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The crashed vehicle.

• I think MC crashed in a Mongoose.-- 4.89.247.209 22:07, 5 December 2006

The crashed and destroyed vehicle behind him is obviously a Warthog. For one the darn thing has a winch on the front, which when compared to the actual Mongoose they show later is not there. Also the size comparisons. --Vlad3163 23:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I have to disagree. If you pause it or observe very closely before the plasma mortar hits the Master Chief, you get a good side view of the "Warthog." If you look closely, it is indeed a Mongoose. Daggra-113 18:11, 5 December 2006 (EST)

I'm pretty sure its a Hog, the body style of the first shot is to big and bulky to be the ATV, and has bigger tires. The second shot is the ATV as we know it. Either he did not turn around, and there are two vehicles or DigitalDomains screwed up and used two separate models for the same vehicle. Also, the front right tire of the Warthog is gone, the front right tire of the Mongoose is still there. The undercarriages are completely different. Its a Hog trust me. --Vlad3163 23:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

actually, look around for some of the screenshots of the ad. you can see the rim of the mongoose sticking out from one of the shots, and the wheels are different to that of a warthog.

• It's Both - The one behind him, that you see in the pre-commercial screenshot when he's reaching for his AR, is a Warthog. The one in front of him, that you see during the side view of him and the shield bubble thingy, is a Mongoose. 24.251.125.185 06:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Who are The Kids

• I'm fairly certain that the kids are Spartans, or at the very least the boy is the Master Chief. The children are more or less a memory which he sees while he is unconscious, as he looks back towards the girl he sees his helmet, but still in the dream, then he is knocked back into consciousness by the explosion behind his helmet. All of the voices are most likely faded due to the lingering effects of disorientation, and is only reoriented when he sees his weapon laying on the ground.--Vlad3163 23:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

• The kid next to Master Chief isn't Kelly because if you read the books carefully you'll notice that she didn't know John before they reached the Spartan boot camp. I think it's just some girl that John knew before he was taken away. 121.55.222.240 12:08, 8 December 2006

• It is assumed that the two children in the beginning are Spartans, John and another female Spartan II (possibly Kelly) . This is backed up:

A) It is reveled in the clip that it is Master Chief having the flashback.

B) It would have to be after the abduction as the children are looking at non-Earth sky but a planet's sky i.e. (Reach). It couldn't be before the abduction as John was raised on a Gas planet with no atmosphere. As shown by the fact that Eridanus II is orange gas giant, a colony without a breathable atmosphere the colony may consist of floating domed cities or other such technology -- Eridanus II

C) Both children appear to be wearing military type black jump suits.

• Not Spartans The kids seen at the beginning of the ad aren't John or Kelly. KP has confirmed that the trailer took place on Earth and John and the Spartans never went to Earth when they where that young:

Konrad - Frankie, WHERE does the trailer take place?

KP - The trailer takes place on earth.

• Could KP be talking about the second part of the commercial. Mabye he's having a flashback/Dream about reach on earth. That would still make It happen on earth. The battle is what I think KP was talking about when he said earth.

• Good Point. There was a good discussion about the night sky and how the starts aren't like anything that could be seen from Earth. -- Esemono 10:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
• The Book Fall of Reach emphasize that John didn't recgonize any boys or girl in his school, so obviously the girl is no Spartan, the boy may be John, though.

--Master Chief Petty Officer 05:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

• well, regardless of who they are HBO has said that Frankie has confirmed that they were played by real kids. interesting, huh?

• Thier voice was done by real kids is what you ment. It is still CG.-- User:Van 246 17:06, 13 December 2006

• No, the two children are real actors. The kids, the clumps of grass around them, were real. The CGI doesn’t begin until you see the Chief’s helmet for the first time. See Bungie Weekly Update Posted by Frankie at 12/8/2006 3:47 PM PST

• It could also be possible that the girl represents Cortana

Not really... after all, Cortana was made from a flash clone of Dr. Halsey, who is about thirty years older than MC. Unless you're agreeing that the entire trailer takes place on earth, instead of just the latter part, which is more commonly believed and makes more sense. 24.251.125.185 01:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

• john would never spend the night looking at the stars he just wasent that kind of boy

Really? In the books, we're told that he was the kind of boy who would like to just sit on a swing and think; not having access to a swing, wouldn't he go for the next best thing: the stars?

and his hair wasent like the boy and the boy did not have freckles (but john did)--Swearingmonk 17:07, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Master Cheifs Face

• Master Chiefs Helmet originally lies on the ground and when he goes to pick it up, you can see an outline of his exposed head. -- 67.173.255.87 02:23, 6 December 2006

• i sharpened the image in photoshop and its not his face but a reflection of his helmet in the helmet --Fatman ninja 22:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

What did Cortana say?

• There is argument over what Cortana meant when she said "Chief, leave me." It is assumed that she was in his helmet and was telling him to keep going, that however, would contradict Bunige's statement saying that she is in the clutches of the Gravemind, it is possible she was rescued.

• save meI can't make out the, "leave me" part, sounds more like "save me" -- Esemono 09:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• I interpreted Cortana's voice as being in the Cheif's head, maybe he's feeling remorsfeul for letting her stay, and she's "haunting his dreams" in a way. Cosmis 17:52, 6 December 2006
• believe me!A lot of people at the B.net forums think she's saying "Chief, believe me!"
• leave me!Some people from the HBO forums played High Charity recently, and heard a very distinct, clear version of "Chief, leave me!" with exactly the same inflection and all that as in the trailer. It's a memory from the events of Halo 2. 24.251.125.185 06:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Shield "Grenade"

Bungie said that although the shield grenade looks like a grenade, it's not. It's something else & I think that someone should clarify this and change it on the page. - Sargent HarryButtkiss 03:14, 11 December 2006

notice that he dident hold the assault rifle (non duel wieldable) he held the pistol this might mean that its acually a duel wielded weapon of sorts--Swearingmonk 17:10, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Elite Allies

Ew... Such gross misrepresentations of the truth.

Cortana was made from Dr. Halsey's flash cloned brain. My personal guess, was that was Linda and John, talking on Reach. But that isn't the important part of it. You have to disect the video to get an understanding for what is really going on.

1) Sergeant Avery Johnson is back on Earth. He is the one that asks if the Chief has made radio contact, before the marine says he was lost. It is distinctly said "Negative, Sarge. I think we lost him." THIS means something else. The Sergeant has made him way back from Delta Halo Installation 05, along with possibly the Arbiter. How else would he have been able to make the slipspace jump.

2) This leads me to believe that the humans and Elite's are IN FACT allies. When the Master Chief jumps from the edge of the cliff and down onto the enemies, they are brutes and nothing else. Perhaps this means that the jackals and drones are also Defacto as well. I have no idea, but I do know that he wasn't attacking Elite's.

I dont know all that stuff i havent read the books and anyways i was just speculating. --EliteDeath 17:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Halo 3 has become quite confusing. --RimFire 20:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Who said that the Sergeant on the radio is THE sarge? it didn't sound like him, anyway if it is the Sarge and the elites and humans are teamed up then why is there a battle? The MC and the hunters teamed up would kill every last brute. Noone argue with that cuz if you don't belive me your wrong. --Omrifere 23:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I thought the Elites teamed up with the humans at the end of Halo 2, when they find out the Halos and what they were fighting for was wrong. And in the last level the Arbiter is fighting alongside Johnson. I don't see why they would still be fighintg if they're fighting for the same thing. Salty 02:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

in my opinion SARGE did sound like Johnson, gruff, yes, tired yes, but still sarge, i agree with CaptainAdamGraves. User:Starliner

Ok sorry about that but I didn't really hear the sarge on the radio that well, There were to many voices and to little time between them. Anyway Sarge is important to the Halo story. If he's back on earth then something big is going to happen. (And I mean more than the Covenant invasion and the Forerunner structure in the earth's crust.) Omrifere

• In my opinion, it would be almost a fact that one of the kids is John. Because it did looked like a flashback. And the other kid might as well be Sam. Sam was the MC best friend. But, the the place they seem to be in, might not be earth. Now that they apparently never went to earth during their training. They stayed at Reach. And also, they seem to be relaxing in the grass in the night. They did not have any free time when they were in the spartan training program. This could also mean that this might be a flashback before the spartan program.
  • Now about the jackals and drones. They do not appear in the video, but this doesn't prove that they will not appear as allies of the brutes. The same thing goes for the sarge. The voice on the COMM might be his. But. Only the elites in the second Instalation knew what Halo was supposed to do and allied with the sarge. This doesn't mean all of the elites around the galaxy or in earth know about this, or think the same way. There might as well be elites in the side of the humans and others by themselves.
• But that is only MY opinion.--Radzon 04:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I believe it was maria in the trailer because she had short black hair.--Unggoy 13:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)