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:::Also, ''Infinity'' probably wasn't willing to stick around within spitting distance of the absurdly powerful Forerunner flagship; Lasky took enough of a risk when getting that close and had to bail out before the Didact actually started paying attention to him. It's a mystery why ''Infinity'' and the rest of Battlegroup Dakota (or for that matter, the Chief's Broadsword) weren't blown out of the sky in a microsecond or so, but maybe the Didact, in his insane, villainous impracticality didn't even consider them threats and would've dealt with them last - after he had casually composed all of Earth with several hours of concentrated fire from the UNSC fleet having absolutely no effect. There's also a theory around that the Librarian severely downgraded the weaponry of the ''Mantle's Approach'' to give humanity any semblance of a fighting chance if her plan with the Didact didn't work out. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:54, 16 October 2013 (EDT)
:::Also, ''Infinity'' probably wasn't willing to stick around within spitting distance of the absurdly powerful Forerunner flagship; Lasky took enough of a risk when getting that close and had to bail out before the Didact actually started paying attention to him. It's a mystery why ''Infinity'' and the rest of Battlegroup Dakota (or for that matter, the Chief's Broadsword) weren't blown out of the sky in a microsecond or so, but maybe the Didact, in his insane, villainous impracticality didn't even consider them threats and would've dealt with them last - after he had casually composed all of Earth with several hours of concentrated fire from the UNSC fleet having absolutely no effect. There's also a theory around that the Librarian severely downgraded the weaponry of the ''Mantle's Approach'' to give humanity any semblance of a fighting chance if her plan with the Didact didn't work out. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:54, 16 October 2013 (EDT)


::::Let's not forget the placement of the nuke that destroyed it - it was right in the heart of the ship, right near a slipspace generator, carried there by Broadsword and by foot. I doubt a ship-launched nuke could have penetrated that deeply, or that strategically vital a place. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 15:32, 16 October 2013 (EDT)
::::Let's not forget the placement of the nuke that destroyed it - it was right in the heart of the ship, right near a slipspace generator, carried there by Broadsword and by foot. I doubt a ship-launched nuke could have penetrated that deeply, or that strategically vital a place. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 15:32, 16 October 2013 (EDT)


:::It didn't seem that deep. In fact, it looks like the Composer was right near the front of the ship, in order to gain the closest firing range. The "roof" was even open. Next to a slipspace generator is a true point, though, but both it and the Composer were still close to the surface. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:05, 16 October 2013 (EDT)
:::It didn't seem that deep. In fact, it looks like the Composer was right near the front of the ship, in order to gain the closest firing range. The "roof" was even open. Next to a slipspace generator is a true point, though, but both it and the Composer were still close to the surface. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:05, 16 October 2013 (EDT)
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::Honestly speaking, I don't see the similarity at all. Granted, I have not played Mass Effect at all (or even read any of the novels) though I did spend some time in the Mass Effect wiki (though not for its articles). Regardless, I think we decided some time ago to avoid putting in trivia on similarities with other franchise unless they are similar in appearance. Here, in my own opinion, they are not. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:18, 20 January 2014 (EST)
::Honestly speaking, I don't see the similarity at all. Granted, I have not played Mass Effect at all (or even read any of the novels) though I did spend some time in the Mass Effect wiki (though not for its articles). Regardless, I think we decided some time ago to avoid putting in trivia on similarities with other franchise unless they are similar in appearance. Here, in my own opinion, they are not. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:18, 20 January 2014 (EST)
:I don't know (and I don't really care) what the fuss is all about, but if there must be a similarity trivia thingamajig, I would say it doesn't look like a metapod at all. More like the Reaper Sovereign of Mass Effect. But perhaps Subtank is right, similarities trivia may not really be necessary. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 11:37, 20 January 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330
Normally I wouldn't have put trivia about similar appearances if it were based solely on "these things look kinda the same." The reason why I made an exception here because it seems like not merely an attempt to reference ''Mass Effect'', but rather to reference the voice actor's previous role. It's the difference between, say, having a random character hold a gun that looks kinda like Hellboy's and having Lord Hood be the one holding that gun. Connecting the potential reference with the actor makes it more intentional. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:59, 20 January 2014 (EST)
:That's also a good point. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:08, 20 January 2014 (EST)
Or just by chance, look at all the roles the voice actor has had. The ship is meant to inspire fear and Keith Szarabajka has the voice to do reflect the evil ship captain. Just because there are similarities in two franchise does not mean they are a nod. In both Halo and Mass Effect there have been extincting cycles which does not mean they are connected. [[Special:Contributions/24.86.35.118|24.86.35.118]] 19:29, 9 October 2014 (EDT)
== Weapons systems ==
We have the Z-8250 light artillery labeled as the light-mass fusillade cannons in the weaponry section. When they are more likely the 5th level weapons described in the H4EVG. I imagine the heavy anti-ship weapons and the light artillery are part of the same anti-ship system. Whereas fusillade cannons imply something a lot larger than piddly aa guns. Especially since the weapons ranked below them are the frigate vaporizing particle cannons... Thoughts? [[User:ProphetofTruth|ProphetofTruth]] ([[User talk:ProphetofTruth|talk]]) 15:34, 4 February 2014 (EST)