Talk:Sarah Palmer

Palmer is Palmer?

Anybody else here think that Palmer may possibly be Palmer (Marine)? They're both redheaded female Marines. It could be possible that Palmer survived the events of Halo 2 and 3, then would become a Spartan-IV. Of course she would have somehow needed to survive Regret's ship's slipspace explosion. --ADinoSupremacist 02:35, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

, otherwise, its speculation.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 08:44, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

Person	Palmer Palace Hotel	Palmer Halo 4
Branch	Marine Corps	Navy
Rank	Corporal (junior non-commissioned officer)	Commander (senior officer)
Hair	Red	Copper brown w/highlights (originally black)
Physical characteristics	Tall and broad-shouldered	Average height and slender body

While its certainly possible that Corporal Palmer could have changed her hair color and transitioned in the Fleet from the Marines to the Navy, advancing from a Corporal to a Commander within five years is highly illogical. As well, the two ladies' appearances are incredibly dissimilar. Grizzlei ♥ ツ

It was just pure speculation on my part. --ADinoSupremacist 14:06, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

Voice Actress

I believe from Palmer's voice in the trailer that she is played by Jennifer Hale, who Mass Effect fans will know as the female voice of Commander Shepard.Fairfieldfencer FFF 07:33, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

I wouldn't be surprised. Jennifer Hale has a low, tough, and commanding voice, which would definitely be suitable for a Spartan. She's one of my favorite VO performers. --Courage never dies. 10:55, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

Huh. Why is Halo receiving people who are done with their stories? I mean, when Susan learned that she couldn't come back to Narnia, she enlisted into Corbulo Academy. Some of the Serenity crew joined the Helljumpers. Now, Shepard must have gotten bored after the Reaper War and enlisted into The Spartan Branch. Who else will be joinging us? Captain Price? Missing Mandible 13:18, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

Does seem rather unusual, almost. I kinda like it. But it is, in some ways, also kinda ironic too. Never thought Anna Popplewell would be in a Halo film or TV webseries. --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 13:21, 31 October 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330

But then again, I've liked it when a girl isn't afraid to fight for what she believes in. In other words (to quote Adam Baldwin as John Casey in Chuck), "She looks good with a gun". Totally off-topic, though. --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 13:25, 31 October 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330

On topic, definitely Jennifer Hale (so definitely Palmer) and they're likely using them because it works well for both parties--Halo gets an additional boost from using actors known from other media, and those voice actors get an additional boost from association to such a big topic. Off topic, the Captain price comment could help but remind me of this: [1] Spartan 501

Jennifer Hale, eh? Well, I associate her more with a certain other super soldier leading to a certain other crossover... Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 21:28, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

It's definitely her. So, she's a Commander again, and the main villain is voiced by Keith Szarabajka... Alex T Snow 07:29, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

We know that the Covenant ally themselves with the Prometheans at some point. Perhaps you could say the Didact assumes direct control over them. --Courage never dies. 10:05, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Here's to Shepard facing off against Harbinger! Here's to Samus facing off against Master Chief! This is really shaping into an Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny =) Missing Mandible 15:52, 3 November 2012 (EDT)

Regarded Cheif with contempt?

It dident sound much like contempt to me. It sounded more like a joke. Soldiers take friendly cracks at eachother all the time, I dont see any indication it was anything else. --24.222.228.134 00:30, 7 November 2012 (EST)

I agree, her smile and facial expression indicated she was simply surprised it was "the" Master Chief back from the dead and made a joke. Manwiththegun 01:25, 7 November 2012 (EST)

Don't forget about the cutscene where captain dumbass del rio tried to arrest the MC. Her body language there could be perfectly described as contempt. That was one of our big talking points during our midnight release co-op lan party. It could be that she sees the MC as a direct threat to her command.

Oh dear god, not this again. Her body language in the altercation between Captain Del Rio and John-117 is simply one of being uneasy. Does she obey the orders of her superior officer, a man that continues to make terrible decisions and does not have the respect and admiration of his crew? Or does she back the simple veteran soldier, who she seems to view as her contemporary, a reputably legendary man and personally knows the situation on the ground. She only supported her Captain with words because her experience as an officer tells her that he'll be canned the second they get back home. Sarah respects John enough to allow him, without question, to lead her Spartans and when necessary, conduct missions he finds vital to a successful mission outcome. Grizzlei ♥ ツ

Palmer's rank

Is it possible that Palmer was actually a Lieutenant Commander during the first tour of Requiem? I'm sure i remember that in the scene where Del Rio orders the arrest of Chief, he motions to Palmer and says Lieutenant, maybe short for Lieutenant Commander, (doubting the fact she was just a lieutenant in charge of a full spartan division, and managed to get promoted up to commander in 6 months). This could also show why there is no apparent XO during the second tour of Requiem as she, after being promoted to Commander, is legible to fulfill that role of XO. Also, in the Limited edition of H4, the Infinity briefing packets and such, which are dated during the time of the second tour, she signs documents as Spartan Sarah Palmer, Infinity Commander. If she was just a commander - not of the Infinity's naval crew - wouldn't it just be signed Spartan Sarah Palmer, Commander? And before this may be mentioned - I do acknowlegde the fact that the Spartans are now an individual Branch, but maybe as they are assigned to Infinity, she could still serve as XO or at least acting XO. Thoughts? Edit: Went through the missions again and found the quote - end of Reclaimer Del Rio Looks at Palmer and says "Lieutenant! Arrest that man!" --Freddi bobbins 16:48, 19 November 2012 (EST)

Yeah, I noticed this too, she is a commander, so either it was an error or Del Rio was looking past her and talking to an actual lieutenant. File:Colonel Grade One.pngCol. Snipes450File:Colonel Grade One.png 15:45, 20 November 2012 (EST)

The short form of Lieutenant Commander is Commander, Mass Effect is a good example of this; so Snipes450 is correct. Alex T Snow 23:00, 20 November 2012 (EST)

You sure? At least twice, I've heard of Lieutenant Commanders being called just Lieutenant. She may have been promoted to tie in with Lasky's promotion to Captain. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 23:09, 20 November 2012 (EST)

For the US Navy, when shortening a rank the higher ranking part is used, Commonwealth Navy ranks are never shortened.See bottom of this page. UNSC ranks are based off American ones, right? Alex T Snow 06:53, 21 November 2012 (EST)

Maybe Del Rio flubbed and meant to say "commander" for "lieutenant commander". It wouldn't be the first military-questionable action of his. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 18:02, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Helmet

Any idea why our favorite Commander never wears a helmet? Seriously, with all the advancements in tech she could just clip it to her waist or something. 1-1 Marines

She has helmetophobia. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 18:05, 13 February 2013 (EST)

She has it on in our latest episode. I guess you know that by now though. This is craZboy557, signing off. 18:56, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Palmer rank as a ODST

First, 343 says that Palmer was a Lieutenant, but in Halo: Initiation shows that she was, for October 2552, a Lance Corporal. Which version is canon? And in this image, Palmer says she IS a Lance Corporal.
Lance Corporal Palmer? --They're coming. They're hungry. (talk) 16:22, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

Yeah I've noticed that too... But that's kind of weird, I don't see a Lance Corporal in 2552 becoming a Commander so quickly... If she was a Lieutenant in the Marine Corps, I guess she could jump to the rank of Commander at some point in the Navy... If the Spartan branch has Navy ranks. Imrane-117 (talk) 16:54, 21 July 2013 (EDT)

Some positions in the military come with a rank, for example if a person of any given rank was assigned to be in charge of certain base or something, that position could come with the rank of Colonel no matter who gets it, thus a promotion that may be more than usual. I think it's less that she got promoted really fast, and more likely the head of the Spartans must be a Commander, thus she automatically got that rank when she got assigned that job. Alex T Snow (talk) 16:47, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

She's been transitioned out of the Marines into a separate branch made specifically for Spartans, correct? It's not Army, Navy (Marines inclusive) or Air Force. It's an all new branch. So her Spartan rank as 'commander' would not be the equivalent of a Navy Commander, correct? Just a rank-like indication that she's in charge of other Spartans. As far as I can see, no Spartan-IVs hold a rank at all, so 'Commander' Palmer would be their leader on Infinity at least, being the only one with an identifiable rank. - ScaleMaster117 (talk) 17:05, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

I was under the assumption that the Spartan branch used Navy ranks mostly from the fact that SPARTAN-IV Peters is a Chief Petty Officer.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 19:33, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

That's what I thought too, but are we actually sure he's a Spartan-IV? Imrane-117 (talk) 21:56, 22 July 2013 (EDT)