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I think this should be renamed to Carrow Conflict because its more than just a simple battle.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 14:27, 16 January 2019 (EST)
I think this should be renamed to Carrow Conflict because its more than just a simple battle.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 14:27, 16 January 2019 (EST)
:As there is no conjecture template, I would assume that the battle is identified as such in the book or another source.--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 17:59, 16 January 2019 (EST)d9328
:As there is no conjecture template, I would assume that the battle is identified as such in the book or another source.--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 17:59, 16 January 2019 (EST)d9328
::Its not. No official name is actually given for it in the book. The only part of the battle that gets an official name is [[Operation: BUZZHAWK]] where the Surakans destroy the {{Class|ORS|heavy cruiser}} ''[[Foebane]]''. That's clearly called by name in one spot (only one though) and is a smaller part of the overall conflict. Its more than a simple battle for control of the planet as well. Its more like a mini-war. Near the end of the book, [[Rojka 'Kasaan]] calls it a war. Its pretty much part-civil war, part struggle with [[Hekabe]] and his faction. While talking with [[Akato 'Dakaj]], Rojka talks about how "during this war" he realized he might not see [[Rak]] again and then talks about how the war is over and enough blood has been shed and he no longer seeks vengeance against [[Gray Team|the Demon Three]]. Certainly the Rojka versus [[Thars 'Sarov]] is pretty much a civil war. It includes several different fights across the planet, only some of which are really chronicled. Parts of the space battle, part of the attack on Suraka, Operation: BUZZHAWK, the attack on the [[Sharquoi]] hive, the attack on [[Rak]] by Thars' hijacked ships (the hijacking being another part that's only briefly covered) that's only partly covered... Its more like a mini-war. Or like the [[Battle of Installation 04]] with all of those smaller battles making up one big conflict. I wouldn't go so far as to call it an actual war though.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 20:16, 16 January 2019 (EST)
::Its not. No official name is actually given for it in the book. The only part of the battle that gets an official name is [[Operation: BUZZHAWK]] where the Surakans destroy the {{Pattern|Varric|heavy cruiser}} ''[[Foebane]]''. That's clearly called by name in one spot (only one though) and is a smaller part of the overall conflict. Its more than a simple battle for control of the planet as well. Its more like a mini-war. Near the end of the book, [[Rojka 'Kasaan]] calls it a war. Its pretty much part-civil war, part struggle with [[Hekabe]] and his faction. While talking with [[Akato 'Dakaj]], Rojka talks about how "during this war" he realized he might not see [[Rak]] again and then talks about how the war is over and enough blood has been shed and he no longer seeks vengeance against [[Gray Team|the Demon Three]]. Certainly the Rojka versus [[Thars 'Sarov]] is pretty much a civil war. It includes several different fights across the planet, only some of which are really chronicled. Parts of the space battle, part of the attack on Suraka, Operation: BUZZHAWK, the attack on the [[Sharquoi]] hive, the attack on [[Rak]] by Thars' hijacked ships (the hijacking being another part that's only briefly covered) that's only partly covered... Its more like a mini-war. Or like the [[Battle of Installation 04]] with all of those smaller battles making up one big conflict. I wouldn't go so far as to call it an actual war though.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 20:16, 16 January 2019 (EST)
:::I haven't read the book myself (or anything like Mythos which might expand on the event in question) but just based on this information I think that the Carrow conflict might be a more fitting name, as it seems similar in scope to that of the Second Ark Conflict which also has the "conflict" name. Something like the "Conflict at Carrow" may also work. [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 20:31, 16 January 2019 (EST)
:::I haven't read the book myself (or anything like Mythos which might expand on the event in question) but just based on this information I think that the Carrow conflict might be a more fitting name, as it seems similar in scope to that of the Second Ark Conflict which also has the "conflict" name. Something like the "Conflict at Carrow" may also work. [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 20:31, 16 January 2019 (EST)
::::Exactly. The Second Ark Conflict is probably a good example. The infobox needs alteration as well since the [[Jiralhanae]] are ultimately a third faction in the conflict. They pretended to work with Thars to get to the planet then betrayed him when they thought he'd caught onto them. He actually hadn't fyi but their whole plan was to use the [[Sharquoi]] for themselves and they always had separate goals and plans.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 21:09, 16 January 2019 (EST)
::::Exactly. The Second Ark Conflict is probably a good example. The infobox needs alteration as well since the [[Jiralhanae]] are ultimately a third faction in the conflict. They pretended to work with Thars to get to the planet then betrayed him when they thought he'd caught onto them. He actually hadn't fyi but their whole plan was to use the [[Sharquoi]] for themselves and they always had separate goals and plans.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] ([[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|talk]]) 21:09, 16 January 2019 (EST)
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::Carrow Conflict like the Onxy and Ark Conflict pages. I'm mobile editing this and don't seem to have a way to do the signature thing by the way.
::Carrow Conflict like the Onxy and Ark Conflict pages. I'm mobile editing this and don't seem to have a way to do the signature thing by the way.
:::No worries, I'll get that sorted. You can do your signature by typing four tildes (this symbol: ~). Like so <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 08:55, October 20, 2019 (EDT)
:::No worries, I'll get that sorted. You can do your signature by typing four tildes (this symbol: ~). Like so <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 08:55, October 20, 2019 (EDT)
::::Done. I'm running my bot to replace links to the page so hopefully you won't need to do any major text replacements on other pages.[[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 08:56, October 20, 2019 (EDT)
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