of the best Sci-Fi governments ever invented but Halo Wars and all these Graphic novels are just killing the franchise why can't we have the same stories but in live action shorts or a short CG mini series done like the cutscens in Halo?


== Battlefields ==
:Since when do laser-firing weapons drop brass casings? <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 00:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)


Do we really need this? We know nothing about the final game's map number or types. The concept art was for gameplay and probably campaign, not multiplay, and the announcement movie was prerendered. Any objections to me deleting it? '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 19:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
== Main Character ==


== ...crap... ==
Who's the main character? Is it John Forge?--[[Special:Contributions/99.237.222.73|99.237.222.73]] 23:02, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
[[Image:HaloWarsTanks.jpg|300px]]
Its gonna have those shitty team colors isn't it!!--'''[[User:The evil O,malley|<font color="Tan">Bugger</font>]]| <sup>[[User talk:The evil O,malley|<font color="Blue">Bug Me</font>]]</sup><sub>| [[Special:Contributions/The evil O,malley|<font color="Purple">''Bugged''</font>]]
</sub>''' 00:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


Just make the UNSC green, and the Covenant purple, when you play multiplayer, depending on which you play as. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 22:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
There's several. Forge, Profressor Anders, Captain Cutter, and the Arbiter.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 09:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


It won't work, trust me. I have alot of RTS games, it never works.--'''[[User:The evil O,malley|<font color="Tan">Bugger</font>]]| <sup>[[User talk:The evil O,malley|<font color="Blue">Bug Me</font>]]</sup><sub>| [[Special:Contributions/The evil O,malley|<font color="Purple">''Bugged''</font>]]
== ATP2555 II ==
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Perhaps. But I have a few too, and from what I've seen there shouldn't be any reason if can't. Wonder what happens to the colours in online co-op? '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 04:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Maybe you should check the reason I reverted your edit the LAST time. Hint: It had nothing to do the infantry units. It's up to you to figure out the rest - and fix it before you add it. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 04:10, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 
==A Few Things==
1. probable game types and factions
 
a) UNSC  UNSC campagn
 
b) covenant  covenant campagn
 
c) rebels? rebel campagn
 
d) skirmish
 
e) conquest? (like galactic conquest from star wars battlefront)
 
 
2. questions
 
a) would you be able to play as the rebels from the fall of reach
 
b) will there be covenant aircrafts
 
c) will there be things better then the pelican, shortsword, sparrowhawk or sky hawk
 
d) will there be an MCV or what
 
e) will the elephant be useable
 
f) will the elephat be the MCV
--[[User:Garyclementspunji|Garyclementspunji]] 00:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 
 
Firstly, all of 1 is likely except a rebel campaign is likely. To be honest, I wouldn't want to play as a rebel.
 
Secondly, I'll try to answer the questions in 2:
 
A) No. Just...no.
 
B) Yes, the Banshee, and probably a few of the [[Spirit|Drop]][[Phantom|ship]]. Maybe [[Seraphs]] as bombers.
 
C) Maybe.
 
D) ?
 
E) Was the Elephant even around then?
 
F) See above.
 
Yours: '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 18:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== Green Plasma ==
It seems like i'm the only one that has noticed this. But in the demo video all the plasma the covenant shoot is green. Why is this? Is it cuz its only a demo? or am i seeing things?'''[[user:SpartanBIH|<font color=black>S</font><font color=maroon>pa</font><font
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I saw green plasma it could possible they are using plasma pistols-[[User:Spec-Opp Spartan|Spec-Opp Spartan]] 02:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)Spec-Opps Spartan
 
== Ranged Covenaut ==
 
On the page it says there is a ranged type of Covenaut in a sceenshot. Where is that sceenshot? Where was it confirmed?[[User:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 19:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 
Trooper, if you look at the screenshot with the firing scarab, you can see Ranged Elites flying in from above the Covenant ranks. ><~[[User:Lovemuffin|Lovemuffin]]~><
 
== Friendly fire ==
 
Does anyone else see a Warthog running directly over a Marine at about 6:49 in the E3 '07 video, and he just stays standing? I hope that's just a debug code they had on. --[[User:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 06:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 
Friendly fire is something that simple doesn't exist in RTS games, with a few notable exceptions. Otherwise you could whipe out half your army in friendly fire before they get a chance to shoot the enemy. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 16:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Bungie made units smart enough to not constantly teamkill; I don't see why it should be impossible for Ensemble. And people who suck badly enough to wipe out their own army should be playing on Easy anyway. Myth got away with allowing friendly fire, and that was ten years ago.
:Debug codes, on the other hand, are something it would make perfect sense for a demo video to use. --[[User:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 03:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
:Also, my other complaint so far is that the game is shown wrenching control away from the player in the middle of a battle just to give the Scarab a dramatic entrance. Not cool. --[[User:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 06:12, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, 1; that was a video demonstration, and 2; was it really that long? Halo 3 jerks you out of your point of view to show you stuff - you can just skip it. I'm sure Ensemble can do the same in Halo Wars. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I haven't played Halo 3, but I don't recall any scenes in Halo 1 or 2 where a cutscene triggers while the player is under fire; except for the actual endings of levels, where it doesn't matter anyway. --[[User:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 17:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 
== Split screen ==
 
Any word on whether the multiplayer mode will include split-screen support? From the screenshots, it looks like network mode is fairly definite. --[[User:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 17:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 
== Where did you get the release date from? ==
 
On the main site it says to stay tunned.[[User:Spec-Opp Spartan|Spec-Opp Spartan]] 06:59, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind if I changed it Pending or whatever last time I checked website said stay tuned[[User:Spec-Opp Spartan|Spec-Opp Spartan]] 03:29, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Game fans/trolls seem to like to make things like that up for some reason. If you see a release date wtihout a source cited, it's usually best to delete it immediately, before it spreads. --[[User:68.44.253.17|68.44.253.17]] 23:22, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 
== Another Bit of Trivia ==
 
Marathon took place on a colony ship right i will let you guys decide if this is anything or not
 
* yeah, it means that you're an asshat. congratulations.
 
* No. They were completely different - one is an actual ship, the other was made from a moon. And the game won't take place on the ship, but on the planet. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 04:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 
== BR55HB SR ==
 
You can see from the trailer that the rifle being used by the Marines is actually the older BR55.  Recommend a correction.
 
 
then do it yourself! damn!
 
== Theory on Storyline ==
 
As some of you know, a few screenshots have depicted Covenant and UNSC forces doing battle on hilly, grass covered terrain. In some of those same screenshots, it shows a Halo (or what looks like a Halo) in the background.
 
Does anyone else think that we're only hearing a small portion of the actual storyline. Perhaps the storyline does not just cover Harvest, but may involve other important events, such as the Battle of Installation 04, or even the Battle of Installation 00.
 
Any thoughts?--[[User:72.141.217.254|72.141.217.254]] 00:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 
:I'm not so sure about the Halo. It may have been a part of the campaign, but since it takes place more than twenty years before Halo: CE, I think its more probably a multiplayer map. I think it's pretty obvious that Ensemble are going to keep the lid on the plot of Halo Wars until its released - look at what Bungie did with Halo 3, and we had people complaining about spoilers. Then again, any speculation is going to be absolutely irrelevant until the game comes out. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 00:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 
== Forerunner Playable ==
 
Okay, I know that it was "confirmed" by Ensemble and all that, but can we really put that up right now.  I mean, it's April Fool's Day.  Not to completely deny the announcement, but... I don't think it is something that we can just put on the page without waiting a few days to see if it is truly going to be done.  Excuse my trepidation, but I would just like to see how this plays out first.  I mean, this isn't something that should be taken lightly in the Halo universe... and we know Bungie wouldn't have a problem doing this, who's to say Ensemble wouldn't do this kind of thing either.[[User:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 23:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 
:Sorry for the edit man, i didn´t read this--[[User:HALOnapster|HALOnapster]] 03:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
There is no debate whether this is true. Read the article, the original one. It links you to Wikipedia's page for "April Fools" when you click for the original source. And why would Ensemble not post this on their own website? And why would they laugh when they read it? And why, oh why would they wish you a happy first of april at the end of it? [[User:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 03:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 
:THat, and the 100,000 year waiting time and the ability to build a Halo to kill everyone... '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 
== Spaceships ==
 
In Halo wars will there be space ships if so then will there be space wars and can you build ships from factory e.g phenoiz class ships
 
I don't think space ships will be in this game it would be cool though..I doubt they would put it in
-[[User:Spec-Opp Spartan]]
 
No spacebattles unfortunately, I think that many fans as well as I would like to see spacebattles in a Halo game. [[User:VanFlyhight|VanFlyhight]] 19:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 
==New UNSC Unit?==
 
In the "titanic clash" picture above the scorpion and below the blurred warthogs is that a new unit or something? it looks like an oversized marine.  [[User:Hollywood101x|Hollywood]]
 
:I thought it looked like a Spartan. --'''[[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:57, June 30, 2020

Title Image

It says it is pending a rating. Someone should fix that. --Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato 20:16, November 8, 2009 (UTC)


Sequel??

Does anyone else get the hint that there is going to be a sequel? I mean, like, the legendary ending and how Cutter puts something of Forge's into a cryo chamber (What is that, anyways?) Yeah I know that Ensemble is closing, but the new Robot people could probably pull it off. Anyone else think that there could be a sequel? Joem2502:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

  • there already is one its called halo 1 ha ha204.186.3.139 02:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

There may be one but they may think some people really enjoy the cliff hanger that is never answered crap. yeah cliff hangers suck and if their never answered its crap --Bruce9 16:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Halo Wars updating

Are we going to add things from Halo Wars like health and damage into the existing articles or make new ones? For example, add the damage a Spartan does with a Spartan Laser shot to the Spartans Laser's page, Spartan II's page or a whole new page? FishType1 19:42, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Spartans

Who are these Spartans? Do you think they'll ever reveal to us, throughout the course of the story, who they are (i.e. Name and Number)? Also, do you think they'll show us their faces? Their helmets, contrary to populat belief, are not stuck on. H1's ending shows John taking off his helmet, H2's start and H3's ad both show John putting on his helmet. Also, in the books, the Spartan have been shown their faces before. Normally only in the presense of other Spartans or trusted accosiates, like Halsey, but still...

Just checked. The whole OMEGA group in campaign mode has names, numbers, everything. No appereance without helmets, though. Nor they've appeared as something more than just Spartan-IIs in off-game cinematics yet. "Talking head" is just the helmet.

Flood enemies

How big of a threat do you think the flood will be to your infintry,A small one or a huge ginormas one that will piss you off?Sith Venator 21:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Are the flood going to be able to infect Spartans? The flood is a menace in the halo games but they are going to be more of a menace in Halo wars. They will just infect troops turn them against you. Will flood use weapons? Will they be able to me lee everything?

Don't create whole new categories for a comment that already fits into a present category. Furthermore, discussions based off of relevant or irrelevant news to add to an article. This isn't a forum where you can spew ideas around about how the game will play. Do that at Bungie.net or Ensemblestudios.com

Colonel Calamity 18:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Sith Venator they cant as Spartans have Genetic Augmentations which means that they cant take ove ra modified body like Sergeant Johnson as he is a Spartan 1

Interesting New Article

Hey guys I just stumbled across this today. I think it has a lot of fun new information. I haven't really worked on this page but someone who has here is the link http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3172311 to a 1up.com exclusive about Halo Wars.

Colonel Calamity 00:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Colonel Calamity

glassing

lol! glassing reminds me of the particle up link canon in command and conquer generals zero hour. And the flood is going to be a menace.

Well ya the Flood are going to be a menace, they always are, & Glassing is going to be fun! (not meant to be offensive) -- User:Mechanical-Menace

Exclusive?

It says this is a 360 exclusive, unlike the rest of the series.

What other platform was Halo 3 on? Wasn't that a 360 exclusive? 24.78.46.197 03:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you kidding me!?! You are editing a Halo-based wiki and you don't know what consoles it has been released for? All Halo games are owned by Microsoft. Thus all numbered Halos have been released on the Xbox. Halo:CE and Halo 2 were also released for the Windows platform. Halo:CE was also released for Mac OS back in the day when Halo was originally designed for the Mac (prior to its rights being bought out by Microsoft). Halo Wars will follow a similar pattern. Right now Microsoft is sticking to their guns and saying Halo Wars will only be released on the 360. With Ensemble being closed soon I doubt we'll see a PC port within the next two years. Heck it took Halo 2, two years to be ported to the PC.

Colonel Calamity 00:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)Colonel Calamity

Confirming this as far as it is known in Microsoft's Russian unit. Also agree with the upper statement as far as remember.

Halo 3 still hasn't been ported as it would run on virtually no computers. And that was a 360 exclusive that didn't get ported, so Halo Wars might not either. FishType1 19:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Somebody is inserting their own opinion into the article

"Spartans do not have shields, as they are outfitted with the MJOLNIR Mk. IV, meaning they should not be capable of supporting AIs, a fact which has apparently been overlooked." Whoever wrote this obviously didn't read the books. Cortana and/other smart AI's are capable of putting themselves into most electronic devices. In "The Fall of Reach," I think, or the book where Master Chief is tested by the Admiral in a field test, he doesn't have the Mark V yet but Cortana is still downloaded into his suit and giving him instructions. Colonel Calamity 18:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the armour he wore during the field test is the MJOLNIR Mk. V. It is the first MJOLNIR armour to sport such feature (Shield System). In addition, the suit was able to support AI. I think you misread... but it is true, there shouldn't be any personal opinion in the article.-5ub7ank(7alk) 18:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

In "The Fall of Reach it is stated that the crystal layer for supporting AI and the shield system are improvements that were installed in MJOLNIR Mk. V and not before (the shield technology was derived from jackal shields captured by Blue team and the other spartans AFTER the Mk. IV armour was issued so UNSC shield technology could not possibly have existed at the time of the battle of Harvest), it is also mentioned that the Mk. V needed a much larger Fusion core to power these new add-ons so anything below Mk. V armour would not have been able to support these even if the were installed.Molotovsniper 09:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Bad news: Spartan's armour in Halo Wars appears to have shields. At least a shield bar and all the sounds are there. The manual says nothing about the model, but it does say it is shielded. Somebody was a fan of Mark IV, but this point of view needs reconsidering.

I think Everyone should keep in mind that Halo Wars isn't so true to the Halo Story Bible as the Halo games by Bungie and the books written by various authors. For instance, the Arbiter is meant to be a sacraficial or risk-taking role to redeem one's honor in death, but in Halo Wars, the Arbiter is a powerful military leader who's able for the most part to do what he wants without opposition. IMO, Halo Wars shouldn't be considered canon, or at least only parts of it should be canon (like historic events, people, etc.; but not disputable or constradicting things.)

  • I would agree with the above. The UNSC suddenly developed energy weapons, which they didn't have until the early 2550s. Also, the UNSC and the Covenant both encounter the Flood, which contradicts earlier canon. The Covenant is easily capable of communicating through slipspace, which means that the Covenant should have known what the Flood was. Also, the Flood was encountered by Spartans. Since all of the Spartans were accounted for in 2552, and we knew of the specific casualties, that means that the entire Spartan Program should have known about the Flood... which they didn't. (Quirel)

That's right. But who knows what happened to the "Spirit"? Maybe by 2552 she's still deep inside Covenant territory, unable to report it's findings? And the Covenant never seemed to worry about the Parasite, did they? They should've guessed what the Flood was after they've studied so many Forerunner artifacts! But they've overlooked it! Yeah I consider my self a expert on halo and know more about halo than these guys.And there trying make a game for halo they should have studied it more.

New Covenant Unit??

I was watching the new video of Halo Wars today on xbox.com/halo, when I noticed a huge covenant unit that looks a lot like a Scarab, but it isn't. Quickly pause at 2:03. It looks a lot like a Scarab. Maybe it is a building of some sort...? There is a link for it on the Halo Wars website. I would also like to add that for those who haven't watched this video it gives some great in-game footage of Spartans, as well as the multiplayer map supposed to be modeled after Blood Gulch. You can really see the resemblences. Response: You fool! It's a Scarab under construction!

And you know this, how? Its obviously not a new unit, like I suggested.

Actually you're half right, it's not a normal scarab but it's only made for that campaign mission. It's a super scarab (check the mission objectives)

Rock Band 2 References?

I just noticed that two achivements in this game are both references to songs that are in Rock Band 2. He's got the Jack is a reference to the AC/DC song "The Jack" that is in the AC/DC LIVE Rock Band Track Pack. Ramblin' Man is a song by the All-man Brother's band. Does anyone think that they are a fans of just the bands or Rock Band 2 in general? -User: Joem25

Not everything is a refrence, it is most likley not.

Also, "He's got the Jack" most likely refers to the "Jackhammer", which is a nickname for a rocket launcher in the Halo universe. I don't know much about the other suspected reference, but I'm guessing it's also false. Besides, "He's got the Jack" and "The Jack" is a pretty far stretch if you ask me. TheREALBloodscar 07:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Plus, I've seen two references to Age of Mythology, one of Ensemble's earlier projects.

The first is the Cyclops powered armor. If you've read the article, then you know about it: Both Cyclopses (from HW and AoM) deal heavy damage and have similar special powers-the Greek Cyclops will throw enemies at other enemies, the UNSC Cyclops will rip a vehicle to shreds and throw the pieces at enemies. The second is the skull "Wuv Woo" which you should already know about after having Halo Wars for some time: Wuv Woo, when turned on, makes Scarabs shoot rainbows (or "beams of pure love"), and is a reference to the Flying Purple Hippo, summoned by the name of the skull. S-984 22:24, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

game manual

I found the manual for the game on the official Halo Wars website heres a link http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/31804095-7B32-4CE2-A17E-3CB54A3692EF/0/HaloWars_MNL_EN.PDF it holds a lot of new info about the specifics of the game including all the leaders abilities and plenty of other great info. I would add all the info myself but I have never really edited a page and would not know what im doing.

Forerunner Structures and other stuff from the Demo Screen.

I found a bunch of intel on the buildings from in the game (It took me a long time to get it all). --Darktrooper117 21:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Put the gathered information/intel here and we'll see if it is relevant...-5ub7ank(7alk) 21:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I put it in the Forerunner section. --Darktrooper117 04:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Where exactly did you find this? SQ G T3rr0R 09:31, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

The Text Crawl at the bottom of the Demo Screen. Like I said, it took a while. --Darktrooper117 00:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and another thing that I thought was interesting: it mentioned that you will be able to claim off-base locations for building structures, specifically building Base Turrets in remote areas to act as sentries, as well as minibase sites where you can build individual barracks or supply pads.--Darktrooper117 04:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC) (Possible image of minibase design) File:Barracks_concept.jpg|thumb|left]]

Skulls

Halo Wars has skulls, as confirmed here. Shouldn't we create an article about them? - Μητσάρας κι όποιος αντέξει File:1229655910-Th_master.jpg|20px]] 20:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Guess we'd better wait the game to be released.. after that we will for sure :) Spirit of Fire 19:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

It is released, and there are skulls. Why don't we go find them? I have found three already they are grunt birthday party, fog and boomstick.

Mythic?

Does anyone know how getting the map pack work? I mean, you have a disc, but does it download to your system to be accessible to Halo 3, or is it a free copy only to the disc, & you have to download it anyway? Deimel Longshot 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Deimel LongshotDeimel Longshot 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

For the Limited Edition Halo Wars? I think it'll probably be on a disc, or perhaps a code to download it. For the map pack itself, standing apart from Halo Wars, it'll be purchasable with 800 MS points, as always. --CoH|Councillor]] SpecopsUserWiki:Specops306|306]] - Qur'a 'Morhek 05:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

with the limited collectors edition you recieve a redeem code for the honor guard wraith, Halo 3 map pack and Xbox Live trial on a piece of card.Molotovsniper 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, so the is no way to give somebody JUST the Mythic Code? Because I already have them, and I got Halo Wars today. So I want to give the code away, but I want my Honor Gaurd Wraith... :( Goheels619 19:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

All Halo Wars Cinematics on Youtube

Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.

I just discovered the entire theatre of CGI cinematics on youtube. I think we should post them here, but I don't know how to myself (And if I do something wrong, I know you all will yell at me, lol). Here are the links, so could someone put them up to play in the trailers section. [1] [2] --Darktrooper117 03:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I just added a spoiler tag to your post. Rest assured, once the game comes out the cutscenes will undoubtedly be uploaded individually, and added to the cutscene archive. --CoH|Councillor]] SpecopsUserWiki:Specops306|306]] - Qur'a 'Morhek 04:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Released?

Where did this get released? It isn't even Feb. 27 yet! BPL 00:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

It came out yesterday or today in Japan/Australia. FishType1 11:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I know some websites send the item before the actual release date if you pre-order; I have received a game sometimes 3 or even 4 days before the official release date in the past.Vendack 14:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Because I live in the UK and pre-ordered my copy from GAME I got mine a day erlier then the European release. FishType1 20:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

It's over, everyone! I've got it on February 28th, so it should be out now. My one was on Russian, so I think it has been released and localized globally. By the way, translation is fine.

New 5 long years vid?

The one that is already there is 6 minutes long. That's like 4 minutes of black screen!

Grunt Flood?

So I played the Campaign of Halo Wars today (Dutch, haha) and I noticed that I was fighting Infected Grunts. I selected the Grunts and it showed Flood, Infected Grunts. I thought they couldn't be infected? SQ G T3rr0R 00:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

it might have been a different flood form and not a grunt cause the grunts can not get infected i have played the campain and i have seen flood forms that look like grunts but they were not. Shipmaster117 01:23, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I am really sure that they were Grunts.~They were even called that way. Maybe an oversight from Ensemble? SQ G T3rr0R 17:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

What mission? Mission 08 to Mission 10,I know I faced Flood ODST,flying flood;Swams,and a flying carrier-like flood.--SPARTAN-124 02:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)SPARTAN-124


Since when can't grunts be infected? Just because you don't see them in Halo: CE, Halo 2, or Halo 3 doesn't mean grunts can't be infected. Also, I have seen the infected grunts as well and they are titled as "Infected Grunt". (PS: Why can't anyone here type with proper grammer, spelling, capitalization, puctuation, AND full sentences?) TheREALBloodscar 07:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Those are, in fact, Flood-infected Grunts. To above poster: Correct spelling is grammar and punctuation. Don't complain if yours isn't up to par. Smoke My pageMy talk 08:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Yes, those are infected Grunts. It has been confirmed by other media that the Grunts are not used for combat forms, but are recycled into carrier forms. Whoopsie. (Quirel)

Better news. I've seen a pair of jackal combat forms! Just a pair of kig' yar armed with carbines but infected. Seriously, this sounds like Ensemble has deliberately overseen these facts or otherwise the Covenant would have had a real advantage - most of their forces wouldn't be able to become combat forms!

Missing Spartans

Okay under the plot put in for Halo Wars it says this "It should also be noted that on the timeline, it says that 25 of 28 surviving SPARTAN-II's were called to Reach, the other three being Gray Team, meaning that SPARTANs Alice, Douglas and Jerome must have been found, along with the crew of Spirit of Fire,", Although in the same timeline it says that the Spirit of Fire as of Feb 10th 2534 is considered lost with all hands. So that would mean that the Spartans in the game wouldn't be considered part of the surviving 28 so it doesn't mean they were found. Sorry if I'm coming off as sounding rude or anything I don't mean to and sorry if this is in the wrong spot. ZIPO 04:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Just my 2 cent, but if it came from ONI, they have a habit of claiming one thing (Spartan's MIA, WIA when they were KIA) so if they were LWAH it could be due to the Flood infection on board or the Spartan's that joined them. I don't offically know but my best guess could be that ONI covered it up, so don't take LWAH to seriously then again perhaps they were LWAH. --Megidra 19:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
  • ZIPO's conclusion is not exactly correct. Just because the Spirit of Fire was considered lost on Feb10th, 2534 doesn't mean that it has not been found by 2552, which is when the 28 surviving SPARTAN-II's were mentioned. However, that would lead to more discrepancies in the storyline, such as why didn't ONI know about the Flood? Why did ONI seem surprised at Dr.Halsey's conclusion that there might be a third race (in 2552)? I searched for the timeline mentioned in the plot in Halo Wars, but couldn't find it. Could someone please post where the timeline is mentioned? Thanks. --Ant80 05:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
  • What I meant was that they weren't necessarily found considering it isn't mentioned in the timeline. Although they still could of been found but that would bring up bigger cannon issues. The timeline is mentioned in the bottom paragraph of the plot section. Also I might just say it doesn't say that some of the surviving crew are infected in the timeline it says that they decided to burn the bodies infected and not bring any samples on board due to how dangerous it is.--ZIPO 09:07, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. They couldn't have been found as that would have meant the UNSC would've knew of the flood. I think it should be changed.

  • It wont be removed people like to use the number given in the fall of reach for how many Spartans are left even thou that number changes a bit in the throughout the book. People seem to want it in the article so much it's now in there twice with additional "Violation's of Halo Cannon" that isn't backed up or is contradicted somewhere else.--ZIPO 01:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

People are forgetting that there were 35 Spartans that survived augmentation. Subtract Kurt, Randall and Shiela as MIA, Cassandra as WIA, Grey team, and the original Red Team, and you get 25 Spartans, the number the timeline states. And remember, Eric Nylund contradicts himself a lot from TFoR to FS, so his numbers, while they came first, may not be as accurate as they were intended to be. --CoH|Councillor]] SpecopsUserWiki:Specops306|306]] - Qur'a 'Morhek 07:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The number also changes a few times during TFOR so that makes it less clear still.--ZIPO 07:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Somebody really needs to make it clear...

If we assume that there were 35 Spartans that survived augementations, 35-4(Kurt, Sam, Shiela, and Randall)=31-1(Cassandra)=30-3(Grey Team)=27-3(supposedly Red Team)=24. Halo Wars states that 25 of 28 surviving spartans fight at reach. therefore, the only logical explanation is that we must go off of the original number of 33 survived agumentation and assume red team was at reach, giving us 25 fighting spartans. (How is this more logical then assuming 36 survived augmentations?)

Serina

Can we try and sort this out so it's spelt right? (Serina is the right spelling, I checked the manual)

Halo Wars Timeline

Can we create a new page with all the events of Halo Wars Timeline listed? I tried to create one, but it was deleted. I can recreate the page, but I want to make sure that I'm not violating the rules, and that the mods won't delete it. --Ant80 22:28, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

"Official" Canon

Look, whoever it is who's putting things about "official" canon, please stop. Just because this game isn't made by Bungie does not mean that it is completely non-canon. Rather, past statements it contradicts should be Previous Canon. I'll try and address some of the supposed "violations".

Honestly, most of these can be dispelled by a little research and effort. I'm renmoving these ones. it just seems more like someone with a vendetta against anything that isn't bungie made, than an actual attempt to wikify knowledge.

Update: have moved "violation" addressing to blog

--CoH|Councillor]] SpecopsUserWiki:Specops306|306]] - Qur'a 'Morhek 03:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

A good call. The 888th Avatar (Talk) 03:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, Specops, you have a bit of a problem. Someone pretty much re-added the whole thing. Smoke My pageMy talkMy Editcount 15:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Well seeing as he's gonna say all that and I agree with all his points I'm gonna say this.
"The only major flaw in the cutscenes that doesn’t coincide with the official canon but isn’t a major timeline flaw is the fact that the Spartans have magnetic strips in their armor that hold their weapons. That feature wasn’t introduced until after the Mark VI Armor."
They used the mark VI armor in halo 2 as well and we didn't see the magnetic strip there either and he didn't get new armor in between halo 2 and 3 and did say they didn't have it on the earlier versions of the armor.--ZIPO 03:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I've removed that section altogether, and am considering protecting the page to prevent its re-addition. --CoH|Councillor]] SpecopsUserWiki:Specops306|306]] - Qur'a 'Morhek 01:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Listen, it is not a vendetta against Ensemble, but i love these books and video games and any fault should be addressed. and if you have a problem with what someone is writing, confront them first about it instead of saying things like they have problems with things that they don't. be a man... Psycho60 01:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I did address it with you. I sent you a board message that apparently got ignored. I pointed you to an article where it would be more appropriate. I also tried to condense and reformat it, removing the "violations" that are not really violations at all. That was deleted, and the previous version was re-added. I never said you had a vendetta, only that it was how it looked. And as for "being a man"? I'm twenty in June for heavens sake, and I'm the one being lectured to? --CoH|Councillor]] SpecopsUserWiki:Specops306|306]] - Qur'a 'Morhek 02:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
It relates to the game, therefore it should remain on the page. Try and discuss which parts that you feel aren't backed by the books or games and we'll see which ones should remain here and which ones i'll put everywhere else. yes, you are being lectured to because it is not hard to figure out who was writing what, that's how i found you. so why wouldn't you talk it over rather than just butcher it? they are violations, cross check them with all of the other material. i haven't made one thing that i wrote up.
I did address them. --CoH|Councillor]] SpecopsUserWiki:Specops306|306]] - Qur'a 'Morhek 08:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't any actual inconsistancies and discrepancies go on the 'List of Inconsistances in Halo' page anyway? *would link the actual page but hasn't figured out how to do that yet* Zeno 'Ribal 17:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Not in a freaking blog, 1on1 personally. tell ME which parts you have a problem with so i can better determine how to edit them

while there are some cannon flaws like the spartan lasers being in the game the halo universe is changeble such as in the fall of reach all but 6 or 7 spartans are at reach 2 KIA and one WIA and grey teams some where else but then thats proven wrong since kurt and randall disapeared and some one else got killed by hunters now with red teams MIA even less but there was a second batch of spartans they weren't trained by mendez and where the funding came from is unknown though--Bruce9 16:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Faulty Link

Some where in this article is a faulty link to "reactor" that goes to a nonexistant page instead of the real one. I would fix this but I can't find the link and I don't know how.Potatom 16:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup

The "Criticism" section is in desperate need of rewriting, citing and sourcing (or outright deletion). Especially since many of the claims are utterly laughable. Lets take the Arbiter bit as an example. Here is the cutscene in Halo 2 where the article claims "...in Halo 2, when the Arbiter armour is revealed, the Prophets say that it is the very armour that each Arbiter wore." No such line of dialogue exists, and as such (and I just provided the link as proof) it should be removed as fanon/vandalism.

Factor into this the implausibility of the Arbiter's armor surviving in usable form over centuries and the fact that not all Elites are the same size (anywhere from 8-11 feet in height, if I'm not mistaken) and it just becomes preposterous. Considering the amount of battle damage that the suit would take over this long period of time (and the power of weapons involved, such as energy swords, plasma weapons and grenades), the Arbiter's armor would be about as good as tinfoil by the time of Halo 2 if was in fact handed down to each one in succession. And since being appointed the Arbiter is clearly the equivalent of a prolonged death sentence at the hands of the enemy (as shown in the cutscene linked in my first paragraph), it is highly unlikely that all their corpses could be recovered and for the armor to be in a perfectly usable condition by the next appointee (imagine if one was involved in a space battle and his ship was destroyed? Where would they be?).

As far as SPARTANS, I'm not as good at that subject, so I won't question the information presented (for the moment). However, it still needs sourcing and citations for the claims presented. I would have cleaned this up myself, but due to the article being locked I'm hoping an admin would be willing to do this. Have a nice day, Master GumpMe, myself and me are very important... Or not 18:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The fact that elites are different sizes is irrelevant. Armor can be shaped to match body shape (Like suits of armor in the medieval times, smiths could change the shape of that armor to match a single person). But the survival of the suit over time is unlikely, so you do have a good point. while it is odd that the special ops elites directly say the armor isn't as new as theirs you do have a point about the damage--Bruce9 16:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This could be because they use the same 'model' of armor for each Arbiter. This could lead to a new set of armor for each, yet it still being 'not as new' as the fully updated Elite special ops armor.

Rebels

Someone should try to get a shot of the rebel base. It would make for a good illustration for the rebel articles. --Dragonclaws(talk) 08:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup of Contradictions

I am taking out the following bit:

"While accepted by Microsoft, the owners of the Halo IP, as official canon, Halo Wars contradicts previously established canon in a number of ways, ranging from minor errors to major flaws. Some of these may simply be retcons of previous statements, or mistakes by the developers."

The reason for this is that only one example is given as to these supposed canon mess ups, so there isn't enough evidence or sources to claim that there are problems ranging from "minor errors or major flaws". As for the shields, it was probably done for gameplay issues (as stated in two paragraphs down). Furthermore, I am taking the liberty of changing the section title to "Continuity", as proper criticism would deal with critiquing by reviewers, not continuity errors/minor goofs.

Also, I am taking out the following passage:

"Given the traditionally high popularity of the Spartans within the Halo universe, it is understandable that the new Spartan members of the Halo Wars cast have come under extensive scrutiny, considerably more so than other facets of the game. The Spartans designated as “Red Team" provide the biggest problem when it comes to breaks with previous canon. Their flaws are both in the in-game Spartans, the cut scene Spartans, and the Spartan timeline."

First, the passage gives no sources, either in novels, games or other affiliated merchandise. Secondly, it gives no examples to prove its point as to what the offending content is (what are these breaks in canon? What are the differences between the in-game, cutscene and timeline Spartans that it speaks of? If there is a consistency error, does Halo Wars officially retcon previous material as it is the more recent source?). I think until someone produces a sourced, detailed and well written section on this controversy that it should have no place in the article. Master GumpMe, myself and me are very important... Or not 19:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

droneless??

why are there no drones?204.186.3.52 02:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

May well be before the drones were forced into the Covenant --Jaguartalon 02:51, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

It is well established in the canon that Drones were not used as combat units until the Battle of Earth. We also know they have been a part of the Covenant since at least 2525, five years before Halo Wars, as they are featured in the book "Contact: Harvest". It is most likely simply a game design decision.InnerRayg 02:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

age of myhtology

the games are very similiar aom has a cyclops that throughs stuff so does halowars aom has godpowers from above one of which is frost which freezes stuff halowars has the spiritfre who as wepons that it fires from above one of wich freezes things both were made by ensemble studios could we make a refrence

That's because the games are developed by the same people, Ensemble Studios. The name Cyclops is a homage to their other game, and the gameplay mechanics are just things they have done before.InnerRayg 02:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


Socket bases suck

The socket base thing means a serious reduction in tactiacal thought required (placement of buildings, particularly defences) and its just generaly a minimal-thinking game. which does NOT fit with being an RTS for such a beloved universe. Gunnery Sergeant Maiar 10:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh shut it - anonymous

You'd rather Ensemble dedicated half of the gameplay to just placing a base? Most of the people who play this are going to have the attention spans of chimpanzees, and would want to get right into the fight. They don't have time or patience that traditional RTS players have, and the game needs to take that into account. Besides that, the controller doesn't really give the player much in the way of options.
I agree that it reduces tactical options, but it was a conscious decision by Ensemble to focus more on action than micro-managing. They could have enhanced it somewhat with more structures with specialised functions - decide which tech tree you had to follow, and make the player stick with it, rather than select leaders pre-game. Once you build, say, an "ONI Armoury", you had a set of upgrades that you can use, but can't build other types. And etc. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek Honour Light Your Way! 10:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad design. A large portion of the people I've talked to appreciate not having to spend so much energy managing economy or building locations, particularly with the limited controls of a console. Independent of personal opinions, it's irrelevant to the Wiki, unless in a section on critical review, which should be from cited sources.

News Story

Is the news about the leaked campaign expansion true or is it just an April Fools Day thing?Trooper117 20:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Previous canon contradiction

I think the plentiful things in which Halo Wars contradicts previous canon should be addressed somewhere in the page. Some of which include:

Humans in general (Forge as an example, defeating the freaking Arbiter in hand-to-hand combat) being exxageratedly overpowered in combat against elites. In the novels, the Spartans were described as being about on par with elites in combat, but not like in the game(edit: pluralize), where they just slaughter them with almost comical ease.

Another thing about the spartans is, why even were there so many of them on Arcadia? Red team i understand, but team omega is a little much. I mean, normally spartans were deployed only in small teams. Also, how was Arcadia so important to defend, as it was just a lowly populated vacation resort. There were a plenty of other colonies being attacked at the time.

Originally it was stated that elites weren't even deployed in battle against humans before the battle of Reach. At least not in as large numbers as in HW. However, this is probably just because of the gameplay. As is the issue with spartans having shields.

In the end, Anders and much of the other staff go to cryo pods with clothes on. However, it was stated earlier (in The fall of Reach) that normal humans couldn't go to cryo with clothes on, as it would've caused immense pain and freeze burns. Of course, they couldn't have shown Anders naked in a T-rated game, but they could've simply made the scene different and simply left the cryo pod part out.

There are some more, but i don't have time to write right now. Anyways, anyone else think some of these things should be mentioned on the page?


--Jugus 15:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

  • Omega team, Anders was down there and she was important, as for them actualy being there that could have just been a wonderfull coincidence.
  • Forge vs Arbiter, the only hand-to-hand thing he did was tackling the arbiter after he lost his rifle. now we can assume that a frontline veteren like himselfe would be pretty strong and muscle has a lot of mass plus his body-armour so he just threw all of that as hard as he could, fairly low on the arb's body and caught him of balence as he did all this rather suddenly. after that he shot him in the hand to make him let go of his sword. The arbiter incapacitated him in one punch to the gut, Forge then stabbed him in the face with his combat knife (first time we have seen it used i think) and then in the chest with the sword.
  • Plentifull elites: were half Honour guards (an arbiter and a hierarch were present) and half field officers. this was a high prority mission for them so they put down their best.
  • Spartan-elite: spartans are said to be about even with major domo elites physicaly but we have seen spartans to be faster, smarter and more agile and inventive. also i think that it may be equal without the MJOLNIR which enhances them further. spartans have always kicked total ass, even the weaker SPARTAN-III units must have been at least equal to the elites or they never would have done the kind of things they did.
  • cryo clothes: yeah thats a litle unnecacery. they could have simply not show anyone naked...at least front on. maybe they could have not gone to anders pod untill it had fogged to all but her face which was also soon covered. and mabe the crews uniforms were cryo-tolereant which would not surprise me.

All of the above bullets by Gunnery Sergeant Maiar 23:00, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

MA5 what?

I think its the MA5C assalt rifle used in halo wars because it behaves and (i think) even looks like it. this would support something i suggested on the MA5 page; the C is not a new model but a different varient for generalised use. the B was a close-quaters weapon issued to the Pillar of Autumn's armouries because of its planned mission (im actualy a bit fuzzy on what that was but i know it would have been mostly ship-bourd) which would alos accaunt for the rarity of long-range weapons compared to the other 2 games which were along side regular marines issued with the standard sortie.

Gunnery sergeant Maiar 23:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

That weapon fires far faster than the MA5C. It's the MA5B - just much shinier, apparently. 23:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

But it still has the sound from the MA5C, which is a shame as I don't care for guns that sounds like popcorns popping. Baryon15 18:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Sources Cleanup

This article has tons of messy references. Could someone clean it up?- 5əb'7aŋk(7alk) 20:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

UNSC Leviathan?

Under the cut content section, someone listed cut content with pictures from the concept art thread. However, the UNSC Leviathan is listed as cut content. Where is this based off of? I never heard/saw this as being cut from Halo Wars.--67.171.46.168 00:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there any mention of said ship in Halo Wars? XRoadToDawnX 01:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
No, just the Sipirt of Fire, ships at Arcadia: The Belfast, The Texas, The Armstrong, The Pillar of Autumn, and the unnamed Covenant ships (cruisers/destryoers). And even so, they only showed the Spirit of Fire and that Covenant destroyer it ran into.--67.171.46.168 18:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Spartan Miscount Problem

Isn't the answer to this whole 25 out of 28 spartans at reach thing kinda simple. The spirit of fire was considered lost with all hands, meaning the spartans were considered dead (or technically missing) by the unsc. meaning 25 out of the 28 "living" spartans were at reach. --67.171.46.168 19:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

The real problem is that there can't have been 28 living at that time either way. 33 surviving augmentation minus Sam, Kurt, Sheila, Maria, Cassandra and two other casualties mentioned in Fall of Reach equals 26, not 28. And that's ignoring the unconfirmed-but-probable losses of Randall and Unnamed Spartan (Harvest). And later in FoR, five more Spartans join the 25. --Andrew Nagy 17:53, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Spartan Superiotiy

I editted Spartans and made the change ".... is arguably Superior to all infantry units both UNSC and Convenant." i made this beacuse of their superior speed,range,health and upgrades feel free to correct me and also comment.

Listed Twice

On this page it lists Engineers twuce one as infantry, and one as aircraft.Snore 15:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Fixed.XRoadToDawnX 15:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

When spartans are upgraded with laser

DOes their melee damage and also range damage increase or just range Soviet Tez 08:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandal

This page has been vandalized by some person he deleted a bunch of stuff on the article. And he wrote it over with everything wrong.Snore 23:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

We need a admin.--Jack Black 23:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I already contacted one.Snore 23:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The weird thing is, someone else, somewhere else claims it's a Command and Conquer rip-off.--Werefang 23:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
CnC did everything in RTS its like Doom and FPS and Metal Gear and stealth games. Besides its Sci-Fi its been down already, read Starships Troopers novel its from the 50's and it has zerging mechs and super soldiers and cyborg dogs.--Jack Black 23:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
All of which are inherent requirements of sci fi. It's really the same logic that says all JRPGs are Final Fantasy rip-offs. There's really no such thing as a modern, original game because just about everything has been done already. If we seriously only bought games with no similarities to older games, we'd still be stuck with nothing but pong and pac-man because most games are just the modification and fixing of older ones. Or did you think that I was saying it was a "rip-off"? If this is the case, I was just pointing out the inconsistancy of selective ignorance.--Werefang 23:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The vandal has been given a six month ban. The banhammer's thirst has been quenched with blood, and has been sheathed to await its glorious return. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek Honour Light Your Way! 23:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

most of the stuff on this page is all questions about stuff that most of us have already had awnsers to all that stuff by playin' the game.

storyline weirdness

OK, I'm having trouble desperately trying to fan wank the storyline of this game. It's really awesome but it's like the makers quickly glossed over the game's storyline before deciding to make it Halo 3: The RTS. I don't care if an individual doesn't know everything there is to know about the Haloverse, but a company making a Halo game should. This is why I hate prequels (I'm afraid to play ODST. Already I'm seeing canoncy issues).

My questions are as follows (mind you, I've only gotten past the first mission where you fight the Flood. So if anything is rectified later in the game, just tell me that I'll find out later):

1) How the hell are they fighting Hunters about twenty years before they were introduced (I've never minded that issue so much with the Elites since that made no damn sense anyway, but the Hunters)? For that matter:

2) How the hell are they fighting Brutes at this stage of the war!? At least with the Elites and Hunters, such a contradiction is limited only to the books. Halo 2, if I remember, heavily implies that the humans have never seen Brutes before. According to First Strike, aren't the Brutes supposed to be simply temple guards before they were "promoted" in Halo 2 to fully replace the Elites?

3) The Flood. How the hell does humanity finding the Flood this early work out? I was under the impression that the Covenant didn't even know about them.

4) The Arbiter is (as far as I know) on the creepy Brute/Flood planet when the Prophet orders him to bring Anders "here" to the Apex facility. In the half hour or whatever between the UNSC destroying the Scarab and the Arbiter capturing her, he Slipspaces over to Arcadia (without being detected by the Spirit of Fire or planetary defenses), lands on the planet while parking his spaceship directly over a UNSC base swarming with Marines and Spartans, and brings Anders up in that gravity beam that connects to a standard Halo 1 dropship (only Covenant starships and Phantoms have been shown to have this). Geez, and I thought Master Chief was good. What the heck was going on there? Was this like a special stealth ship that he had that was also capable of Slipspace travel or something? How did nobody detect this thing, how did he get there so fast, and why does a regular dropship have that gravity transport beam?

5) Help me understand the deal with Harvest. This takes place after what this site calls the Third Battle of Harvest, which either started 5 years after the Second Battle of Harvest (which was Cole's giant fleet) or was a 5 year long battle (even though the game says the latter, I believe the former). Harvest was only partially glassed during the First Battle of Harvest (like Reach). The Third Battle involved major space battles between the Spirit of Fire (and other UNSC ships, I imagine, since UNSC ships lose in even battles against Covenant ships unless Captain Keyes is in command) and Covenant forces. By the time the first level starts, humans have pretty much won the battle and retook Harvest (possibly even destroying all the enemy's ships), but are still tracking down the Covenant ground forces near what is a major Forerunner installation. Am I anywhere near close?Son of God-Enel 05:38, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

I see you're new, but this is not a forum. I've sent you a lengthy message explaining the story, "inconsistencies", etc. Check your user board. I hope it helps. --"A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 22:55, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

The UNSC lost it's "coolness"

Does anyone think that the UNSC in Halo Wars has to many lasers? I mean look at the hawk, Cobra and Gremlin! they all shoot lasers, aren't the Covenant supppose to have plasma weapon, forerunners have LASERS and the UNSC to have BULLETS? I can't beleive Ensemble scrapped units like the cougar and the fox just to place these crappy excuses for vehicles in their game. The UNSC is great it's one of the best Sci-Fi governments ever invented but Halo Wars and all these Graphic novels are just killing the franchise why can't we have the same stories but in live action shorts or a short CG mini series done like the cutscens in Halo?

Since when do laser-firing weapons drop brass casings? SmokeSound off! 00:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Main Character

Who's the main character? Is it John Forge?--99.237.222.73 23:02, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

There's several. Forge, Profressor Anders, Captain Cutter, and the Arbiter.--Sgt.T.N.Biscuits 09:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

ATP2555 II

Maybe you should check the reason I reverted your edit the LAST time. Hint: It had nothing to do the infantry units. It's up to you to figure out the rest - and fix it before you add it. SmokeSound off! 04:10, November 22, 2009 (UTC)