Forum:Destiny and Halo 4 parallels

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In the trickle of information, images and footage we've received about Destiny since the game's announcement, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed some similarities between Bingie's new game and the Chief's latest outing.

For example: Both games and their promotional materials feature mysterious floating spheres in the forms of the Traveler and the Didact's Combat Cryptum. Both games feature enemies disintegrating when they die.

What's most interesting to me comes in the form of three statements. One comes from Bungie, when they said they had considered making Halo 4 prior to starting Reach. They explored concepts and though the game never made it past pre-production, there's little doubt that they had concepts for both story and gameplay. This ties into the other two statements, one where someone from 343 said they were using things left by Bungie as a starting point for many of their ideas, the other being Bungie's recurring statement of bringing back ideas that didn't make it into previous games. Personally, I feel that 343 and Bungie have both been using ideas that didn't make it into Bungie's final Halo entry.--Soul reaper (talk) 05:31, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

I can't say I'm surprised. If Halo is "Marathon 2.0" (in regards to reusing tropes), then Destiny is certainly "Halo 2.0". Off the top of my head:

• MJOLNIR cyborg = Spartan = Guardian (especially Titans)
• Jirajo = Forerunner = Traveller (ancient race with links to humanity, not to mention the Cryptum design)
• Pfhor Empire = Covenant = alien adversaries (groups of aliens bent on enslaving/erradicating humanity)
• Driniol = Hunter/Sharquoi = Cabal (not to mention all three settings have "Hunters" in them, even if their nature varies)
• Pfhor = Elite = Fallen (close-combat fetish, separated into houses/keeps)
• Fl'ickta = Flood = Hive (space zombies)
• .44 Magnum = H1 pistol (as in, a pistol that's actually useful) = Duke Mk. 44
• Fusion pistol = Plasma pistol = Conduit F3
• SPNKR rocket launcher = SPNKR rocket launcher = Gjallarhorn

And keep in mind, that's just the stuff that all three settings have in common. If we're looking for mere pairs, the similarities go up much more (Sparrows = Ghosts for instance, or Charlemagne = Traxus IV). This isn't inherantly bad, but I've become increasingly "meh" about Destiny over the last few months. :(--Hawki (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

First of all, nothing in Destiny disintegrates.

...Oh yeah! Rixis! Forgot about him.

Still, a rather isolated incident.

As for the traveler, I'd say that it's completely different from Forerunners or Jjarro. As opposed to some mysteriously missing advanced race, it's a single mysterious sphere that is definitely affecting events. I think it's very much different from Bungie's previous precursors.

On the Cyborg and John, I don't see any big similarity between them and the Guardians other than Guardians being PCs. The Cyborg and Master Chief are seemingly the only ones who can make a difference in their respective stories, but Guardians are regular soldiers.

As for the "Alien Adversaries".... you've gotta be fucking joking, right? That's not exactly exclusive to Bungie, it's a very common trope, and once again Destiny seems to be going in a notably different direction with them than in Halo or Marathon.

As for heavy enemies.... of course there's heavy enemies! Why wouldn't there be! And we haven't even seen any gameplay of them so they might not even play like that!

Ok, a bit of a similarity with the Fallen and Hive, notably more with the Hive. I still expect the Fallen to have a very different society than the Sangheili. Off topic, but did you even play Marathon? The Pfhor are nothing like the Elites.

On weapons....

Pistol: Useful pistols? How is that unique? Lots of games have powerful pistols. Most games have those.

Conduit: So.... a weapon that might be a sidearm and might be energy based and might be able to charge? With no evidence for anything except the sidearm one? .... *eye twitches*

Rockets: *mouth begins to foam* OH MY GOD THEY'RE ROCKET LAUNCHERS THOSE ARE IN EVERY FUCKING GAME ARE YOU KIDDING ME

Always use the DMR. This is craZboy557, signing off. 06:56, 21 July 2013 (EDT)