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OK, I've started qeuestioning myself about the tag. I think 1, I hear 1. I think 5, I hear 5. I'm going to clean up the words, make them louder and show it to some people tomorrow. See what they think it is.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 17:50, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
OK, I've started qeuestioning myself about the tag. I think 1, I hear 1. I think 5, I hear 5. I'm going to clean up the words, make them louder and show it to some people tomorrow. See what they think it is.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 17:50, 19 October 2012 (EDT)


I heard 5 playing it through turtle beaches over my Xbox.  The red haired woman also fits Linda's description.   
:I heard 5 playing it through turtle beaches over my Xbox.  The red haired woman also fits Linda's description.  [[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 21:02, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 21:02, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
::It is definitely '''0-1-8'''. I used DivX subtitles to know for sure. '''Killjax 22:08, 19 October 2012 (EDT)'''
 
:::If I had to guess I'd say that it does indeed say "018" but they did intend to refer to Linda -she matches her description-, they just fudged on the tag.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 22:47, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
:The tag may be wrong, but with the right audio setup the moderator clearly calls for "Zero-Five-Eight". It's her. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 23:13, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
 
::Subtitles are only as good as the person transcribing them. If the transcription doesn't come from 343i, then the person was simply interpreting the audio, as opposed to the script. I listened to the HD version & as far as I'm concerned, the voiceover does say "zero-five-eight". - [[User talk:DJenser|DJenser]] 10:09, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
 
==Greatest Strength==
"Master Chief's mind is violated by a powerful new enemy, who in searching for Chief's weaknesses, finds the source of his strength". Did I miss what the source of his strength is? [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 13:19, 22 October 2012 (EDT)
 
:The source of his strength is overcoming his background. It shaped him, made him the supersoldier he is, but he's not "broken". He's able to draw on it without it being painful for him. This, at least, is my reading of the trailer. Others are welcome to their own interpretations. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:41, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
::In much the same way that an actual member of the [[wikipedia:Spartiate|Spartiate]] class was shaped, from the age of 6 or 7 through adulthood, into a warrior unrivalled in his time by undergoing the [[wikipedia:agoge|agoge]], John 117 was made into a supersoldier, starting from the age of 6, through the SPARTAN II program. As Mr. Morhek has pointed out, rather than being shattered by this process, he was tempered by it into a warrior of unparalleled courage, ability and determination. Director David Fincher captured the essence of this (as best he could, given the helmet) in the final scene, where the Chief slowly (and perhaps defiantly) looks up at the Didact after having his memories ransacked, as if to say "Is that all you got?". - [[User talk:DJenser|DJenser]] 11:16, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
 
== Unnamed Spartan Tag ==
 
The Spartan standing in from of John is Spartan-073, not 013. Look very close, it's clearly a 7, not a 1. {{Unsigned|Toa Freak}}
 
Its the number 3, not 7. Those two numbers are clearly different. Notice the '7's' "stem" is not slanted. Even for military font. '''-{{User|Killjax}}'''
 
You mean the number 1? It's a 7. There is a clear slant, but it's hard to see because it's at an angle. I've also never seeing a 1 with such a lot top "extrusion", if that makes sense. --[[User talk:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] 20:48, 26 October 2012 (EDT)
 
==So==
Can we mark this as partially non-canon now since this doesn't happen in the game? See [[Second Battle of New Mombasa]] for reference.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 17:19, 8 November 2012 (EST)
 
:The only parts that we can really take as canon are the interview with Halsey. Other than that, I interpreted the other events as taking place in her mind, being representative. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:27, 8 November 2012 (EST)
 
::Sure your on the right page buddy? lol but yes you are correct on your statement.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:24, 11 November 2012 (EST)
 
== I don't get it. ==
 
John-117 is not captured by the Didact in the game, so why does it show that he was? [[Special:Contributions/70.13.251.44|70.13.251.44]] 19:54, 10 May 2013 (EDT)
 
Non canon ad. Always use the DMR. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 21:06, 10 May 2013 (EDT)
:Indeed, but does this mean we should start adding (Non-canon appearance) for pages that list this for an appearance similar to [[Odd One Out]]?[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 12:32, 19 May 2013 (EDT)

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Spartan Tag[edit]

OK, I've started qeuestioning myself about the tag. I think 1, I hear 1. I think 5, I hear 5. I'm going to clean up the words, make them louder and show it to some people tomorrow. See what they think it is.Fairfieldfencer FFF 17:50, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

I heard 5 playing it through turtle beaches over my Xbox. The red haired woman also fits Linda's description. Spartan 501 21:02, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
It is definitely 0-1-8. I used DivX subtitles to know for sure. Killjax 22:08, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
If I had to guess I'd say that it does indeed say "018" but they did intend to refer to Linda -she matches her description-, they just fudged on the tag.--Emblem 1.jpg Rusty - 112 22:47, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
The tag may be wrong, but with the right audio setup the moderator clearly calls for "Zero-Five-Eight". It's her. --Courage never dies. 23:13, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
Subtitles are only as good as the person transcribing them. If the transcription doesn't come from 343i, then the person was simply interpreting the audio, as opposed to the script. I listened to the HD version & as far as I'm concerned, the voiceover does say "zero-five-eight". - DJenser 10:09, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

Greatest Strength[edit]

"Master Chief's mind is violated by a powerful new enemy, who in searching for Chief's weaknesses, finds the source of his strength". Did I miss what the source of his strength is? Alex T Snow 13:19, 22 October 2012 (EDT)

The source of his strength is overcoming his background. It shaped him, made him the supersoldier he is, but he's not "broken". He's able to draw on it without it being painful for him. This, at least, is my reading of the trailer. Others are welcome to their own interpretations. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 07:41, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
In much the same way that an actual member of the Spartiate class was shaped, from the age of 6 or 7 through adulthood, into a warrior unrivalled in his time by undergoing the agoge, John 117 was made into a supersoldier, starting from the age of 6, through the SPARTAN II program. As Mr. Morhek has pointed out, rather than being shattered by this process, he was tempered by it into a warrior of unparalleled courage, ability and determination. Director David Fincher captured the essence of this (as best he could, given the helmet) in the final scene, where the Chief slowly (and perhaps defiantly) looks up at the Didact after having his memories ransacked, as if to say "Is that all you got?". - DJenser 11:16, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

Unnamed Spartan Tag[edit]

The Spartan standing in from of John is Spartan-073, not 013. Look very close, it's clearly a 7, not a 1. —This unsigned comment was made by Toa Freak (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Its the number 3, not 7. Those two numbers are clearly different. Notice the '7's' "stem" is not slanted. Even for military font. -Killjax (talk | contribs)

You mean the number 1? It's a 7. There is a clear slant, but it's hard to see because it's at an angle. I've also never seeing a 1 with such a lot top "extrusion", if that makes sense. --Toa Freak 20:48, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

So[edit]

Can we mark this as partially non-canon now since this doesn't happen in the game? See Second Battle of New Mombasa for reference.Sith-venator Wavingstrider Fett helmet.jpg (Commlink) 17:19, 8 November 2012 (EST)

The only parts that we can really take as canon are the interview with Halsey. Other than that, I interpreted the other events as taking place in her mind, being representative. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 21:27, 8 November 2012 (EST)
Sure your on the right page buddy? lol but yes you are correct on your statement.Sith-venator Wavingstrider Fett helmet.jpg (Commlink) 21:24, 11 November 2012 (EST)

I don't get it.[edit]

John-117 is not captured by the Didact in the game, so why does it show that he was? 70.13.251.44 19:54, 10 May 2013 (EDT)

Non canon ad. Always use the DMR. This is craZboy557, signing off. 21:06, 10 May 2013 (EDT)

Indeed, but does this mean we should start adding (Non-canon appearance) for pages that list this for an appearance similar to Odd One Out?Sith-venator Wavingstrider Fett helmet.jpg (Commlink) 12:32, 19 May 2013 (EDT)