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==seperation from arbiter, johnson, and miranda== | ==seperation from arbiter, johnson, and miranda== | ||
how come 343 does not apear in halo 3 until the the 5th level even though he was with johnson, miranda, and the arbiter at the end of halo 2? | how come 343 does not apear in halo 3 until the the 5th level even though he was with johnson, miranda, and the arbiter at the end of halo 2? | ||
:Spark stayed behind at Delta Halo to help Rtas 'Vadumee hold quarantine. [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[ | :Spark stayed behind at Delta Halo to help Rtas 'Vadumee hold quarantine. [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#6495ED">əґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="6495ED">ыţ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#00BFFF">єґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#87CEEB">ιιб</font>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Arbiter116|<font color="#008080">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Arbiter116|<font color="#66CDAA">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</sub></small> • <small><sup> [http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:ViewSystemGifts&user=Arbiter116 <font color="#228B22">'''AWARDS'''</font>]</sup></small> | ||
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Don't you guys think that his death was... unfitting for the sarge? I mean, taken out by a monitor... that sucks... I wanted him to go out with a bang.. I mean, if he activated the halos AFTER the flood had injured him... I'd like that death... but... taken out by 343?! Come on Bungie! You guys could've done better... [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | Don't you guys think that his death was... unfitting for the sarge? I mean, taken out by a monitor... that sucks... I wanted him to go out with a bang.. I mean, if he activated the halos AFTER the flood had injured him... I'd like that death... but... taken out by 343?! Come on Bungie! You guys could've done better... [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah it was too sudden and undignified for someone of his experience. It looked to me like Bungie squeezed it in at the last second ("oh what the hell, deadline's almost here, let's just kill him off the easy way"). Still, just another one of Halo 3's screwups... [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[ | :Yeah it was too sudden and undignified for someone of his experience. It looked to me like Bungie squeezed it in at the last second ("oh what the hell, deadline's almost here, let's just kill him off the easy way"). Still, just another one of Halo 3's screwups... [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#6495ED">əґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="6495ED">ыţ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#00BFFF">єґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#87CEEB">ιιб</font>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Arbiter116|<font color="#008080">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Arbiter116|<font color="#66CDAA">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</sub></small> • <small><sup> [http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:ViewSystemGifts&user=Arbiter116 <font color="#228B22">'''AWARDS'''</font>]</sup></small> | ||
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Hey the mention of the two scripted un-avoidable deaths in halo CE seem to have been removed. Why is that? I Think it proves the Sarge can survive ever scriped deaths. HE WILL RETURN DAMMIT!! Please dont shoot that down, leave me my theories please.[[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 21:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC) | Hey the mention of the two scripted un-avoidable deaths in halo CE seem to have been removed. Why is that? I Think it proves the Sarge can survive ever scriped deaths. HE WILL RETURN DAMMIT!! Please dont shoot that down, leave me my theories please.[[User:SargeLIVES|SargeLIVES]] 21:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Johnson's body fell off the platform. If he survived that, you'll remember the ring blew up, and the Ark destroyed. Let's see you getting back from that. And you see him die up-close, while in Halo CE the last thing you see him doing is hugging an Elite (and that's not even canon). [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[ | :Johnson's body fell off the platform. If he survived that, you'll remember the ring blew up, and the Ark destroyed. Let's see you getting back from that. And you see him die up-close, while in Halo CE the last thing you see him doing is hugging an Elite (and that's not even canon). [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#6495ED">əґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="6495ED">ыţ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#00BFFF">єґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#87CEEB">ιιб</font>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Arbiter116|<font color="#008080">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Arbiter116|<font color="#66CDAA">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</sub></small> • <small><sup> [http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:ViewSystemGifts&user=Arbiter116 <font color="#228B22">'''AWARDS'''</font>]</sup></small> | ||
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== Possible trivia == | == Possible trivia == | ||
In December of 2005, there was a killed-in-action African-American Master Sergeant named A. Johnson. Though this is probably coincidence, should this be noted? Out of the 3,200 dead soldiers in the Iraq War (which is a disappointment of a war if you ask me), the odds are low for an African-American solder to be be ranked as a Master Sergeant and have the initial "A." with the last name of "Johnson". | In December of 2005, there was a killed-in-action African-American Master Sergeant named A. Johnson. Though this is probably coincidence, should this be noted? Out of the 3,200 dead soldiers in the Iraq War (which is a disappointment of a war if you ask me), the odds are low for an African-American solder to be be ranked as a Master Sergeant and have the initial "A." with the last name of "Johnson". Chiafriend12 03:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
*No. For one thing, he was a [[Master Sergeant]], not a [[Sergeant Major]]. For another, he's dead. I don't think that fighting for his country earns him a mention in a trivia section. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | *No. For one thing, he was a [[Master Sergeant]], not a [[Sergeant Major]]. For another, he's dead. I don't think that fighting for his country earns him a mention in a trivia section. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306</font>]]''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 01:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Oh phooey, I always get the ranks of Master Sergeant and Sergeant Major mixed up. I don't mean to mention that the guy in Iraq died, I mean to mention the coincidence of name and rank, like they do on the [[Marcus_Banks#Trivia|Marcus Banks]] article. | ::Oh phooey, I always get the ranks of Master Sergeant and Sergeant Major mixed up. I don't mean to mention that the guy in Iraq died, I mean to mention the coincidence of name and rank, like they do on the [[Marcus_Banks#Trivia|Marcus Banks]] article. Chiafriend12 03:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
:What do you mean, he wasn't a Sergeant Major? They called him that several times in Halo 3. [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[ | :What do you mean, he wasn't a Sergeant Major? They called him that several times in Halo 3. [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#6495ED">əґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="6495ED">ыţ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#00BFFF">єґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#87CEEB">ιιб</font>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Arbiter116|<font color="#008080">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Arbiter116|<font color="#66CDAA">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</sub></small> • <small><sup> [http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:ViewSystemGifts&user=Arbiter116 <font color="#228B22">'''AWARDS'''</font>]</sup></small> | ||
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== Name == | == Name == | ||
<s>"Junior" is his middle name, hence the "Avery '''J.''' Johnson", not "Avery Johnson '''J.'''". Go to [[Halo Graphic Novel, Page 122]], hit cntrl+F (this works for Mozilla Firefox, but I don't know about other internet browsers), and enter "Johnson" in the pop-up search bar. If you scroll through all times the word "Johnson" is used, it's always as a last name, not a middle. Any time "Junior" is used, it's a middle name, not a last name.</s> | <s>"Junior" is his middle name, hence the "Avery '''J.''' Johnson", not "Avery Johnson '''J.'''". Go to [[Halo Graphic Novel, Page 122]], hit cntrl+F (this works for Mozilla Firefox, but I don't know about other internet browsers), and enter "Johnson" in the pop-up search bar. If you scroll through all times the word "Johnson" is used, it's always as a last name, not a middle. Any time "Junior" is used, it's a middle name, not a last name.</s> Chiafriend12 02:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Sorted out in #Halopedia. | :Sorted out in #Halopedia. Chiafriend12 03:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
*If we're using Junior like it is in Martin Luther King Junior, maybe we should move the page to Avery Johnson Jr.?--[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> 21:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC) | *If we're using Junior like it is in Martin Luther King Junior, maybe we should move the page to Avery Johnson Jr.?--[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> 21:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:His full name is Avery Johnson Junior. Trust me, I'm a junior too. :P -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font> | :His full name is Avery Johnson Junior. Trust me, I'm a junior too. :P -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font>]]</b> 21:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
*If Junior is his real last name, then why does he identify himself as "Avery J. Johnson" in First Strike, and referred to in Contact Harvest as "Staff Sergeant Johnson" instead of Staff Sergeant Junior?--[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> 22:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | *If Junior is his real last name, then why does he identify himself as "Avery J. Johnson" in First Strike, and referred to in Contact Harvest as "Staff Sergeant Johnson" instead of Staff Sergeant Junior?--[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] <sup>[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]</sup> 22:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:... Junior is a title, not a last name. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font> | :... Junior is a title, not a last name. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font>]]</b> 22:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
Is it known that the article and the discussion page have different names??? Please reach consensus and move accordingly. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 08:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC) | Is it known that the article and the discussion page have different names??? Please reach consensus and move accordingly. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 08:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Yo, can we get a reference for his height of 5'11? | Yo, can we get a reference for his height of 5'11? | ||
Oh, and PS, no way he died in 2553. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font> | Oh, and PS, no way he died in 2553. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font>]]</b> 01:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:How could he have not died in 2553? I'm not trying to say you're wrong, but you showed no reason he couldn't've died in 2553. | :How could he have not died in 2553? I'm not trying to say you're wrong, but you showed no reason he couldn't've died in 2553. Chiafriend12 02:36, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Halo 3 was in November/December 2552, as it took place only two weeks after Halo 2. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font> | ::Halo 3 was in November/December 2552, as it took place only two weeks after Halo 2. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font>]]</b> 02:42, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::I was under the impression it took place after an unspecified amount of time after Halo 2. I guessed three to four months. Where does it say that? I'd like to update my perspective on Halo's timeline. | :::I was under the impression it took place after an unspecified amount of time after Halo 2. I guessed three to four months. Where does it say that? I'd like to update my perspective on Halo's timeline. Chiafriend12 02:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Halo: Uprising. Oh, and according to 306, it occurs around November 9th. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font> | ::::Halo: Uprising. Oh, and according to 306, it occurs around November 9th. -- <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">Sgt.</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">johnson</font>]]</b> 02:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Locked? == | == Locked? == | ||
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==Rank== | ==Rank== | ||
I don't think Johnson was a Staff Sergeant for 27 years. I think it was more due to the fact that we didn't know what his rank change was over that period of time, and that he was more likely something like a First Sergeant due to his experience and reputation. Besides, you don't get a lot of promotions from a junior Sergeant to a senior one after a three-decade delay. [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[ | I don't think Johnson was a Staff Sergeant for 27 years. I think it was more due to the fact that we didn't know what his rank change was over that period of time, and that he was more likely something like a First Sergeant due to his experience and reputation. Besides, you don't get a lot of promotions from a junior Sergeant to a senior one after a three-decade delay. [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">—</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#6495ED">əґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="6495ED">ыţ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#00BFFF">єґ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#87CEEB">ιιб</font>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Arbiter116|<font color="#008080">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Arbiter116|<font color="#66CDAA">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</sub></small> • <small><sup> [http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:ViewSystemGifts&user=Arbiter116 <font color="#228B22">'''AWARDS'''</font>]</sup></small> | ||
It could be possibly that he got demoted. And just because you've been in the Marines for a long time doesn't mean you get promoted, it requireds leadership. | It could be possibly that he got demoted. And just because you've been in the Marines for a long time doesn't mean you get promoted, it requireds leadership. | ||
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If I didn't order preorder ODST, can I still purchase him or is it a lost oppurtinuty like mc helm? | If I didn't order preorder ODST, can I still purchase him or is it a lost oppurtinuty like mc helm? | ||
lost opertunity, sorry.-- | lost opertunity, sorry.--<small><span style="border: 1px purple; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General Paradox|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Blue; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General Paradox </span>''']][[User talk:General Paradox|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General Paradox|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General Paradox|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 00:20, December 30, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Some people bought multiple copies, one of my XBL friends just asked nicely at gamestop, and he got one, idk, check online. [[User talk:L33tmcphee|L33tmcphee]] 06:29, February 14, 2010 (UTC) | Some people bought multiple copies, one of my XBL friends just asked nicely at gamestop, and he got one, idk, check online. [[User talk:L33tmcphee|L33tmcphee]] 06:29, February 14, 2010 (UTC) | ||