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Spartan Companies

Don't know if everyone has seen this already, but 343 have created what is essentially an official clan system for Halo 5. See Frankie's announcement HERE and a breif overview HERE. Basically it's a service that lets you create a group through which to organise things through a group forum. Companies have a 100 person limit, and you can only be part of one at a time. Creating one or joining one will give you a free REQ pack. To become active you need to have at least four people in a Spartan company. Alongside this they have also added a Spartan customisation feature on Waypoint so you can customise your multiplayer Spartan outside of the game.--Soul reaper (talk) 02:12, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

You also get a REQ pack for the first time being in an active (+4 member) company. I created my company as soon as the feature was released and managed to snatch a valuable name. Anyway, I'm in the process of taking screenshots of every single armor, visor, and color for upload. Expect a huge dump of images in an hour or two.--Ender the Xenocide 02:19, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

The community has been asking for something like this for quite a while, so I'm glad this is finally happening. My only strike against it is that you can only be in one company at a time, but I guess they have a reason for it.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 11:02, 20 October 2015 (EDT)

Story

Do not worry, I am not going to say any spoilers, I just want to say. What. The. ****. I am just... speechless as to what just happened in the campaign, anyone else? I literally felt my heart stop for a second when I got the legendary ending.Alertfiend - Team Chief 05:20, 26 October 2015 (EDT)

Without spoiling anything, I loved the campaign. I thought it was probably the best since ODST. I have no idea what certain reviews complaining about a weak campaign are talking about, except that maybe they weren't paying attention to it. Osiris works well, and Blue Team are a thrill to see, if sparingly. The story satisfies everything I want a Halo story to be, and introduces a few new major players. There is one new character who is really cute, and I hope she returns for future games. You'll know them when you see them. I watched a playthrough, rather than playing the game, but it looks really, really fun. The Prometheans retooling seems to have worked rather well, and the Spartan Abilities are really nice new tools in the sandbox. -- Qura 'Morhek ^{The Autocrat} ^{of Morheka} 22:36, 26 October 2015 (EDT)

Yeah, I think I know who she is you are referring to, I hope for that as well. Alertfiend - Team Chief 22:53, 26 October 2015 (EDT)

I second everything you said, Qura 'Morhek, and I definitely think the complaints I've been seeing are either lack of understanding, or that due to lack of paying attention; any gripes I have with the campaign are few, far between, and not really worth noting. All too often people judge stories based on their own preconceptions that they can't get overlook; they've already decided what the story should be, and if it's not that then clearly it's a crap story. :/ Personally, I expected more or less exactly what happened, both in this story and the setup for the future. Alex T Snow (talk) 15:44, 27 October 2015 (EDT)

I'm also in the category of flabbergasted. I've never been truly surprised before with a Halo campaign, but this is a first, and damn, is it satisfying. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it, honestly. I played through it first on Easy, for the story, and I'll be doing a Legendary run soon, but damn, I almost didn't want it to end. Makes me wonder what Halo 6 will bring to the table, with a certain someone as the new antagonist, a new monitor ally (who is absolutely adorable in my opinion), and with the Warden still active, its going to be quite the story. Now, we just have to wait 3 more years to continue the story, and until then, to Warzone. Siphon 117 17:54, 27 October 2015 (EDT)

(Please don't kill me) Story strength-wise I would call Halo 5 the Age of Ultron of the Reclaimer Saga; it's definitely good, but not great. I liked the story overall, but there were parts that I felt should have been expanded on a bit more (For the sake of spoilers, I'll list them when the spoiler-ban no longer applies) Yoonhyuk-740 10:20PM EST, October 27th, 2015.

As far as I know, our spoilers policy is that, if it's officially out in the wild, it's fair game. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I posted a plot synopsis for Halo 5 on this basis, and if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate correction so I can remove that.

I would agree with that comparison in that, like Age of Ultron, a lot of people are jumping on small issues that I could easily forgive. My brother had serious problems with Halo 4's campaign and how you needed to read the books to make heads or tails of it. He sent me a message this morning, telling me only that it is "brilliant," so I can only assume he didn't have those issues this time around, which I am glad.

As for the future, I'm excited for the possibilities this opens up. Regarding Warden Eternal: we all, I think, expected the Didact to have survived being Composed. I kind of expected the Warden to turn out to be the Didact in a new body. Now imagine a composed Didact, in a hulking Promethean body, fighting the Warden for control of this new faction seeking the Mantle. Now imagine the UNSC and Swords of Sanghelios launching a united strike during this internecine conflict, to take out or capture Cortana. Heck, we see Covenant in the game who think Genesis was "promised by the Prophets" - they could see these Guardians as the return of their "Gods" and begin to revive, after the disasters on Kamchatka and Sanghelios, in service to their new AI overlords. And having a large, diverse, interesting roster of characters, setting them all on the run, and teasing the involvement of a Halo in the future.

We've seen concept art of Thorne on Fireteam Osiris. I do have to wonder, was the original plan for Osiris to be Majestic? I can definitely understand replacing them, even with the original plan to keep Thorne, who is the only character Spartan Ops introduced that I like and who has earned the right, in my book, to call himself Spartan material. I do wonder what 343 plan to do with Majestic in the future, now that Osiris is their "primary" S-IV team. Will they be kept to future comics? A book series? A retooled Spartan Ops campaign? -- Qura 'Morhek ^{The Autocrat} ^{of Morheka} 23:02, 27 October 2015 (EDT)

I've been gone for quite some time; I'll get to that later in another forum soon. For now, I came across someone who has played the game and has pretty good explanations for why Halo 5's campaign is "weak", or bad. Mind you, I don't have the game and have yet to get a XboxOne (was planning on getting a XboxOne S but that may be delayed now). However, after watching these videos, I have to agree with him and have learned a lot more about Halo 5 that has made me very disappointed in the direction 343i has taken the series. The first video highlights an issue that I've been having with the expanded material 343i has been releasing long before Halo 5 was released. In fact I stopped buying escalation issues (can't remember what issue I stopped at), so I'm seriously behind. But at this point of time it doesn't matter. I'll get into later. For now here are the videos:

Angry Joe H5 Extended Review

Please watch all four parts (they'll be a part 5 whenever he post it) for a thorough explanation as to why Halo 5's campaign is bad before commenting.--Killamin7i /// 09:26, 11 October 2016 (EDT)

Cutscene Inconsistencies

Not real sure how many have noticed it, and its not really an issue, but in both the intro and ending cutscenes to the first mission of the game, we get shown Fireteam Osiris kicking ass, and taking names. Nothing wrong with that, but I noticed something, and its been bugging me ever since. Vale. In both the beginning cutscene (when she boards a phantom, and engages a elite in close combat) and ending cutscene (where she humiliates an elite so bad, he falls head first off a cliff) to the first mission, she is shown using a Magnum. Now, ordinarily, I'd have no issue with that, but we all know that her standard loadout is a SMG and a plasma pistol so, where is this magnum coming from? Now, I know its possible that ALL Spartans can carry a extra magnum on their person, but still, it just bothered me. That's the only one that really stuck out to me, but do you guys find any other inconsistencies with th4e cutscenes in the game, and tell me what you think of them (including the one I found). Siphon 117 18:22, 3 November 2015 (EST)

She had a magnum when the cut scene started, Tanaka handed her one so that is not an inconsistency. Alertfiend - Team Chief 19:38, 3 November 2015 (EST)

Must have missed it, but still when you start the game, you have a SMG and a Plasma pistol, no magnum in sight. But as I said, not really a problem. Siphon 117 20:23, 3 November 2015 (EST)

She could have easily ran out of ammo and picked up a plasma pistol from one of the two dead Jackals. Alertfiend - Team Chief 20:41, 3 November 2015 (EST)

Okay, and? She starts off EVERY mission with a SMG and a Plasma Pistol, including the 4rth and 5th mission, which hasn't a single covenant in sight. Explain that one. Siphon 117 22:50, 3 November 2015 (EST)

Plasma weaponry is (apparently) easy to recharge, considering how she only has a SMG, she would find a use for the noob combo with the PP and SMG, or since she has an interest in Sangheili culture and language, she modified her own armour to hold both PP and a magnum, who can truthfully say? Alertfiend - Team Chief 22:53, 3 November 2015 (EST)

Still, it just seems off that in almost every other occasion, she is seen with the SMG and Plasma Pistol, but in the 2 opening cutscenes, she uses a Magnum. As I've said already, not really an issue, but why would she have a magnum if her loadout is a SMG and a Plasma Pistol? Anyway, it doesn't matter, just something I thought would be interesting to note. Siphon 117 23:01, 3 November 2015 (EST)

The weapons are generally inconsistent in cutscenes, often not having any attachments at all (meaning scopes), and Kelly and Linda's randomly do and don't have their paint schemes. There's also Locke losing his BR then having it next time they're in gameplay. Or Chief having full ammo right after boarding Argent Moon, something they actually did right in ODST. On the flip side, Osiris actually has different weapons than normal in the first mission just so they can line up with the opening cutscene properly, which is nice. Alex T Snow (talk) 01:20, 5 November 2015 (EST)

Cortana's Motivation, and possible corruption

I'm sure I'm not the only one to think that the ending of Halo 5 is, shall I say, disconcerting, and more importantly, confusing. Why does Cortana suddenly want to control the galaxy, even going so far as to put Chief and Blue team into a cryptum for 10,000 years to secure her rule. I have a theory, and its already been discussed in a video. Link: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jPoZQxwC5U/>

I'm not going to repeat everything said in the video, but he does bring up good points, and is, as far as I'm concerned, a very plausible theory. Of course, at this point, its just a theory, so I'll leave it at that. I myself don't have much else to say on the topic, what do you guys think? Ideas, theories of your own, anything that may make any sense. Siphon 117 17:57, 6 December 2015 (EST)

The video's theory is flawed. I have also see these theories before. Alertfiend - Team Chief 18:08, 6 December 2015 (EST)

Aaaaannnnnndddddd? Anything else to say, or that it? I never said it was flawless, just that it has good points.Siphon 117 20:10, 6 December 2015 (EST)

In the game they made it seem like the reason Cortana decided to attempt to take control of the galaxy was because she could now do "long term planning" just as the Forerunners did. Halsey showed her concern over what Cortana might do with this power since she is basically a digital clone of Halsey (further reinforcing the idea that Cortana is not corrupted and has always wanted to do this but lacked the capability). We don't understand exactly how AI technology works in the Haloverse, but in the real world computers run on a series of algorithms and it's really not possible for a program to disobey or change their programming. But Cortana is unique. We know that Cortana was constructed from living tissue meaning that her programming (decision making, thinking, etc.) is much more similar to a human being. But human beings are still a series of algorithms, the only difference is that our algorithms tell us to serve ourselves (self preservation) while a computer program just does whatever its creators tell it to do.

With all that said, the theory still brings up a good point about the Domain and the fact that it isn't destroyed. So let's list a few things before we consider the possibilities. Firstly, we know that the Forerunners aren't extinct and that a sizable amount survived the halo rings taking refuge inside shield worlds. We can only assume that they have since left the galaxy (perhaps they discovered new slipspace technology that could allow them to travel to the Andromeda galaxy or perhaps they finally figured out how to use the composer on themselves without leaving them deformed or corrupted). Secondly, we know that the Precursors also aren't extinct. Maybe this is more or less debatable but as far as I'm concerned, the Precursors ARE Flood and the Flood aren't extinct. Thirdly, the Domain isn't a physical construct with a physical location, meaning it can be accessed anywhere--including outside the range of the halo rings. This could mean that only the data uploaded to the Domain from the Milky Way was destroyed, and the Domain in this part of the universe was wiped clean (but not destroyed).

So as to whether or not the Forerunners or the Precursors installed a logic plague in the Domain in order to corrupt Cortana to take control of the galaxy, it's certainly a valid possibility, it's just that I can't imagine why either would do this. To be fair, the Precursors do make extremely complex plans that are not at all easy to predict. But until I can see better evidence or reasoning I'm just going to assume Cortana changed on her own accord. Though I will admit that there is something off about the entire thing. The rest of the lore in the universe is all leading to a huge reveal about the Forerunners or Precursors so it's really not crazy to think that there's more to what's happening to Cortana than simply the fact that she wants to take control. -- Dustin Nugget (talk) 05:05, 7 December 2015 (EST)

Somewhat related... has anyone tried asking Cortana why she acted the way she did? — subtank 10:44, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Nothing on Google from what I've found, and I can't ask her myself. I'll ask around on Waypoint. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 15:01, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Aw, apparently she just responds with a web search. Unless that's somehow part of her nefarious plan... Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 16:23, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Maybe they are waiting a bit before they do something with it so they don't spoil it... crosses fingers. --NightHammer^(talk)^(contribs) 22:44, 10 December 2015 (EST)

Apparently phone Cortana might be awakening. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 22:29, 6 March 2016 (EST)

I heard it suggested once that that was the same tune 343 hummed. Any clues there? --Weeping Angel (talk) 22:27, 5 January 2016 (EST)

It isn't. It is the song from the very beginning of the game, however. --Japeth555 (talk) 23:07, 5 January 2016 (EST)

This is the specific song. -- Qura 'Morhek ^{The Autocrat} ^{of Morheka} 00:15, 6 January 2016 (EST)

That must be a fun thing to link on articles. But more on subject I still like the theory that the Cortana we see in H5G is just her rampant personality spikes reformed into one being by Friendzone Eternal.Sith Venator

(Dank Memes) 00:23, 6 January 2016 (EST)

Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up. I really should have gotten that Debussy reference. --Weeping Angel (talk) 12:31, 6 January 2016 (EST)

So, guys, here's possible evidence pointing towards Cortana being infected by the Logic Plague. Link: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNU2ZeAi-Vw>

First, watch the video all the way through, then come back here, and post your comments. Anyway, this, which is official content (albeit, from a not so well known source), very heavily points towards Cortana being infected with Logic Plague, which has been speculated for awhile now. What do you guys think? Siphon 117 22:56, 30 November 2017 (EST)

Bastion

Any idea what the Bastion in the Mission Intel is or what it means for the future? --Weeping Angel (talk) 12:37, 6 January 2016 (EST)

You have access to the same amount of information regarding Bastion, a Forerunner was looking for it and it might be a person if I remember correctly. Alertfiend - Team Chief 17:57, 6 January 2016 (EST)

Mmmkay. I was afraid I'd missed something. I haven't read the recent novels or comics.--Weeping Angel (talk) 21:54, 6 January 2016 (EST)

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-==MC Hood==
-Think this is necessary. So, why wear a hood if you have a energy-shielded titanium armor? Does this indicate the armor is malfunctioning and that Chief will be getting a new one, or is it simply for the reveal? Also, looks like ragged hood will be an armor permutation/skin addon... <small>(joking of course)</small> Finally, that E3 trailer still fails to impress me to get the always-online Xbone.  — [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 22:43, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
-:Well, sand is very bad for anything with moving parts, and even worse when it's blowing (like a sand blaster), so it's protection for the suit, which is already damaged. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 04:04, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-Well, if he has the suit, he's probably still part of the UNSC, since I doubt they'd still let him go running around with it if he's retired. And I doubt that the UNSC would send him anywhere that required the Mjonir without having it at least repaired, if not replaced. If the suit is fully operational, the energy shielding should take care of the sand well enough.
-I don't know why, but it seemed to me like it was more a kind of camouflage, if not to blend in, at least to conceal the fact that he's a Spartan II. Maybe I'm just dead wrong, though. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 09:08, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-I heard the whole thing with Chief in a cloak was part of an inside joke between 343 and Bungie and was done to make the game look like Destiny. Not sure if any official sources have said that though so it may just be a fan theory.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 09:47, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-:When I fist saw that, that was the impression I got - Destiny. But still I don't see no reason for it except to hide himself. But if he really wanted to do that, he could've used active camouflage. I just think they did that to make the trailer (or MC) look more dramatic. The "background" music however is forgettable and awfully "quiet". I guess that's because Neil didn't compose it.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 15:59, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
-I also found it strange, but I think it's likely just stylistic. He's mysterious; he's wandering; etc. The desert itself might be a metaphor for space, even if that's a real planet in the story. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#800080">Dragon<font color="#DE397E">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#6600D8">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:07, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
-:Good point. I just hope they don't copy Destiny with this release.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:42, 14 June 2013 (EDT)
-I'm racking my brain trying to remember where I saw the reference, but Frankie apparently stated on NeoGaf that the cloak was intended to conceal John's identity. I'll post the link when I find it again. - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:41, 26 June 2013 (EDT)
-:Found it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62374146&postcount=493 - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:51, 26 June 2013 (EDT)
-== New Machine to be revealed as the war sphinx? ==
-when i saw the trailer, i noticed that this thing reminds a bit of a sphinx quoted in the books of greg bear, could it be that in this new halo they will show the true power of the forerunner?
-Also, its eyes are orange as the didact's army, could this mean that he really survived the epilogue of halo 4?{{unsigned|87.9.49.128}}
-:1) The prevailing theory is that it's either a War Sphinx or a Seeker, so you're probably right. 2) Orange seems to be the default highlight color for Promethean technology. While the Didact may have survived - I hope he did - we don't know for sure. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 19:29, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
-::If I'm not mistaken, war sphinxes are also Promethean technology. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 19:51, 10 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330
-:::They are. Whatever the machine is, it's undoubtedly Promethean. What I meant to say is that the orange "eyes" don't indicate that the Didact is alive, as the OP suggested. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 20:14, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
-:: Shite. When I saw the machine-thingy, my mind immediately went to the Forunner Ships from Halo Wars haha. Also, it's just a preview. So it doesnt even matter if he's wearing a robe. Anywho, his visor was cracked. Also am I to assume that was Cortanas Chip? [[User:Maginot Sphere|Maginot Sphere]] ([[User talk:Maginot Sphere|talk]]) 09:54, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::Would definitely love to see these things in action in the next game.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 15:59, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::Vulture vs. Lich vs. BirdShip! [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 01:34, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
-==New Location?==
-I am fairly certain that we're back on the Ark. The sand dunes, for one (though that's very little to go off,) and the "planet" seen in the background are very reminiscent of those seen on the Ark. I don't believe we should list it before it's confirmed, but leave a discussion point open as more information flows in.[[User:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] ([[User talk:Ocean Soul|talk]]) 22:23, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
-:I was thinking the same until I noticed the absence of the curved arms the original Ark has.— [[User:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">Ha</span>]][[User talk:Hacame|<span style="color:#6699FF; font-family:Futura; font-size:14px; font-weight:bold;">came</span>]] 22:36, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
-::...or Reach, post-glassing, bringing the holo chip back to Cortana's birthplace? The ragged mountains look like Reach and the land is certainly infertile. Plus Forerunner machinery was all over Reach. [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 22:40, 10 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::Oh god that would be so epic. Imagine if Master Chief found a 'final log' of sorts of Noble Six that revealed he had found some sort of 'weapon' or 'artifact' prior to his last stand. Would explain why he sort of seemed like he was content with dying, maybe he found something that made his life feel complete. Delivering Cortana was cool and all, and was pivotal to the war effort, but we don't exactly know what happened between then, and his post-credits scene at the ruins, and could be something of truly epic proportions. Maybe even a "fabrication compiler" of sorts that uploaded his consciousness into AI format (getting carried away here). Could also tie into the 14 dead Spartans lying around. Just speculation though nothing to get worked up about. --[[User:DC Ambrose|DC Ambrose]] ([[User talk:DC Ambrose|talk]]) 16:18, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
-:::The Ark was the impression I got as well. The implied degree of damage it received varies each time it's mentioned, but I doubt it was actually destroyed, just very damaged, likely not able to make more rings. And it also looks like John is trying to get Cortana back, whether he knows if he can or not, or where she is at that point, we don't know, though. Since he spent half his dialogue in Halo 4 talking about it, he'll be trying to find Halsey for sure, and with what happened with her in Spartan Ops... well, John may be giving another badass "No, Sir" (or a few) to ONI in this one, and I doubt they'll take kindly to that. And whether he's on the run from ONI/UNSC, or they just won't help him, that sets the stage perfectly for Thel to come back and help his old friend out. Just some thoughts I've had so far. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 04:04, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::The [[Absolute Record|absolute record]]...--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 07:55, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-::: @ Alex T Snow: Wow. You just blew my mind. 343 would be a fool not to use that plot. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 09:12, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-::  I also agree. Might be Reach. I'd like to see that anyway. [[User:Maginot Sphere|Maginot Sphere]] ([[User talk:Maginot Sphere|talk]]) 09:55, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::I don't think it's Reach. At 0:46 of the trailer, John looks up and you see the sky with what appears to be a reddish planet/moon. Neither of Reach's [[:File:HaloReach - ReachMoons.png|two moons]] are red.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:12, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::My money's on the Ark as well... That moon is the same color as the [[Strip mining moon|Foundry]] and the geography supports the theory. [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 13:03, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::Maybe both moons were also glassed by the Covenant, hence why they're red. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 13:37, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::I somehow managed to completely forget about the Absolute Record. :/ The Ark would be a good place for something like that to be, and Halsey is the only person that knows about it, so yeah, that could be where he's headed. I also noticed watching it again that in addition to his visor being cracked, the armour itself is also very worn. And I'm not sure if the "Your journey begins" is a tagline for the game, or for the new console, so I'm not sure if that's something we can read into. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:59, 11 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::::That's why I said "absolute record" above. However I don't believe that the ark, reach, or any location we've already been to is the location to be in "Halo 5". I believe it's the Absolute record itself as a new location or a shield world/planet/installation as the set. Who knows. Sometimes things turn out to be different from the trailer in the actual release.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 15:59, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::::Maybe it's not even Five... i'm wishing for [[Spartan Ops|SO]] Season 2, cause the first one was painfully disappointing, narrativewise and gameplaywise. <font face="eurostile"><font size="2.1">[[User:K4|<font color="#black">k</font>]]</font><font size="3.1">[[User talk:K4|<font color="#696969">4</font>]]</font><font size="2.1">[[Special:Contributions/K4|<font color="black">karnage</font>]]</font></font> 20:39, 13 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::::The ending S1 may tie into Halo "5" since the main campaign of H4 didn't build up to another story for MC. It pretty muched ended there. Though, Halo "5" may explain what the chief was doing for the past six months before the Infinity returned to Requiem. If that's the case there will be a S2 for SO's but it'll continue to follow crimson's story and not MC's. Confusing really. We do need an explanation for why the UNSC waited 6 months before returning to Requiem. But yeah, Spartan Ops was bad both ways. The writing was terrible and someone described it as the "most mismanaged campaign" by the UNSC.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:42, 14 June 2013 (EDT)
-If the trailer takes place in an established location, my guess is that it's set on Sanghelios. All the features are there: desert, rocky crags, at least one similarly barren moon, and abandoned Forerunner technology. I've been wanting to see the continuation (or aftermath) of the Sangheili civil war since it began in ''The Thursday War''. There's been speculation that the Arbiter will be reintroduced in the second game of the trilogy, just as he was the first time around. If this really is the Elite homeworld, we might see Thel's return pretty soon. --[[User:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|talk]]) 11:02, 15 June 2013 (EDT)
-:Definitely looking forward to him coming back. Aside from being awesome, he's virtually the only person left John could consider a friend. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 01:34, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
-::They should have brought him back in Halo 4.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:52, 16 June 2013 (EDT)
-It could be set on [[Installation 03]] or a previously-unseen planet near it. The upper left part of the moon in the sky appears to have a chunk missing, just like [[:File:Composer.png|the rocky planet]] that Installation 03 orbits. The planet is even the same color. We don't see a Halo's curve in the sky but that could be obscured by the clouds. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 17:31, 21 June 2013 (EDT)
-:Someone on youtube came up with a theory that that robot was Mendicant-Bias rising out of the desert on installation 00 where he was buried. Of course that robot's design is far from the Mendicant's description but who knows.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:59, 25 June 2013 (EDT)
-::On [http://w11.zetaboards.com/Halo_Archive/topic/8880785/2/#new Halo Archive] and [https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst214541_Halo-5--The-Ark-Theory.aspx here] they created a ''very'' attractive theory. It links very well with prior fiction, and I would be disappointed if the sequel to ''Halo 4'' didn't take the Ark up as the main location. The construct we see rising ''could'' be Mendicant Bias' guard or protection, if it weren't him himself. I'd love to see a continuation of MB's story, and I was a little disappointed by his lack of mention in ''4''. :P --<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 13:41, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::Yeah, I also wanted Mendicant Bias to be mentioned in ''Halo 4'', especially because of the last Terminal in ''H3'', when he says things like he'll protect the Chief's path to the Portal, and he'd like his masters to see that he has changed, etc. I whish the Librarian had said that Mendicant Bias made sure that the Chief would reach Requiem, etc. because it's part of her plan... Too bad he's not mentioned at all. I also think that John returning to the Ark would be a good story, I hope ''Silentium'''s epilogue will be used this way. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 17:08, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-::::He wasn't the only one not mentioned. The Arbiter wasn't mentioned either.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Gray">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:32, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-:::::I was hoping that Mendy would be the Chief's new AI buddy, but I have a sinking feeling that it will more likely be Guilty Chakas...[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 13:13, 24 July 2013 (EDT)
-Has anyone considered that this my be Kholo? Lets look at the facts. We know Kholo was glassed, which means the sand and molten metal show in the trailer could be a connection. We also know that there were Forunner ruins on Kholo, they were just buried by the glassing. Could this possibly be Kholo? We know that 343 is wanting to connect all of Halo cannon, from the books, the comics, to the games. I don't doubt the fact that it could be possibly at the Ark, but I figured I'd throw this out there for other people to consider. Siphon 117 20:42, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
-:Maybe but its not really a significant location for anything to happen. Of course they left some mystery as to what the humans were excavating on the planet but that's about it. Would be nice for 343i to finish that story.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:08, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
-==Improvements we want to see==
-As some of you may have noticed, I was a little disappointed with most of the things I saw that came out of Halo 4, with Spartan Ops being my overall biggest disappointment. With that in mind there are certain improvements I would like to see out of the next iteration. I would like to see the return of campaign theater & scoring. I wanna see more unique weaponry and better weapon sounds. There needs to be more variety - for example: in one of the SpOps missions, we are tasked with killing troops on the ground, yet another [[Fireteam Shadow|spartan squad]] gets to destroy a covie cruiser from the inside - why were they given a more fun mission? I would like all those COD features erased from the game and make way for more classic style Halo gameplay for multiplayer. I want more consistency - I didn't like the fact that the FUD, master chief, and covie species were redesigned. And finally I want better gameplay where QTE's no longer existed. There's more but I wanted to keep it brief. Anyone else have anything they want to see for the next Halo game.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:59, 25 June 2013 (EDT)
-Let's also make it unhackable...{{Unsigned|I Kill U}}
-:It's impossible to make something completely impervious to hacking.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 12:07, 26 June 2013 (EDT)
-:What's wrong with hacking a game? It helps gamers find sweet new toys like the stasis rifle and bishop beam.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Gray">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:10, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-:Sangheili in multi-player. That is all I want. :D --<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 13:41, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-::I do miss this feature as it allowed for role-playing and made gameplay unique instead of the same-ole spartans vs. spartans.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Gray">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:23, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-Improvements? Bring back the old multiplayer system where everything is unlocked from the very beginning. Offline players need some love too! — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  15:04, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-:^Definitely. I almost forgot about the offline features. Halo 4 was dominated with online "only" non-sense.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Gray">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 20:23, 29 June 2013 (EDT)
-Speaking for myself, toning down the glare would be nice. Some of the Forerunner-themed missions especially got near-blinding. There's stylisation, and there's occular pain.
-Other than that, I would love to see more effective non-Covenant enemies. The Prometheans were a great idea, executed with mixed results. The Covenant were fine as always. I would also love to see some human enemies for a change - rogue UNSC perhaps, or even Insurrectionists allied to a Covenant remnant faction. I've always thought that real Innies were being led up to in the first level of Reach, which would result in a fakeout revealing the Covenant, but they were cut for time. Fighting a human faction hostile to the UNSC, perhaps even teaming up with them if the Covenant turn on them, would be great! And since Forerunner enemies are a given in this post-Didact universe, expanding the number of Sentinel types would be great, filling a niche vacated by the Drones and Jetpack Troopers perhaps.
-I'd also love to see a better starfighter level, if they bring that gameplay back. The Saber was fantastic, but the Broadsword left me underwhelmed. I expected dogfighting, and what I got was a Death Star trench run without Darth Vader breathing down my neck. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:56, 30 June 2013 (EDT)
-:You read my mind. I was hoping to fight the insurrectionist for the longest time. That would present some unique gameplay. Never know, they could be included in a new game as part of this new "saga" that 343i is planning - they might as well make it happen. But yeah, the Broadsword sequence was a lil lame, whenever I play that mission I skip the trench. They definitely should try to make better use of the Broadsword than a linear obstacle course. Speaking of that, I'm still wishing to see some more human energy weapons besides the Spartan laser. That was not fulfilled in Halo 4. Maybe the next Halo?
-:I remember someone joking about the lens flare in Halo 4. I didn't mind it honestly but it was distracting in the star trek film (not too bad though).--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Gray">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:22, 30 June 2013 (EDT)
-::I've got a few small, very specific, but very important improvements. Bring back the "none of the above" option and the ability to change your vote in matchmaking.<br/> Also, they need to make weapons and bodies stick around longer in Spartan Ops. All too often I would drop a weapon, turn around for two seconds and everything was gone. This was likely a result of fact that ''Halo 4'' pushed the hardware to its limit, so removing bodies and weapons more quickly was necessary to prevent slowdown and lag in Spartan Ops - Xbox One won't have this problem.<br/> A critical change is to increase the amount of ammo you can carry in the campaign. They decreased the ammo capacity for a lot of the weapons to increase the incentive to use the Ammo support upgrade. But in campaign they used the default low limit, which was a huge pain in the ass. How many of us were forced to backtrack again and again for ammo because we could only carry 56 DMR rounds instead of 75? I'm not saying we need to go back up the 120 and 600 round limits of ''Combat Evolved'', but ''Halo 4'' showed just how easy it is to adjust those limits, so there's no reason why you couldn't carry more rounds in campaign with a smaller default threshold in multiplayer.<br> Final suggestion: the terminals. I get that they're trying to get people to use Waypoint, but they need to allow people to watch the terminals in-game. I also wish they would allow you to go back and find and access them again after the first time. Even now, when I play through the old games, I like to go back and re-find, re-read, and re-watch old terminals and skulls. I've even created dummy profiles on my Xbox just so I could find the ''ODST'' audio logs again. --[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 01:09, 7 July 2013 (EDT)
-:::I second the ammo thing for sure. I never really had an issue carrying the guns I wanted through missions in previous games, but carrying the AR through all of Halo 4 is very challenging to do without running out. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 01:38, 8 July 2013 (EDT)
-:::The issue with objects disappearing from a game is due to the limited memory space the Xbox 360 has. By the looks of it, Halo 4 graphics engine has pushed the console's RAM to its limit, and the only way to prevent the game from crashing is by quickly deleting/removing these objects left behind/not collected by the player. I'm sure the next Halo installment on the Xbox One wouldn't have this problem. Definitely agree about the issue of accessing additional media. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  06:29, 8 July 2013 (EDT)
-::::Agree 100% with Rusty. To be honest I don't think they should've maxed out the 360 to its limits. Takes away from gameplay/features (i.e. weapon pick-ups, campaign theater, etc...). Perhaps they should've kept the Reach graphics but improved it to get rid of the grainy texture problem that game had? IDK. 42 rounds for your DMR is just stupid - which is why I resorted to sequence breaking and skipping large chunks of the levels in order to get through them without using much ammo if any. As for the terminals, definitely should've been in-game. Seems like 343i was foricng players to have fun their way (which may explain why we still don't have a classic playlist for multiplayer).--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Gray">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:09, 8 July 2013 (EDT)
-:::::Have you tried Throwdown? It's the most faithful and competetive playlist. Unfortunately, you'll have to be pretty good to hold your own in it. It's mostly played by the really competetive players. '''Always use the DMR. This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 18:33, 25 July 2013 (EDT)
-::::::I never tried it but they have legendary slayer and that was pretty good.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:08, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
-My wants are the usual: No sprint as an option, descope, lowered aim assist, especially magnetism. '''Ok, so maybe don't always use the DMR anymore. That two shot-melee is pretty good. This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 18:49, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
-I'd like to see a return to the health system used in Halo: Reach. I thought that Bungie actually pulled that off pretty well. It would also make available new weapons that could shred through both a small amount of shield and health like Killamint said.
-@Qura Morhek: Bingo! i couldn't have said it better.  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 12:33, 27 September 2013 (EDT)
-:Definitely agree with you there. I hate the health system in Halo 4, mainly because your health isn't shown on the HUD which leaves you blind as to how much health you have after your shields have dropped. Hated it in Halo 2 and 3 as well.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 10:52, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
-I was playing through Halo 4 again, for the first time in months, and I was surprised by my new impressions on the game. Time really gives you a fresh perspective, and what struck me was two things - firstly, the irritation when fighting exclusively Promethean enemies, and secondly, the weapon redundancy. You have so many weapons filling the same niches. Everything besides that still seems extremely solid, and when you're fighting the Covenant it's extremely fun. I'm not sure if 343i have fixed the weapon balancing multiplayer, but that would be a big must for me. My point about the lens flare still stands (it's ridiculous, especially on the Forerunner-styled levels). -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:52, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
-:I haven't played Halo 4 in weeks, maybe a month I guess (on GTA5 at this point). It died a lil w/ me. I also noticed the population dying even more. It used to average 30K+/- players, now it's starting to average 15-20K+/- players ([http://halocharts.com/2013/playlists_halo4.php source]). Skulls in SpOps is not enough, they should be customizable (playing mythic w/ no catch, tilt, & black eye is no fun), and we still need scoring & theater. The weapon redundancy is very obvious especially with the reloading mechanic which is just ridiculous. The weapons should've been unique and battery powered but oh well. 343i did fix the weapon balancing in multiplayer but in my opinion they did too much. Some of the weapons needed only minor fixes. That 4-shot crap w/ the br is annoying. They nerfed the DMR too much, and they made some of the other weapons a lil too powerful. Getting 1-shot by the sniper rifle in the body (not the head) w/ full health and shields is too much. I can't help you w/ the lens flare lol.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:13, 14 October 2013 (EDT)
-Can we have some kind of boat? I mean really, with all of the Covenant's anti-grav technology, there has ''got'' to a hovercraft somewhere. I just want to play on it. Come to think of it, I don't think Halo has ever had a water vehicle. And no, the Gondolas from Halo 2 do not count.
-Also, I'd like to see something like the elephants on Halo 3's Sandtrap map. At least some kind of more open map that featured vehicles more heavily. In gameplay, it should be similar to Hemorrhage, where you had lots of open space (enough for scorpions+Wraiths+Ghosts+Revenants+Mongooses), but not too open, as it had all of those nice hills. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 15:52, 15 October 2013 (EDT)
-==Final Improvements List==
-I'm gonna go ahead and sum up everything that I think needs to be brought back/eliminated in the next game. This list is comprised of things in the [[Forum:Halo 5 (General)#Improvements we want to see|above section]], forums, youtube, waypoint, my personal opinion, and other gamers alike. This also counts features/items that may be carried over from Halo 4 to Halo "5". Missed anything? Add to the list in the proper section! Don't like something on the list, don't delete it! State your reason [[Forum:Halo 5 (General)#Comments|below the list]].--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:53, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
-*Oh, as a side note, I will be paying close attention to what has been applied from this list over to the next game and will conduct my own review (that's if I buy the game, I have yet to buy a XBOXONE - cost too much, waiting for the price to drop to like $350-$400).--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:02, 17 January 2014 (EST)
-{{Hide|title=Campaign|
-*Bring back Campaign Scoring/timer/medals
-*Bring back Campaign Theater
-*Bring back 4 player match-making for campaign
-*Stop relying on novels/terminals to tell the in-game story
-*Get rid of quick time events and those corny animated button presses
-*If boss battles are brought back, simply make the boss like regular enemies, just with special weapons & more health/shields
-*Make larger non-linear levels like in Halo 1
-*Better Broadsword level that is non-linear
-*Stop retconning story elements/designs
-*Bring back power-ups in campaign
-*Give us more use/variety out of the pelican rather than just flying from “point a to b” (perhaps picking up troops)
-*Let us fight insurrectionist for once
-*Bring back the arbiter
-*Add more new vehicles like boats – if Forerunners/Prometheans are in the next game, give them some usable vehicles
-*Bring back the flashlight and/or night/infrared vision (Weeping Angel)
-*Add more variety & creativeness for mission objectives aside from destroying energy cores (something that plagues Halo 4's mission objectives)
-*Better story telling (Weeping Angel)
-*Bring back Covenant language translation software (in other words allow the covies to speak English again)
-*Better music, in fact bring back the old theme - Halo: CE and Halo 2 were great. Halo 4's theme was too weird/boring imo and the music was way too quiet with little sense of awe.
-*Mammoth run.
-}}
-{{Hide|title=Multiplayer|
-*Bring back actual skill-based ranks and display them next to gamertags (not in waypoint)
-*Get rid of the grinding/progression non-sense – if armor has to be unlocked, it should be through achievements or things done in-game, not rank-based
-*Get rid of random & personal ordnance – if not keep it under social playlist
-*Get rid of custom loadouts and tactical & support packages – if not keep it under social playlist
-*Give us free DLC maps so everyone can play rather than those who paid
-*Separate social (Infinity) and ranked playlist
-*Get rid of instant-respawns and join in progress - if not leave it under social playlist
-*Get rid of kill-cams – if not leave it under social playlist and fix them
-*Make better maps with better layouts and interactive features
-*Stop making so many large 8v8 maps, give us more 4v4 maps
-*Bring back human aerial vehicles and maybe some new ones
-*Bring back elites in mp
-*Keep the Mantis
-*Make armor abilities pick-ups on the map rather than starting equipment and have limited use
-*Get rid of promethean vision and active-camo as armor abilities but make them power-ups instead
-*Stop “outlining” an overshield user
-*Give us two dodges per charge for thruster pack, make it faster, and make it 1st person
-*Allow players to move when looking at the score using the back button
-*Bring back kill counts for scoring, not that “600 points” crap – restrict points to individual players
-*Bring back friendly fire and “boot player” function
-*Fix the spawning system
-*Get rid of auto pick-ups for the flag and ball, and allow the flag to be dropped – also get rid of flagnums – if not make it a sub-variant of CTF
-*Bring back several sub-variants of gametypes such as 1-flag
-*Make the Mammoth drivable in MP
-*Add a map w/ playlist for 16v16 (Weeping Angel)
-*Include friendly/enemy NPC's or Bots in mp (Weeping Angel)
-*Bring back Invasion
-*Allow us to play as other covenant species in maybe separate playlist
-*Add a large vehicular focused map with a 32 player maximum (Siphon117)
-}}
-{{Hide|title=Gameplay|
-*Keep the Railgun (my favorite new weapon), SAW, - replace the Sticky Detonator w/ the grenade launcher from Reach, have both, or have the option to automatically detonate the stick detonator
-*Get rid of all the Promethean weapons, covie carbine, and beam rifle - (all these weapons are redundant)
-*Give us better Forerunner weapons that are unique – like the sentinel beam
-*Bring back the plasma rifle (and its stun effect & headshot capability like in Halo 1), focus rifle (buff it), needle rifle, make the Fuel Rod gun similar to how it was in Halo 1 (bolt arcs instead of firing straight), and bring back the stun effect for the plasma pistol
-*Get rid of the lunge effect for melees (make it like it was in Halo 1 which required SKILL)
-*Make the grenades more powerful like in Halo 1 - where did the large explosions & chain reactions go? Also grenades should only explode after coming to rest like in Halo 1 so that people don't spam them.
-*Stop de-spawning weapons so quickly
-*Bring back more ammo for weapons
-*Bring back de-scoping when shot
-*Stop making one-shot body kills w/ full health & shields for the UNSC sniper rifle
-*Allow aim-assist to be optional (reduce reticule/bullet magnetism)
-*Show more info on the HUD – secondary weapon & ammo, compass, map-call outs, health for vehicles and friendly A.I., and a sprint meter
-*Make the HUD customizable
-*Give the weapons better sound effects – they sounded too weak and like staplers/typewriters
-*Get rid of the “punch a vehicle to death” boarding mechanic, and allow a vehicle user to exit a vehicle when being boarded
-*Bring back the flamethrower or similar weapon (Siphon117)
-*Give the Mantis limited jump capability (Weeping Angel)
-*Bring back the SMG (Alex T Snow)
-*Bring back Brute weapons (Siphon117)
-*Add vehicles from Halo Wars (Siphon117)
-}}
-{{Hide|title=Other|
-*Give us a BETA
-*Bring back firefight
-*If Spartan Ops makes a comeback, it should be revised heavily – stop recycling maps and utilize all new maps, give it more narrative and better writing (IMO cutting off Halsey’s arm was just dumb), give it more variety, add theater, scoring, timer, medals, lives, and choose able skulls, reduce the number of missions to avoid reusing maps (if maps are reused, give it a different atmosphere), get rid of online-only access
-*Give us a better user interface (like Reach)
-*Make forge more user friendly like it was in Reach
-*Give us bigger/flatter maps like Forge world
-*Give us more new items to build out of instead of the same ole stuff
-*Forge maps for firefight w/ ability to set weapon, enemy, player spawns (Weeping Angel)
-*Add more unique easter eggs (Spartan331)
-*Get rid of multiplayer achievements or make them easier (in other words, "possible") to achieve
-*Let us use all vehicles on any forge map, no matter how impractical. allow as much freedom as possible.
-}}
-{{Hide|title=Up For Debate|
-*Get rid of promethean vision, jetpack, and active-camo as armor abilities (make active-camo a power up) – if not keep it under social playlist, restrict them to campaign, or make them pick-up's on the map
-*Give the Mantis limited flight capability (Siphon117)
-*Have both equipment and armor abilities (Siphon117)
-*Bring back dual-wielding (Siphon117)
-}}
-{{Hide|title=New Weapon/AA Ideas|
-*Particle Cannon gun - Basically a handheld version of the [[Z-8060 Particle Cannon]]. Has to be charged up. Fires a continuous beam that last for about 2-3 seconds. Battery powered, each firing is around 20% power discharge. Slightly less powerful than the Spartan Laser but charges faster.
-*Give us the [[Stasis rifle]], [[Bishop beam]], and [[Burst pistol]].
-*A headshot capable power weapon that fires in four shot bursts. Non hitscan, fast enough to, y'know, be effective, but slow enough that you'll have to start leading at early-medium range. Three shots to break shields, so if the entire burst hits and the last shot is a headshot, you can kill in one burst. Perhaps three or so body shots to kill. The speed of the burst would be slightly faster than 2 BR bursts. I kind of imagine it as a detached turret, but that's not too important.
-*A non hitscan energy weapon that fires ridiculously fast, so that the individual shots merge together into a single large stream. Or just code it as a stream, if that's possible. It would deal heavy damage and be able to fire for very long without overheating, but the stream travels very slow, so that using it against individual targets would be difficult, if not straight up impractical. However, you would be able to use the stream to lay down suppressing fire and render a spot impassible, or at the very least extremely dangerous to attempt to do so, and be able to do this for a good while. (I feel like I may have explained this poorly)
-}}
-===Comments===
-I got rid of the "put mammoth in MP" thing. With its size, invulnerability, and firepower, I fail to see how it could play well. '''Ok, so maybe don't always use the DMR anymore. That two shot-melee is pretty good. This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 12:06, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
-:Hey don't delete it, just comment about it. IMO I think it is workable. If the elephant was usable on a large size map like sandtrap than the mammoth should be too especially given the power of the next gen xboxone. They could make a map that's a lil bigger and maybe fit one mammoth on the map. The mini-mac could be unusable (like the falcon's gun in mp) and even though it's invulnerable you could simply board it. I honestly think it could make for fun and exciting gamplay. If not, make it drivable in campaign. Never know, the xbox one could really make this possible.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:00, 22 October 2013 (EDT)
-::Sorry, I assumed we were supposed to edit the list. I guess most things can be balanced. But I just have to think that the time you'd have to make for that to work well would likely take too long to be worthwhile. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 20:59, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
-:::Well time would be a factor given the release goal is 2014 (1 year) instead of 2016 (3 years).--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 07:04, 3 November 2013 (EST)
-I wanted to make a discussion segment about that timeline. if you think this shouldn't be here, go ahead and delete it/reorganize iit.
-First of all, that was a great idea to create a list like this Killamint, thanks. I do have a few problems with it though:
-I do think jetpack should be an armor ability. it gives map designers options for maps that could not exist without it. Take a map like sword base for instance. does it work without jetpack? well...yes, but that takes away so many strategies. also even in flatter maps, it gives you whole new opportunities for combating opponents. about the maps, let me propose something drastic here. what about 16 vs. 16? all the gametypes feel like little firefights to me. I'd like to see something more like a war! For that gametype your going to need 2 things: bigger maps, and different vehicles. About vehicles, the Mammoth may be a bit much, but I would definitely like to see something along the lines of either that or the Elephant. Of course, UNSC aerial vehicles are a must. I have long been waiting for more interactive maps. That's the one area where HALO has consistently faltered. I actually like starting with armor abilities. Bring back the Flashlight!! Seriously? Spartan IVs don't have a flashlight? I guess that's what you get when you sideline Halsey. I agree with you on the thruster pack, but I would add two things: it should go farther, and you should be able to aim it up. I didn't like the auto pickup, but I did like that you had to stick with the flag. Personally I would keep that. A little redundancy is O.K. It's just when ''everything'' is a verbatim copy that it gets annoying. I'm a little worried about putting more stuff on the HUD. I'd like to see all that stuff, sure, but I don't want it to get crowded. Also S.O. should be longer. Right now, it just feels like dead weight on Halo 4. Like an arm that needs to amputated and replaced with Firefight. Maybe instead of S.O. and firefight, you could have a normal 8v8 slayer game with a Prometheans as a 3 team. Then again, maybe that's just stupid. Those are my ideas, anyway.  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:12, 21 October 2013 (EDT)
-:Jetpacks break map flow and jetpackers themselves are annoying to deal with. If its in mp it should be restricted to social playlist or made a pick-up rather than a starting ability. However, they could have a map that's entirely based around jetpacking like the level new Alexandria where there was a platforming section that required the jetpack. That could offer an interesting change of pace and would be fair since everyone has a jetpack although it may get hectic & choatic in the game. I just don't agree with starting with armor abilities. Armor lock was annoying enough but then there's promethean vision. I think they should be pick-ups like equipment in H3 and have limited use to avoid spamming (which was a major problem with armor lock). If you do start with armor abilities it should be restricted to social playlist. Honestly I prefer smaller teams over big team battles but 16v16 is possible given the next gen xbox but it would definitely require a very large map. As for the mammoth, I just want to see it in mp at least on one map, perhaps it can be worked in with the 16v16 gametype you described. Whats wrong with having all that stuff displayed on the HUD? I don't believe it would cause any clutter - take a look at Reach's HUD, it was still clear. Compare that to MC's HUD in H4, it had less information but was more cluttered due to the helmet outlines and random lines & unreadable text. I'm not sure what you mean by "Prometheans as a 3 team." --'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:00, 22 October 2013 (EDT)
-::I see what you mean about jetpacks. the problem is that there are some maps where i think they actually make for smoother and more interesting gameplay. Going back to Reach again, the map Spire proved to me that jetpacks can help gameplay. Some maps however don't need jetpacks. on a map like pinnacle, I absolutely agree with you. they are both unnecessary, and detrimental to gameplay. Armor lock and Promethean vision are my two least favorite armor abilities. I found that in the campaign i was using Promethean vision as a flashlight. Remind me again why there was no flashlight? Active Camo should be a pickup, definitely. auto sentry was just lame. Regeneration field should also be a pickup. Hologram was alright. I'd be okay with leaving that as a starting ability since it doesn't really affect gameplay all that much. That leaves us with Jetpack, hard light shield, and thruster pack. Personally, I would keep the jetpack, but that's just me. Hard light shield was interesting, but I prefer bubble shield. One or the other though, we can't have both. likewise with thruster pack. I think you're right about the HUD. the Reach HUD was amazing. Halo 4's was just stupid. all those lines were just so annoying. referring to what I said about adding another team of Promethean NPCs, it would have to be done on a large map, comparable to Spire or Exile. I was thinking that you could just throw in some knights to break up the gameplay. I haven't really given much thought to that idea, so feel free to completely tear it to shreds. BTW, we totally need a Mammoth/Elephant.--[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:43, 25 October 2013 (EDT)
-:::I do like the jetpack, just not in mp. I hardly ever used it myself. But like I and you said, it can work fine on particular maps. I now know what you mean by NPC's. Basically have some "bots" in mp. I've been wishing for bots since the 1st Halo. So no, I'm not shredding that idea! Sometimes I'm not in the mood to play against human players. Sometimes I rather play "on my own time" on mp maps against bots, just for fun or for practice especially if I don't have any local players to play with. They could also be substitutes for players in mm and have adjusted difficulty tables (like if most of the players are good, the bot will be set to heroic). I think that would help with extending the longevity of the game.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:16, 26 October 2013 (EDT)
-One more thing. Forge firefight! I want to be able to make a firefight map from a forgeworld environment, and set enemy spawn points, how they spawn (phantom, spirit, droppod,etc...), where the friendly players spawn, and where all the weapons are. I want everything about Firfight forgeable.  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 10:50, 26 October 2013 (EDT)
-:That's an excellent idea!! Definitely added it to the list.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 08:24, 27 October 2013 (EDT)
+==Spartan Companies==
+Don't know if everyone has seen this already, but 343 have created what is essentially an official clan system for Halo 5. See Frankie's announcement [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/the-companies-you-keep HERE] and a breif overview [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/spartan-companies HERE]. Basically it's a service that lets you create a group through which to organise things through a group forum. Companies have a 100 person limit, and you can only be part of one at a time. Creating one or joining one will give you a free REQ pack. To become active you need to have at least four people in a Spartan company. Alongside this they have also added a Spartan customisation feature on Waypoint so you can customise your multiplayer Spartan outside of the game.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 02:12, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
-::But how will that work with AI pathfinding?{{unsigned|CraZboy557}}
+:You also get a REQ pack for the first time being in an active (+4 member) company. I created my company as soon as the feature was released and managed to snatch a valuable name. Anyway, I'm in the process of taking screenshots of every single armor, visor, and color for upload. Expect a huge dump of images in an hour or two.--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Gray">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 02:19, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
+::The community has been asking for something like this for quite a while, so I'm glad this is finally happening. My only strike against it is that you can only be in one company at a time, but I guess they have a reason for it.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 11:02, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
-:::Good question. You will have to ask Weeping Angel about that one...--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 17:38, 1 December 2013 (EST)
+==Story==
+Do not worry, I am not going to say any spoilers, I just want to say. What. The. ****. I am just... speechless as to what just happened in the campaign, anyone else? I literally felt my heart stop for a second when I got the legendary ending.[[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 05:20, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
-There are 3 more things that I'd like to say, but I'm not sure you can put these on any list. These are just broader goals that I'd like for 343i to shoot for.
+:Without spoiling anything, I loved the campaign. I thought it was probably the best since ODST. I have no idea what certain reviews complaining about a weak campaign are talking about, except that maybe they weren't paying attention to it. Osiris works well, and Blue Team are a thrill to see, if sparingly. The story satisfies everything I want a Halo story to be, and introduces a few new major players. There is one new character who is really cute, and I hope she returns for future games. You'll know them when you see them. I watched a playthrough, rather than playing the game, but it looks really, really fun. The Prometheans retooling seems to have worked rather well, and the Spartan Abilities are really nice new tools in the sandbox. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:36, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
-The first is creativity. Bungie was incredibly creative with each of their games. the difference between the games in the original trilogy is astounding. Halo 4 felt more like a combination of Halo 3 and Reach. 343i needs to make a game that feels incredibly new and excitingly different. on a smaller scale, 343i added all of 5 new weapons to Halo 4: the sticky detonator, the SAW, the Railgun, the Pulse grenade, and the incineration cannon. Bungie added the target locator, the grenade launcher, the DMR, the needle rifle, the cuncussion rifle, the plasma repeater, the plasma launcher, the focus rifle, and the whole idea of armor abilities.
+:: Yeah, I think I know who she is you are referring to, I hope for that as well. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 22:53, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
-Secondly, Halo Reach had a certain grittiness to it. there was something so real about it. Halo 4 just seemed too pretty. And there's nothing wrong with pretty, but It looked kind of fake compared to Reach. Take a look at the pictures in the Halo: Reach and Halo 4 pages, and you can see what I mean. I want the next game to be stunningly real. That doesn't mean that can't be pretty. But I want to get a little dirty sometimes.
+:::I second everything you said, Qura 'Morhek, and I definitely think the complaints I've been seeing are either lack of understanding, or that due to lack of paying attention; any gripes I have with the campaign are few, far between, and not really worth noting. All too often people judge stories based on their own preconceptions that they can't get overlook; they've already decided what the story should be, and if it's not that then clearly it's a crap story. :/ Personally, I expected more or less exactly what happened, both in this story and the setup for the future. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 15:44, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
-And the third thing is storytelling. Despite 343i's incessant talk about how Halo 4 will delve deeper into the Master Chief, I felt like Halo: Reach actually did a better job of describing the pain that he's been through. The way each of Noble 6's teammates were picked off, one by one, created a powerful analogy to what the Master Chief has been through.
+I'm also in the category of flabbergasted. I've never been truly surprised before with a Halo campaign, but this is a first, and damn, is it satisfying. I'm still trying to wrap my head around it, honestly. I played through it first on Easy, for the story, and I'll be doing a Legendary run soon, but damn, I almost didn't want it to end. Makes me wonder what Halo 6 will bring to the table, with a certain someone as the new antagonist, a new monitor ally (who is absolutely adorable in my opinion), and with the Warden still active, its going to be quite the story. Now, we just have to wait 3 more years to continue the story, and until then, to Warzone.
+Siphon 117 17:54, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
-Bungie hasn't just excelled at each of these elements in Halo: Reach. I used that as an example because it's the game that I'm the most familiar with. In each of the Bungie games, they showed unparalleled creativity, unbelievable art works, and incredible storytelling. If 343i can capture those three elements, I have confidence that they will create a stupendous game, whether or not they address each of our grievances listed on this page. It'll make me happy, at least.  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 15:52, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
+:(Please don't kill me) Story strength-wise I would call Halo 5 the Age of Ultron of the Reclaimer Saga; it's definitely good, but not great. I liked the story overall, but there were parts that I felt should have been expanded on a bit more (For the sake of spoilers, I'll list them when the spoiler-ban no longer applies) [[User:Yoonhyuk-740|<span style="color:#2554C7">Yoonhyuk-740</span>]] 10:20PM EST, October 27th, 2015.
-:Yeah I already mentioned weapon variety as being something that needs to be added to the game. Although I didn't find the incineration cannon to be anything special (IMO it's just a pretty looking rocket launcher). As for mission variety I added that to the list as I forgot about it. To be honest I think Halo 4 was overall better looking than Halo Reach but may have been too pretty as it compromised everything else (weapons despawning too fast). Yes they need better story telling so I added that to the list. Halo 4 did a good job of humanizing chief but it lacked in every other aspect such as the Didact being a weak antagonist and not much story telling outside of MC & Cortana. But yeah, it is safe to say that Halo 4 wasn't innovative in any way compared to the previous trilogy/saga. It was far more imitative and gave us nothing new.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 07:04, 3 November 2013 (EST)
+::As far as I know, our spoilers policy is that, if it's officially out in the wild, it's fair game. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I posted a plot synopsis for Halo 5 on this basis, and if I'm wrong, I'd appreciate correction so I can remove that.
-I personally like a few things they did in Halo 4, but I'll go ahead and put my 2 cents in here.
+::I would agree with that comparison in that, like Age of Ultron, a lot of people are jumping on small issues that I could easily forgive. My brother had serious problems with Halo 4's campaign and how you needed to read the books to make heads or tails of it. He sent me a message this morning, telling me only that it is "brilliant," so I can only assume he didn't have those issues this time around, which I am glad.
--First off, I love the jetpack. I'm one of the so called "Jet packers", but I personally see it as a good addition. And really, if you don't like the jetpack for being used against you, that's your problem.
--I do agree with most of the weapon changes you suggested, especially with the Sentinel Beam. I really loved that weapon, and I hated that 343 didn't bring it back in 4.
--I definitely want more aerial vehicles, especially the hornet. I also liked the falcon, but what I think would be a good idea, would be to have (maybe) a large, possible 16 on 16 style map (I think such a thing could be done on the Xbox One), with two large bases and a middle ground. Think of Blood gulch, but larger, and more air space. And add in both the Phantom, and the Pelican(Auto cannon only) To counter such powerful air vehicles, I would think we'd need the AA Wraith, the Wolverine, or maybe even the Vampire. Maybe even throw in some water based vehicles, and we'd have an epic map with which a massive battle could take place in. Just saying...
--Agree on keeping the mantis.
--I think a combination of armor abilities, and equipment would be nice. Have both armor abilities, like jet pack, sprint(don't particularly like it as standard), hard light shield (or something equal to it), invisibility, and other such abilities. Then, we could have equipment, such as the regenerator, bubble shield (invincible, preferably), power drain, flare, some kind of mine, and maybe some knew types, such as a deployable turret (like the sentry gun from Black Ops), a homing bomb thing, that could detonate and create a small portal that would suck in nearby players (like the vortex, which they were going to add in H3), and small drone that follows the player for say 30 seconds after being deployed. And have the armor abilities set to either RB or X, and have the equipment set to the D-pad.
--Agree with bringing back Firefight. Spartan ops just didn't do it for me.
--Maybe a Covenant mecha, of some sort? Think like a large, pilotable hunter, with its assault cannon, and shield. Also, maybe give the Mantis some form of limited flight (for some reason, the Mantis does indeed have what looks like thrusters on it, but they don't do anything).
--Bring back the brutes, and their weapons and vehicles. Especially the Chopper.
--BRING BACK DUEL WIELDING! Honestly, I really wanted this one in H4, but I'll still be hoping they bring it back in 5 (or whatever they call it.)
--Promethean vehicles. Like a large, pilotable War Sphinx. Maybe single player only, but still.
--SMG. That is all.
--Have both the grenade launcher and stick detonator. However, give the grenade launcher slightly more power, and make the stick detonator slightly less powerful.
--Flamethrower. A usable flame thrower. If not a flamethrower, a similar covenant weapon that spews hot, burning plasma at short range. Like a plasma cutter, but bigger, and more powerful.
--Make the thruster pack actually useful. At least two burst, at least. And longer bursts.
--Arbiter. Enough said.
--Gatling Guns. Like the one in H3. Enough said.
-I could go on and on, but I think you guys get the general idea.
-Siphon 117 23:02, 12 November 2013 (EST)
-:Your a genius. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 23:19, 12 November 2013 (EST)
+::As for the future, I'm excited for the possibilities this opens up. Regarding Warden Eternal: we all, I think, expected the Didact to have survived being Composed. I kind of expected the Warden to turn out to be the Didact in a new body. Now imagine a composed Didact, in a hulking Promethean body, fighting the Warden for control of this new faction seeking the Mantle. Now imagine the UNSC and Swords of Sanghelios launching a united strike during this internecine conflict, to take out or capture Cortana. Heck, we see Covenant in the game who think Genesis was "promised by the Prophets" - they could see these Guardians as the return of their "Gods" and begin to revive, after the disasters on Kamchatka and Sanghelios, in service to their new AI overlords. And having a large, diverse, interesting roster of characters, setting them all on the run, and teasing the involvement of a Halo in the future.
-:I don’t necessarily “hate” the jetpack. It’s more along the lines of what is balanced and what isn’t. That’s like saying “if you don't like armor lock being used against you, that's your problem.” Things like the jet pack, armor lock, promethean vision, and the boltshot are unbalanced and annoying regardless of who uses them. They break the flow of gameplay (usually by slowing it down) and, in the case of the jetpack, map flow. There’s a reason why I said it shouldn’t be an item the player starts with but rather something that must be obtained on the map and have limited use. It’ll help keep players on the ground longer rather than spamming it, which would help balance gameplay. As for sprint, it’s going to be difficult to get rid of it now if we’re still playing as Spartan-IV, since the gen-II armor has a “built-in” sprint module. As for a particular playlist, it could be eliminated, but you have to hope 343i does that for us (which is unlikely since they have yet to do it in Halo 4, at least to my knowledge). Having both equipment and armor abilities at the same time might be a bit hectic (almost like having sprint and jetpack at the same time). Honestly, I’m not sure what to say about that. It could be balanced and help give some variety to gameplay. Giving the Mantis flight capability maybe over doing it but maybe restrict it to campaign. Dual wielding is a bit of a mixed bag. I would say in MP, restrict it to weapons like the magnum and plasma pistol, that aren’t that powerful on their own.
+::We've seen concept art of Thorne on Fireteam Osiris. I do have to wonder, was the original plan for Osiris to ''be'' Majestic? I can definitely understand replacing them, even with the original plan to keep Thorne, who is the only character Spartan Ops introduced that I like and who has earned the right, in my book, to call himself Spartan material. I do wonder what 343 plan to do with Majestic in the future, now that Osiris is their "primary" S-IV team. Will they be kept to future comics? A book series? A retooled Spartan Ops campaign? -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:02, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
-:By the way, how come you never post your signature with four <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>? I couldn’t tell who posted the comment at first.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:04, 14 November 2013 (EST)
+I've been gone for quite some time; I'll get to that later in another forum soon. For now, I came across someone who has played the game and has pretty good explanations for why Halo 5's campaign is "weak", or bad. Mind you, I don't have the game and have yet to get a XboxOne (was planning on getting a XboxOne S but that may be delayed now). However, after watching these videos, I have to agree with him and have learned a lot more about Halo 5 that has made me very disappointed in the direction 343i has taken the series. The first video highlights an issue that I've been having with the expanded material 343i has been releasing long before Halo 5 was released. In fact I stopped buying escalation issues (can't remember what issue I stopped at), so I'm seriously behind. But at this point of time it doesn't matter. I'll get into later. For now here are the videos:
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwwyb_5jJHc Part 1]
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWzBXsiNwsQ Part 2]
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dKdenOPGjA Part 3]
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5LJGjGg9aY Part 4]
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itYjIGo33zo Part 5]
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND94RYg7Nd8 Part 6]
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahRDm9Bwlyc Angry Joe H5 Review]
+:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_409135537&feature=iv&src_vid=ahRDm9Bwlyc&v=wVHqrH-_LAw Angry Joe H5 Extended Review]
+Please watch all four parts (they'll be a part 5 whenever he post it) for a thorough explanation as to why Halo 5's campaign is bad before commenting.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 09:26, 11 October 2016 (EDT)
-See, I just gotta disagree with you on the jetpack. I thought it was actually enhanced gameplay. The deal with armor lock was that it a was completely unrealistic armor ability that was implemented terribly. Sure the jetpack needs some buffing, some adjustments, but I would hate to see it scrapped from armor abilities.
+==Cutscene Inconsistencies==
-Same thing with built-in sprint; I rather like it.
+Not real sure how many have noticed it, and its not really an issue, but in both the intro and ending cutscenes to the first mission of the game, we get shown Fireteam Osiris kicking ass, and taking names. Nothing wrong with that, but I noticed something, and its been bugging me ever since. Vale. In both the beginning cutscene (when she boards a phantom, and engages a elite in close combat) and ending cutscene (where she humiliates an elite so bad, he falls head first off a cliff) to the first mission, she is shown using a Magnum. Now, ordinarily, I'd have no issue with that, but we all know that her standard loadout is a SMG and a plasma pistol so, where is this magnum coming from? Now, I know its possible that ALL Spartans can carry a extra magnum on their person, but still, it just bothered me. That's the only one that really stuck out to me, but do you guys find any other inconsistencies with th4e cutscenes in the game, and tell me what you think of them (including the one I found).
+Siphon 117 18:22, 3 November 2015 (EST)
-On the rest of the stuff I pretty much agree with you, Killamint: armor abilities and equipment could be a little messy. In the end, though. it's all about how it's implemented. 343 could do a great job, and it could turn out to completely change the series. Or (the more likely version) it could be way too cluttered, and be a complete mess. I'm not sure I trust 343 that much.
+She had a magnum when the cut scene started, Tanaka handed her one so that is not an inconsistency. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 19:38, 3 November 2015 (EST)
-Flying Mantis? How about a jump? that would let it clear some annoying obstacles, without being overly much.
-Now, dual wielding is another thing that could go either well, or terribly. The thing that made it work in Halo 3 was that there was a whole class of weapons for dual wielding. There was the pistol, the plasma pistol, the SMG, the plasma rifle, the spiker, and the Mauler. That's 6 weapons that could be dual wielded. 343 would have to come up with a similar (please don't cut and paste those weapons) lineup of weapons to make dual wielding work. It's just not going to work the same with only a couple.  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:01, 14 November 2013 (EST)
-:Fine, I took jetpacks off the list as an armor ability to take out the game just to clarify things but I still don't agree that it enhances gameplay. Don't get me wrong, its fun to use and definitely fine in campaign but I just find it annoying when I'm shooting someone and on the verge of killing them but all of a sudden they "take off" mad high so now I have to point straight up, making it difficult for me to pull off the kill. But whatever. After playing Reach last week I've been learning how to deal with jetpackers (and armor-lockers) and I've won most if not all firefights against them (at least while they were in the air). Moving on, a "jump" ability for the Mantis seems more suitable than flight capability so I agree with you there. As for dual wielding, I think limiting the number of weapons that can be dual wielded is a good thing, especially when most other weapons are just fine by themselves...no need for spray-and-pray in the next game.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 06:31, 15 November 2013 (EST)
+Must have missed it, but still when you start the game, you have a SMG and a Plasma pistol, no magnum in sight. But as I said, not really a problem. Siphon 117 20:23, 3 November 2015 (EST)
-May I suggest scratching out the "removed" ideas instead of moving them off the list? That tells new readers what '''was''' on the list. Something else to add is more unique easter eggs! It adds replay value to the game, makes the game more exciting, and shows how much effort was put into the game. I loved the RvB radio in Spartan Ops, but there's barely anything in the campaign (Limited Edition wasn't original, and double rainbow doesn't feel like an easter egg and more like an addition to the environment). —<span style="font-family: Eurostile;">'''[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:#000;">SPARTAN</span>]][[User talk:Spartan331|<span style="color:#888;">331</span>]]'''</span> 10:56, 15 November 2013 (EST)
+She could have easily ran out of ammo and picked up a plasma pistol from one of the two dead Jackals. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 20:41, 3 November 2015 (EST)
-:Actually that is a good idea to scratch them out but instead what I'll do is create a removed ideas list - I just wanna keep the list clean I guest. But the easter eggs, I totally forgot about! Halo 4's campaign easter eggs SUCKED (they were mostly weak weapon drops) and seemed too complicated to activate/find IMO. I'll definitely add that to the list!--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:38, 15 November 2013 (EST)
+Okay, and? She starts off EVERY mission with a SMG and a Plasma Pistol, including the 4rth and 5th mission, which hasn't a single covenant in sight. Explain that one. Siphon 117 22:50, 3 November 2015 (EST)
-:Easter Eggs! How could we have forgotten about that? definitely.
+Plasma weaponry is (apparently) easy to recharge, considering how she only has a SMG, she would find a use for the noob combo with the PP and SMG, or since she has an interest in Sangheili culture and language, she modified her own armour to hold both PP and a magnum, who can truthfully say? [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 22:53, 3 November 2015 (EST)
-:Wait, the Mammoth in MP is up for debate? I thought that was an AWESOME idea! You gotta at least have it for the 16v.16 battle. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 23:12, 15 November 2013 (EST)
-::Yeah I'll go ahead and add that back. It is a great idea. I also added 16v16 to the list. Not sure if I would ever play that though if they made it - may be too chaotic for me lol.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 05:12, 16 November 2013 (EST)
+Still, it just seems off that in almost every other occasion, she is seen with the SMG and Plasma Pistol, but in the 2 opening cutscenes, she uses a Magnum. As I've said already, not really an issue, but why would she have a magnum if her loadout is a SMG and a Plasma Pistol? Anyway, it doesn't matter, just something I thought would be interesting to note. Siphon 117 23:01, 3 November 2015 (EST)
-I disagree with the removal of the Covenant Carbine. I personally find that its gameplay is different enough from the other marksmen rifles that it could be kept. I mean, it is a nice medium-ranged, single-shot rifle that has great rate of fire while having somewhat lacking magazine capacity to balance it out (Kills faster than the BR, but doesn't have the potential to kill as many people with a single magazine). I especially would like to keep it if there are going to be Spartans vs. Elites games, where it would make a counterpart to the BR while having the Needle Rifle a counterpart to the DMR.
-Speaking about Spartans and Elites, I like how they were handled in Reach over 2 and 3. The Elites played a little differently than the Spartans did, had access to different weaponry, and were actually kind of fun. However, make their games more easily accessed than Reach: Like give make a Spartan vs. Elite or Elite only playlists.
+:The weapons are generally inconsistent in cutscenes, often not having any attachments at all (meaning scopes), and Kelly and Linda's randomly do and don't have their paint schemes. There's also Locke losing his BR then having it next time they're in gameplay. Or Chief having full ammo right after boarding Argent Moon, something they actually did right in ODST. On the flip side, Osiris actually has different weapons than normal in the first mission just so they can line up with the opening cutscene properly, which is nice. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 01:20, 5 November 2015 (EST)
-As for the flamethrower, I would like to see it being like Killzone 2's: Has some range, but the napalm arcs. Let's face it, Halo 3's flamethrower was only slightly above useless. [[User:Missing Mandible|Missing Mandible]] ([[User talk:Missing Mandible|talk]]) 15:08, 19 November 2013 (EST)
+==Cortana's Motivation, and possible corruption==
-:The problem with the Covenant carbine is that its pretty much an alien DMR with the only "distinguishing" factors being that it fires faster, has 2x zoom, and has colorful ammo. Other than that its not that much different from the DMR in that it operates in the same manner - basically a single-shot pinpoint weapon that has to be reloaded. The Needle Rifle is more distinguishable since it can super-combine in targets making it more of a counterpart to the DMR than the covie carbine. Having both the needle rifle and carbine would be too redundant especially if we have the BR & DMR & LR IMO - five weapons that fill the same purpose and operate almost the same. The same can be said about the rocket launcher, fuel rod gun, and incinerator cannon - IMO they're all "rocket launchers", just with different colored ammo, firing rates, and slighly different power ratings. The fuel rod gun was distinguishable until they eliminated the arcing projectile thing it did in H1 in all subsequent Halo games.
+I'm sure I'm not the only one to think that the ending of Halo 5 is, shall I say, disconcerting, and more importantly, confusing. Why does Cortana suddenly want to control the galaxy, even going so far as to put Chief and Blue team into a cryptum for 10,000 years to secure her rule. I have a theory, and its already been discussed in a video. Link: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jPoZQxwC5U/>
-:As for Elites, I disagree with you. The Elites shouldn't play different from Spartans because it makes S vs. E games unbalanced. As someone said before me, the only difference they should have is slightly more health (due to they're larger size) and thats it. That would allow people to choose to play as Elites in ANY gametype. Plus, IMO, its fun to see different species going up against another in a free for all rather than the mundane Spartans vs. Elites, Elites vs. Elites, Spartans vs. Spartans - why not Spartans/Elites vs. Spartans/Elites? Plus Reach took away all the armor permuations making them less customizable. SO I rather have it like it was in Halo 2 & 3.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:44, 21 November 2013 (EST)
-::I think that the Fuel Rod Gun is a different beast from the rocket launcher. The bouncing projectiles mean you have to actually hit the target instead of shooting the ground and killing them with the splash. I'd definitely say they're both relevant within the same sandbox. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 22:01, 27 November 2013 (EST)
+I'm not going to repeat everything said in the video, but he does bring up good points, and is, as far as I'm concerned, a very plausible theory. Of course, at this point, its just a theory, so I'll leave it at that. I myself don't have much else to say on the topic, what do you guys think? Ideas, theories of your own, anything that may make any sense.
+Siphon 117 17:57, 6 December 2015 (EST)
-:::I forgot about that bounce effect thing but even then the scattershot does the same thing and is still hardly different from the UNSC shotgun. I just think the least 343i needs to do is add the arc effect again which would add a lil challenge to using the weapon at the same time make it more distinct from the rocket launcher.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 10:16, 28 November 2013 (EST)
+The video's theory is flawed. I have also see these theories before. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 18:08, 6 December 2015 (EST)
-::::Yes, but as I said, the bouncing prevents the Fuel Rod from being used the same way as the rocket launcher. There already is a challenge with using the weapon, you have to land a direct hit with a non-hitscan weapon with one of the slower projectile speeds. I feel that the fuel rod plays significantly different from the rocket launcher. As opposed to the rocket launcher being to easily take out one or more target per shot with its splash damage, with only a few shots to be used, the Fuel Rod is to take out a target a shot with direct hits, and with several shots available. With its ability to take out targets faster, I feel like the FRG tends to play a bit more aggressively, while the rocket launcher, with the less shots available and the reliance on splash damage needing you to be sure a surface to shoot at is available, encourages defensive play. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 12:40, 28 November 2013 (EST)
+Aaaaannnnnndddddd? Anything else to say, or that it? I never said it was flawless, just that it has good points.Siphon 117 20:10, 6 December 2015 (EST)
-:::::You convinced me, I got nothing else to say there. I still want the arc effect back though.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:02, 1 December 2013 (EST)
+In the game they made it seem like the reason Cortana decided to attempt to take control of the galaxy was because she could now do "long term planning" just as the Forerunners did. Halsey showed her concern over what Cortana might do with this power since she is basically a digital clone of Halsey (further reinforcing the idea that Cortana is not corrupted and has always wanted to do this but lacked the capability). We don't understand exactly how AI technology works in the Haloverse, but in the real world computers run on a series of algorithms and it's really not possible for a program to disobey or change their programming. But Cortana is unique. We know that Cortana was constructed from living tissue meaning that her programming (decision making, thinking, etc.) is much more similar to a human being. But human beings are still a series of algorithms, the only difference is that our algorithms tell us to serve ourselves (self preservation) while a computer program just does whatever its creators tell it to do.
-::::::Eh, why not. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 13:31, 1 December 2013 (EST)
+With all that said, the theory still brings up a good point about the Domain and the fact that it isn't destroyed. So let's list a few things before we consider the possibilities. Firstly, we know that the Forerunners aren't extinct and that a sizable amount survived the halo rings taking refuge inside shield worlds. We can only assume that they have since left the galaxy (perhaps they discovered new slipspace technology that could allow them to travel to the Andromeda galaxy or perhaps they finally figured out how to use the composer on themselves without leaving them deformed or corrupted). Secondly, we know that the Precursors also aren't extinct. Maybe this is more or less debatable but as far as I'm concerned, the Precursors ARE Flood and the Flood aren't extinct. Thirdly, the Domain isn't a physical construct with a physical location, meaning it can be accessed anywhere--including outside the range of the halo rings. This could mean that only the data uploaded to the Domain from the Milky Way was destroyed, and the Domain in this part of the universe was wiped clean (but not destroyed).
-Okay, this just needs to be said: BRING BACK INVASION. I think Elites should be a little different. I would say the should be bigger, walk faster, and have a more powerful melee attack. The better health is a good idea too. After all, aren't the elites described in the book as being more than a match for John? I agree, the Needle rifle and carbine are too similar. Halo: Reach worked well with just 2 medium-long range weapons. [[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 12:07, 22 November 2013 (EST)
+So as to whether or not the Forerunners or the Precursors installed a logic plague in the Domain in order to corrupt Cortana to take control of the galaxy, it's certainly a valid possibility, it's just that I can't imagine why either would do this. To be fair, the Precursors do make extremely complex plans that are not at all easy to predict. But until I can see better evidence or reasoning I'm just going to assume Cortana changed on her own accord. Though I will admit that there is something off about the entire thing. The rest of the lore in the universe is all leading to a huge reveal about the Forerunners or Precursors so it's really not crazy to think that there's more to what's happening to Cortana than simply the fact that she wants to take control. -- [[User:Dustin Nugget|Dustin Nugget]] ([[User talk:Dustin Nugget|talk]]) 05:05, 7 December 2015 (EST)
-:Invasion was my favourite gametype in ''Halo: Reach''. I'd love it if they brought it back in the next game. I'd rather have Invasion than Spartan Ops...--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 12:12, 22 November 2013 (EST)
-:I agree that Invasion should return. However, like I said above, Elites shouldn't be that much different, if different at all, from spartans, from a gameplay perspective. I think allowing them to have higher stats in most areas will cause in-balance in the game. Maybe a little more health to compensate for their larger size & covie weapons being generally weaker than human weapons. I was just fine when playing gears of war where the locust horde and cogs had the same stats but only differed aesthetically. Why not maintain the same thing in Halo? Also its best not to incorporate everything that was written in the books into gameplay - take a look at Halo 4 itself: they eliminated Elites entirely simply because the spartans fight on-board the Infinity in a simulation. Gamers who are only interested in the multiplayer won't give a rats-yoink!- about the story behind multiplayer. They're only interested in gameplay and if its missing, the complaints will start pouring in.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:58, 24 November 2013 (EST)
+:Somewhat related... has anyone tried asking [[wikipedia:Cortana (software)|Cortana]] why she acted the way she did? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  10:44, 10 December 2015 (EST)
-I went ahead and added another thing to the list. A youtube poster suggested we be able to play as other covie species in maybe separate playlist. An example would be grunt slayer where everyone plays as grunts. It would add some diversity and another challenge to the game rather than just playing as just spartans, which can be boring after a while. Also it may be possible to play as Brutes in any playlist since they can be considered equivalent to Spartans & Elites (similar stats) but not sure if players would like to play as them. Could also play as insurrectionist which would be interesting.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 10:30, 28 November 2013 (EST)
+::Nothing on Google from what I've found, and I can't ask her myself. {{Plain|[https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/if-you-ask-cortana-on-your-phone-about-halo-5/9913346d-af9a-4bd8-9d92-4c04eac31da9/posts I'll ask around on Waypoint.]}} [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 15:01, 10 December 2015 (EST)
-Alright, so two things: 1, I vote against bringing back dual wielding, and 2, can we put up weapon ideas? '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 12:42, 28 November 2013 (EST)
+::Aw, apparently she just responds with a web search. Unless that's somehow part of her nefarious plan... [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:23, 10 December 2015 (EST)
-:Duly noted. I moved dual wielding to the "up for debate" section. As for weapon ideas I created a "New Weapon/AA Ideas" section. Feel free to fill it up. I already placed some of my ideas.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:02, 1 December 2013 (EST)
+:::Maybe they are waiting a bit before they do something with it so they don't spoil it... ''crosses fingers''. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:44, 10 December 2015 (EST)
-::Mine are up now as well. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 13:31, 1 December 2013 (EST)
+::::[https://twitter.com/Pope_of_Shizlam/status/706647341088972804 Apparently phone Cortana might be awakening]. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:29, 6 March 2016 (EST)
-[[File:Quad-Walker.jpg|right|thumb]]
+I heard it suggested once that that was the same tune 343 hummed. Any clues there? --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 22:27, 5 January 2016 (EST)
-Now this is something that should be in the next game. The Quad-Walker has 2 plasma cannons and looks similar to the scarab walker. I wouldn't have an issue with it if it were implemented in the H5. I've been wanting to see UNSC reversed-engineered tech in the Halo games other than energy shields. I want to see some energy weapons other than the Spartan laser. So hopefully 343i gets to it.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:44, 16 January 2014 (EST)
-:''Another'' ONI vehicle? There's no way 343 lets Mega Bloks just make up vehicles for no reason, especially not a whole new series of them. ONI as (somewhat) its own faction is looking more and more likely. That or an ONI-based side game. Also, the SMG definitely needs to come back. Aside from the hole left because of its absence, Halo 4 got the weapon sandbox perfect. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 21:25, 16 January 2014 (EST)
-::Added SMG's to the list. I agree though, there's no way Mega Bloks can just make up vehicles left & right. 343i has to have some direction with these toys. As for an ONI-based side game, I don't think so. Now the H4 weapon sandbox, balance-wise, its perfect. As for weapon types, no. It's too redundant. Just copy-pasted weapons across all factions. Basically no creativity whatsoever with the promethean weapons.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 13:02, 17 January 2014 (EST)
+:It isn't. It is the song from the very beginning of the game, however. --[[User:Japeth555|Japeth555]] ([[User talk:Japeth555|talk]]) 23:07, 5 January 2016 (EST)
-:::They are indeed a bit redundant. Equivalent but unique weapons would be better, Sniper Rifle/Focus Rifle instead of Sniper Rifle/Beam Rifle as an example. What I meant by "perfect" in this case is all the roles are filled (minus the SMG), not talking about uniqueness. For standard rifles you have a pair per role: two long, two mid-long, two mid-close, <strike>two</strike> one close, one human and one alien per class, but missing the SMG, that's my issue. Also because the SMG (functionally the Halo: CE AR) has been missing since ODST. Spartan Assault's use of stuff from all across the games is a good sign though, I always want to see more of that. 343 has been very good about making the Halo universe a very interconnected one, where the novels, comics, live action stuff, and all that are just as much a part of the story as the games; they're not a lower level of canon. That's something that I hope they continue. I suppose that's not a thing to improve, but I do feel its important. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 18:20, 17 January 2014 (EST)
+::[[Préludes No. 4: Les sons et les parfums tournent dans l'air du soir|This is the specific song.]] -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:15, 6 January 2016 (EST)
-Alright, I'm going to throw in my next two cents here. I personally want Dual Wielding back, as it gave the weapon's sandbox a little more variety in terms of combat. You could in Halo 3 feasibly pair up a Mauler or SMG with a Magnum, for the usual noob combo, or go full on dual Maulers for brutal CQC. For Halo 5, or whatever it's going to be called, I would like the SMG, Plasma Rifle, Needler, Magnum, Plasma Pistol, Bolt Shot, and maybe a brand new weapon. Now, I know that both the Needler and Bolt Shot are both really powerful, and can be spammed, but so can the rocket launcher. Anyway, I would also like to see the Brute weapons return, especially the Mauler and Bruteshot. As for other weapons, bring back the sentinel beam, and bring in a usable flame thrower. Vehicle related, I would like to see the Cobra, Wolverine, Locust, Vampire, Hornet, and the AA Wraith. For these kinds of vehicles, I would also like to see a huge, wide open map designed with large team based vehicular combat as the main focus. For that kind of thing, I would want at least 32 players maximum. It being on the next gen console, I don't see why they can't do that. For the competitive minded, Make the DMR with its 5 shot kill more accurate than the BR at longer range, and make the BR's spread greater the longer the range is. That way, the BR would be for more close-mid range combat, while the DMR will be for mid-long range combat. Also, make all none beam based weapons not hit scan, as bullets do actually take time to travel to their target. Make it like Halo 3 in that regard in my opinion. Next, we need a Covenant ground vehicle that can stand up to the Scorpion, let alone the Mantis. For that, I say we need the above mentioned Locust, or maybe a Mantis style Covenant mecha suit, like maybe a mecha version of a Hunter, but with shields. I would say more, but I'll cut it at that. Siphon 117 00:40, 25 January 2014 (EST)
+:::That must be a fun thing to link on articles. But more on subject I still like the theory that the Cortana we see in H5G is just her rampant personality spikes reformed into one being by Friendzone Eternal.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:23, 6 January 2016 (EST)
-:Lol you already said dual wielding. I left it under "up for debate" due to balance reasons especially if you're talking about dual wielding Bolt Shots (i.e. overpowered x2). Added brute weapons and Halo wars vehicles to the list.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:34, 28 February 2014 (EST)
+:::Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up. I really should have gotten that Debussy reference. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 12:31, 6 January 2016 (EST)
-What if I told you...the Jetpack and Join in progress is fine the way it is? If anything join in progress needs to be fixed where it'll actually give your team more players even after the "beginning" of the match. I've had too many games where it's a manhunt for one player. I also like the custom classes with the exception of people spawning and then camping with Boltshot.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 14:00, 28 February 2014 (EST)
+So, guys, here's possible evidence pointing towards Cortana being infected by the Logic Plague. Link: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNU2ZeAi-Vw>
-:This is going to be long. Don't get me wrong, the jetpack is fun to use but it breaks map flow. It's one thing if players aren't given jetpack from the beginning (or any other armor abilities for that matter) & are forced to cycle around the map for it, and had limited use (so it couldn't be spammed like armor-lock). I think that would help balance it out a lot better. Otherwise it would be just fine the way it is in a social playlist where its not as competitive. And that brings me to join-in-progress. It's the worst when you're thrown into a losing match and you have no idea where the players are, and those players might have power weapons locked down. It's not even fair for the winning team if their opponents switch in the middle of battle where you might wound up with greater skilled players. So I would restrict it to social playlist. As for a manhunt, usually the last player quits (unless he's brave). Although there was a time where it was just me & another player vs 4, and we still won (I have proof), but that depends on the skill of the players.
+First, watch the video all the way through, then come back here, and post your comments.
+Anyway, this, which is official content (albeit, from a not so well known source), very heavily points towards Cortana being infected with Logic Plague, which has been speculated for awhile now. What do you guys think?
+Siphon 117 22:56, 30 November 2017 (EST)
-:When it comes to custom classes, its a mixed bag for me. I absolutely agree with you about camping w/ Boltshots. The problem is that custom classes create "player preferred patterns" (I give credit to Dark Sangheili for this one). Players are given the right tools for ANY situation. Big team battle - just equip yourself w/ a plasma pistol & grenades against vehicles. Regular battle - just equip yourself w/ a DMR & Boltshot. And that was the main problem w/ Halo 4. Too many & unbalanced weapons that you could spawn with. It would've been better if it were limited to 2 primary weapon choices (can't say secondary because of the plasma pistol & boltshot), which would promote cycling around the map for better weapons. This is more competitive & fun IMO compared to being given the weapons. And choices of perks, grenades, & aa's, and tying these "unlockables" to rank made it unbalanced.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 08:18, 1 March 2014 (EST)
+==Bastion==
+Any idea what the Bastion in the [[Mission Intel]] is or what it means for the future? --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 12:37, 6 January 2016 (EST)
-==Thoughts on the [[Halo 5: Guardians|Reveal]]==
+You have access to the same amount of information regarding Bastion, a Forerunner was looking for it and it might be a person if I remember correctly. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - [[Blue Team|Team Chief]] 17:57, 6 January 2016 (EST)
-[[File:Halo5 2D RP-Boxshot FOB RGB Final.png|150px|right]]
-Considering how much time has past, I'm very happy to see 343i reveal their latest project in more detail. I actually have high hopes for the game and I'm reconsidering purchasing the XboxOne (especially since they plan on reducing the price to $399 next month). I'm really digging the new box art.
-[[File:H5 TeaserArt ONI operative.jpg|left|90px]]And I'm really digging the new armor (despite all the bad things I hate about the new GEN2 armor overall). It's very interesting especially seeing the ONI insignia slapped on the armor. And I like the fact that the game has a subtitle. However, why do I get the feeling that the subtitle is kind of another Destiny reference? First we had MC's "cloak". Now the name of the game reflects the characters you play in Destiny (It caught me off guard just like how "Spartan Ops" did in regards to "Spec Ops"). IDK, just seemed kind of suspect. But nonetheless, I'm fine w/ the title. As for the box art, I have two theories in regards to the story, & I'll keep them brief. The top character could be MC wearing new armor w/ a reflection of his past self at the bottom. Or it could be a new character who has something to do with MC and we may be playing as him & as MC similar to how we played two roles in Halo 2. So those are just my thoughts on the new reveal. Opinions? Thoughts on the reveal? Post them here.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:51, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
-The Sangheili statue in the released concept art is intriguing. If we ''do'' get to visit Sanghelios (as the atmosphere, architecture and two moons would suggest), you can only imagine my squeals of excitement. A renunciation of the antagonisation of the former-Covenant species—which has seemingly been a staple of newer media as of late—would be a welcome addition. Seeing an ONI main character will be most interesting, although kinda scary considering their massive power increase in the post-war era. The character above John is a [https://twitter.com/JoshingtonState/status/467343003385098240 new character], so it's definitely not John himself or any characters we already know—I'm placing my bets on a dual campaign, which would be a nice throwback to ''Halo 2''. Overall, I can't say I'm ''too'' excited. I'm still kinda recovering from the awfulness of ''Kilo-Five'' and the disappointment of newer ''Escalation'' issues. :/ —<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 13:17, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
+Mmmkay. I was afraid I'd missed something. I haven't read the recent novels or comics.--[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:54, 6 January 2016 (EST)