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:I don't think so, I don't do it at least. Wikipedia doesn't do it either. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 21:51, 3 June 2016 (EDT)


Want to help out and make this site a better place?  [[:Category:Stubs|Here are a list of tasks that need to be done.]]
::I have noticed a few pages with it, but I do not know if there is a certain occasion one would use it. Oops forgot to sign my comment. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 23:52, 3 June 2016 (EDT)


==Halopedia Image Gallery==
:::[http://data.grammarbook.com/blog/numbers/writing-dates-and-times/ Here's a guide]. So basically, we don't use it at all. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 23:55, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
::::Per NightHammer, dates don't need those suffixes. Please remove them anytime you see them in an article.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 14:19, 4 June 2016 (EDT)


Just thinking that to really improve the space we need some more graphics like they have at [[w:c:starwars|Wookieepedia]].  A [[Halopedia Image Gallery|Halopedia Image Gallery]] has been created and I hope everyone can show off their Photoshop skills.
== Navigation section ==


==Think you know everything?==
Hey everyone, I feel like it may be time to update the Main Page navigation, as it's been the same now for a few years. I have two working draft ideas [[User:Spartacus/Sandbox|here]]. Do note the images on layout <nowiki>#</nowiki>2 are merely placeholders for now. Any feedback would be most appreciated, thanks.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2017 (EST)


So think you know everything about the Halo universe?  Well then you can help clear up Heretic lies from Gospel truth!  These [[:Category:Articles Needing Fact Cleanup|articles need proof!!]]   Please add sources or confirm that they are in fact lies told by the unbelievers!  Some examples:
:Definitely number one [[User:Japeth555|Japeth555]] ([[User talk:Japeth555|talk]]) 19:03, 27 February 2017 (EST)Japeth555


*What is a Kelorist?  See the Reference here [[Mamore]]
::Deffo number 1.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 19:24, 27 February 2017 (EST)


== Did you know? ==
::: #1 [[User:Lord Susto|<span style="color:orange">Lord Susto</span>]] 21:11, 27 February 2017 (EST)
We should also do a "Did you know?"--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 01:22, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, like "Did you know that ...." Just to help your point. --[[User:Ah2190|ah2190]] 07:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


== Firefox Halopedia Toolbar ==
::::Per above. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 23:18, 27 February 2017 (EST)


*Download it at [[Halopedia:Search Plugin]] --[[User:Doomguy0505|Doomguy0505]] 10:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
:''(reset indent)'' Agree with everyone else; the icons in the second version just take up space on the page for no real reason. The quotes under each section in #1 (e.g. "Explore the enigmatic universe!") are a bit cheesy, though that's just a minor thing. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 23:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
:*What does it do? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:30, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
::I left those quotes on there by mistake and just forgot to remove them. Just like everyone else, my preference is for the first format, more because it's less images to manage.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 23:49, 27 February 2017 (EST)
:*Here's a screenshot [http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hpediavj5.jpg http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8198/hpediavj5.th.jpg]<br />It's like the google toolbar --[[User:Doomguy0505|Doomguy0505]] 07:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


==Halopedia Clan==
==Menu page suggestions==
*Anyone interested in a Halo 2 clan for Halopedia, please post your gamertag. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 08:10, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I have a few notes that I thought of that should be relatively easy to make or change. All thanks to Spartacus's idea to change the navi bar.


:*I do as im told, Climax Void --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 12:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
1. Could we perhaps move the "Did You Know?" to the bottom moving up the "Article Improvement Drive". Makes the improvement area more clear so they ye know get done.


:*SWAHSparatn117--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 15:11, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
2. Small idea, borrowing it off Halo Nation of all places, a Monthly poll. Seems harmless enough.


::*It said that gamertag doesn't exist, so I sent an invite to SWAHSpartan117 instead. I hope that's you. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 22:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
3. Another idea, a featured image? Might be cool to start that. I mean we have featured everything else, might be cool to have that.


:::*It says it is on his user page, im surprised more people arnt interested in this Clan ---[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 14:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
4. Could we perhaps lower the "Welcome back, Reclaimer!" user count from 16 to 12?


:::*If anyone is interested in sending me an invite to the halopedia clan, I'd be most gracious. Gamertage-TayTayTheSarge [Love-A friend of a friend] -- [[User:CaptainAdamGraves]] 00:03, 11 November 2006
5. We need more Featured stuff to be nominated, that is something we can all work on fairly easy enough.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 19:24, 27 February 2017 (EST)
:*Digipatd--[[User:Digipatd|Digipatd]] 20:23, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
:1) I'd like to do that because of it's importance. 2) I don't know whether or not we have the code to do that. 3) A featured image is something I've wanted to for quite a while but have never gotten around to it. It would certainly be a nice addition. 4) That's fine with me. 5) Yeah, it just needs more promotion which is more or less up to the administration team. Thank you for the suggestions!--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup>  22:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)


::*Mine is '''Zarengo''' just like that, but i may not be online for a while cuz my x-box is not working, and is being repaired right now--[[User:Radzon|Radzon]] 06:43, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:As for your fifth point, I think we shouldn't just nominate articles because we need more featured articles. It should be based on articles that are legitimately worthy of it. I've been kinda pedantic with that lately and there is a handful of articles currently "featured" that I think could still use some work (including several I've nominated).


*Yeah thats me, it was just a typo, sorry...--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 08:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:I've considered the idea of having a featured content system similar to Wookieepedia, with "comprehensive" (for smaller articles under 250 words) and "good" articles (articles with a word count between comprehensive and featured articles, as opposed to Wikipedia's "good" articles which are simply lower in quality than featured articles). However, I feel like it would be difficult to maintain. And where do we draw the line for articles that can be considered "comprehensive" and articles that contain everything about a subject but are literally just one sentence and hard to consider "featured" worthy (in my opinion, [[Minister (planet)|Minister]] is a good example of a comprehensive article here). --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 23:18, 27 February 2017 (EST)


== Download all the custom gametypes in one file ==
::The "comprehensive" articles are definitely an idea worth considering. In general, different kinds of projects like this are great as long as they keep getting updated - it's good to keep in mind that Halopedia used to have all sorts of community activities in its heyday (like Halopedian of the Month, etc.) which have since gotten discontinued due to a lack of activity. Then again, our user base seems to have rebuilt itself somewhat after the dip that followed the domain change, so it may be worth a shot to try these kinds of things again. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 23:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
:::I wouldn't be opposed to any of that. In hindsight, killing Halopedian of the Month was an idea I now regret, as it was a way to reward users making outstanding contributions. I wouldn't mind trying to bring that back as long as it gets activity and is updated.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup>  11:32, 28 February 2017 (EST)


Download them at [http://gimehost.com/v/7738393/1163071574318.doc.html http://gimehost.com/v/7738393/1163071574318.doc.html]
::::I wouldn't mind bringing it back. I think the main issue is that there is probably only 12ish active users here, so it may end up just cycling between regulars. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 12:08, 28 February 2017 (EST)


==Where is the Plasma Mortar Article?==
(indent reset) *Now drum roll* I propose we bring back Halopedia Twitter and Facebook(alongside making Discord our main chat area), get more people to start to come here with the power of '''!!SOCIAL MEDIA!!'''. I mean the bigger presence we have, the more of a chance we get more people to come here.


*I think the covanant weapons page needs to be updated with a plasma mortar article like the one I created but that was deleted. -- {{unsigned|Leckgolo434}}
But(and this is a huge BUT), we have to start getting content that is "featured" so said Twitter, and Facebook has some base content to mention. Gets us something to drag people in and hopefully gets us a few new editors. And after awhile, we can start doing more with the Twitter and facebook, like "TodayinHalo", and competitions(with maybe prizes if we are able).-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 13:25, 28 February 2017 (EST)


== Pronunciation ==
:Absolutely, as long as there's someone willing to handle those social media accounts and keep them up to date. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 00:30, 1 March 2017 (EST)
::In order for it to work we'd need multiple users with access to these social media pages. I was given control of Halopedia's Facebook page about a year ago by Nicmavr. I try my best to update it regularly but it's too big of a task for just me to handle, so if anyone is interested in helping out, drop me a message here or on Discord and we can discuss it.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup>  11:52, 1 March 2017 (EST)


*I think hard to pronounce words should have how to pronounce words should have how to pronounce them in parenthisese.{{unsigned|Leckgolo434}}
In no particular relation to the above, except for the OP, I'm not sure the "Meet other Halo fans" widget is all that necessary or useful; I like that we have something to welcome users back, but how many people actually ever use the randomized user links? We could maybe keep, IDK, one or two rows of those if need be and maybe add something more generally useful to the template like info on ongoing projects, etc. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 12:31, 1 March 2017 (EST)
Ex. merine(mar-een) I can pronounce that but not sharquoi, only type it.
:Agreed, I'd rather just remove it completely given we already have a [[Halopedia:Halopedians|page]] better suited for that.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup> 12:39, 1 March 2017 (EST)
:Well, alien names we don't know how to pronounce because we've only seen them in text. Sharquoi I'd pronounce "shark-woy(rhymes with boy)", but that's not official. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 00:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::Oh, well I just wanted to know how to pronounce these things but if there not offitial...eh oh well. Thanks. Wait a minite I'm saying oh well alot aren't I...yeah I am.{{unsigned|Leckgolo434}}
*Hey, how would you pronounce Jirallhanae?--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophit of war]] 01:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[[User:69.152.233.196|69.152.233.196]] 01:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
**I pronounce it "jee-ral(rhymes with Paul)-hawn-ay", but that's an actual word in Korean, so I could be wrong. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 01:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
*Hows about Mjolnir eh? Some same its ma-jole-ner but people who know their Norse history say its Mee-ole-ner.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 2330 6.12.06
*It's mee-ol-nir. [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|HelmetComm]]</sup> 13:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
* Ill type it into one of those text talk things --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 13:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
==Covenant Ship Classifications==


We need to hammer out what is real and what isn'tIt's getting crazy with people making up ship classifications so please prove these exist in the Halo Universe:
::While waiting for a decision from the administration, I've linked the Halopedian project page to the Meet other Halo fans widget as a temporary solution.
::As for the above suggestions, please be informed that #1 and #4 has been taken care of. As for #2, we can bring back the montly poll. I believe this is still accessible in the wiki tools. For #3, we can do a featured image if we can do it along the lines of how Wikipedia does theirs (e.g. with good descriptions and proper attributions/credits/sourcing). I share the same opinion as Nighthammer in relation to #5. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 13:10, 1 March 2017 (EST)


*Holy hell. I know that's the biggest oxymoron of all time, BUT...wow. You're going insane killing these things. ESEMONO, I BEG YOU: READ THE BOOKS AND SEE FOR YOUR OWN EYES! Okay! I will provide your little page numbers later, but first...Cheersm '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
==Book Chapter vs Page numbers==
:That's all I want is page numbers, if they have page numbers they can stay. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I have a huge thing I wanna suggest. But its one of those things that really does need to be discussed cause its started to become a problem of recent years. That problem is the rising popularity in Digital media. That even some Halo Books start off as Digital media.
::Well, I've provided quite a few (and I apologize if my remarks sound heavily laced with sarcasm...it is probably because they are). I don't have my copy of [[Halo: The Fall of Reach]], so I won't be able to look them all up, but when UNSC AI #23 gets on tomorrow I'll have him cross reference for them.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 2312 6.12.06
:::No that's great! I'm so glad that someone is finally making an effort to hammer out what's real and what's not. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 10:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
*[[Assualt carrier/flagship]]
:*'''DELETE''' no proof has been brought forward.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
::*Umm... Didn't Chief and Fred capture one of these in FS?? [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color:"olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]][[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|HelmetComm]]</sup> 01:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:::*I believe you're refering to the [[Ascendant Justice]] which is a [[Covenant Assault Carrier]] that is listed as a Flagship because it was the lead ship. The term Flagship is just whatever ship is in charge of the fleet.  Flagship is not its own class of ship as any ship if it is in charge of the fleet can be a flagship. Often during a battle the flagship will change ships as vessels become damaged or destroyed -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
::::*Well, I don't think the ''Ascendant Justice'' is an Assault Carrier ... --'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1853 7.12.06
:::::*Please keep the debate to whether or not this article, [[Assualt carrier/flagship]] should exist or not.  I moved your arguement to the [[Talk:Covenant Assault Carrier]] page where you can discuss removing it from that article as its listed as being a [[Covenant Assault Carrier]].
*[[Covenant CAR-class Heavy Cruiser]]
:*'''DELETE''' no proof has been brought forward.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Further Investigation''' - You know, I don't understand you at all. This shoot first ask questions later style war you wage on Covenant ships is rather annoying. As for the CAR class, it is not mentioned in the book, but [[Transmissions|transmissions]] found on Bungie's site prior to Halo CE's release describes two ships as CAR class. It does now, however, state the type of ship. Thus, further investigation is needed.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1522 7.12.06
::*If I shot first and asked questions later these ships would be deleted and you would be trying to provide proof in order to recreate them.  As it stands I haven't shot anything.
::*As for the ship. In [[Transmissions|transmissions]] is states that the ''SCS Hermes II'' recieved a transmission from, "CAR Contrition (DE H c-5)".  So from that little quote we've determined the Contrition is: A) a Heavy Cruiser B)is 300 m to 1400 to 1782.2 m long C)Has 5 Plasma Turrets and laterally-mounted Pulse Lasers?  We know all that from, "CAR Contrition (DE H c-5)"? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
*[[Covenant Supercruiser]]
:*'''DELETE''' no proof has been brought forward.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
*[[Covenant Battleship]]
:*'''DELETE''' no known info about where this came from. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 22:18, 20 November 2006
:*'''Keep''' - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep'''- In halo the first strike, pg 32, It says: ''He saw the fant outlines of dozens of Covenant Battleships in low orbit''.[[User:Darth nexes|Admaral Sozai]]


*[[Covenant Flagship]]
Now why is this a problem you ask. Well it causes hell on the whole system we have where we say the Book name, then say the page it is on. As numerous formats might have some chapters being on radically different pages.  
:*'''Change Article''' This article should be changed from an article describing a '''TYPE''' of ship to a [[:Category:Terms and Phrases|Halo Terms and Phrases]] article.  Flagship is not a type of ship just the title of whatever ship is in charge of the fleet. If it is shown that the Covenant have their own type of ship that is called "Flagship Class" then this can be changed to reflect that -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 04:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Change Article''' - As per Esemono -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 04:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC) <s>'''Possible Correct''' might have been mentioned in the books but still no page number.-- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 06:32, 20 November 2006 (UTC)</s>
:*'''Keep''' - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' - Page 37, 54, and 155 of [[Halo: First Strike]], as well as several others that I am too lazy to look up, refer the the ''Ascendant Justice'' as a Covenant flagship, or just flagship. " ''A flagship,' the Chief murmured. 'Interesting.' -37, "The flagship was close. Too close." -54, "The Covenant flagship smoothly accelerated insystem." -155, " 'The fleet is curious why a Covenant flagship is here, but not suspicious enough to question our authority...' " -155, I figure these four should do.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 23:24 6.12.06
::*They same the name '''Flagship''' but is that a whole new class/size of ship or just an existing class/size of ship that has been designated the "Flagship".  [[User:RelentlessRecusant|RelentlessRecusant]] has "specifically" checked Halo: First Strike and stated that the flagship is '''TWO kilometers long''' Yet you state that the ''[[Ascendant Justice]]'' is a Flagship even though the ''Ascendant Justice'' is '''THREE kilometers long'''. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 10:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::*My understanding of flagships is that the flagship is just the one ship where the admiral is located usually, but not neccessarily the biggest ship in the fleet.  Often the flagship will change during the course of the battle as ships are damaged or destroyed.  Granted we're talking about an Alien species here.... -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 11:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:::*Perhaps...perhaps. I'll continue looking into it.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 1708 7.12.06
::::I think Sarge refers to it (Unyielding Hierophant) as the Uneven Elephant... [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|HelmetComm]]</sup> 15:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
*[[Covenant Carrier]]
:*'''DELETE''' no proof has been brought forward.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*Keep - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' - Turn with me now to page 195 of [[Halo: Ghosts of Onyx]]. There you will find this, "The carrier, the ''Lawgiver'', turned, and lasers stitched the frigate. Several beams painted its hull, heating the shields - before another destroyer crossed the line of fire." This is during a Covenant battle between Elite and Brute ships. There are no UNSC personnel present (except for the Prowler ''Dusk'' viewing from a distance). That's proof enough for me.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 2256 6.12.06
::*Does it say how big the Lawgiver is?  Cause this quote sounds like they just used the term Carrier as in short for [[Assault Carrier]] -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 11:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:::*Maybe so, but that would be speculating.--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]]''' 1528 7.12.06
::::*If we had more information we could make sure. I'm guessing there is no size given for the Lawgiver?-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:12, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


===Sources Provided===
Now I propose this possible method to change how we source a book. Throwing out the old method of page numbers on their own. We say the Book/Novella name as normal, but now we say the chapter instead. This ensures no matter what users can still find content if they wish. And in brackets we put the format used and the page in that format the item was found on.
Goodness gracious...this is one of the most titanic wastes of time ever, but I guess Rot and I will do it.


*[[Covenant CCS-class Battlecruiser]]
For example if I was wanting to source a SMAC in Halo the fall of reach 2001 paperback edition. I would put the following down.
:*'''Keep''' - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Possible Correct''' - HBO calls it an Covenant Battlecruiser in this [[:Image:UNSC-Covenant-scalechart4.gif|image]] but no mention of CCS-class-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' Proof offered [[Talk:Covenant CCS-class Battlecruiser|here]]. Esemono, you seem to be looking at the wrong ship in that image. HBO refers to it as a Battlecruiser. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 01:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
::*That's the name of the ship class, Covenant CCS-class '''Battlecruiser'''. So you're saying that there is a Battlecruiser AND a Covenant CCS-class Battlecruiser? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:::*No. It's just that you said "assault carrier", which is Regret's ship, and we're talking about the CCS-class, which is the ''Truth and Reconciliation'', refered to in the image as "Battlecruiser." --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 06:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
::::*Ahhhhhhh my bad I must of copied and pasted that from the Assault Crusier -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 11:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


*So just to clarify [[Covenant CCS-class Battlecruiser]] is  considered Cannon because of this quote:
'''[[Halo: The Fall of Reach]]''' ''-Chapter 33 (Physical paperback - Page 256'')


:"Our fighters are mopping up the last of their recon picket now, nothing serious. But, I've isolated approach signatures from multiple CCS battle groups; make it three capitol ships per group. And in about 90 seconds they'll be all over us" -Cortana, Pillar of Autumn level.  However there is no mention of the term Battlecruiser.
Like I did start to notice some folks were going though our sources and going, "I cant find it". Meaning something needs to be done.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 10:48, 2 March 2017 (EST)


:'''and'''
:I see what you mean, and I think the idea is splendid. Except I think we should tweak it just a little bit; After noting the chapter, a small excerpt where the relevant information is should be quoted as to save those who do not have the book - or those who would rather not read an entire chapter to read the sentence they are looking for - the time of trying to find a small part in a sometimes very large chapter. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 11:00, 2 March 2017 (EST)


:HBO calls the [[Truth and Reconciliation]] a Covenant Battlecruiser in this [[:Image:UNSC-Covenant-scalechart4.gif|image]] but no mention of CCS-class
::I believe there was some discussion about this a while back and I agree. The chapter thing would definitely be useful for more reasons than one, and we've already been identifying the early novel reissues and Google Play editions in sources for some time. Labeling every edition is just the logical next step from that. To avoid radically changing to our existing format, however, I'd make the new one something like the following:


:'''Combine with'''
::'''Halo: The Fall of Reach''', Chapter 15, ''page 77'' (2001 paperback); ''page 113'' (2010 paperback); ''page 4'' (Google Play)


The two above quotes are linked by the [[Transmissions]] where it stated that the, ''SCS Pillar of Autumn'' received a transmission from the "CCS Truth and Reconciliation (DE H c-1)" -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
::Basically, letting people add different formats based on their ability and interest. In practice, most sources would probably include just one. As for Arcmind's suggestion, quotes could be added after the page numbers like we've already been doing in some cases (see [[Banished#Sources]] for an example). --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 11:04, 2 March 2017 (EST)


*[[Covenant supercarrier]]
:::That's another great idea, but then you have some people who might not have access to all of the various versions of the book. I mean some might and I am sure there are man fans who will, but then the wiki would have some sourced completely and other would not, thereby causing a ripple in our consistency. It might work for most stuff since we all probably have it, but would it prove reliable in all situations? [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 11:08, 2 March 2017 (EST)
:<s>*'''DELETE''' no proof has been brought forward.</s> As shown by me moving the articles to the Proven section, I remove my Deleteion vote.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:::As per Rot. ''Halo: Ghosts of Onyx''.
:*'''Keep''' - One page 236 of [[Halo: Ghosts of Onyx]], you will note "The Unggoy Kwassass knew his pace aboard the Covenant supercarrier ''Sublime Transcendence''." Above this, in the chapter data log, it says "ABOARD FLEET CARRIER ''SUBLIME TRANSCENDENCE'', IN ORBIT ABOVE JOYOUS EXULTATION, SYSTEM SALIA". Thus, it can be concluded that not only is the supercarrier a Covenant warship, but it is also called the fleet carrier.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 2315 6.12.06
::*'''Keep''' - It's also mentioned in The Fall of Reach. I'll come back with pg. numbers soon. [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|HelmetComm]]</sup>
:::Supercarrier wasn't even mention in FoR. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 20:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
::*'''Keep''' - It is mentioned in halo first strike, on page# 338 ''Where they are recovered by hundreds of '''supercarriers''' and cruisers''[[User:Darth nexes|Admaral Sozai]]
*[[Covenant Frigate]]
:<s>*'''DELETE''' no proof has been brought forward.</s> As shown by me moving the articles to the Proven section, I remove my Deleteion vote.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*Keep - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:::See the Battle of Reach, Battle of Sigma Octanus IV, the Battle of Delta Halo in their appropriate books. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 20:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' - Keyes refers to some of the Covenant ships attacking Sigma Octanus IV as the equivalent of a UNSC frigate. After that, the ships are just refered to as Covenant frigates. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 01:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep'''- Turn with me now to page 192 of [[Halo: Ghosts of Onyx]]. It reads, "A holographic frigate pair appeared on the deck and sped towards them: the ''Tenebrous'' and the ''Twilight Compunction'', commanded by the alpha Jiralhanae, Gargantum." Then on 193, "The frigate pair split to miss the carrier in their flight path. The enemy ships, and their plasma torpedoes, became obscured by the bulb of the sleek carrier." just in case you thought they were UNSC frigates.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 2301 6.12.06
*[[Covenant light cruiser]]
:<s>*'''DELETE''' no proof has been brought forward.</s> As shown by me moving the articles to the Proven section, I remove my Deleteion vote.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' - Non-fanon. Two were in the depths of Reach's gravity well in that business w/ the ''Ascendant Justice''. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Strong Keep''' - Actually, if you would be so kind as to read [[Halo: First Strike]] page 167 for me. I believe the text goes something like..."Two exceptions to this patrol pattern were a pair of light cruisers hovering over Menachite Mountain" and earlier on page 167, to distinguish light from heavy, "There were a total of thirteen heavy cruisers and three carriers moving three hundred kilometers above the surface of the planet." You might want to double check before declaring something as false.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 17:59, 06 December 2006
::*Thank you for providing sources and page numbers!  Its users like you who make Halopedia a stronger more respected Halo database! -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
*[[Covenant CPV-class Destroyer]]
:*'''Confirmed''' - As shown in the [[Transmissions]]-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:As per Esemono. '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 20:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
*[[Covenant Assault Carrier]]
:*'''Possible Correct''' - HBO calls it an assault carrier in this [[:Image:UNSC-Covenant-scalechart4.gif|image]] -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 12:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
:*Keep - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Your word isn't proof, Halo sources please -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:::{{quote|I'm reading fifteen vessels inside the kill zone: two assault carriers, thirteen cruisers. I'm going loud!|[[Cortana]] during the [[First Battle of Earth]]}} Good enough?
*[[Reverence-class Medium Cruiser]]
:<s>*'''DELETE''' no known info about where this came from. </s> As shown by me moving the articles to the Proven section, I remove my Deleteion vote.-- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 22:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Keep''' - Non-fanon. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::*Still no proof provided that its NON-Fanon -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
:*'''Strong Keep''' - Would you be so kind as to read [[Halo: Ghosts of Onyx]] page 191 for me. I believe the text goes something like..."Voro resumed breathing. They were his now to command and send into battle. As was the Reverence-class cruiser ''Incorruptible''." Again, please double check before calling something false.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] 18:04, 06 December 2006
::*Thank you for providing sources, your contributions are highly valued! -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


And don't worry, Esemono. I'm keeping a sharp look over fanon ships. I am not purposely making up fanon, and if you check  the page histories, you'll see me reverting fanon stuff. Cheers,'''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 02:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::::I'm afraid it's just a reality we won't be able to consistently list every edition in our sources, but I'd say listing one or two is still better than having no page numbers at all, especially with specific information like measurements. Adding the chapter number (and ideally a quote) will at least point people in the right direction, while the pages (while not useful to everyone) are a definite plus. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 12:10, 2 March 2017 (EST)


==Ship Naming Scheme==
::::I understand. However in that case we should at least the pick the two most common versions that we should always use for our sources; a hard back - if possible - and a paperback version. That way we get the two most common types and the more exclusive editions will be left for folks to looks through. That should at least preserve a level of consistency in our sourcing an make things easier on us. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 12:39, 2 March 2017 (EST)


[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|RelentlessRecusant]] has been able to hack the article titles allowing special characters to be used to display the article name i.e. it's now possible to ilovebees all in lower characters.
:::::That should be preferred, but at the same time, not everyone can be expected to have access to even those two types of editions. I, for example, have only been buying the Google Play ebook versions since ''New Blood'' as they're more handy in most ways. So in practice most of our sources will still likely end up having only one source for page numbers, though listing the chapter number (and preferably quote in the case of specific information) will still improve things a lot compared to the current situation. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 13:25, 2 March 2017 (EST)


It has been proposed that for ships that we italicize the name. What is consenus with the naming convention?   Should we italicize the names?  Something else? -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 16:16, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::That sounds reasonable. Also, if you have ebooks, you would not happen to have the art of halo 3 would you? I ask because we we're looking for an image of the UNSC craft carrier but currently images for it are near non-existent and those that do are of poor quality. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 15:57, 2 March 2017 (EST)


For all ships, I recommend...''XYZ''-class Cruiser, ''ABC''-class Frigate, etc...for individual ship names, use: UNSC ''XYZ'', or for Covvie ships, use ''JKL''. This is standard naval terminology. To write a hyperlink to a UNSC ship within an article, insert:
:::::::Unfortunately I don't have ''The Art of Halo 3'' in any form. That book has been notoriously hard to come by for some years now, and I don't think a digital edition (or a reasonable-quality scan) exists. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 08:21, 3 March 2017 (EST)
<nowiki>{{UNSCShip|Ship Name Goes Here}}</nowiki>
For example, <nowiki>{{UNSCShip|In Amber Clad}}</nowiki> appears as {{UNSCShip|In Amber Clad}}.


== Come and Learn ==
== Dates in community news ==


Thats all I will do in the form of bringing people. I shall do nothing more, I am not a seeker. I am what is sought after.
The release date for Halo: Rise of Atriox Issue 1 needs to be changed from Aug 2 to Aug 30.--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 20:25, 3 August 2017 (EDT)d9328


'''Helen'''
== New arcade game called Halo team raven ==


-Current Mood; Annoyed and Humbled to an extent
I have never been good at doing articles I do small minor changes but never big ones but there is a new arcade game set in the first halo called team raven and it tells the story from there point of view.  Hopefully we can get a full review of its weapons and other content in the near future {{Unsigned|Spartan Matt}}
*'''[[User:CaptainAdamGraves]]'''


==Fanart==
== change article path ==
I propose that we not allow fanart on articles for which a screenshot can be obtained. That is, accept fanart for things from the novels and ILB, but not the video games because we can use a canon image. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 04:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:I agree.  If a picture exists you can't use FanArt but if there is no visual representation then DECENT fan art is OK.  If the community decides that one particular fan image is offensive, or stupid, then it shall be removed. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 13:52, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


== Weird permanent glitch in halo 2 ==
please can the article path be changed from <code>/$1</code> to <code>/wiki/$1</code>?


*For some unknown reason, the brute plasma rifle, covenant carbine, ghost and spectre and banshee's guns, warthog machine gun all suddenly have an increased firing rate.
the /wiki/$1 article path is better than this currently used.--[[user:PSL600|Psl600]] 14:35, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
:Never happened to me. Just to clarify, have you modded it? --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 05:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
::I never modded my xbox, though I wish I could--[[User:Doomguy0505|Doomguy0505]]
::The needler went so fast, that on Gravemind, I killed both brutes before cortana even '''starts''' to say "They don't have shield generators, but take them out before... he's berserking". I have no idea what triggered it --[[User:Doomguy0505|Doomguy0505]] 06:57, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Weird indeed. I suggest you try posting it at [http://www.highimpacthalo.org/forum/ High Impact Halo]; they might know of it. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 10:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


*The covenant elites have also been dummified, as in they cannot hear other covenant firing at you, which makes hitting them in the back really easy. Has anyone got this problem? --[[User:Doomguy0505|Doomguy0505]] 05:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:Why is it better? I'd like to know a reason behind why its better to be honest?-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 14:52, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
:: it i better because to know that it is the wiki, otherwise, i think it is non-wiki page, and if we still have <code>/$1</code> article path, typing <code>/wiki/$1</code> (example: http://www.halopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page)  will result landing on the "Wiki/Main_Page" and I want to land on "Main Page" without the "Wiki/" prefix. [[user:PSL600|Psl600]] 12:24, 4 September 2018 (EDT)


== Silent and Mute ==
== Fan content ==
It is rather troublesome to me, but I have made a penultimate decision.  
I think there should be an article about Halo FAN CONTENT! I would do this, but I am INEXPERIENCED at making articles.{{Unsigned|Cheatcodeman}}
:I'd recommend you take a look at our [[Halopedia:Notability_policy#Fan_content|existing guidelines]] on fanworks. We do allow articles on a very small number of fan works (such as [[Red vs. Blue]]) that are of substantial scale and notability within the franchise. However, due to the sheer amount of fan content out there, we typically very rarely allow for new fan project articles to be created (and as of recent, we've been re-evaluating which ones to keep or remove). I'd recommend checking out [https://halofanon.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page Halo Fanon] for more in the realm of fan content.[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 16:32, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
::What about fan Games? Are those Fine? --[[User:Cheatcodeman|Cheatcodeman]] ([[User talk:Cheatcodeman|talk]]) 16:37, May 27, 2021 (EDT)Cheatcodeman
:::Same deal - only rarely, if they can be proven to be of substantial scale within their space, and have been recognised by multiple news outlets (IE articles on sites such as PC Gamer, Kotaku, Polygon etc) or 343 themselves. We have pages dedicated to some mod projects such as OPTRE and SoTP that have recieved official recognition from 343 themselves, and have extensive media coverage outside of that. In the case of your game (which I would assume is what this is about), it would unfortunately not fall under these guidelines. [[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 16:43, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
::::Okay. Just making sure.;) didn't want to accidentally make an article about something that wasn't supposed to be there. --[[User:Cheatcodeman|Cheatcodeman]] ([[User talk:Cheatcodeman|talk]]) 16:57, May 27, 2021 (EDT)Cheatcodeman
:::::No worries, thanks for checking first. I'd also highly recommend joining the Discord server, as we have a pretty active userbase there too (link in the navigation bar on the left) [[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 16:58, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
There is an entire wiki for fan content. If you are talking about a display of works, such as Red vs Blue, there is a section on the Main page about it. The fan wiki is Halo Fanon. {{Unsigned|Sangheili4657}}


Because of the persistent efforts of several users that I will not identify, I am leaving Halopedia.
== RvB references ==


So, those that beleive I am detrimental, see who will expand your ship articles, make your templates, make articles that spawn because of newly released information.
I have looked TWICE, and I found nothing. Could I (or someone else, LOL) create an article on references to RvB in Halo? --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 19:16, May 29, 2021 (EDT)
:There is a section under the Red vs. Blue article [[Red_vs._Blue#Homage_from_the_Halo_series|here]]. <span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:JackVibe|<span style="color:#000;">Jack</span>]][[User talk:JackVibe|<span style="color:#888;">Vibe</span>]]'''</span> 05:58, May 30, 2021 (EDT)


When users vandalize the ship articles, who has the knowledge to judge if it is canon.
== I need a favor ==


And since you're the ones challenging what I've written, why don't ''you'' do and look it up?
I need some pictures/screenshots of the Halo: Reach armor permutations, at [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/540909659/ this] angle.


Oh, never mind. Just have fun.  Keep up the work. Sincerely, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 16:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Must be done ASAP. I only need the armor in sets, all but the helmets.
If someone could do that, I be thankful! Every picture will be used with credit. --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 20:12, June 7, 2021 (EDT)


:This is how the world ends... --[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] 2327 6.12.06
:Just a heads up that this area isnt for requests like this. It is for discussions on the wiki as a whole. It may be better to request help on more public spaces.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 20:42, June 7, 2021 (EDT)


==Inside the Halo Universe==
::What would you recommend? --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 12:37, June 8, 2021 (EDT)


Should we put the new ships article Inside the Halo Universe bit on the [[Main Page]] ? its big anoth and a whole differnt part of the Halo Universe --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 14:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
== Missing feature ==
:Once it's actually in a good state, definately. Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''[[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 20:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


== Banshee Builders ==
Halopedia has a missing feature that Wikipedia has, and that's the '''protected edit request'''. It posts something on the talk page like [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki talk:Anoneditwarning#Protected edit request on 8 September 2021|this]]. And when it's done, the person that did it would reply with {{Tem|Done}}. And when the request is posted, the section says "Protected edit request on example date". Please use {{Tem|Support}} if you think it's a good idea, and {{Tem|Oppose}} if you think it's a bad idea for whatever reason. [[User:EthanGaming117|EthanGaming7640]] ([[User talk:EthanGaming117|talk]]) 13:57, September 8, 2021 (EDT)


At my Wikipedia user page, I made an unofficial group called the Banshee Builders where members would do research on Halo Banshees (Possibly other vehicles), post the information gathered, and possibly even make something resembling a working Banshee some day. It would be interesting to other Halo fans and also make video game history. The link is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eiyuu_Kou. I hope this will grow into something special. Right now I need somebody to put it in a nice format and request its own page if it does well. I also used one of your pictures for the Banshee Builders' user box. If it is copyrighted, let me know what I must add to allow use of it. --[[User:69.239.175.29|69.239.175.29]] 22:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yea please dont put this stuff to a vote off the gate. We on the staff try to investigate stuff before we reach that stage. Assuming we dont just push it at that point.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 17:09, September 8, 2021 (EDT)
:The image is copyrighted. It is allowed on article pages under fair use, but Wikipedia does not allow such images on user pages. My suggestion is to just use the initials BB for your userbox. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 08:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


== Covenant Speak English? ==
== How do I create an article / page. ==


You know what I dont understand? How can the Covenant speak English! That makes no sense. At first I thought maybe when you play as the Covenant its just translated for gameplay reasons but how can Sergeant Johnson talk to the Arbiter? How did Tarturaus talk to Miranda Keyes? It seems reasonable that the Master Cheif can hear Covenant speak English cause Cortana would instantly translate it.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 07:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I cannot find any information or way to create a page. Help.
 
:The Covenant can speak English. This is clarified in the books. After destroying Harvest, they transmit a message in English: "Your destruction is the will of the gods, and we are their instrument." However, the stuff in High Charity is most likely just preformed in English for the sake of the gamer. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 08:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 
::And in battle, when they revert to their native languages, Master Chief has translation software uploaded into his neural grid. This is why "BLAAAARGH!" can be understood as "I've been shot!" [[User:Spartan-091|<b><span style="color: olivedrab">SPARTAN-091</span></b>]] [[Image:UNSC.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan-091|HelmetComm]]</sup> 14:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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Dates[edit]

Should dates on articles have the rd, th, nd, and st, or should we not do that on articles? Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 21:47, 3 June 2016 (EDT)

I don't think so, I don't do it at least. Wikipedia doesn't do it either. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 21:51, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
I have noticed a few pages with it, but I do not know if there is a certain occasion one would use it. Oops forgot to sign my comment. Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 23:52, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
Here's a guide. So basically, we don't use it at all. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 23:55, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
Per NightHammer, dates don't need those suffixes. Please remove them anytime you see them in an article.--Spartacus TalkContribs 14:19, 4 June 2016 (EDT)

Navigation section[edit]

Hey everyone, I feel like it may be time to update the Main Page navigation, as it's been the same now for a few years. I have two working draft ideas here. Do note the images on layout #2 are merely placeholders for now. Any feedback would be most appreciated, thanks.--Spartacus TalkContribs 18:44, 27 February 2017 (EST)

Definitely number one Japeth555 (talk) 19:03, 27 February 2017 (EST)Japeth555
Deffo number 1.-CIA391 (talk) 19:24, 27 February 2017 (EST)
#1 Lord Susto 21:11, 27 February 2017 (EST)
Per above. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 23:18, 27 February 2017 (EST)
(reset indent) Agree with everyone else; the icons in the second version just take up space on the page for no real reason. The quotes under each section in #1 (e.g. "Explore the enigmatic universe!") are a bit cheesy, though that's just a minor thing. --Jugus (talk) 23:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
I left those quotes on there by mistake and just forgot to remove them. Just like everyone else, my preference is for the first format, more because it's less images to manage.--Spartacus TalkContribs 23:49, 27 February 2017 (EST)

Menu page suggestions[edit]

I have a few notes that I thought of that should be relatively easy to make or change. All thanks to Spartacus's idea to change the navi bar.

1. Could we perhaps move the "Did You Know?" to the bottom moving up the "Article Improvement Drive". Makes the improvement area more clear so they ye know get done.

2. Small idea, borrowing it off Halo Nation of all places, a Monthly poll. Seems harmless enough.

3. Another idea, a featured image? Might be cool to start that. I mean we have featured everything else, might be cool to have that.

4. Could we perhaps lower the "Welcome back, Reclaimer!" user count from 16 to 12?

5. We need more Featured stuff to be nominated, that is something we can all work on fairly easy enough.-CIA391 (talk) 19:24, 27 February 2017 (EST)

1) I'd like to do that because of it's importance. 2) I don't know whether or not we have the code to do that. 3) A featured image is something I've wanted to for quite a while but have never gotten around to it. It would certainly be a nice addition. 4) That's fine with me. 5) Yeah, it just needs more promotion which is more or less up to the administration team. Thank you for the suggestions!--Spartacus TalkContribs 22:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
As for your fifth point, I think we shouldn't just nominate articles because we need more featured articles. It should be based on articles that are legitimately worthy of it. I've been kinda pedantic with that lately and there is a handful of articles currently "featured" that I think could still use some work (including several I've nominated).
I've considered the idea of having a featured content system similar to Wookieepedia, with "comprehensive" (for smaller articles under 250 words) and "good" articles (articles with a word count between comprehensive and featured articles, as opposed to Wikipedia's "good" articles which are simply lower in quality than featured articles). However, I feel like it would be difficult to maintain. And where do we draw the line for articles that can be considered "comprehensive" and articles that contain everything about a subject but are literally just one sentence and hard to consider "featured" worthy (in my opinion, Minister is a good example of a comprehensive article here). --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 23:18, 27 February 2017 (EST)
The "comprehensive" articles are definitely an idea worth considering. In general, different kinds of projects like this are great as long as they keep getting updated - it's good to keep in mind that Halopedia used to have all sorts of community activities in its heyday (like Halopedian of the Month, etc.) which have since gotten discontinued due to a lack of activity. Then again, our user base seems to have rebuilt itself somewhat after the dip that followed the domain change, so it may be worth a shot to try these kinds of things again. --Jugus (talk) 23:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
I wouldn't be opposed to any of that. In hindsight, killing Halopedian of the Month was an idea I now regret, as it was a way to reward users making outstanding contributions. I wouldn't mind trying to bring that back as long as it gets activity and is updated.--Spartacus TalkContribs 11:32, 28 February 2017 (EST)
I wouldn't mind bringing it back. I think the main issue is that there is probably only 12ish active users here, so it may end up just cycling between regulars. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 12:08, 28 February 2017 (EST)

(indent reset) *Now drum roll* I propose we bring back Halopedia Twitter and Facebook(alongside making Discord our main chat area), get more people to start to come here with the power of !!SOCIAL MEDIA!!. I mean the bigger presence we have, the more of a chance we get more people to come here.

But(and this is a huge BUT), we have to start getting content that is "featured" so said Twitter, and Facebook has some base content to mention. Gets us something to drag people in and hopefully gets us a few new editors. And after awhile, we can start doing more with the Twitter and facebook, like "TodayinHalo", and competitions(with maybe prizes if we are able).-CIA391 (talk) 13:25, 28 February 2017 (EST)

Absolutely, as long as there's someone willing to handle those social media accounts and keep them up to date. --Jugus (talk) 00:30, 1 March 2017 (EST)
In order for it to work we'd need multiple users with access to these social media pages. I was given control of Halopedia's Facebook page about a year ago by Nicmavr. I try my best to update it regularly but it's too big of a task for just me to handle, so if anyone is interested in helping out, drop me a message here or on Discord and we can discuss it.--Spartacus TalkContribs 11:52, 1 March 2017 (EST)

In no particular relation to the above, except for the OP, I'm not sure the "Meet other Halo fans" widget is all that necessary or useful; I like that we have something to welcome users back, but how many people actually ever use the randomized user links? We could maybe keep, IDK, one or two rows of those if need be and maybe add something more generally useful to the template like info on ongoing projects, etc. --Jugus (talk) 12:31, 1 March 2017 (EST)

Agreed, I'd rather just remove it completely given we already have a page better suited for that.--Spartacus TalkContribs 12:39, 1 March 2017 (EST)
While waiting for a decision from the administration, I've linked the Halopedian project page to the Meet other Halo fans widget as a temporary solution.
As for the above suggestions, please be informed that #1 and #4 has been taken care of. As for #2, we can bring back the montly poll. I believe this is still accessible in the wiki tools. For #3, we can do a featured image if we can do it along the lines of how Wikipedia does theirs (e.g. with good descriptions and proper attributions/credits/sourcing). I share the same opinion as Nighthammer in relation to #5. — subtank 13:10, 1 March 2017 (EST)

Book Chapter vs Page numbers[edit]

I have a huge thing I wanna suggest. But its one of those things that really does need to be discussed cause its started to become a problem of recent years. That problem is the rising popularity in Digital media. That even some Halo Books start off as Digital media.

Now why is this a problem you ask. Well it causes hell on the whole system we have where we say the Book name, then say the page it is on. As numerous formats might have some chapters being on radically different pages.

Now I propose this possible method to change how we source a book. Throwing out the old method of page numbers on their own. We say the Book/Novella name as normal, but now we say the chapter instead. This ensures no matter what users can still find content if they wish. And in brackets we put the format used and the page in that format the item was found on.

For example if I was wanting to source a SMAC in Halo the fall of reach 2001 paperback edition. I would put the following down.

Halo: The Fall of Reach -Chapter 33 (Physical paperback - Page 256)

Like I did start to notice some folks were going though our sources and going, "I cant find it". Meaning something needs to be done.-CIA391 (talk) 10:48, 2 March 2017 (EST)

I see what you mean, and I think the idea is splendid. Except I think we should tweak it just a little bit; After noting the chapter, a small excerpt where the relevant information is should be quoted as to save those who do not have the book - or those who would rather not read an entire chapter to read the sentence they are looking for - the time of trying to find a small part in a sometimes very large chapter. stickArcmind Execute long hold for reactivation. stick AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF 11:00, 2 March 2017 (EST)
I believe there was some discussion about this a while back and I agree. The chapter thing would definitely be useful for more reasons than one, and we've already been identifying the early novel reissues and Google Play editions in sources for some time. Labeling every edition is just the logical next step from that. To avoid radically changing to our existing format, however, I'd make the new one something like the following:
Halo: The Fall of Reach, Chapter 15, page 77 (2001 paperback); page 113 (2010 paperback); page 4 (Google Play)
Basically, letting people add different formats based on their ability and interest. In practice, most sources would probably include just one. As for Arcmind's suggestion, quotes could be added after the page numbers like we've already been doing in some cases (see Banished#Sources for an example). --Jugus (talk) 11:04, 2 March 2017 (EST)
That's another great idea, but then you have some people who might not have access to all of the various versions of the book. I mean some might and I am sure there are man fans who will, but then the wiki would have some sourced completely and other would not, thereby causing a ripple in our consistency. It might work for most stuff since we all probably have it, but would it prove reliable in all situations? stickArcmind Execute long hold for reactivation. stick AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF 11:08, 2 March 2017 (EST)
I'm afraid it's just a reality we won't be able to consistently list every edition in our sources, but I'd say listing one or two is still better than having no page numbers at all, especially with specific information like measurements. Adding the chapter number (and ideally a quote) will at least point people in the right direction, while the pages (while not useful to everyone) are a definite plus. --Jugus (talk) 12:10, 2 March 2017 (EST)
I understand. However in that case we should at least the pick the two most common versions that we should always use for our sources; a hard back - if possible - and a paperback version. That way we get the two most common types and the more exclusive editions will be left for folks to looks through. That should at least preserve a level of consistency in our sourcing an make things easier on us. stickArcmind Execute long hold for reactivation. stick AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF 12:39, 2 March 2017 (EST)
That should be preferred, but at the same time, not everyone can be expected to have access to even those two types of editions. I, for example, have only been buying the Google Play ebook versions since New Blood as they're more handy in most ways. So in practice most of our sources will still likely end up having only one source for page numbers, though listing the chapter number (and preferably quote in the case of specific information) will still improve things a lot compared to the current situation. --Jugus (talk) 13:25, 2 March 2017 (EST)
That sounds reasonable. Also, if you have ebooks, you would not happen to have the art of halo 3 would you? I ask because we we're looking for an image of the UNSC craft carrier but currently images for it are near non-existent and those that do are of poor quality. stickArcmind Execute long hold for reactivation. stick AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF 15:57, 2 March 2017 (EST)
Unfortunately I don't have The Art of Halo 3 in any form. That book has been notoriously hard to come by for some years now, and I don't think a digital edition (or a reasonable-quality scan) exists. --Jugus (talk) 08:21, 3 March 2017 (EST)

Dates in community news[edit]

The release date for Halo: Rise of Atriox Issue 1 needs to be changed from Aug 2 to Aug 30.--D9328 (talk) 20:25, 3 August 2017 (EDT)d9328

New arcade game called Halo team raven[edit]

I have never been good at doing articles I do small minor changes but never big ones but there is a new arcade game set in the first halo called team raven and it tells the story from there point of view. Hopefully we can get a full review of its weapons and other content in the near future —This unsigned comment was made by Spartan Matt (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

change article path[edit]

please can the article path be changed from /$1 to /wiki/$1?

the /wiki/$1 article path is better than this currently used.--Psl600 14:35, 3 September 2018 (EDT)

Why is it better? I'd like to know a reason behind why its better to be honest?-CIA391 (talk) 14:52, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
it i better because to know that it is the wiki, otherwise, i think it is non-wiki page, and if we still have /$1 article path, typing /wiki/$1 (example: http://www.halopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page) will result landing on the "Wiki/Main_Page" and I want to land on "Main Page" without the "Wiki/" prefix. Psl600 12:24, 4 September 2018 (EDT)

Fan content[edit]

I think there should be an article about Halo FAN CONTENT! I would do this, but I am INEXPERIENCED at making articles.—This unsigned comment was made by Cheatcodeman (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I'd recommend you take a look at our existing guidelines on fanworks. We do allow articles on a very small number of fan works (such as Red vs. Blue) that are of substantial scale and notability within the franchise. However, due to the sheer amount of fan content out there, we typically very rarely allow for new fan project articles to be created (and as of recent, we've been re-evaluating which ones to keep or remove). I'd recommend checking out Halo Fanon for more in the realm of fan content.BaconShelf (talk) 16:32, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
What about fan Games? Are those Fine? --Cheatcodeman (talk) 16:37, May 27, 2021 (EDT)Cheatcodeman
Same deal - only rarely, if they can be proven to be of substantial scale within their space, and have been recognised by multiple news outlets (IE articles on sites such as PC Gamer, Kotaku, Polygon etc) or 343 themselves. We have pages dedicated to some mod projects such as OPTRE and SoTP that have recieved official recognition from 343 themselves, and have extensive media coverage outside of that. In the case of your game (which I would assume is what this is about), it would unfortunately not fall under these guidelines. BaconShelf (talk) 16:43, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
Okay. Just making sure.;) didn't want to accidentally make an article about something that wasn't supposed to be there. --Cheatcodeman (talk) 16:57, May 27, 2021 (EDT)Cheatcodeman
No worries, thanks for checking first. I'd also highly recommend joining the Discord server, as we have a pretty active userbase there too (link in the navigation bar on the left) BaconShelf (talk) 16:58, May 27, 2021 (EDT)

There is an entire wiki for fan content. If you are talking about a display of works, such as Red vs Blue, there is a section on the Main page about it. The fan wiki is Halo Fanon. —This unsigned comment was made by Sangheili4657 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

RvB references[edit]

I have looked TWICE, and I found nothing. Could I (or someone else, LOL) create an article on references to RvB in Halo? --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 19:16, May 29, 2021 (EDT)

There is a section under the Red vs. Blue article here. JackVibe 05:58, May 30, 2021 (EDT)

I need a favor[edit]

I need some pictures/screenshots of the Halo: Reach armor permutations, at this angle.

Must be done ASAP. I only need the armor in sets, all but the helmets. If someone could do that, I be thankful! Every picture will be used with credit. --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 20:12, June 7, 2021 (EDT)

Just a heads up that this area isnt for requests like this. It is for discussions on the wiki as a whole. It may be better to request help on more public spaces.-CIA391 (talk) 20:42, June 7, 2021 (EDT)
What would you recommend? --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 12:37, June 8, 2021 (EDT)

Missing feature[edit]

Halopedia has a missing feature that Wikipedia has, and that's the protected edit request. It posts something on the talk page like this. And when it's done, the person that did it would reply with {{Done}}. And when the request is posted, the section says "Protected edit request on example date". Please use {{Support}} if you think it's a good idea, and {{Oppose}} if you think it's a bad idea for whatever reason. EthanGaming7640 (talk) 13:57, September 8, 2021 (EDT)

Yea please dont put this stuff to a vote off the gate. We on the staff try to investigate stuff before we reach that stage. Assuming we dont just push it at that point.-CIA391 (talk) 17:09, September 8, 2021 (EDT)

How do I create an article / page.[edit]

I cannot find any information or way to create a page. Help.