Halopedia talk:Canon policy

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Hierarchy of Canon

I propose we should just get rid of the canon hierarchy, at least in its present form. The games/expanded universe divide hasn't represented the reality of how Halo canon has worked since 2009 for either 343i or us in this wiki, except in regards to marketing material. There are a lot of considerations that come into play with how information is presented in different media, which means it's not always ideal to favor a game over an "EU" source even if there is a conflict. Oftentimes the novels can go into more detail about certain things that the games have to condense and simplify for general audiences (e.g. the Forerunner elements of the Halo 4 terminals vs. The Forerunner Saga). Besides that, 343i has gone on record saying everything is equally canon, sans some pieces of marketing or other media that's explicitly been labeled non-canon. And seeing as we barely ever have any reason to apply the supposed "hierarchy" anyway, it would be clearer to just get rid of it (aside from maybe a note that released materials are generally superior to marketing if there's a conflict). --Jugus (talk) 11:37, 13 October 2016 (EDT)

Support Agreed.Sith Venator (Dank Memes) 11:45, 13 October 2016 (EDT)

Support I see no reason to keep it. I don't recall ever using it.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 12:47, 13 October 2016 (EDT)

Support Agreed. --NightHammer^{(talk)(contribs)} 13:56, 13 October 2016 (EDT)

Neutral Really if you wanted to keep it. According to 343i statements in the past. It would be. Everything > Marketing -CIA391 (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2016 (EDT)

Neutral Would you happen to have any links handy we could use as references? --Jugus (talk) 00:25, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

Here: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/db05ce78845f4120b062c50816008e5d/topics/should-the-games-still-be-highest-canon/4f1af3e4-3a6e-455e-88de-19f18550c672/posts?page=2#post30

Grim called them the "squishiest" to add in. Agreeing to my comment.

I first heard of semi-ruling from the Catalog in PMs. But unless he wants me to give his Gamertag. Might be best to refrain from quoting it.-CIA391 (talk) 03:50, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

Support Doubt my opinon matters since everyone has said it but meh, I agree. Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 05:46, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

Oppose I disagree. It's a good way to deal with contradictions. Editorguy (talk) 19:03, 16 July 2018 (EDT)

The Non Canon Section

Very useful to have the items listed like this so we know. That being said, I recommend you add All Hail and The Cost to that list. Thanks!--AdmiralPedro1stFleet (talk) 12:53, October 29, 2020 (EDT)

Piggybacking off this section, Showtime's Halo TV show ought to have a special note clarifying that the Silver Timeline is its own separate canon. Also a few things are missing and need to be included in the list! (Rise of Atriox comic, Halo Infinite Memory Agent, Rubicon Protocol, Outcasts, and the 2022 Encyclopedia) Lord Susto 14:43, September 27, 2022 (EDT)

Looks like Riley's just seen to those specified updates for you. However, I definitely think this policy needs a fairly big update, especially with the recent introduction Template:Status, and of "Apocrypha" as a label for content that's not-really-canon-but-sort-of-is, like marketing material and whatnot. I feel like a lot of things currently on the "Canon" list, for instance ilovebees and Memory Agent, should probably exist under that banner.

– Dab1001 (talk • contributions) 21:06, September 27, 2022 (EDT)