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== Page title capitalization guidelines ==

I thought about making a blog about this, but then again, it's small enough a matter to be discussed here. {{Username1|Dragonclaws}} already addressed this [[Blog:Please, Stop Being Human|in a blog]], as well as some comments but barely anyone has taken any note of it.

So my question is, why is it common practice that we capitalize every word in page titles? For a recent example, [[Unnamed Sabre Launch Facility]] and [[Space Station|countless]] [[Orbital Bombardment|more]]. "Launch", or "facility", aren't proper nouns and shouldn't be capitalized. I've done it myself in the past, yes, but just because it's common practice here. Wikipedia doesn't do it, and for a reason. It makes titles look out of place and complicates linking. If one wants to make a link for such a page, and they don't want to make the text to look awkward, it needs a redirect or a piped link.

So it's like we have this capitalization rule as a relic from the old times, but no one has bothered to do anything about it. I say we change it so that only proper nouns are capitalized, and with normal ones, lowercase letters will be used. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:14, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

:Yeah, I started writing a blog with a formal proposal, but this is as good a place as any to discuss it. As is expected, I'm for the grammatical capitalization. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:20, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

::Yes, this has been on my mind for a while now. Halopedia has ''serious'' capitalization problems, and we really need to introduce a new policy regarding it. I've seen proper use of capitalization on another wiki I am common on, and things look much tidier and efficient. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 14:11, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

:::See Dragonclaws' [[Forum:Proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically|proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically]].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 14:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

== Problems with Wiki ==

Most of the Wiki's basic features are down for me. Whenever I try to upload or delete an image, move or delete a page, rollback an edit or block someone, I get the following message: ''"The database is currently locked. Our main datacenter is down, you are accessing our backup datacenter. We are working to fix the problem"''. In addition, features like comments or avatars are down as well. It's been doing this for about three days already so it seems to take a bit long to be routine maintenance. Needless to say, it is extremely frustrating. Is this happening for anyone else or is it region-specific or just me? Because I've seen some others upload and delete images or pages with no problem, and if the database is really locked, how is that possible? It doesn't do this on other wikia sites though, just Halopedia. Haven't really seen anyone else report the problem so I guess it has to be regional. Just asking if it can be fixed, or if I just have to wait patiently. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:42, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

:That happens often to me, mostly when I tried deleting an article. Simply refresh and repeat the procedure will sometime bypass this error. However, the error might not afterall be an error; Wikia could have taken down the features for temporary maintanence without notifying the administration team because it could simply be a minor bug that they wished to fix. So, just be patient is all I can say. :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 18:55, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
:I'm also having problems with pictures. it wont show the pictures for me. when i right click and click show picture it still does not work anyone else have pic problems?[[User talk:SPARTAN-III leader|SPARTAN-III leader]] 16:40, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

==Sidebar==
Ok, so what the hell is wrong with the sidebar? Where did the Halo stuff go and what the f**k is up with all those picture links? - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 22:44, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
:No idea. Blame Wikia :P BTW, it wasn't like that 10 minutes ago...--[[File:Brigadier Grade One.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;General5 7&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:50, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah I know, it suddenly appeared. At last it's back now... - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 07:40, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
:This happened to me once but it is back now. ;-) --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User profile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 15:53, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

==Usage of bracketed addendums in article titles==
I've begun to notice the unneeded usage of bracketed addendums in a sizable amount of articles lately, usually those that have a level of the same name. Examples of this include [[343 Guilty Spark (Monitor)]], [[Armory (Room)]], [[High Charity (Structure)]], [[Cairo Station (Platform)]], [[Gravemind (Form)]], [[Kizingo Boulevard (Location)]] and countless others. If several articles share the same name, the bracketed distinction should only follow the titles of those named after the primary subject. 

For example, there are two instances in the ''Halo'' series titled "343 Guilty Spark"; the monitor and the level. The level is named after the monitor, thus should be the only article using bracketed information in its title to distinguish it from the primary subject, with a small note at the top of the page to cover any confusion ("''Were you looking for ____?''"). If there is more than two instances, [[Gravemind]] for instance, the same rule should apply, but with a disambiguation page made to organize the other secondarily named pages, again with a note linking to it ("''For other uses of "Gravemind", see Gravemind (disambiguation)''"). This is what I, and indeed many other wikis, think should apply when it comes to this scenario, and I think Halopedia should implement it also. While I believe this should be incorporated into the [[Halopedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], I'd like to address it here, and see what people think. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:33, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
:I think you should have brought this up in a blog or on the forum, but whatever. Well, your points are valid; problem is, we need some sort of list in order to locate all articles about subjects named after something else and have a parenthesis indicating that, if we are to start correcting them. It's crazy to start looking for such articles all around the site. Another problem is that there are already articles like 343 Guilty Spark and Gravemind, without brackets, but they are disambiguation pages, so we need to carefully copy-paste everything on them and SOMEHOW keep the disambiguation page as well because it's needed. And as per an old proposal by Manticore, we may not create pages with the word "disambiguation" in brackets (it would also not make sense since we are trying to get rid of them). So yeah, its not that easy.- [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 20:50, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
::About the list of pages about that subject, you misunderstand, I stated that there of course should be disambiguation pages, but that the name of the page detailing the primary subject should go unchanged. And as for this proposal of Manticore's, I have never heard of it before, but think it to be quite ridiculous. We ''need'' disambiguation pages, as what I'm proposing is to retain consistency, the term "disambiguation" is inevitable to retain that, its elimination is nothing more than preference over order and consistency. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:57, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

:I couldn't agree more; I was just thinking about this a while ago. Pages with the name of the original subject (like [[Gravemind]] or [[Covenant]]) should obviously not be disambiguation pages, since the original subject is what people are looking for - or linking to - most of the time. Like you said, the primary subject article should have a link to the disambiguation page which would have the addendum (disambiguation). It's a good idea, and common practice in most wikis anyways. Also, the bracketed addendums shouldn't be capitalized like they have been before, for example, Cairo Station ('''P'''latform) or High Charity ('''S'''tructure). That makes it easier to link to them, not to mention more grammatically correct. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 21:01, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
::I didn't say I disagree; I was referring to the old proposal which I'm sure the older admins will remember of. But the idea is good. - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 21:23, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
:::{{Support}} - The sentence should be as so: ''"SUBJECT redirects here. For more uses of SUBJECT, see SUBJECT (disambiguation)"''. Oh, it was me who began making disambiguation pages which were later deleted by Manticore back in 2007/08 if you're wondering....- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

== Fanon Titles ==

I have had it with fan-titles as the '''main''' title because this is an encyclopedia not some forum in which fan-titles are allowed in (with the exceptions such as [[Final Grunt]] or [[Hugging Elite]]) and we should do something about this, so I have made a project on moving: [[Covenant Rope]], [[Brute Landmine]], [[Covenant Supercruiser]], [[Crow's Nest Bomb]], (there are more but I am too lazy to make a draft for all of them). This is one of the many problems with halopedia. --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User profile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 06:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
:Make a proper proposal or don't propose anything at all... >.< - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
::How about make a proper reply or don't reply at all... >.< --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User profile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 07:32, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::Cally, one more proper smartass comment from you and you'll get an all-expenses paid [suspension] vacation. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|June 30th, 2010}}
:::Oh, the irony.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 09:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
:What would you propose they be moved to? Is not "Covenant Rope" (or "rope") an accurate description if not an official name? If anything, I would think those Easter eggs are the least appropriate, and I could see them being moved to something like "Comical Grunt (Halo 3)" and "Elite (Easter Egg)". --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 09:57, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
::Titles like those may be more appropriate, but the current ones are easier to find and link to. Plus, there are tons of Elite-related easter eggs, for example. The use of fan-made names should not be encouraged, but in the case of easter eggs, I think it's simply more convenient unless the title is something utterly ridiculous. Besides, a title like "Hugging Elite" pretty much describes what it does. As for titles like "Covenant Rope", I think that's descriptive enough to make it clear that it's not the official name of the item and adding "Unnamed" to it won't really change it at all. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::I am saying that easter egg titles are not included but some articles are not like that and do not really fit halopedia mainly because of their fan-titles in which I have made several drafts and currently two more pages to fix, and if you want to see them look at the list:
:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/1|1.]]
:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/2|2.]]
:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/3|3.]]
:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/5|4.]]
:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/6|5.]]
:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/7|6.]]
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::::But those names aren't "fan-names" like dubbing Rtas 'Vadum "Half-Jaw" because of his jaw injury when we had no idea what his name was. Each of those is an accurate description of something whose name we don't know. I don't see why your names are necessarily better than the things we have now. How is "Brute Landmine" a fan-name and "Hugging Elite" is just fine? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::::I have only chosen a few like Brute Landmine because it has absolutely no sources or evidence to prove that is a near canon title and Covenant Supercruiser which has never been confirmed to be a cruiser. RE: Hugging Elite: We as i said easter eggs are not included becausethey are for fan speculation. --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px|link=User profile:Cally99117]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/IRC Quotes|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 18:25, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::::I might start thinking about including stuff like Hugging Elite and other easter eggs and glitches. So should I make this into a forum now? --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
::::::I think you can go ahead. I do agree with some stuff, like the "Crow's Nest Bomb" and "Legendary Planet". I do disagree with stuff like the land mine. "Brute Landmine" and "Covenant Rope" are descriptions, just as your "Unidentified Air Burst Mine" and "Unidentified Covenant Tether" are descriptions. Of course, I can offer no official sources showing that their current titles are canon, but neither can you with your descriptive titles. It is clear that the mine is of Brute-origin and that the rope is of Covenant origin, so the titles are accurate even if they are not canon. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 17:58, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::And about easter eggs and glitches; they are mostly non-canon so they might stay (as non-canon and unconfirmed titles work in a bit of a similar way). --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
:::::::[[Forum:Proposal to Replace fan-made Titles|Here]] is the new proposal. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}

==(Level)==
Okay, this has been annoying me. On Wikipedia, parentheses are used in links to disambiguate. For instance, on Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Halo|Halo]] takes you straight to the disambiguation page of all things that are called Halo, and you have to use [[Wikipedia:Halo (series)|Halo (series)]] to get to our beloved franchise. Likewise, on Halopedia, [[Halo]] is a disambiguation page, and you can choose [[Halo (Halo 3 Level)]] or [[Halo (Halo: Combat Evolved Level)]], etc. to get whatever article you want. However, the parentheses have been extended past simple disambiguation and into a rather pointless classification method. When we've got two or more things with the same name, such as Cortana, then it makes sense to have [[Cortana]] and [[Cortana (Level)]]. Because Cortana the AI is the most obvious use of "Cortana", the [[Cortana]] page is specifically our favorite AI's page, which makes sense. The problem is that "(Level)" has been adopted as something automatically put in a level's title, which is excessive and doesn't make sense. The fact that "Assault on the Control Room" is a level should be obvious from the context of the link or from the content of the page, depending on how one is arriving at the page, and placing "(Level)" in the title for no reason but classification is just superfluous. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 10:36, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

:Agreed. I have no idea how a practice like this came to be; having the (Level) addendum is pointless when the only article with that name is of the level. It stands to reason it should only be used when there's another subject with the same name. Also, now that we're adopting the new capitalization standard, shouldn't the parentheses be in lowercase most of the time?  --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:56, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

::The practise became official back in 2007/08, as with the capitalisation though I can't seem to find archives of it. I believe one of the argument for the practise was to maintain consistency, but don't take my word for it.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 11:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

== Covenant Species Weights ==

I know there isn't much room in Wikis for jokes, but here's just one to start off a long analysis. Please don't ban me. Cracked.com ran an article called 5 Things We're Making Fatter in Addition to Ourselves. And I've noticed a somewhat similar trend over the Covenant species articles with their weights. They've almost all gone up, to somewhat ridiculous levels, with the exception of Elites, who have lost about 200 lbs. and Prophets, who've stayed the same.

I don't have precise figures to quote, but from memory here is a comparison of the original species weight to the current one:

Grunts: 118 kg/260 lbs (current) vs. 110 lbs (original)

Jackals: 88 kg/195 lbs (current) vs. ~150 lbs (original)

Drones: 130 kg/280 lbs (current) vs. ~130 lbs (original)

Brutes: 680 kg/1500 lbs (current) vs. 1100 lbs (original)

Just looking at these, the Grunt and Drone figures seem ridiculous. How does a Grunt, a much shorter and smaller creature than a human, weigh in so much heavier? And the Drone would be in the obese category in human classification, yet not only is it a pretty trim-looking creature, it's a flying one.

The Jackal and Brute aren't as egregious as this, but they're still somewhat implausible figures. The Jackal is supposed to have hollow bones and it looks pretty skinny, but it's probably the most acceptable figure out of these four. Before the Elite's weight was changed from around 500 to its present of around 320 lbs, the Brute weighed 1,100. So it weighed a little more than twice as much as an Elite. Plausible. Now with the new figures, the Brute weighs 5 times as much as an Elite. Which makes little sense to me.

The source of these figures seems to be the Halo Encyclopedia, and I think the standard is to use the newest material as the main source in case of conflicts. But we've all read through/contributed to the rants about how riddled with errors the Encyclopedia is, and I think I can see the source of the error in some of these cases.

The've mixed up kilograms with pounds.

It makes very strong sense for the Grunt and the Drone especially, because those kilogram figures are almost the same as the old pound figures. The Jackal would be a little bit on the anorexic side if it were only 88 pounds, so in that case the 195 lb. figure should probably be more correct. The Brute was always a heavyweight, but consider, if it were 680 pounds it would weigh a little more than twice as much as the old Elite did, the same that it used to be when the Elite was 500.

My proposal is to change the weights of the Grunt, Drone, and possibly the Brute so that it's the same number in pounds that it is now in kilograms. If it's unacceptable to consider correcting typos/errors in the Halo Encyclopedia like that, then my proposal is to find the more accurate-sounding numbers in the old sources, and replace the current ones with those. [[User talk:Flayer92|Flayer92]] 01:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

== Bungie and 343i Updates (from Twitter) ==

i don't know if anyone has noticed, but the section "Bungie and 343i Updates (from Twitter)" here on the main page doesn't work, maybe someone could fix it ?

==Xbox or X-Box?==

I'm sure you've all asked yourself this question, "How the hell should I spell Xbox/X-Box?!" You can see the different spellings throughout our articles, and knowing which way we should spell the console's name is a small, but important, issue. I tend to lean towards toward "Xbox", since that is the way Microsoft spells it, and so should be the way we should spell it as well, even if "X-Box" is technically correct. What do you guys think? --[[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="font-family: Apple Symbols;"><span style="color:lightgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''Turn'''</span> </span> <span style="color:darkgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''out'''</span> <span style="color:grey; font-size: 60%;">'''the'''</span> <span style="color:black; font-size: 95%;">'''Lights,'''</span>]] [[UserWiki:Kurt - O51|<span style=font-family: ;"><span style="color:lightgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''on'''</span> <span style="color:darkgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''your'''</span> <span style="color:grey; font-size: 60%">'''way'''</span> <span style="color:black; font-size: 95%;">'''Out'''</span>]] 03:08, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

==Drop the User blog:NAME in blogs==
This site is HUGE, no idea were to post this, so I am posting this here.

Your blogs, like so much on this site are incredible. 

I posted a question at wikia help:

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Drop_the_User_blog:NAME_in_blogs

About how you folks set up your blog, how you dropped the User blog:NAME in blogs.

Anyone care to post on the above link how you did this? thank you in advance. [[User talk:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 15:29, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

:Sorry, but from what I know, Halopedia is the only wiki that uses this Blog feature. The feature has been discontinued since 2008... oh, and it was given by Wikia when Halopedia and a few wikis were guinea pigs. You will most likely not get it. soz- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 15:58, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

==Welcome to Halopedia!==
I note that your "Welcome to Halopedia!" does not have a persons name. This is unfortunate, as new users would be able to have someone they could ask questions too. Please consider adding a name to this welcome. [[User talk:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 15:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

== Source formatting ==
I suggest we change formatting of sources for books and games because I think it looks a bit more precise. And here are my suggestions for my proposal:
#Books: <code>'''''<nowiki>[[Name of book]]</nowiki>''''' - ''Any sub-titles'', page Page number ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>, or if you want to link right to the book: <code>''<nowiki>[[Name of book]]</nowiki>'' ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>
#Games: <code>'''''<nowiki>[[Name of game]]</nowiki>''''' - <nowiki>[[Name of level/Name of level (level)#Any sub-title|</nowiki>''Name of level'', Any sub-title<nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>, or if you want to link right to the game: <code>''<nowiki>[[Name of game]]</nowiki>'' ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>
And as an example: If you want to source a quote from page  of ''Halo Encyclopedia'' as an example: <ref group="Source formatting">'''''[[Halo Encyclopedia]]''''' - ''Chapter Six: The Forerunners'', page 185 ("''The Libarian had a deep respect for humanity, whom she viewed as “special” among all of the sentient life she had catalogued and felt it was well worth the sacrafice of her life to save them.''")</ref>

And for something like a section from a level in ''Halo 3'': <ref group="Source formatting">'''''[[Halo 3]]''''' - [[Sierra 117#Quid Pro Quo|''Sierra 117'', Quid Pro Quo]]</ref>

<references group="Source formatting"/>

And other ways.--{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}

==Galactic government==
I have noticed that a lot of articles say that all human worlds are governed by the UNSC. It is wrong, yes, but this is not why I am here. I do not know what to replace it with. The United Nations is an organisation trying to keep nations together, while Unified Earth is only the government of Earth. The only thing I can think of would be (for example) "Jericho VII government" or "Harvest government". Can anyone else help?-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 23:58, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

:Something like "UEG puppet state"? I know that's not the best term, but UEG is the main government and these are all offshoots of it, right? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 01:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

:They seem to be pretty autonomous. Harvest didn't need a UN concensus for first contact, and its governor was in control of the colony. The enlistment ages on worlds vary, and I'm sure some conscript. I am also asking, in battle infoboxes, do we put the name of the power as belligerantd or their military (It seems to be UNSC against the Covenant empire)?-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 01:55, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
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 {{/Header}}<!-- Don't touch this line kthxbai -->
-==MoFD==
+== Page title capitalization guidelines ==
-Should (or can we) make a message of the day it could also help get people who just joined or are joining Halopedia to get up to speed also it doesn't have to be newcomers it could also let people know what has been happening like maybe a big change in the 'Pedia?-[[User talk:Ony2816]]
-==Project Stardust Reference Pictures==
+I thought about making a blog about this, but then again, it's small enough a matter to be discussed here. {{Username1|Dragonclaws}} already addressed this [[Blog:Please, Stop Being Human|in a blog]], as well as some comments but barely anyone has taken any note of it.
-I just thought I'd make something of a suggestion here. There's a fangame on Roblox called Project Stardust (which I will link when I get home), it's basically like a space warship combat game. It has lots of factions, but it has a whole section for Halo and some of the ship models are honestly really amazing. I'm not sure the canon status of some of them, like I know a select few of the ships in the game are complete fan works.
-However, there are some ships that are actual Halo universe ships, but are never pictured due to only ever appearing in books or what naught. One such example is the '''[[Razor-class prowler]]'''. On the current page, there are no reference images for it as I assume they do not exist, however the Razor-class is modeled in Project Stardust with unknown canon status. There are of course other examples, but that's just the one that came to mind. There are other modeled ships that are faithful to the canon that I think would be good to add, such as the '''[[Halcyon-class light cruiser]]''' and the '''[[Paris-class heavy frigate]]''', which have models in the game that I'm very impressed with.
+So my question is, why is it common practice that we capitalize every word in page titles? For a recent example, [[Unnamed Sabre Launch Facility]] and [[Space Station|countless]] [[Orbital Bombardment|more]]. "Launch", or "facility", aren't proper nouns and shouldn't be capitalized. I've done it myself in the past, yes, but just because it's common practice here. Wikipedia doesn't do it, and for a reason. It makes titles look out of place and complicates linking. If one wants to make a link for such a page, and they don't want to make the text to look awkward, it needs a redirect or a piped link.
-Permission of the creators of Project Stardust might be important, but I could certainly look into that.
+So it's like we have this capitalization rule as a relic from the old times, but no one has bothered to do anything about it. I say we change it so that only proper nouns are capitalized, and with normal ones, lowercase letters will be used. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:14, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
-I know I'm not a community member here really, but I really really love Halopedia and appreciate all of the knowledge here, and I just thought it could be helpful to include some of these as gallery images, especially for ships that have very little coverage.  [[User:Spr1ft17|--Sprift (They/them don&#39;t forget)]] ([[User talk:Spr1ft17|talk]]) 11:30, August 27, 2024 (EDT)August 27th, 2024, 11:30AM EST
-:Thanks for the suggestion, but Halopedia has an explicit hard line on not using images from ''any'' kind of fan project or fan art - we only permit images from officially-released ''Halo'' sources from Bungie, 343, Microsoft, and so forth. The sole exception is a very small handful of [[Sins of the Prophets]] images, as they were officially used by 343 themselves as part of collaborations in the 2022 Encyclopedia and Canon Fodder articles (and even then, no images from the mod except those ''explicitly'' published by 343 in an official context are allowed).[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 11:33, August 27, 2024 (EDT)
-Okay, understood!
+:Yeah, I started writing a blog with a formal proposal, but this is as good a place as any to discuss it. As is expected, I'm for the grammatical capitalization. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:20, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
-[[User:Spr1ft17|--Sprift/Szarm/Charm/Sequence]] ([[User talk:Spr1ft17|talk]]) 11:44, August 27, 2024 (EDT)
-==Dates==
+::Yes, this has been on my mind for a while now. Halopedia has ''serious'' capitalization problems, and we really need to introduce a new policy regarding it. I've seen proper use of capitalization on another wiki I am common on, and things look much tidier and efficient. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 14:11, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
-Should dates on articles have the rd, th, nd, and st, or should we not do that on articles? [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 21:47, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
-:I don't think so, I don't do it at least. Wikipedia doesn't do it either. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 21:51, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
+:::See Dragonclaws' [[Forum:Proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically|proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically]].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 14:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
-::I have noticed a few pages with it, but I do not know if there is a certain occasion one would use it. Oops forgot to sign my comment. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 23:52, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
+== Problems with Wiki ==
-:::[http://data.grammarbook.com/blog/numbers/writing-dates-and-times/ Here's a guide]. So basically, we don't use it at all. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 23:55, 3 June 2016 (EDT)
+Most of the Wiki's basic features are down for me. Whenever I try to upload or delete an image, move or delete a page, rollback an edit or block someone, I get the following message: ''"The database is currently locked. Our main datacenter is down, you are accessing our backup datacenter. We are working to fix the problem"''. In addition, features like comments or avatars are down as well. It's been doing this for about three days already so it seems to take a bit long to be routine maintenance. Needless to say, it is extremely frustrating. Is this happening for anyone else or is it region-specific or just me? Because I've seen some others upload and delete images or pages with no problem, and if the database is really locked, how is that possible? It doesn't do this on other wikia sites though, just Halopedia. Haven't really seen anyone else report the problem so I guess it has to be regional. Just asking if it can be fixed, or if I just have to wait patiently. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:42, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
-::::Per NightHammer, dates don't need those suffixes. Please remove them anytime you see them in an article.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 14:19, 4 June 2016 (EDT)
-== Navigation section ==
+:That happens often to me, mostly when I tried deleting an article. Simply refresh and repeat the procedure will sometime bypass this error. However, the error might not afterall be an error; Wikia could have taken down the features for temporary maintanence without notifying the administration team because it could simply be a minor bug that they wished to fix. So, just be patient is all I can say. :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 18:55, June 22, 2010 (UTC)
+:I'm also having problems with pictures. it wont show the pictures for me. when i right click and click show picture it still does not work anyone else have pic problems?[[User talk:SPARTAN-III leader|SPARTAN-III leader]] 16:40, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
-Hey everyone, I feel like it may be time to update the Main Page navigation, as it's been the same now for a few years. I have two working draft ideas [[User:Spartacus/Sandbox|here]]. Do note the images on layout <nowiki>#</nowiki>2 are merely placeholders for now. Any feedback would be most appreciated, thanks.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 18:44, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+==Sidebar==
+Ok, so what the hell is wrong with the sidebar? Where did the Halo stuff go and what the f**k is up with all those picture links? - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 22:44, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
+:No idea. Blame Wikia :P BTW, it wasn't like that 10 minutes ago...--[[File:Brigadier Grade One.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;General5 7&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:50, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
+::Yeah I know, it suddenly appeared. At last it's back now... - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 07:40, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
+:This happened to me once but it is back now. ;-) --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User profile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 15:53, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
-:Definitely number one [[User:Japeth555|Japeth555]] ([[User talk:Japeth555|talk]]) 19:03, 27 February 2017 (EST)Japeth555
+==Usage of bracketed addendums in article titles==
+I've begun to notice the unneeded usage of bracketed addendums in a sizable amount of articles lately, usually those that have a level of the same name. Examples of this include [[343 Guilty Spark (Monitor)]], [[Armory (Room)]], [[High Charity (Structure)]], [[Cairo Station (Platform)]], [[Gravemind (Form)]], [[Kizingo Boulevard (Location)]] and countless others. If several articles share the same name, the bracketed distinction should only follow the titles of those named after the primary subject.
-::Deffo number 1.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 19:24, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+For example, there are two instances in the ''Halo'' series titled "343 Guilty Spark"; the monitor and the level. The level is named after the monitor, thus should be the only article using bracketed information in its title to distinguish it from the primary subject, with a small note at the top of the page to cover any confusion ("''Were you looking for ____?''"). If there is more than two instances, [[Gravemind]] for instance, the same rule should apply, but with a disambiguation page made to organize the other secondarily named pages, again with a note linking to it ("''For other uses of "Gravemind", see Gravemind (disambiguation)''"). This is what I, and indeed many other wikis, think should apply when it comes to this scenario, and I think Halopedia should implement it also. While I believe this should be incorporated into the [[Halopedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], I'd like to address it here, and see what people think. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:33, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
+:I think you should have brought this up in a blog or on the forum, but whatever. Well, your points are valid; problem is, we need some sort of list in order to locate all articles about subjects named after something else and have a parenthesis indicating that, if we are to start correcting them. It's crazy to start looking for such articles all around the site. Another problem is that there are already articles like 343 Guilty Spark and Gravemind, without brackets, but they are disambiguation pages, so we need to carefully copy-paste everything on them and SOMEHOW keep the disambiguation page as well because it's needed. And as per an old proposal by Manticore, we may not create pages with the word "disambiguation" in brackets (it would also not make sense since we are trying to get rid of them). So yeah, its not that easy.- [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 20:50, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
+::About the list of pages about that subject, you misunderstand, I stated that there of course should be disambiguation pages, but that the name of the page detailing the primary subject should go unchanged. And as for this proposal of Manticore's, I have never heard of it before, but think it to be quite ridiculous. We ''need'' disambiguation pages, as what I'm proposing is to retain consistency, the term "disambiguation" is inevitable to retain that, its elimination is nothing more than preference over order and consistency. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:57, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
-::: #1 [[User:Lord Susto|<span style="color:orange">Lord Susto</span>]] 21:11, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+:I couldn't agree more; I was just thinking about this a while ago. Pages with the name of the original subject (like [[Gravemind]] or [[Covenant]]) should obviously not be disambiguation pages, since the original subject is what people are looking for - or linking to - most of the time. Like you said, the primary subject article should have a link to the disambiguation page which would have the addendum (disambiguation). It's a good idea, and common practice in most wikis anyways. Also, the bracketed addendums shouldn't be capitalized like they have been before, for example, Cairo Station ('''P'''latform) or High Charity ('''S'''tructure). That makes it easier to link to them, not to mention more grammatically correct. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 21:01, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
+::I didn't say I disagree; I was referring to the old proposal which I'm sure the older admins will remember of. But the idea is good. - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 21:23, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
+:::{{Support}} - The sentence should be as so: ''"SUBJECT redirects here. For more uses of SUBJECT, see SUBJECT (disambiguation)"''. Oh, it was me who began making disambiguation pages which were later deleted by Manticore back in 2007/08 if you're wondering....- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
-::::Per above. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 23:18, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+== Fanon Titles ==
-:''(reset indent)'' Agree with everyone else; the icons in the second version just take up space on the page for no real reason. The quotes under each section in #1 (e.g. "Explore the enigmatic universe!") are a bit cheesy, though that's just a minor thing. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 23:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+I have had it with fan-titles as the '''main''' title because this is an encyclopedia not some forum in which fan-titles are allowed in (with the exceptions such as [[Final Grunt]] or [[Hugging Elite]]) and we should do something about this, so I have made a project on moving: [[Covenant Rope]], [[Brute Landmine]], [[Covenant Supercruiser]], [[Crow's Nest Bomb]], (there are more but I am too lazy to make a draft for all of them). This is one of the many problems with halopedia. --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User profile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 06:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
-::I left those quotes on there by mistake and just forgot to remove them. Just like everyone else, my preference is for the first format, more because it's less images to manage.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 23:49, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+:Make a proper proposal or don't propose anything at all... >.< - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
+::How about make a proper reply or don't reply at all... >.< --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User profile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 07:32, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
+:::Cally, one more proper smartass comment from you and you'll get an all-expenses paid [suspension] vacation. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|June 30th, 2010}}
+:::Oh, the irony.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 09:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
+:What would you propose they be moved to? Is not "Covenant Rope" (or "rope") an accurate description if not an official name? If anything, I would think those Easter eggs are the least appropriate, and I could see them being moved to something like "Comical Grunt (Halo 3)" and "Elite (Easter Egg)". --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 09:57, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
+::Titles like those may be more appropriate, but the current ones are easier to find and link to. Plus, there are tons of Elite-related easter eggs, for example. The use of fan-made names should not be encouraged, but in the case of easter eggs, I think it's simply more convenient unless the title is something utterly ridiculous. Besides, a title like "Hugging Elite" pretty much describes what it does. As for titles like "Covenant Rope", I think that's descriptive enough to make it clear that it's not the official name of the item and adding "Unnamed" to it won't really change it at all. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:10, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
+:::I am saying that easter egg titles are not included but some articles are not like that and do not really fit halopedia mainly because of their fan-titles in which I have made several drafts and currently two more pages to fix, and if you want to see them look at the list:
+:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/1|1.]]
+:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/2|2.]]
+:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/3|3.]]
+:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/5|4.]]
+:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/6|5.]]
+:::[[User:Cally99117/Drafts/7|6.]]
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+::::But those names aren't "fan-names" like dubbing Rtas 'Vadum "Half-Jaw" because of his jaw injury when we had no idea what his name was. Each of those is an accurate description of something whose name we don't know. I don't see why your names are necessarily better than the things we have now. How is "Brute Landmine" a fan-name and "Hugging Elite" is just fine? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
+:::::I have only chosen a few like Brute Landmine because it has absolutely no sources or evidence to prove that is a near canon title and Covenant Supercruiser which has never been confirmed to be a cruiser. RE: Hugging Elite: We as i said easter eggs are not included becausethey are for fan speculation. --[[File:Major Grade One.png|20px|link=User profile:Cally99117]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/IRC Quotes|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]][[UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 18:25, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
+:::::I might start thinking about including stuff like Hugging Elite and other easter eggs and glitches. So should I make this into a forum now? --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
+::::::I think you can go ahead. I do agree with some stuff, like the "Crow's Nest Bomb" and "Legendary Planet". I do disagree with stuff like the land mine. "Brute Landmine" and "Covenant Rope" are descriptions, just as your "Unidentified Air Burst Mine" and "Unidentified Covenant Tether" are descriptions. Of course, I can offer no official sources showing that their current titles are canon, but neither can you with your descriptive titles. It is clear that the mine is of Brute-origin and that the rope is of Covenant origin, so the titles are accurate even if they are not canon. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 17:58, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
+:::::::And about easter eggs and glitches; they are mostly non-canon so they might stay (as non-canon and unconfirmed titles work in a bit of a similar way). --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
+:::::::[[Forum:Proposal to Replace fan-made Titles|Here]] is the new proposal. --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
-==Menu page suggestions==
+==(Level)==
-I have a few notes that I thought of that should be relatively easy to make or change. All thanks to Spartacus's idea to change the navi bar.
+Okay, this has been annoying me. On Wikipedia, parentheses are used in links to disambiguate. For instance, on Wikipedia, [[Wikipedia:Halo|Halo]] takes you straight to the disambiguation page of all things that are called Halo, and you have to use [[Wikipedia:Halo (series)|Halo (series)]] to get to our beloved franchise. Likewise, on Halopedia, [[Halo]] is a disambiguation page, and you can choose [[Halo (Halo 3 Level)]] or [[Halo (Halo: Combat Evolved Level)]], etc. to get whatever article you want. However, the parentheses have been extended past simple disambiguation and into a rather pointless classification method. When we've got two or more things with the same name, such as Cortana, then it makes sense to have [[Cortana]] and [[Cortana (Level)]]. Because Cortana the AI is the most obvious use of "Cortana", the [[Cortana]] page is specifically our favorite AI's page, which makes sense. The problem is that "(Level)" has been adopted as something automatically put in a level's title, which is excessive and doesn't make sense. The fact that "Assault on the Control Room" is a level should be obvious from the context of the link or from the content of the page, depending on how one is arriving at the page, and placing "(Level)" in the title for no reason but classification is just superfluous. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 10:36, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
-. Could we perhaps move the "Did You Know?" to the bottom moving up the "Article Improvement Drive". Makes the improvement area more clear so they ye know get done.
+:Agreed. I have no idea how a practice like this came to be; having the (Level) addendum is pointless when the only article with that name is of the level. It stands to reason it should only be used when there's another subject with the same name. Also, now that we're adopting the new capitalization standard, shouldn't the parentheses be in lowercase most of the time?  --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:56, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
-. Small idea, borrowing it off Halo Nation of all places, a Monthly poll. Seems harmless enough.
+::The practise became official back in 2007/08, as with the capitalisation though I can't seem to find archives of it. I believe one of the argument for the practise was to maintain consistency, but don't take my word for it.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 11:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
-. Another idea, a featured image? Might be cool to start that. I mean we have featured everything else, might be cool to have that.
+== Covenant Species Weights ==
-. Could we perhaps lower the "Welcome back, Reclaimer!" user count from 16 to 12?
+I know there isn't much room in Wikis for jokes, but here's just one to start off a long analysis. Please don't ban me. Cracked.com ran an article called 5 Things We're Making Fatter in Addition to Ourselves. And I've noticed a somewhat similar trend over the Covenant species articles with their weights. They've almost all gone up, to somewhat ridiculous levels, with the exception of Elites, who have lost about 200 lbs. and Prophets, who've stayed the same.
-. We need more Featured stuff to be nominated, that is something we can all work on fairly easy enough.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 19:24, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+I don't have precise figures to quote, but from memory here is a comparison of the original species weight to the current one:
-:1) I'd like to do that because of it's importance. 2) I don't know whether or not we have the code to do that. 3) A featured image is something I've wanted to for quite a while but have never gotten around to it. It would certainly be a nice addition. 4) That's fine with me. 5) Yeah, it just needs more promotion which is more or less up to the administration team. Thank you for the suggestions!--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup>  22:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
-:As for your fifth point, I think we shouldn't just nominate articles because we need more featured articles. It should be based on articles that are legitimately worthy of it. I've been kinda pedantic with that lately and there is a handful of articles currently "featured" that I think could still use some work (including several I've nominated).
+Grunts: 118 kg/260 lbs (current) vs. 110 lbs (original)
-:I've considered the idea of having a featured content system similar to Wookieepedia, with "comprehensive" (for smaller articles under 250 words) and "good" articles (articles with a word count between comprehensive and featured articles, as opposed to Wikipedia's "good" articles which are simply lower in quality than featured articles). However, I feel like it would be difficult to maintain. And where do we draw the line for articles that can be considered "comprehensive" and articles that contain everything about a subject but are literally just one sentence and hard to consider "featured" worthy (in my opinion, [[Minister (planet)|Minister]] is a good example of a comprehensive article here). --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 23:18, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+Jackals: 88 kg/195 lbs (current) vs. ~150 lbs (original)
-::The "comprehensive" articles are definitely an idea worth considering. In general, different kinds of projects like this are great as long as they keep getting updated - it's good to keep in mind that Halopedia used to have all sorts of community activities in its heyday (like Halopedian of the Month, etc.) which have since gotten discontinued due to a lack of activity. Then again, our user base seems to have rebuilt itself somewhat after the dip that followed the domain change, so it may be worth a shot to try these kinds of things again. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 23:38, 27 February 2017 (EST)
+Drones: 130 kg/280 lbs (current) vs. ~130 lbs (original)
-:::I wouldn't be opposed to any of that. In hindsight, killing Halopedian of the Month was an idea I now regret, as it was a way to reward users making outstanding contributions. I wouldn't mind trying to bring that back as long as it gets activity and is updated.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup>  11:32, 28 February 2017 (EST)
-::::I wouldn't mind bringing it back. I think the main issue is that there is probably only 12ish active users here, so it may end up just cycling between regulars. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 12:08, 28 February 2017 (EST)
+Brutes: 680 kg/1500 lbs (current) vs. 1100 lbs (original)
-(indent reset) *Now drum roll* I propose we bring back Halopedia Twitter and Facebook(alongside making Discord our main chat area), get more people to start to come here with the power of '''!!SOCIAL MEDIA!!'''. I mean the bigger presence we have, the more of a chance we get more people to come here.
+Just looking at these, the Grunt and Drone figures seem ridiculous. How does a Grunt, a much shorter and smaller creature than a human, weigh in so much heavier? And the Drone would be in the obese category in human classification, yet not only is it a pretty trim-looking creature, it's a flying one.
-But(and this is a huge BUT), we have to start getting content that is "featured" so said Twitter, and Facebook has some base content to mention. Gets us something to drag people in and hopefully gets us a few new editors. And after awhile, we can start doing more with the Twitter and facebook, like "TodayinHalo", and competitions(with maybe prizes if we are able).-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 13:25, 28 February 2017 (EST)
+The Jackal and Brute aren't as egregious as this, but they're still somewhat implausible figures. The Jackal is supposed to have hollow bones and it looks pretty skinny, but it's probably the most acceptable figure out of these four. Before the Elite's weight was changed from around 500 to its present of around 320 lbs, the Brute weighed 1,100. So it weighed a little more than twice as much as an Elite. Plausible. Now with the new figures, the Brute weighs 5 times as much as an Elite. Which makes little sense to me.
-:Absolutely, as long as there's someone willing to handle those social media accounts and keep them up to date. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 00:30, 1 March 2017 (EST)
+The source of these figures seems to be the Halo Encyclopedia, and I think the standard is to use the newest material as the main source in case of conflicts. But we've all read through/contributed to the rants about how riddled with errors the Encyclopedia is, and I think I can see the source of the error in some of these cases.
-::In order for it to work we'd need multiple users with access to these social media pages. I was given control of Halopedia's Facebook page about a year ago by Nicmavr. I try my best to update it regularly but it's too big of a task for just me to handle, so if anyone is interested in helping out, drop me a message here or on Discord and we can discuss it.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup>  11:52, 1 March 2017 (EST)
-In no particular relation to the above, except for the OP, I'm not sure the "Meet other Halo fans" widget is all that necessary or useful; I like that we have something to welcome users back, but how many people actually ever use the randomized user links? We could maybe keep, IDK, one or two rows of those if need be and maybe add something more generally useful to the template like info on ongoing projects, etc. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 12:31, 1 March 2017 (EST)
+The've mixed up kilograms with pounds.
-:Agreed, I'd rather just remove it completely given we already have a [[Halopedia:Halopedians|page]] better suited for that.--[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: green; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;" title="Spartacus is an administrator.">'''''Spartacus'''''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Talk</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]'''</sup>  12:39, 1 March 2017 (EST)
-::While waiting for a decision from the administration, I've linked the Halopedian project page to the Meet other Halo fans widget as a temporary solution.
+It makes very strong sense for the Grunt and the Drone especially, because those kilogram figures are almost the same as the old pound figures. The Jackal would be a little bit on the anorexic side if it were only 88 pounds, so in that case the 195 lb. figure should probably be more correct. The Brute was always a heavyweight, but consider, if it were 680 pounds it would weigh a little more than twice as much as the old Elite did, the same that it used to be when the Elite was 500.
-::As for the above suggestions, please be informed that #1 and #4 has been taken care of. As for #2, we can bring back the montly poll. I believe this is still accessible in the wiki tools. For #3, we can do a featured image if we can do it along the lines of how Wikipedia does theirs (e.g. with good descriptions and proper attributions/credits/sourcing). I share the same opinion as Nighthammer in relation to #5. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:10, 1 March 2017 (EST)
-==Book Chapter vs Page numbers==
+My proposal is to change the weights of the Grunt, Drone, and possibly the Brute so that it's the same number in pounds that it is now in kilograms. If it's unacceptable to consider correcting typos/errors in the Halo Encyclopedia like that, then my proposal is to find the more accurate-sounding numbers in the old sources, and replace the current ones with those. [[User talk:Flayer92|Flayer92]] 01:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
-I have a huge thing I wanna suggest. But its one of those things that really does need to be discussed cause its started to become a problem of recent years. That problem is the rising popularity in Digital media. That even some Halo Books start off as Digital media.
-Now why is this a problem you ask. Well it causes hell on the whole system we have where we say the Book name, then say the page it is on. As numerous formats might have some chapters being on radically different pages.
+== Bungie and 343i Updates (from Twitter) ==
-Now I propose this possible method to change how we source a book. Throwing out the old method of page numbers on their own. We say the Book/Novella name as normal, but now we say the chapter instead. This ensures no matter what users can still find content if they wish. And in brackets we put the format used and the page in that format the item was found on.
+i don't know if anyone has noticed, but the section "Bungie and 343i Updates (from Twitter)" here on the main page doesn't work, maybe someone could fix it ?
-For example if I was wanting to source a SMAC in Halo the fall of reach 2001 paperback edition. I would put the following down.
+==Xbox or X-Box?==
-'''[[Halo: The Fall of Reach]]''' ''-Chapter 33 (Physical paperback - Page 256'')
+I'm sure you've all asked yourself this question, "How the hell should I spell Xbox/X-Box?!" You can see the different spellings throughout our articles, and knowing which way we should spell the console's name is a small, but important, issue. I tend to lean towards toward "Xbox", since that is the way Microsoft spells it, and so should be the way we should spell it as well, even if "X-Box" is technically correct. What do you guys think? --[[User:Kurt - O51|<span style="font-family: Apple Symbols;"><span style="color:lightgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''Turn'''</span> </span> <span style="color:darkgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''out'''</span> <span style="color:grey; font-size: 60%;">'''the'''</span> <span style="color:black; font-size: 95%;">'''Lights,'''</span>]] [[UserWiki:Kurt - O51|<span style=font-family: ;"><span style="color:lightgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''on'''</span> <span style="color:darkgrey; font-size: 60%;">'''your'''</span> <span style="color:grey; font-size: 60%">'''way'''</span> <span style="color:black; font-size: 95%;">'''Out'''</span>]] 03:08, July 20, 2010 (UTC)
-Like I did start to notice some folks were going though our sources and going, "I cant find it". Meaning something needs to be done.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 10:48, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+==Drop the User blog:NAME in blogs==
+This site is HUGE, no idea were to post this, so I am posting this here.
-:I see what you mean, and I think the idea is splendid. Except I think we should tweak it just a little bit; After noting the chapter, a small excerpt where the relevant information is should be quoted as to save those who do not have the book - or those who would rather not read an entire chapter to read the sentence they are looking for - the time of trying to find a small part in a sometimes very large chapter. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 11:00, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+Your blogs, like so much on this site are incredible.
-::I believe there was some discussion about this a while back and I agree. The chapter thing would definitely be useful for more reasons than one, and we've already been identifying the early novel reissues and Google Play editions in sources for some time. Labeling every edition is just the logical next step from that. To avoid radically changing to our existing format, however, I'd make the new one something like the following:
+I posted a question at wikia help:
-::'''Halo: The Fall of Reach''', Chapter 15, ''page 77'' (2001 paperback); ''page 113'' (2010 paperback); ''page 4'' (Google Play)
+http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Drop_the_User_blog:NAME_in_blogs
-::Basically, letting people add different formats based on their ability and interest. In practice, most sources would probably include just one. As for Arcmind's suggestion, quotes could be added after the page numbers like we've already been doing in some cases (see [[Banished#Sources]] for an example). --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 11:04, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+About how you folks set up your blog, how you dropped the User blog:NAME in blogs.
-:::That's another great idea, but then you have some people who might not have access to all of the various versions of the book. I mean some might and I am sure there are man fans who will, but then the wiki would have some sourced completely and other would not, thereby causing a ripple in our consistency. It might work for most stuff since we all probably have it, but would it prove reliable in all situations? [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 11:08, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+Anyone care to post on the above link how you did this? thank you in advance. [[User talk:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 15:29, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
-::::I'm afraid it's just a reality we won't be able to consistently list every edition in our sources, but I'd say listing one or two is still better than having no page numbers at all, especially with specific information like measurements. Adding the chapter number (and ideally a quote) will at least point people in the right direction, while the pages (while not useful to everyone) are a definite plus. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 12:10, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+:Sorry, but from what I know, Halopedia is the only wiki that uses this Blog feature. The feature has been discontinued since 2008... oh, and it was given by Wikia when Halopedia and a few wikis were guinea pigs. You will most likely not get it. soz- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 15:58, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
-::::I understand. However in that case we should at least the pick the two most common versions that we should always use for our sources; a hard back - if possible - and a paperback version. That way we get the two most common types and the more exclusive editions will be left for folks to looks through. That should at least preserve a level of consistency in our sourcing an make things easier on us. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 12:39, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+==Welcome to Halopedia!==
+I note that your "Welcome to Halopedia!" does not have a persons name. This is unfortunate, as new users would be able to have someone they could ask questions too. Please consider adding a name to this welcome. [[User talk:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 15:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
-:::::That should be preferred, but at the same time, not everyone can be expected to have access to even those two types of editions. I, for example, have only been buying the Google Play ebook versions since ''New Blood'' as they're more handy in most ways. So in practice most of our sources will still likely end up having only one source for page numbers, though listing the chapter number (and preferably quote in the case of specific information) will still improve things a lot compared to the current situation. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 13:25, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+== Source formatting ==
+I suggest we change formatting of sources for books and games because I think it looks a bit more precise. And here are my suggestions for my proposal:
+#Books: <code>'''''<nowiki>[[Name of book]]</nowiki>''''' - ''Any sub-titles'', page Page number ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>, or if you want to link right to the book: <code>''<nowiki>[[Name of book]]</nowiki>'' ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>
+#Games: <code>'''''<nowiki>[[Name of game]]</nowiki>''''' - <nowiki>[[Name of level/Name of level (level)#Any sub-title|</nowiki>''Name of level'', Any sub-title<nowiki>]]</nowiki></code> ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>, or if you want to link right to the game: <code>''<nowiki>[[Name of game]]</nowiki>'' ("''Quote (optional)''")</code>
+And as an example: If you want to source a quote from page  of ''Halo Encyclopedia'' as an example: <ref group="Source formatting">'''''[[Halo Encyclopedia]]''''' - ''Chapter Six: The Forerunners'', page 185 ("''The Libarian had a deep respect for humanity, whom she viewed as “special” among all of the sentient life she had catalogued and felt it was well worth the sacrafice of her life to save them.''")</ref>
-::::::That sounds reasonable. Also, if you have ebooks, you would not happen to have the art of halo 3 would you? I ask because we we're looking for an image of the UNSC craft carrier but currently images for it are near non-existent and those that do are of poor quality. [[File:Eld-Alternate.png|20px|stick|link=]][[User:Arcmind|<span style="color: #b30000;" title="">'''Arcmind'''</span>]] <sup>'''[[User talk:Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117>Execute long hold for reactivation.</span>]] [[File:Hand of God.png|6px|stick]] [[Special:Contributions/Arcmind|<span style="color:#EAC117">AI-COM/ACMD SIGNOFF</span>]]'''</sup> 15:57, 2 March 2017 (EST)
+And for something like a section from a level in ''Halo 3'': <ref group="Source formatting">'''''[[Halo 3]]''''' - [[Sierra 117#Quid Pro Quo|''Sierra 117'', Quid Pro Quo]]</ref>
-:::::::Unfortunately I don't have ''The Art of Halo 3'' in any form. That book has been notoriously hard to come by for some years now, and I don't think a digital edition (or a reasonable-quality scan) exists. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 08:21, 3 March 2017 (EST)
+<references group="Source formatting"/>
-== Dates in community news ==
+And other ways.--{{User:Cally99117/Sig}}
-The release date for Halo: Rise of Atriox Issue 1 needs to be changed from Aug 2 to Aug 30.--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 20:25, 3 August 2017 (EDT)d9328
+==Galactic government==
+I have noticed that a lot of articles say that all human worlds are governed by the UNSC. It is wrong, yes, but this is not why I am here. I do not know what to replace it with. The United Nations is an organisation trying to keep nations together, while Unified Earth is only the government of Earth. The only thing I can think of would be (for example) "Jericho VII government" or "Harvest government". Can anyone else help?-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 23:58, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
-== New arcade game called Halo team raven ==
+:Something like "UEG puppet state"? I know that's not the best term, but UEG is the main government and these are all offshoots of it, right? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 01:43, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
-I have never been good at doing articles I do small minor changes but never big ones but there is a new arcade game set in the first halo called team raven and it tells the story from there point of view.  Hopefully we can get a full review of its weapons and other content in the near future {{Unsigned|Spartan Matt}}
+:They seem to be pretty autonomous. Harvest didn't need a UN concensus for first contact, and its governor was in control of the colony. The enlistment ages on worlds vary, and I'm sure some conscript. I am also asking, in battle infoboxes, do we put the name of the power as belligerantd or their military (It seems to be UNSC against the Covenant empire)?-- [[User talk:Forerunner|Forerunner]] 01:55, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
-== change article path ==
-please can the article path be changed from <code>/$1</code> to <code>/wiki/$1</code>?
-the /wiki/$1 article path is better than this currently used.--[[user:PSL600|Psl600]] 14:35, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
-:Why is it better? I'd like to know a reason behind why its better to be honest?-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 14:52, 3 September 2018 (EDT)
-:: it i better because to know that it is the wiki, otherwise, i think it is non-wiki page, and if we still have <code>/$1</code> article path, typing <code>/wiki/$1</code> (example: http://www.halopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page)  will result landing on the "Wiki/Main_Page" and I want to land on "Main Page" without the "Wiki/" prefix. [[user:PSL600|Psl600]] 12:24, 4 September 2018 (EDT)
-== Fan content ==
-I think there should be an article about Halo FAN CONTENT! I would do this, but I am INEXPERIENCED at making articles.{{Unsigned|Cheatcodeman}}
-:I'd recommend you take a look at our [[Halopedia:Notability_policy#Fan_content|existing guidelines]] on fanworks. We do allow articles on a very small number of fan works (such as [[Red vs. Blue]]) that are of substantial scale and notability within the franchise. However, due to the sheer amount of fan content out there, we typically very rarely allow for new fan project articles to be created (and as of recent, we've been re-evaluating which ones to keep or remove). I'd recommend checking out [https://halofanon.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page Halo Fanon] for more in the realm of fan content.[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 16:32, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
-::What about fan Games? Are those Fine? --[[User:Cheatcodeman|Cheatcodeman]] ([[User talk:Cheatcodeman|talk]]) 16:37, May 27, 2021 (EDT)Cheatcodeman
-:::Same deal - only rarely, if they can be proven to be of substantial scale within their space, and have been recognised by multiple news outlets (IE articles on sites such as PC Gamer, Kotaku, Polygon etc) or 343 themselves. We have pages dedicated to some mod projects such as OPTRE and SoTP that have recieved official recognition from 343 themselves, and have extensive media coverage outside of that. In the case of your game (which I would assume is what this is about), it would unfortunately not fall under these guidelines. [[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 16:43, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
-::::Okay. Just making sure.;) didn't want to accidentally make an article about something that wasn't supposed to be there. --[[User:Cheatcodeman|Cheatcodeman]] ([[User talk:Cheatcodeman|talk]]) 16:57, May 27, 2021 (EDT)Cheatcodeman
-:::::No worries, thanks for checking first. I'd also highly recommend joining the Discord server, as we have a pretty active userbase there too (link in the navigation bar on the left) [[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 16:58, May 27, 2021 (EDT)
-There is an entire wiki for fan content. If you are talking about a display of works, such as Red vs Blue, there is a section on the Main page about it. The fan wiki is Halo Fanon. {{Unsigned|Sangheili4657}}
-== RvB references ==
-I have looked TWICE, and I found nothing. Could I (or someone else, LOL) create an article on references to RvB in Halo? --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 19:16, May 29, 2021 (EDT)
-:There is a section under the Red vs. Blue article [[Red_vs._Blue#Homage_from_the_Halo_series|here]]. <span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">'''[[User:JackVibe|<span style="color:#000;">Jack</span>]][[User talk:JackVibe|<span style="color:#888;">Vibe</span>]]'''</span> 05:58, May 30, 2021 (EDT)
-== I need a favor ==
-I need some pictures/screenshots of the Halo: Reach armor permutations, at [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/540909659/ this] angle.
-Must be done ASAP. I only need the armor in sets, all but the helmets.
-If someone could do that, I be thankful! Every picture will be used with credit. --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 20:12, June 7, 2021 (EDT)
-:Just a heads up that this area isnt for requests like this. It is for discussions on the wiki as a whole. It may be better to request help on more public spaces.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 20:42, June 7, 2021 (EDT)
-::What would you recommend? --Da BOI OF DA YEAAARR CHEATCODEMAN 12:37, June 8, 2021 (EDT)
-== Missing feature ==
-Halopedia has a missing feature that Wikipedia has, and that's the '''protected edit request'''. It posts something on the talk page like [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki talk:Anoneditwarning#Protected edit request on 8 September 2021|this]]. And when it's done, the person that did it would reply with {{Tem|Done}}. And when the request is posted, the section says "Protected edit request on example date". Please use {{Tem|Support}} if you think it's a good idea, and {{Tem|Oppose}} if you think it's a bad idea for whatever reason. [[User:EthanGaming117|EthanGaming7640]] ([[User talk:EthanGaming117|talk]]) 13:57, September 8, 2021 (EDT)
-:Yea please dont put this stuff to a vote off the gate. We on the staff try to investigate stuff before we reach that stage. Assuming we dont just push it at that point.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 17:09, September 8, 2021 (EDT)
-== How do I create an article / page. ==
-I cannot find any information or way to create a page. Help.
-== Halo meme of the Month? ==
-Can we make a user-elected halo meme of the month?-[[User talk:Ony2816]]