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== Turbolaser-esque weaponry? == | |||
I was just watching ''The Package'' again on YouTube ('''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvHAoKei3wI here]'''), when noticed something quite odd with the laser fire coming from the ''Seraph''-class Starfighters. As seen at the end of ''The Package'', the Seraphs are depicted as firing two high recognizable purple plasma cannons. Though when the UNSC Stealth ship removes it's cloaking field, you can magically see blue-ish lasers coming from the bow of the ship. Unless each Covenant starfighter has customizable features, the only reasonable explanation is that the Human stealth ship has some sort of backwards-engineered plasma weaponry, or the ''Halo'' universe's version of ''Star Wars''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> "Turbolasers". | |||
Seems like the late '30s to '40s were pretty good to the Office of Naval Intelligence in terms of new technology. | |||
Rawr, | |||
<br />[[User:Grizzlei|CommanderTony]] | |||
We know that normal Prowlers had laser turrets in the '30s. I would imagine that whatever this ship is would have a similar system, if not improved - and as a prototype ship, it may very well have used plasma weapons. On the subject of turbolasers, the retroactive science behind them never made actual sense to me. But thats a post for another time, and another namespace... -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]]</b> - <i><b><u>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]</u></b></i> 06:50, December 16, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Stealth Bubble? == | |||
Is the Stealth Bubble considered canon? 'Cuz i didn't know either side had the ability to cloak entire ships and it seems a bit off that humans managed to get cloaking tech for that prowler but not for any of the troops e.g. Spartans with invisibility. Or is that just because its from Halo Legend?[[User talk:XW3 AR3 L3GION|XW3 AR3 L3GION]] 14:17, March 29, 2010 (UTC) | |||
: If anything, the stealth technology used on this ship is likely to be experimental, The ship is most likely a prototype test bed for new technologies reverse engineered from the Covenant. and likely rushed into service in order to rescue Doctor Halsey. Even if it did enter widespread use by 2552, Logistics would prevent every Prowler from carrying such a technology. the UNSC's problem wasn't that their technology didn't make huge bounds like cloaking and shields. just that they had far too many ships to even consider refitting them all with shields and the like. --[[User talk:WhellerNG|WhellerNG]] 22:44, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Nova bomb?== | |||
I know it is no way even mentioned but i think the ship may have been equipped with a Nova bomb[s]. I re-watched this episode recently and the Captain of the ship says to MC, when asked what happens when they run out of time, that he would be forced to destroy the Covenant fleet. Now this is more than likely just my brain trying to rationalise what is most probably just sloppy research on the writers part; but a Nova bomb is the only thing i can think of other than there being a fleet with a ratio of 10:1 of those ships in hiding that would make such a statement make sense. Otherwise that Captain was smoking some good weed and he thought that it was the Covenant who needed a 4:1 advantage in space combat. Conjecture or trivia section for a note on this? | |||
:They might have planned to lay a nuclear mine field. The HORNETs laid by the ''Dusk'' took out many Covenant vessels at Onyx, so it's possible. Then again, they might have used lots of Shivas. Personally, I think a NOVA would be enormous overkill. I do agree that it's ludricous for a single non-combat-oriented ship to wipe out an entire Covenant fleet. Maybe they planned to make a run against the flagship and do whatever damage they could before they were vaporized. Besides, I'm sure they considered it more important to either rescue Halsey or ''permanently'' keep her out of Covenant hands than to destroy around a dozen ships, as Halsey's capture was a much greater threat to the UNSC. Therefore, maybe the commander meant, "We'll neutralize the package and do whatever damage we can," rather than saying they would destroy the fleet. Nonetheless, I don't think it's worth mentioning in the trivia section. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 17:13, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Remember also that the solar phenomenon that was blocking the Covenant's slipspace drive, trapping them in-system, was also interfering with their shields. With no shields, the Covenant would have been sitting ducks to a nuclear strike, even by a single ship. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:04, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
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:In terms of relevant data, we have [http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive32.pl?read=955272 Frankie's comment] stating it's not a prowler. However, it's true there's definitely a resemblance, and the "PRO" in the serial number would seem to suggest it's a prowler, but since Frankie confirmed otherwise, we can't just go and contradict him unless a future canon source (or 343i employee) identifies the ship as a prowler. As for the camouflage, it's definitely not a conventional prowler cloaking system - the stealth coating on normal prowlers is merely based on photoreactive panel surfaces while this ship has a some sort of energy field that bends light, much like Covenant active camo. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 17:08, 27 August 2011 (EDT) | :In terms of relevant data, we have [http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive32.pl?read=955272 Frankie's comment] stating it's not a prowler. However, it's true there's definitely a resemblance, and the "PRO" in the serial number would seem to suggest it's a prowler, but since Frankie confirmed otherwise, we can't just go and contradict him unless a future canon source (or 343i employee) identifies the ship as a prowler. As for the camouflage, it's definitely not a conventional prowler cloaking system - the stealth coating on normal prowlers is merely based on photoreactive panel surfaces while this ship has a some sort of energy field that bends light, much like Covenant active camo. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 17:08, 27 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Okay. I will accept that, since it's coming from a former Bungie employee, now the 343i director Frank O'Connor, though I still think it should be otherwise. But that's just my opinion. But what about the so-called "unknown" directed energy weapons it had? Is there any available information on that? [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 17:16, 27 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
We do know that Prowlers at least are armed with pulse lasers - I would say that's probably what they are, just represented with a heavy dose of artistic license. Same goes for the active-camo technology [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 18:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:It looks almost identical to a Prowler. Frankie better have a good reason for this. xP -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 19:02, 9 December 2011 (EST) | |||
==Definitively Prowler ?== | |||
The [[UNSC Aladdin]] have been considered as a Prowler (though I don't remember it was said in SOPS). Since ONI PRO is likely in shapes, is it considered as a prowler, too ? <strong>[[User:Lunaramethyst|<span style="font:23px Segoe script; color:darkgreen;">Λ</span>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:Lunaramethyst|<span style="color:#4C997C">Want to speak ?</span>]]</sup> 18:16, 17 March 2013 (EDT) | |||
:[http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive32.pl?read=955272 No]. Why, not sure. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 21:58, 17 March 2013 (EDT) | |||
::Despite what Frankie said, it is. Can't be sure he was joking or not. The shape is the same as the Red Horse, so they are the same class. The one in Spartan Ops has a similar overall design but is much larger. All prowlers. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 20:32, 11 September 2013 (EDT) | |||
== I believe the energy weapons on this are pulse lasers == | |||
The reason why I believe that is although they were a different colour to the lasers being fired by the covenant seraph fighters they made a similar sound and had a similar shape to covenant seraph fighters and that oni prowlers also have pulse laser technology as well[[User:Spartan Matt|Spartan Matt]] ([[User talk:Spartan Matt|talk]]) 19:58, 11 September 2013 (EDT) | |||
== Definitely Prowler V2 == | |||
In light of the revelation of the {{UNSCShip|Port Stanley}}'s hull classification symbol as "PRO-46328", and the appearance of the ''Sahara''-class overall, I don't think there's any justification for assuming this ship isn't a prowler anymore. Frankie may have been just throwing something out, or his statement may have been 343i's intent back in 2009, but it seems fairly clear they've ignored it since. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 09:20, 9 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
:343i have changed a few minor details from Legends before. Looking at you [[Ralph-103]].-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 13:33, 9 October 2016 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 14:05, June 2, 2019
Turbolaser-esque weaponry?[edit]
I was just watching The Package again on YouTube (here), when noticed something quite odd with the laser fire coming from the Seraph-class Starfighters. As seen at the end of The Package, the Seraphs are depicted as firing two high recognizable purple plasma cannons. Though when the UNSC Stealth ship removes it's cloaking field, you can magically see blue-ish lasers coming from the bow of the ship. Unless each Covenant starfighter has customizable features, the only reasonable explanation is that the Human stealth ship has some sort of backwards-engineered plasma weaponry, or the Halo universe's version of Star Wars's "Turbolasers".
Seems like the late '30s to '40s were pretty good to the Office of Naval Intelligence in terms of new technology.
Rawr,
CommanderTony
We know that normal Prowlers had laser turrets in the '30s. I would imagine that whatever this ship is would have a similar system, if not improved - and as a prototype ship, it may very well have used plasma weapons. On the subject of turbolasers, the retroactive science behind them never made actual sense to me. But thats a post for another time, and another namespace... -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek 06:50, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
Stealth Bubble?[edit]
Is the Stealth Bubble considered canon? 'Cuz i didn't know either side had the ability to cloak entire ships and it seems a bit off that humans managed to get cloaking tech for that prowler but not for any of the troops e.g. Spartans with invisibility. Or is that just because its from Halo Legend?XW3 AR3 L3GION 14:17, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
- If anything, the stealth technology used on this ship is likely to be experimental, The ship is most likely a prototype test bed for new technologies reverse engineered from the Covenant. and likely rushed into service in order to rescue Doctor Halsey. Even if it did enter widespread use by 2552, Logistics would prevent every Prowler from carrying such a technology. the UNSC's problem wasn't that their technology didn't make huge bounds like cloaking and shields. just that they had far too many ships to even consider refitting them all with shields and the like. --WhellerNG 22:44, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Nova bomb?[edit]
I know it is no way even mentioned but i think the ship may have been equipped with a Nova bomb[s]. I re-watched this episode recently and the Captain of the ship says to MC, when asked what happens when they run out of time, that he would be forced to destroy the Covenant fleet. Now this is more than likely just my brain trying to rationalise what is most probably just sloppy research on the writers part; but a Nova bomb is the only thing i can think of other than there being a fleet with a ratio of 10:1 of those ships in hiding that would make such a statement make sense. Otherwise that Captain was smoking some good weed and he thought that it was the Covenant who needed a 4:1 advantage in space combat. Conjecture or trivia section for a note on this?
- They might have planned to lay a nuclear mine field. The HORNETs laid by the Dusk took out many Covenant vessels at Onyx, so it's possible. Then again, they might have used lots of Shivas. Personally, I think a NOVA would be enormous overkill. I do agree that it's ludricous for a single non-combat-oriented ship to wipe out an entire Covenant fleet. Maybe they planned to make a run against the flagship and do whatever damage they could before they were vaporized. Besides, I'm sure they considered it more important to either rescue Halsey or permanently keep her out of Covenant hands than to destroy around a dozen ships, as Halsey's capture was a much greater threat to the UNSC. Therefore, maybe the commander meant, "We'll neutralize the package and do whatever damage we can," rather than saying they would destroy the fleet. Nonetheless, I don't think it's worth mentioning in the trivia section. --"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 17:13, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
- Remember also that the solar phenomenon that was blocking the Covenant's slipspace drive, trapping them in-system, was also interfering with their shields. With no shields, the Covenant would have been sitting ducks to a nuclear strike, even by a single ship. -- Specops306 Autocrat Qur'a 'Morhek 22:04, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
Different Type of UNSC Prowler?[edit]
I don't know if everyone feels the same, but after seeing Halo Legends: The Package and The Mona Lisa on Halo Waypoint, it seems to me that aesthetically speaking, the UNSC Prowler Red Horse and ONI PRO-49776 looks almost identical to each other. And according to the UNSC Prowler article, prowlers are equipped with stealth ablative coating, which of course doubles as a kind of active camouflage (which is pretty much is in itself a kind of cloaking field device), which is, I believe, exactly what this ship has, and also is armed with a so-called "unknown" directed energy weapon system, which I believe is a variant of the pulse laser turret, which prowlers also have. Therefore, I strongly believe that this has to be a kind of prowler. If anyone agrees or disagrees, please present information on the how and why, or whatever data is relevant. Xamikaze330 16:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
- In terms of relevant data, we have Frankie's comment stating it's not a prowler. However, it's true there's definitely a resemblance, and the "PRO" in the serial number would seem to suggest it's a prowler, but since Frankie confirmed otherwise, we can't just go and contradict him unless a future canon source (or 343i employee) identifies the ship as a prowler. As for the camouflage, it's definitely not a conventional prowler cloaking system - the stealth coating on normal prowlers is merely based on photoreactive panel surfaces while this ship has a some sort of energy field that bends light, much like Covenant active camo. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 17:08, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
- Okay. I will accept that, since it's coming from a former Bungie employee, now the 343i director Frank O'Connor, though I still think it should be otherwise. But that's just my opinion. But what about the so-called "unknown" directed energy weapons it had? Is there any available information on that? Xamikaze330 17:16, 27 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
We do know that Prowlers at least are armed with pulse lasers - I would say that's probably what they are, just represented with a heavy dose of artistic license. Same goes for the active-camo technology SPARTAN-347 18:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
- It looks almost identical to a Prowler. Frankie better have a good reason for this. xP -TheLostJedi 19:02, 9 December 2011 (EST)
Definitively Prowler ?[edit]
The UNSC Aladdin have been considered as a Prowler (though I don't remember it was said in SOPS). Since ONI PRO is likely in shapes, is it considered as a prowler, too ? ΛWant to speak ? 18:16, 17 March 2013 (EDT)
- Despite what Frankie said, it is. Can't be sure he was joking or not. The shape is the same as the Red Horse, so they are the same class. The one in Spartan Ops has a similar overall design but is much larger. All prowlers. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 20:32, 11 September 2013 (EDT)
I believe the energy weapons on this are pulse lasers[edit]
The reason why I believe that is although they were a different colour to the lasers being fired by the covenant seraph fighters they made a similar sound and had a similar shape to covenant seraph fighters and that oni prowlers also have pulse laser technology as wellSpartan Matt (talk) 19:58, 11 September 2013 (EDT)
Definitely Prowler V2[edit]
In light of the revelation of the UNSC Port Stanley's hull classification symbol as "PRO-46328", and the appearance of the Sahara-class overall, I don't think there's any justification for assuming this ship isn't a prowler anymore. Frankie may have been just throwing something out, or his statement may have been 343i's intent back in 2009, but it seems fairly clear they've ignored it since. --Jugus (talk) 09:20, 9 October 2016 (EDT)