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Falcon in Halo 4?

I don't believe it is a good idea to jump to conclusions so quickly that the Falcon is in Halo 4. Simple concept art does not always portray accurate information. For example, this concept art shows a banshee flying around:

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As you can tell, this is not the same banshee as seen in any of the released game play videos of Halo 4. The same goes for the Falcon. We have not seen any game play of it, therefore, it cannot be confirmed, and should not be on Halo 4's vehicle list until confirmed.

Didn't they release an interactive guide online that has all the vehicles listed? Just checked with it and see if it is there or not. TLLorax 13:46, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Falcons can be seen clearly in the background of this image. --Courage never dies. 13:55, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Perhaps they appear only as cardboard cutouts.-- Forerunner 14:14, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

The Falcon is definitely not in the interactive game guide, But that might simply be because the player doesn't fly them. They might simply be in the background. Weeping Angel 20:24, 4 November 2012 (EST)

I might as well add, the UH-144 Falcon, or any Falcon aircraft thereof, is not at all mentioned anywhere in the Halo 4 Prima Official Game Guide. No mention of it anywhere. Just zip, zero, nada. I think we can all safely assume with complete confidence that the Falcon does not make a return. A pity, honestly, that it didn't return. Not even the AV-14 Hornet either! I liked using both of those aircraft. Banshees are nice, but I like Falcons and Hornets better. Oh well. --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 17:12, 10 November 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

After-credits speech by Didact

It mentions in this article that the speech that the Didact gives happens following the events of Halo 4, and assumes it is him vowing further action on humanity. After hearing it a couple of times, I am now convinced that this speech actually is from the Didact speaking to the ecumene counsel regarding is punishments to prehistoric humans in the aftermath of the Forerunner-Human war more than 100,000 years ago. Evidence includes him citing victory (against prehistoric humans, because surely what happened at the end of Halo 4 was not a victory). He also uses plural pronouns when referencing Forerunners, and furthermore uses "we" and "our" as if he is talking to other Forerunners, which would be unlikely in 2557. Overall, when taking it from that context, it makes much more sense. The article should be changed to reflect this, and should not make the assumption of saying that the Didact apparently survived based on the fact that he gives this speech. - Extron

It depends. The parts about "I stand before you" does sound like a council or trial, but the part of "We squander eons in the darkness, while they seize our triumphs for their own" sounds like after the Halos' firing. It's hard to be sure. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 03:22, 11 November 2012 (EST)

Though I do admit that line is a bit harder to understand, I would still posit that the majority of the lines make much more sense under the context of the Didact before the events of Halo 4. There are many more lines that don't make sense if he was speaking after the events of Halo 4 than lines that don't make sense if he was speaking to the ecumene council after the Human-Forerunner war. For example, in 2557, who would be accusing him of sin? - Extron

I agree. I was going to make a similar post before seeing yours. I also think that the speech took place some time before the Didact was imprisoned. Since it's not 100% clear though, I think the article should be changed so that it does not make an implication one way or the other.--olanmills 03:51, 26 November 2012 (EST)

it does seem very likely but however if you do an analysis of what the didact says during the cutscene on the level forerunner he not only talks to the chief, he also talks to the librarian, well parts of his little speech is directed to her. So what the didact says during the last scene of halo 4 may be before or after the events, we do not know but we can only speculate, we may find out in later forms of media or will have to wait till halo 5 S225 01:03 27th November 2012 (PST)

The Halo 4 Official Game Guide

Shouldn't we now have a page for the Halo 4 Prima Official Game Guide, since it has already come out in stores? I got my copy at Wal-Mart for 10x4, a limited collector's edition. I did see some regular Halo 4 Prima Official Game Guides for 25. But I assume you all must already know this. So should we now include a new article for the game guide, too? Seeing as I own a copy, I should be the one to write the article, but I'm honestly not sure I'd do a very good job of it. If anyone else also owns it besides myself could write it, then all the better, I suppose. Still, if no one doesn't, or if they do, but don't want to do it, I suppose I'll have to man up and do it myself. Just be forewarned: as I've said, I might not do a very good job. --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 20:36, 11 November 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

Cairo Station

I just added Cairo Station to the Locations list, but i dont have a source. It is mentioned by one of the computers aboard the Infinity during Shutdown. Just go and press "x" on them, i think its the farthest one that will first mention something about information and departure, later something about War Games, and finally will mention Cairo Station. BTW, i am not sure if that even counts as an appearace, but deleted in case is not supposed to be there. Siul S-249 20:13, 16 November 2012 (EST)

The Ships that Pop Up during Midnight

I'm reffering to the ones that were engaging the Didact's ship during the final part of the Broadsword section. Does anyone know what they are? Are they Frigates, Destroyers, Something Else entirely? Missing Mandible 20:49, 25 November 2012 (EST)

I noticed a few ships that looked like something entirely new, but they most likely were Charon-class frigates (H4 version). Also noticed them being destroyed. However it was only at a glance being that I was busy twisting and turning as I was trying to destroy the particle cannons & dodge gunfire from the point defense guns. Sucks that theater mode doesn't work for campaign anymore. Damn you 343i! Now we have to use a VHS, camcorder, or phone cam to record our campagin vids!--Killamint [Comm|Files] 13:30, 29 November 2012 (EST)

I heard they were working on putting theater in Campaign, but until they do, I share your frustration.File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 13:43, 29 November 2012 (EST)

For anyone unaware of what we're talking about, there were at least four types of spacecraft in Midnight. The Broadswords and modified Charons are the most obvious, the more "flat" looking ships (possibly destroyers), and ships just slightly larger than fighters buzzing around the surrounding battles (prowlers/corvettes?). Grizzlei ♥ ツ

The communications tell me at least one Super MAC station was involved. Which one or any others is unclear. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 14:18, 29 November 2012 (EST)

I derped around in Midnight a bit. The ship that flies parallel to the "sphincter" exit is NOT a Charon-class. Wrong bow. The Charon-class still has a forked bow; this had a flat-ish bow and antennae on the ventral portion of the bow. It also lacked the port and starboard sidepanels of the Charon-class. --WTRiker 02:18, 22 December 2012 (EST)

The fourth one below is the class I was talking about. --WTRiker 12:47, 23 December 2012 (EST)

Here's a few pics of the ships that I tried to capture. Unfortunately since we don't have theater mode for campaign I couldn't get anything clear enough to post on the article itself, but I'll be working on getting something soon, just have to either hook up the good old VCR or use my camera's mini tripod. The first one is flat looking and something new, the next two look like Charon-class, while the third looks like a cross between the Infinity and the Halcyon (spelling) class (also they were firing blue-colored bolts at the Didact's ship):

File:Dakota 1.jpg,File:Dakota 2.jpg,File:Dakota 3.jpg,File:Dakota 4.jpg --Killamint [Comm|Files] 13:00, 22 December 2012 (EST)

First pic is a new class. Second one is potentially Charon. Looks about right, but the bow doesn't appear to be forked. None in the third are Charon (i.e. a new class). Charon has two engines and is bulkier, those have only one and are sticks. (Stalwart revamp?), fourth is another new class. --WTRiker 12:52, 23 December 2012 (EST)

The 2nd and 3rd pics are the same ships, just taken from a different angle. I believe they lack bulk and two engines because it may have been too much texture size/memory trying to have these multiple 1600+ ft long ships flying around at close range, so they reduced size and bulk to relieve memory. So it looks like a Charon but lacks the mass & engine count. But that's just a quick guess from a gameplay standpoint.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 15:44, 23 December 2012 (EST)

The second and third could possibly be new ships entirely cause once you first go into infinity multiplayer the Charon class ships look like well what they look like, if they were these new ones from the level midnight they would have been rendered that way S225 12:30am 25th December 2012 (GMT)

Replayed Midnight. Spent a good 10-15 flying around looking at the ships. The "antenna" ship appears to have two primary engines and four secondaries, arranged in pairs on either side of the mains, at an angle relative to the plane of the dorsal hull.

The "sticks" have only the one engine. --WTRiker (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2012 (EST)

Co-op Play in Campaign and in Spartan Ops

While I can sorta guess who I might play as in Spartan Ops (as one of the many Spartan-IVs), I don't know who I would be playing as during cooperative campaign. I assume I'm either another Master Chief or perhaps maybe, however unlikely, a Spartan-IV. Or is there even a cooperative campaign? I hope so, at least that won't have changed since the other Halo games. So, assuming there is a cooperative campaign, who is the second, third, and fourth players, if any? --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 15:23, 2 December 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

Yeah, there is co-op Campaign. It's the same as Halo: CE and Halo 2, where you play as a 'clone' of the Chief when canonically it's just the Chief fighting.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 15:29, 2 December 2012 (EST)