Talk:Jun-A266

Armor

MK V Scout? MK IV Scout?--Lekgolo 04:36, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

It's Mk. IV

Just like the rest of the group, the Snipe is wearing Mk. IV armor varients. It looks like the helmet might be an early version of the Scout helmet we see in Halo 3.

No, he isn't - its a modified version of the Mark V. Take a look at the chestplate and helmet closely - the only difference in the latter is in the visor, with black trim. As for what variant it is, I would agree that its a scout version; either that, or Mark V recon. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek 05:15, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Its defintely Mark V. One solid proof of this: shield emitters. The armor they are wearing contains shield emitters, visible throughout the trailer, and thus HAS to be the Mark V, as the Mark IV was NOT equipped with shielding. Different varations of the Mark V yes, but not the Mark IV. Spartan 501 06:00, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

No, it's got to be Mk. IV. Look at the cover to Halo: The Cole Protocol. Same armor. Plus, those "shield emitters", they don't light up like they normally, so I have to think they were something else. Hell, the Spartan on the cover of the Cole Protocol looked like his/her armor had shield emitters. The armor looks too much like Mk. IV armor to be anything else.

To unsigned person. Wrong.--Lekgolo 04:34, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Me? I'm not seeing Scout in the body piece OR the arm pieces, and ocnsidering hte scout is the main body piece I use, I think I know it quite well (Not saying I'm right, just my opinion). As for the Helmet? I say cross between scout and Recon. ~Enlightment~ 12:20, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

To Hunter Zealot/Lekgolo, maybe add a comment why you think its wrong, because your wrong comment with nothing else by it, means diddley squat to me, no offence.

My opinion on this: It's Mark IV armour, and as for the Scout association, I agree. I can see why some would think the helmet could be Recon due to the thin visor, but the sharp contours on the Halo 3 Recon helmet and other details just aren't there on this sniper's helmet, it looks a lot more like an early Halo 3 Scout helmet, a.k.a; a Mark IV Scout.

Why I think its Mark IV armour, well its clear by the design that its a variation of what the Lieutenant has. And from the Cole Protocol novel, we know this to be the true image of Mark IV, unlike Halo Wars' dull Mark VI design copy. But I've slagged that game off enough before to go on about it.

Anyway, as someone mentioned about shielding... if they do have shields, for me, it seems possible, that by 2552, the UNSC may have integrated shielding in to the existing Mark IV armour. As per the integration of the Mark VI technology in the Halo 3 multiplayer Mark V helmet, see its description if you haven't. So in the case that they do have shields, this would make more sense to me, rather than the assumption that it automatically has to be the Mark V armour.

Finally tieing up nicely with my last point, if these are Class II Spartan-IIs which I believe they are, then I think its ever more likely that they would just get upgrades to armour, with lower spec armour in the first place, than a newer Mark V or VI model suit. Because of the expense of these suits, they were prioritised in distribution, as seen with good ol' Master Chief. I don't fear much controversy about this though, when Reach comes out, all will be revealled I guess. Anyway, Merry Christmas to anyone reading this on the 25th! -TheLostJedi 18:46, 25 December 2009 (GMT)

Isn't It possible that it could be Linda? She is 1. A sniper 2. A lone wolf (I forget what book they said that it, but I clearly remember that) 3. Didn't she fight on Reach? --Heretic Havana

Its not Linda, she was in the space op at the time, and then evacuated with the Pillar of Autumn. Plus male voice once again. 112 16:47, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I forgot. I thought she was on the ground..... Too many SPARTAN names......-- Heretic Havana

it should be noted the resembelance of the helmet to the cqb armor variant - Robee 16:49, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

Are you refering to the dome? Because the visor bears greater resemblance to the Scout or Recon. -TheLostJedi 16:00, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Actually... I think I retract any previous comments about his helmet. Now that we know its Mark V armour, it makes sense for the helmet not to look too different from the models we've seen in Halo 3, and going by screenshots and concept art, his helmet looks very Recon to me. -TheLostJedi 15:28, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Ooo, scratch my last comments, you can confirm from IGN footage that its a Scout variant. I should have stuck with my gut feeling, I was right. -TheLostJedi 00:05, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I know this an old post but....Noble aetm are all Spartan-IIIs with the exception of Jorge. I personally find it likely that it is Mk V armor

Jun-266

Its a spartan III, from Game Informer: http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=291294&page=8

Forget Emile. How are you supposed to pronounce Jun? Einsteinium99 04:36, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

• More than likley pronounced Joo-n CyanDeadEye 19:29, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Pronounce it like June. >.>- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 19:36, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Morons, it's pronounced how you see it, Jun, not June or Joo-n. It's a common name in Korea, Japan, and China. But not here.RvBrocks1 18:48, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't not see a reason for us to called morons for trying to figure out how his name is pronounced. In the new ViDoc, Dr. Halsey pronounces it as June or something similair so that knocks out the Korean version. I'd imagine we have to be calling him He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named if it wasn't for Bungie and the new video.--ASEC 04:40, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Minor Ghillie additions.

I can't really tell but doesn't Jun's armor around the neck have some grassy like addition to it similar to a ghillie suit? From the GI issue I wasn't too sure if it was actually part of his armor or just artisitic additions.CyanDeadEye 19:32, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's just a concept art. I highly doubt it will be a part of his armor in the game. -- Ultra Force 16:57, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

Military Branch

Since he is a Warrant Officer doesnt that mean he is part of the Marine Corp? SILENT ONE 17:33, 31 January, 2010 (UTC)

Nobody knows. //--TehK (tok) 00:38, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know for certain, but don't all branches of military have WO's?

I dont think so, I think its only for the Army and Marines.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 07:26, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

so i guess all SPARTANS arent all navy then like i thought they were. SILENT ONE 20:17, 11 February, 2010 (UTC)

Check out this page. It says they're UNSC Army. Actually while you're there, read the weapons pages too. They seem to imply the same thing.--Rusty- 03:36, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Noble Three

Reference? I don't think I've heard it on the Spike TV Trailer. PX173 11:41, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

GameInformer link under Source section.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 14:41, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Not a Sniper... a Marksman

Technically snipers do not operate in fire teams like Noble. They tend to operate in solo missions or with teams of other snipers. Marksmen function to provide long range cover for the members of their team. I'm sure the info released about Jun-A266 states he's a sniper and the ghillie suit seems to suggest the camouflage expertise that most snipers must be trained in but if he's functioning with a fire team he's technically a marksman... just thought I'd suggest changing the sniper references

AsanoHa 16:29, February 13, 2010 (UTC)

name/meaning?

Okay, so I just wanted to confirm for myself if Jun is like asian or not. Cause I looked up his name and Jun is an asian name. So i'm going to assume that he's asian so I wanted to see other people's feedback. And his name means truthful.

So. My name is a Jewish name. I'm not Jewish. My surname is based on the Nordic patronymic method. I'm not Nordic. Don't simply assume the race of someone by their name. I know an Asian girl called "Sophie" and there are probably many black people called "Frank". Just wait until the game comes out.-- Forerunner 10:37, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, his accent sounded pretty asian in the reveal trailer. Okay, let's all wait for someone to say "Just cause he has an asian accent doesn't mean he's asian! Quit assuming shit!" Honestly, what kind of white guy goes around with an exclusively Japanese name; Jun.

If you're an international resident and have been going around the world, you would be surprised at the amount of contradictions of what you know right now...- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 21:55, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Bungie designed Jun to be a non-asian dude raised in East Asia. That explains his accent and name.

i got the impression he was hispanic due to the accent.-ghost mactavish

nah, he's a slant eye. look at the new profile picture of him.

Yes, and Taylor Lautner is also an Asian, because he has the same kind of eyes. You're a pretty smart guy =D . --NuparuMahnika 10:04, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

This act of unsigning is making me wonder whose comments are whose. I just thought of pionting this out right now but considering Jun is pronouced June by Halsey and not being from Earth, don't you guys think Jun has a slight East-European accent? He sounds like he has a French accent to me in the new Bungie Vidoc video. What do you guys think?--ASEC 04:46, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure "slant eye" is racist. Please be courteous on Halopedia. --Felix-119 18:13, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Article Quote

The article's quote is currently from Jun's report, but I propose changing it to "You picked one hell of a day to join up". While I know that the current quote gives more information about Jun himself, but that information is easily represented in the article. - Si3rra-o51 File:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 19:17, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

That doesn't have anything to do with his character or personal traits, which is what article quotes are mainly for. It's just a random quote from him and would look out of place there. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 23:46, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

While I think that some other article quotes are very loosely tied to their article, you're right, the quote is too vague, my bad. - Si3rra-o51 File:Autoturrethud.svg|18px]] 17:27, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

profile image

where did that image of Jun without is helmet came from ? —This unsigned comment was made by Fipas (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

See this (which was on the latest Bungie Weekly Update) if you want proof. --SPARTAN-125 Cally99117

thanks, haven't read this week's update and was wondering where did it came from--Fipas 16:10, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I am completely and utterly disappointed by Jun's appearance. --Turn out the Lights, 20:34, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone add

that Jun is the tallest Spartan III in Noble Team, making it ironic that he's the stealth/sniper specialist.

Also, he's just barely one inch taller than Carter

He can't be the tallest,Jorge is 7.33 ft. so it's not really possible.

He said Spartan III not II, Jorge Is the tallest Spartan II on Noble Tearm, Jun Is probably The tallest Spartan III, also, all of you need to sign your posts! 99.51.93.24 20:33, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Jorge is also the most skilled Spartan-II on Noble team, and the biggest Spartan-II on Noble Team, and the fastest Spartan-II on Noble Team, and the smartests Spartan-II on Noble Team and the prettiest Spartan-II on Noble Team (Sarcasm rules) --Chris-the-killer 13:01, 6 January 2011 (EST)

Trivia

Like Kat-B320, based on his voice, Jun may be of Russian or Scandinavian descent; this is most likely due to the fact that they share the same home planet.

Birthdate & Picture

Could someone who can edit add his age (28) beside his birthdate like the rest of Noble Team? Oh and for Jorge too (41). Also could someone add his super badass picture from wherever the ones that Carter, Kat, and Jorge have came from, for Emile too, thanks :)

P.S. Where did they come from? Alex T Snow 06:30, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Urgh - I keep removing those! I've seen the age tag be used, but generate nothing. Besides, the idea of calculating how old they would be *somewhere* in 2552 doesn't really work.-- Forerunner 06:50, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yes we can, the game starts after February and certainly won't go until February 2553, so in his only appearance in the universe he's 28. I would agree with you on characters like Johnson where he is seen throughout the timeline, but this is within one year, so it makes more sense, to me at least... Alex T Snow 07:41, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

We don't have a specific date in the Halo universe to call the present, and so those alive after Halo 3 or whose deaths are simply never reported would be alive in the 27th centuy be default. We can't use the past as the present - that's retarded; hell, the game's storyline is just an ONI restoration, anyway, according to the supply crate.-- Forerunner 12:46, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Highlands

About the new trivia added. Technically, multiplayer isn't canon, so that's may or may not be where the SPARTANs crashed. Sorry, I just had to say that, as if that WAS where they crashed, that would totally destroy my mental picture of that part of First Strike. Vegerot (talk) 11:14, 29 May 2011 (EDT)!

In 3 everything that is there by default is canon. For Reach it's a mixture of that and what cannot be deleted. If the Prlican can't be deleted, then it's part of canon - Bungie said a while ago that multiplayer maps are canon.-- Forerunner 11:22, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

They said that the locations were canon, but not necessarily the things IN there. Like the teleporters on Highlands, etc. Vegerot (talk) 11:37, 29 May 2011 (EDT)!

Location includes what's inside. Otherwise you're pretty much saying that only Blood Gulch's setting (Installation 04) is canon, not the buildings. He only exception are things added for gameplay reasons such as teleporters on Earth-based levels. Just think it this way - if it serves no gameplay purpose - is it just there to complement the scenery? And what information do we have that says that this crash-site is non-canon, or indeed piloted by Jun?-- Forerunner 12:37, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Because the SPARTANs abandoned ship some couple kilometers up. And the Pelican exploded on the top of a snow-capped mountain. Vegerot (talk) 13:35, 29 May 2011 (EDT)!

Defiant to the End clearly states that the Pelican is Red Team's: Bravo 001. The bodies aren't present in the map itself; they were just added for dramatic effect in the video. The Spartans would have landed several kilometers from the Pelican's crash site, just like in the book. In First Strike, the part about Bravo 001 crashing into a field comprises only one sentence, whereas the map is a full-fledged environment. Crashing into a field instead of a mountain is a very simple retcon, especially considering that the Fall of Reach went from being a one-day massacre to an enormous series of campaigns that lasted over a month. --Courage never dies. 13:49, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Jun died in reach (with proof)

According to bungies podcast back in February 2010, His Last name is Lo. And now his name is along (The soldiers who lost their life in Reach) in Halo 3 ODST. See for your self: http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=122758784

That's just a coincidence. Officially the SPARTAN-III program doesn't exist and its members were never adopted by ONI. It just wouldn't make sense to list all SPARTAN-II and III casualties and just assume that, because no one knows their surnames, everything will be ok. If you find "Carter"; "Kat" (not Catherine!); "Emile" and "Jorge", please come back.-- Forerunner 07:12, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

Somebody ought to note that Jun is a very common first name in Japan. User:CommanderTony/Sig

Mass

What? Why does he weigh half of what Kat weighs? (or so it says in the sacred caves) 20:11, 30 January 2012 (EST)!

Homeworld

If Kat and Jun have the same homeworld, why are they in different companies?108.66.164.104 01:11, 22 January 2013 (EST)

Because Kat was born after Jun. She would have been one when Alpha Company was formed. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 01:42, 22 January 2013 (EST)

Survival

While lurking on Waypoint, I came across Sarah Palmer's armour's intriguing details. The details state that she was "hand-picked by former Spartan-III Jun A-266 to be one of the first candidates in the new Spartan IV program." I was going to add this to the article, but I am unsure whether this is a reliable source. Have we ever used an avatar item as a reference before? I feel I should ask, instead of just barging in. :P -TentacleTornado 12:20, 23 July 2013 (EDT)

Everything else in that description checks out canonically, so my guess would be that it's legitimate. Though since we don't know exactly when the SPARTAN-IV Program commenced (since Parangosky was planning to have Ackerson and Halsey heading the program, the planning would have been in place before Halsey's supposed death on Reach), it can't be certain that Jun survived. He may have picked Palmer before the Fall of Reach. It does prove however, that Jun had knowledge of the program, which should be stated in the article.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 12:41, 23 July 2013 (EDT)

Keep in mind that the description says "former Spartan-III Jun-A266". To me, this implies that Jun was recovered from Reach and discharged from active service. The remaining SPARTAN-IIIs were integrated into the S-IVs, so that may explain why he is referred to as a "former" SPARTAN-III. My guess is that Jun has gone from combat to the administration and training of the next generation of Spartans, just like Kurt. Sure, he might have picked Sarah before the Fall of Reach, but that begs the question, "Why let him pick candidates for the new program while he was in active service? Why not use Maria, Fhajad, or René?" Anyway, I'm very glad you posted that link, Tentacletornado; it reveals some pretty major information about both the S-IVs and Infinity's history. --Our vengeance is at hand. (Talk to me.) 13:18, 23 July 2013 (EDT)

We used an action figure as a source for the Prophet of Regret's name before it was supported by better sources, so I'm sure using an avatar item would be fine. — subtank 13:48, 23 July 2013 (EDT)

Thanks guys. I'll add it in now. I'll bear in mind that he may or may not have chosen her before the Fall of Reach. Adding to Braidenvl's points, our Palmer article states that she was introduced to the Spartan-IV program after a battle in October, yet Jun escorted Halsey to CASTLE in late August. I don't know whether this would mean that Jun picked her beforehand and the battle in October confirmed his choice for someone else, or whether Jun did actually pick her after the battle himself. Unless I'm just confusing myself and grasping straws. :P --TentacleTornado 14:35, 23 July 2013 (EDT)

I think the avatar's description is pretty much self-explanatory, if Jun chose Palmer while being a former Spartan-III, then he managed to escape Reach and is no more an active duty Spartan-III (Whether he's among the IVs, their trainer/recruiter/an admin guy, and so on remains unclear of course). Moreover Palmer was still an ODST in October, so my interpretation is that it's this mission which was the decisive one before she was chosen. I find it really unlikely that Jun would have been involved in the S-IV Program as early as before Reach... I think we all understand why 343 slipped this info in the avatar's description. Imrane-117 (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2013 (EDT)

Halsey survived Reach as seen in Halo 4. Jun likely would have made it with her. it is possible that they got stranded on another planet, keeping John-117 as the only known Spartan.-sallan

Rank

Pretty sure he is a "Spartan" now, rather than a warrant officer. He is referred to as such throughout New Blood, but I'm wondering if there is any other sources I am missing that may refer to him as warrant officer still. --NightHammer^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:55, 16 February 2016 (EST)

I don't know if administrative personnel also have the "Spartan" rank. Musa doesn't. Though Musa could still be part of the Navy, due to his ambiguous role. Truly, I don't know. Imrane-117 (talk) 08:18, 17 February 2016 (EST)

Musa himself is still pretty ambiguous as he is with the Spartan branch a lot but I think he is still technically Navy. Maybe we could wait for a Waypoint article on Jun and see what it says. --NightHammer^{(talk)(contribs)} 11:06, 17 February 2016 (EST)