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== Theoretical fact== | |||
Seeing as the first non-teaser Halo 4 trailer has been released recently, and said trailer shows what is clearly the Mk VII Mjolnir being worn by Spartan VI's, i think we should add this new information to this article. If I'm wrong, don't flame me, please. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 10:15, 6 March 2012 (EST) | Seeing as the first non-teaser Halo 4 trailer has been released recently, and said trailer shows what is clearly the Mk VII Mjolnir being worn by Spartan VI's, i think we should add this new information to this article. If I'm wrong, don't flame me, please. [[User talk:Infernal-Blaze|Infernal-Blaze]] 10:15, 6 March 2012 (EST) | ||
:That is most likely the case, but we still don't know for a fact if it's MJOLNIR the S-IVs are wearing. What if it turns out that they use a different armor series altogether, like the Spartan-IIIs did? Better wait until there's a confirmation. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:29, 6 March 2012 (EST) | :That is most likely the case, but we still don't know for a fact if it's MJOLNIR the S-IVs are wearing. What if it turns out that they use a different armor series altogether, like the Spartan-IIIs did? Better wait until there's a confirmation. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:29, 6 March 2012 (EST) | ||
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Also, I know that when you tag multiple things with the same reference, it will all link to one reference; well, how would I do this with multiple notes? '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 08:14, 12 March 2012 (EDT)! | Also, I know that when you tag multiple things with the same reference, it will all link to one reference; well, how would I do this with multiple notes? '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 08:14, 12 March 2012 (EDT)! | ||
:I don't think it's possible. I tried it, and the notes kept showing up under the sources section.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 10:17 12 March 2012 (EST) | :I don't think it's possible. I tried it, and the notes kept showing up under the sources section.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 10:17 12 March 2012 (EST) | ||
::[http://www.halopedian.com/index.php?title=MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mark_VII&diff=975462&oldid=972718 Crisis averted.] —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[ | ::[http://www.halopedian.com/index.php?title=MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mark_VII&diff=975462&oldid=972718 Crisis averted.] —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 00:50, 5 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Regarding "active AI transfer", we see the Chief transferring Cortana into the Covenant bomb at the beginning of Halo 2 through his gauntlet, rather than manually removing the chip from his neural interface. We know from Halsey's journal that shields weren't originally intended for the Mark V, but were moved up to the earlier suit. Perhaps active AI transferral was a feature moved up from the Mark VII to the VI? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[ | :Regarding "active AI transfer", we see the Chief transferring Cortana into the Covenant bomb at the beginning of Halo 2 through his gauntlet, rather than manually removing the chip from his neural interface. We know from Halsey's journal that shields weren't originally intended for the Mark V, but were moved up to the earlier suit. Perhaps active AI transferral was a feature moved up from the Mark VII to the VI? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:14, 6 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
== Too soon? == | == Too soon? == | ||
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Why does it take about 24 years for a new armor system to come out (of course variants during those years came out) then suddenly 4 new systems (1 just a variant) comes out all within a year or so.? --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 19:59, 6 April 2012 (EDT) | Why does it take about 24 years for a new armor system to come out (of course variants during those years came out) then suddenly 4 new systems (1 just a variant) comes out all within a year or so.? --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 19:59, 6 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Part of the reason is because there was never intended to be a Mark system. Halsey intended the MJOLNIR armor to be one long armor line with upgrades being added as needed. However, the development of the shield system signaled the creation of suit that needed all the previous structure revamped [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark IV(G)|as opposed to earlier failed experiments with shielded Mark IVs]]. ONI thus retroactively included the earlier MJOLRNIR prototype exoskeletons as part of the MJOLNIR line, labeling them Mark I, II, and III. Thus it made it look like there was a 24 year period with one iteration when they were really all progressive variants more akin to "1.1, 1.2, 1.35, etc." [[User:Tuckerscreator|And some]] [[User:Ladylaconia|of us]] have suspected the reason for the speeding up of updates armors is because previously there was less of an opportunity to test them. It's hard to run armor tests when unaugmented humans can't wear MJOLNIR and all the Spartans constantly out in the field, unless you [[Maria-062|suddenly got somebody]] [[Armor Testing|with some newly gained free time on their hands...]] [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 20: | :Part of the reason is because there was never intended to be a Mark system. Halsey intended the MJOLNIR armor to be one long armor line with upgrades being added as needed. However, the development of the shield system signaled the creation of suit that needed all the previous structure revamped [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Mark IV(G)|as opposed to earlier failed experiments with shielded Mark IVs]]. ONI thus retroactively included the earlier MJOLRNIR prototype exoskeletons as part of the MJOLNIR line, labeling them Mark I, II, and III. Thus it made it look like there was a 24 year period with one iteration when they were really all progressive variants more akin to "1.1, 1.2, 1.35, etc." [[User:Tuckerscreator|And some]] [[User:Ladylaconia|of us]] have suspected the reason for the speeding up of updates armors is because previously there was less of an opportunity to test them. It's hard to run armor tests when unaugmented humans can't wear MJOLNIR and all the Spartans constantly out in the field, unless you [[Maria-062|suddenly got somebody]] [[Armor Testing|with some newly gained free time on their hands...]] [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 20:14, 6 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
::I am vindicated. According to Game Informer, the new armour is just his original Mark VI with a radical reconstruction by Cortana during their time drifting. Exactly as I predicted. 343i, are you stalking me? | |||
::"::Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen."-- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:18, 7 April 2012 (EDT) | |||
:::I would say they have to be using Covenant and Forerunner Technololy, just like they did with the Infity. So basically, they are updating so quicly because they are stealing technology. [[User talk:Siul S-249|Siul S-249]] 19:57, 17 April 2012 (EDT) | |||
I was hoping that the Chief would wake up from cryo wearing regular Mark VI, then gets rescued by the Infinity and gets Mark VII. It would make a lot more sense canonically. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 15:38, 1 May 2012 (EDT) | |||
==Cylon Centurion Inspiration?== | |||
I don't know if this was ever brought up before, but I think it was at some point earlier, I just can't remember where. Anyway, the helmet almost looks like a Cylon Centurion's glowing red "eye". Could this be a piece of possible trivia, like a small nod to ''Battlestar Galactica''? Also, it seems to be the same case with the [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Warrior]] variant too. Does anybody think the same? Shouldn't this piece of trivia also be added to both articles? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 21:15, 28 April 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
:Oh, and by the way, has anyone noticed that the knee guards are unusually large? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmit</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 23:04, 15 June 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||