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I think the three metal plates under the Pillar Of Autumn could be its MAC canon, as described in Halo: The Fall of Reach --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 10:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC) | I think the three metal plates under the Pillar Of Autumn could be its MAC canon, as described in Halo: The Fall of Reach --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 10:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC) | ||
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i believe that either of the se woul be the place of the MAC b/c if you look how large the barrel is on the Super MACs, then this would have to be the location b/c the barrel would have to run almost the full length of the ship, b/c if it was at the bottom then it would be like firing a pistol at a blast door considering the amount of power that it would build up when in comparison to a MAC and a covvie cruiser, so it would need a much larger barrel e.g the 2 that are designated i would think it is the bottom of th e2 b/c it looks more barrel like and dark.(i suspect it is the same place on the marathons single MAC as there is no bottom part like the HAlcyons kk cheers,....... [[User:J!MMY8806|J!MMY8806]] 22:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | i believe that either of the se woul be the place of the MAC b/c if you look how large the barrel is on the Super MACs, then this would have to be the location b/c the barrel would have to run almost the full length of the ship, b/c if it was at the bottom then it would be like firing a pistol at a blast door considering the amount of power that it would build up when in comparison to a MAC and a covvie cruiser, so it would need a much larger barrel e.g the 2 that are designated i would think it is the bottom of th e2 b/c it looks more barrel like and dark.(i suspect it is the same place on the marathons single MAC as there is no bottom part like the HAlcyons kk cheers,....... [[User:J!MMY8806|J!MMY8806]] 22:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
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::Thing of it. putting a Super MAC on one huge ship may seem like a good idea, in theory. but what's the Covenant's first target going to be? they'd blow it out of space before it could even charge the MAC! which i would imagine would take a while! Frigates are smaller, faster, and cheaper to make, which is why they're still used at all. | ::Thing of it. putting a Super MAC on one huge ship may seem like a good idea, in theory. but what's the Covenant's first target going to be? they'd blow it out of space before it could even charge the MAC! which i would imagine would take a while! Frigates are smaller, faster, and cheaper to make, which is why they're still used at all. | ||
:::I agree. Also, it would take years (and dont forget the money) to make just 1 of them as a ship. This would be due to the testing of a Slipspace drive powerfull to push an item, atleast over a mile in diamatre. If my calculations are correct, any slipspace engine able to push a super MAC to FTL, would instantly, or almst instantly be blown into subatomic particles. -- | :::I agree. Also, it would take years (and dont forget the money) to make just 1 of them as a ship. This would be due to the testing of a Slipspace drive powerfull to push an item, atleast over a mile in diamatre. If my calculations are correct, any slipspace engine able to push a super MAC to FTL, would instantly, or almst instantly be blown into subatomic particles. -- - Forerunner 21:45 19/01/07 | ||
i have an idea why dont the humans get a super mac platform add alot of battleplate, archer missles, a couple of nukes,a reactor,and engines and call it a capital ship? think about it it could destroy any covenant ship while still being able to dodge the plasma torpedos, pulse lasers, and energy projectors the covenant ship could throw at it. After all marathon class cruisers are about the same length as a super MAC platform. | i have an idea why dont the humans get a super mac platform add alot of battleplate, archer missles, a couple of nukes,a reactor,and engines and call it a capital ship? think about it it could destroy any covenant ship while still being able to dodge the plasma torpedos, pulse lasers, and energy projectors the covenant ship could throw at it. After all marathon class cruisers are about the same length as a super MAC platform. | ||
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==AIMING !!!!== | ==AIMING !!!!== | ||
How the hell would you aim a MAC? you must have to turn the whole starship because the round travels the lengh of it, like an Bull-pub assault rifle --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] | How the hell would you aim a MAC? you must have to turn the whole starship because the round travels the lengh of it, like an Bull-pub assault rifle --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] File:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Black">Chat</span></b>]] or [[Special:Contributions/Climax_Viod|<b><span style="color: Silver">My Contributions </span></b>]]</sup> | ||
I was also wondering this, maybe it has small thursters kinda like the shuttles or the ISS use to keep in the proper orbit? I remember in Fall of Reach a part where the orbitals re-oriented themselves and blasted covie dropships heading for one of Reaches poles but it didnt say how they maneuvered. Oh and btw its bull-pup not bull-pub;) | I was also wondering this, maybe it has small thursters kinda like the shuttles or the ISS use to keep in the proper orbit? I remember in Fall of Reach a part where the orbitals re-oriented themselves and blasted covie dropships heading for one of Reaches poles but it didnt say how they maneuvered. Oh and btw its bull-pup not bull-pub;) | ||
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I was thinking that a few weeks back, perhaps there are differnt types e.g. armour piercing? --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] | I was thinking that a few weeks back, perhaps there are differnt types e.g. armour piercing? --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] File:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Black">Chat</span></b>]] or [[Special:Contributions/Climax_Viod|<b><span style="color: Silver">My Contributions </span></b>]]</sup> | ||
Depleted uranium is ~19,000 kg per cubic meter. That means one cubic meter of depleted uranium could supply over six MAC shells. Forgive me, but I believe the proper argument is the shells were made too big, not too small. [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 06:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC) | Depleted uranium is ~19,000 kg per cubic meter. That means one cubic meter of depleted uranium could supply over six MAC shells. Forgive me, but I believe the proper argument is the shells were made too big, not too small. [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 06:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
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::To Ashfire: Your first statement is correct. Your assertion about there being fire in space is also somewhat correct. In certain conditions, an explosion could be seen. This could happen if a round penetrates the hull and causes the ship to vent atmosphere. The escaping gases would linger long enough for a very brief explosion to be seen before dispersing throughout the local space. I'mm not sure about plasma in a MAC round's wake...could be plausible if the fields and air friction combine to superheat and ionize the surrounding air to extreme temperatures. You bring up a good point about vacuums: on Cairo Station when you exit to battle the Elites in jumpjets, there should be absolutely '''no''' sound, as the vacuum gives nothing for sound to oscillate off of. | ::To Ashfire: Your first statement is correct. Your assertion about there being fire in space is also somewhat correct. In certain conditions, an explosion could be seen. This could happen if a round penetrates the hull and causes the ship to vent atmosphere. The escaping gases would linger long enough for a very brief explosion to be seen before dispersing throughout the local space. I'mm not sure about plasma in a MAC round's wake...could be plausible if the fields and air friction combine to superheat and ionize the surrounding air to extreme temperatures. You bring up a good point about vacuums: on Cairo Station when you exit to battle the Elites in jumpjets, there should be absolutely '''no''' sound, as the vacuum gives nothing for sound to oscillate off of. | ||
::To the others contributing in this section: the MAC does not use propellant to accelerate the projectile; it uses magnetic fields and coils. See the little video clip at the top of the MAC article. That's the principle at work here. As for energy dissipation, some of it can be dispersed through vents in the gun's path, much the same as gases are dispersed in modern day weapons. However, some energy will inevitably come out of the barrel, and this could produce a flash depending on the chemical structure of what exactly is exiting the barrel. If it's just pure energy (like electricity for example), then it will more than likely remain invisible to the naked eye. A Gauss has a flash because it operates in an atmosphere, thus the chemicals and effects at work in coil/railguns are visible. In space, the 'rippling' effect generated by a Gauss cannon may be be visible, but may not, depending on what exactly generates it. My guess is that the heat and energy generated by firing creates this appearance. As such, it would be visible in space, but the flash more than likely would not. | ::To the others contributing in this section: the MAC does not use propellant to accelerate the projectile; it uses magnetic fields and coils. See the little video clip at the top of the MAC article. That's the principle at work here. As for energy dissipation, some of it can be dispersed through vents in the gun's path, much the same as gases are dispersed in modern day weapons. However, some energy will inevitably come out of the barrel, and this could produce a flash depending on the chemical structure of what exactly is exiting the barrel. If it's just pure energy (like electricity for example), then it will more than likely remain invisible to the naked eye. A Gauss has a flash because it operates in an atmosphere, thus the chemicals and effects at work in coil/railguns are visible. In space, the 'rippling' effect generated by a Gauss cannon may be be visible, but may not, depending on what exactly generates it. My guess is that the heat and energy generated by firing creates this appearance. As such, it would be visible in space, but the flash more than likely would not. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:darkgray; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22<span style="background-color:darkgray; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:darkgray; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:darkgray; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag<span style="background-color:darkgray; color:gold; -moz-border-radiusbottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 17:24, January 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Power == | == Power == | ||
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Has anyone else noticed the Large Hadron Collider (L.H.C.) uses the same technology as a MAC cannon? [[User talk:Dreaddraco2|Dreaddraco2]] | Has anyone else noticed the Large Hadron Collider (L.H.C.) uses the same technology as a MAC cannon? [[User talk:Dreaddraco2|Dreaddraco2]] | ||
:Actually, it doesn't. The MAC is a simple railgun, using magnetic strips to accelerate a metal projectile. The LHC is a particle accelerator. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[ | :Actually, it doesn't. The MAC is a simple railgun, using magnetic strips to accelerate a metal projectile. The LHC is a particle accelerator. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 01:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
The particles are Magnetically Accelerated, if you turned the L.H.C. into a cannon, it would techniqually be a magnetic acceleration cannon. [[User talk:Dreaddraco2|Dreaddraco2]] | The particles are Magnetically Accelerated, if you turned the L.H.C. into a cannon, it would techniqually be a magnetic acceleration cannon. [[User talk:Dreaddraco2|Dreaddraco2]] | ||
:As per Specops. Also, the MAC can only go in a straight line, and cannot fire individual particles. The LHC is curved, and does not have an opening at the begining or end, but keeps going round. It also cannot fire anything larger than several particles. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">General</font>]] | :As per Specops. Also, the MAC can only go in a straight line, and cannot fire individual particles. The LHC is curved, and does not have an opening at the begining or end, but keeps going round. It also cannot fire anything larger than several particles. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">General</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">ONI</font>]] [[halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">recon</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">111</font>]] - </b> File:General.svg|30px]]</span> 15:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Ship-mounted MAC recharge time == | == Ship-mounted MAC recharge time == | ||
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[[User talk:ProphetofMercy|ProphetofMercy]] 03:18, November 23, 2009 (UTC) | [[User talk:ProphetofMercy|ProphetofMercy]] 03:18, November 23, 2009 (UTC) | ||