Halopedia:Requests for adminship/CommanderTony

Halopedia > Requests for adminship > Requests for adminship/CommanderTony

Request for adminship: CommanderTony Submitted: September 10, 2007, by Phil.e. Closed: January 5, 2008, by Manticore Result: Passed

CommanderTony

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Nomination

I, Phil.e., nominate CommanderTony for adminship of Halopedia.
Nominee, please accept or defer the above nomination below this line.

I, CommanderTony, gladly accept this nomination for administratorship.

Support (30/4 sysop)

1. Strong Support as nominator. Phil.e. ^{[Talk to me]} 01:16, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
2. Weak Support - Somewhat premature, in my opinion, as we just passed an administrator a week or less ago, and I'd prefer to wait until post-Halo 3 launch before having another administrator on-hand to help govern the influx of new users for H3 and HW. However, in the past, CommanderTony has shown exceptional knowledge of UNSC information and article-creation, and is a very lively community member. =] Good luck! Cheers, RelentlessRecusant 'o the Halopedia Team ^TALK • _MESSAGE 01:19, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
   • Personally, I would think we'd want the infrastructure to support the spurt, not the spurt to support the new infrastructure.... --forgottenlord 01:24, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
3. Strong Support I saw his RFA was open, and decided to sign in. :D Tony all the way! School may be taking a big chunk of his life, but he's a reliable person. --Caboose File:Caboose.jpg|35 px]] ^{Orange Juice and Cookies} 02:11, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
4. Weak Support per above. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 02:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
5. Weak Support On the IRC and edits constantly, recently became an op, but he could care a bit more for the community. -- CR 02:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
6. Support he is a very good user.-Thegoodone File:SSgt Avery Johnson, UNSC Marine Corps.JPG|20px]] "Messages go here" What I've Done 03:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
7. Very Weak Support- Most of his goals can be done without admin powers, we have a desent ammount of admins as it is, and I'm not entirely sure how well he can do, but then agin I've never worked with him much. Still he has my vore--File:GRAW.png|20px]]MCPO Spartan 1138 04:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
8. somewhat weak support I think he is good in making new articles. I think he is helpful too. although I admit that I never really work with him that much. --Spartan-781 File:Seaman.png|25px]] ^Comm_CSV 10:14, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
9. support it better too much that not enoughtÇЋЇŒʢ ʕЛΆΝќUoH/A Company|Aegis Company ]] File:Marines HALO wars.jpg|40px]]^{βĻά βĻά βĻά}_{ɰЊάł Ḷ ḍõИШ} 14:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
10. Support Really he is a good man and he helps to much in halopedia. Clavix2 File:Halo2emblemClavix.jpg|30px]] ^{SPAM COME HERE NEVER DO THIS} 21:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
11. Somewhat Support While I haven't been agreeing with the admins lately, RR is somewhat right, however I'll vote cuz you can do some good.--Canis Lupus File:Wolf paw.jpg|20px]] ^{-The Pack- -Kill- -[[Join the Pack]]-} 11:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
12. Strong support You should hopefully improve the community. --Csm1013 09:19, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
    1. Vote removed. First edit of user. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 09:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
13. Strong Support --forgottenlord 06:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
14. Spartan Strong Support -- Leader in the UoH, goes on the IRC, and he is on halopedia almost every day. He is very good in the Community and yeah.... AJ 21:41, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
15. strong suport--has helped out alot Xbox 3600 00:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
16. SUPPORT What can I say? the guys got skillz at halopedia, its time for adminyship. --File:1_I_am_saving_up_for_this_-1.jpg|20px]] Guitarplayer001^{Contact MeSee where I have rocked out!} 06:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
17. Support Staff Sergeant Masterchief46517 File:ODSTbattlerifle.JPG|20px]] ^{com link} UoH/C Company|C Company]] 07:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
18. Godly Strong Support Yeah i just realised, i forgot to vote, but Tony is a fantastic editor whos attention to detail and Halo knowledge rivals mine :D. --Ajax 013 14:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
19. So much frickin' support you wouldn't even be able to imagine how much I am supporting this dude. CT's been a nice user around, even if he isn't as well known (or... at least I don't know him as well...) I think he's a cool guy to start off with. :) --Blemo 23 ^TALK • _{CONTRIBUTIONS} • _{SERVICE RECORD} 02:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
20. Support: Tony is a longstanding and trustworthy community member, we could definitely use his help. -- Manticore File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|20px|Manticore is a Halopedia administrator.]] ^{Talk | Contributions} 10:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
21. Weak Support -- I have changed my mind. I think CT should be an admin.--Petty Officer 1st Class File:Wallpaper_killzone_06_1024.jpg|30px]]SPARTAN-G023 ^{Comm Channel} _{Mission History} 16:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
22. Support - He deserves it for the amount of work he puts in - UoH/Command Staff|General]] simon rjh 18:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
23. Be nice and Let him Have it Why is he not a admin with all these votes yet?Sauronas Churchill 01:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

    Reread Halopedia:Requests for adminship. Çya, Møue 00:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

    Mind expressing a bit? Being nice to him doesn't mean he should be an admin. —This unsigned comment was made by Master Chief Petty Officer (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

24. Support -User:Mr.X. Good luck man :)
25. Support - So far as I can see, everyone voting against him is doing so simply because they have'nt heard of him, or because he's not on the IRC. Does an Admin need to be popular? As long as he's competent, I don't see why he shouldn't get the job! Honour Light Your Way - File:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] Kora ‘Morhek The Battle-Net My Conquests. 22:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
26. Support - Everybody makes mistakes. I've screwed up things on this wiki lots of times; I'm probably the person who screws the most. CommanderTony has proved to me that he can be a good administrator by the way he socialises, his Contributions and his EditCount. File:BR55HB SR Battle Rifle.jpg|26px]]EmosFile:Legendary.jpg|20px]] 09:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
27. Support - Okay, so I don't know the guy. I've only just read about his workings on the 'pedia, and that's about all the contact I've had with him. But his ideas seem good. I like his projects. If he can get these things done, I think he definitely deserves to be an Admin. But if he doesn't do what he said he would do when he does become an Admin, then I say his Administrator status should be removed. If his project is not underway within a month or two of him becoming Administrator, then in my eyes he has failed to fulfill his promise. So go for it, CommanderTony. I'll support you, as long as you do what you say you'll do. --Jaeryd 18:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
28. Sure, Weak Support. Guesty-Persony-Thingy 01:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
29. I second what Jaeryd said; If he makes good on his promises, i'll support him all the way. Support k4karnage File:Sm_h3_Assault_Rifle.gif|50px]] Pick-Up Line History 20:44, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
30. Support. Tesfan 03:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
31. Support. I know CT he's for the most part fair and he's nerdy. I mean look at the halo 3 contest, how many edits did the person in sacond have compared to CT. User:FistofthEmperor
32. Support After reviewing the reasons for and against him, I've decided to vote For making CT an admin. Çya, Møue 06:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Neutral (4/0 sysop)

1. Until such a time as more information has been given --forgottenlord 01:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
2. Canis Lupus File:Wolf paw.jpg|20px]] ^{-The Pack- -Kill- -[[Join the Pack]]-} 02:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
3. Per above--ChurchReborn 03:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
4. Almost a weak support, but not quite... --NOTASTAFF GPT_(talk)^(eating) 04:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
5. Note! my vote may be subject to change -- The State^{(Our Decrees and Law)(The State Alchemists we've enlisted)}File:ROY!.jpg|25px]] 12:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
6. I think that he is a good person but I think he has that adminship thing. I think next time it opens up I think he would be better suited. I don't want to vote against him cause he is nice but I don't think hes ready for adminship. sorry CT, but I don't think your quite ready. Spartan-010:Stryker ^{My Comm} _{My Battles} File:LTBar.png|15px]] 22:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
   1. "Next time it opens up"? Next time what opens up? WTF? Guesty-Persony-Thingy 01:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
7. Like GPT I am close to a weak support but not quite so I am staying neutral.--Master Sergeant G-23 ^{Comm Channel} _{Mission History}File:Master sergeant.jpg|20px]]UoH/B Company|B Company]] 21:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
8. I don't think we need that many administrator in Halopedia. Why don't we just stick to the current ones. If one of the admins becomes inactive, you maybe, just maybe get his/her position to keep the leader system intact. H-107 Subtle Tank 16:45 11.6(Nov).07 UTC
9. Very close to a weak support, but not quite. -- CR File: ArmyROTC.gif|15px]] 04:00, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Against (3/1 sysop)

1. Nah, Commander Tony may have been norminate, but I don't think he deserves it. maybe next time. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 09:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
   • Would you care to elaborate --forgottenlord 18:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
   1. Alright, first, I don't know lot about this guy, and I don't see him editing alot. Secondly, his proposal on Halopedia are just too simple, I can tell that every HP administrators could do such thing. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
2. Meh, I dont even know this guy, hes not an edit whore or constantly on the IRC like RR or the other admins.--User:JohnSpartan117 02:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
   • I myself find him on the IRC a lot. However, I've never seen you there. What do you go by?--Canis Lupus File:Wolf paw.jpg|20px]] ^{-The Pack- -Kill--[[Join the Pack]]-} 01:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
   • He's on nearly daily on IRC and I fail to see why that should be a factor in holding him back. As for edit whore, I fail to see why that should necessarily be a strike against him --forgottenlord 18:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
3. My experiences with this user's personality have been overwhelmingly positive, but my experiences working with him as a contributor have been frusterating.
   1. On numerous occasions I have been frusterated with an inability or unwillingness on the user's part to communicate and/or back up the sources behind the information he adds to the wiki. One example of this has been our recent edit war over the List of UNSC Military Units page, which contunues to this day for reasons I do not at all understand.
   2. Another problem I have had with him as a contributor is his organization of articles. The user creates a large number of articles but does not always sort them in the correct categories or update pages where they would be listed. An example of this would be the Characters page and categories, which has not been updated with recent information, but no one else can do it, because no one else knows where to find all the relavent articles which need adding.
   3. I have noticed occasionally that the user also removes valid, sourced information from articles without any apparent reason, but this is not a major issue.

My opinions on these matters, are, as always, not necessarily correct because I do not see everything, and I am very open to changing my opinion should it be necessary. --EDFile:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]] 18:39, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

ED, this is also my major concern. While CommanderTony has a very friendly and welcoming personality, often his organization of articles is somewhat frustrating to me as well. Regards, RelentlessRecusant 'o the Halopedia Team ^TALK • _MESSAGE 00:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

For backing up sources, I always give a clear indication of what the sources are and where I got them from. In the past, I have ignored sourcing, but now I see that it is vital to Halopedia's articles. As for organization, I have now started to categorize not only my own articles, but other members articles. File:CommanderTony Logo.PNG|25px]]UoH|General]] Tony^Talk 1/04/2008

Comments

I don't think CT can manage Halopedia as good as Manticore and the other admins. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 14:05, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

No offense dude, but Halopedia is fallinga apart.... just go on the IRC with me sometime....--Canis Lupus File:Wolf paw.jpg|20px]] ^{-The Pack- -Kill- -[[Join the Pack]]-} 20:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Everything CT's said can be done by any admins on Halopedia, ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 10:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Really? Then, why, my friend, isn't it done?--Canis Lupus File:Wolf paw.jpg|20px]] ^{-The Pack- -Kill- -[[Join the Pack]]-} 03:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe some admins are working on it! ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 05:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Really? Have they told you there working at it? Because I've asked them what they do with their adminship. Not one of the things Tony plans to do if elected came up. --Canis Lupus File:Wolf paw.jpg|20px]] ^{-The Pack- -Kill- -[[Join the Pack]]-} 01:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

With all due respect, I must say that Having articles cleanup, anti-vandalism and developing and editing articles are part of why we're here. We're here to discuss, share our knowledge, he just says he would have articles cleanup or improved (if that's what he means), it wouldn't be a good idea to have him as admin after all. And if I remember correctly, it sounds as though he wouldn't be checking Halopedia daily if he isn't promoted to admin. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 10:08, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

• • Well I have been on here everyday since the RfA started, and for longer than I thought. So what I said about not being on frequently and on almost everyday is gone now. File:UNSCoH_Dingo_without_letters.PNG|30px]]UoH/D Company|Colonel]] Tony^Talk 9/14/2007

• • Jolly W. Roberts

"Because I've asked them what they do with their adminship. Not one of the things Tony plans to do if elected came up."

— Rawr

Well how should I know what they do. And if I am elected, i'll gladly do as i'm told and needed to do by the "Senior" admins.File:UNSCoH_Dingo_without_letters.PNG|30px]]UoH/D Company|Colonel]] Tony^Talk 9/14/2007

That's doesn't means I hated you, CT, I just think you might want to improve Halopedia by other means, like setting up policies. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 13:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

on the lines of halopedia falling to shit i have to agree 110%, as a fairly competent editor of wikipedia(you can find a link to my profile on my user page) i stumbled across to here looking @ armor permutations and realized how shitty the article is and have taken it upon my self to patrol the page and keep it in fairly decent condition (CT did come in and helped fix the article up A LOT and was able to convert it into what i see as a true wiki article and for that im thankful but thats not the point of my rant), i have done some looking through of some pages on Halopedia and have found some articles that have absolutely no need to have its own article, and when i confront a admin about this i am told that 'everything deserves its own page' and it makes me really wonder why we need pages like this when it can as easily be merged into the bottom of the article about the vehicle its self (possibly in a section called 'known Elephant vehicles in existence' or something along the lines of that), this place is clearly falling apart from not only the outside in (every anon editor popping in and adding personal opinion, unverified claims or undoing stuff that clearly has a purpose) and the inside out (admins who refuse to do stuff that makes perfectly common sense such as merge an article that has one sentence (and before anyone attempts to rebuttals at this, no i am not suggesting in this that every single metal/award in matchmaking be merged into one article, as they are all important in there own way, you could even add on to the articles themselves(of metals) and explain good strategy to easily obtain them, possible references to where they came from, or who has mentioned them in RvB or where ever) in it that imho prob would not even last 35 seconds on wikipedia after it were to be brought to an admins attention) now i know that there is not much that we can do about anon editors (besides protect articles) because this is a wiki and basically the founding principle is that ANYONE can edit it, but i am telling you all now that if something is not done about the rampant anon editors, the unused pages, and policies that should be there, then this site is going to only get worse... personally i have some major ideas that i think that if implemented would greatly improve the way things work around here but i know that either i will never be taken seriously as to most of you i am prob viewed as a noob, that i am considered over zealous, or w/e other reason you want to make up as to the fact that my claims are not true(in your eyes)

but to put all that aside i think that halopedia has serious potential and could be an AMAZING wiki if certain things would be done ASAP, if anyone is interested in what i have to say then feel free to message me on my talk page and as soon as i can I'll start writing up what needs to be done, for now tho I've got to end this post so that i can start writing what needs to be done, peace.. Ancientanubis 16:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ancientanubis, perhaps you were not aware, but Halopedia is not Wikipedia. We have our own rules and guidelines here, which are all-inclusionist in dealing with the creation of articles. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia about the world, where only notable things deserve articles, but a cardinal rule on Halopedia is that everything related to Halo deserves an article. This idea is very true of many topic-specific wikis, because people who come here have the interest and we have the space to add everything imaginable on the subject.

Another important thing to consider is that Administrators are not the editors, owners, or god-kings of Halopedia. Content on articles is intended to be added and edited by users, and it is not possible for the admins to view and edit every single contribution, particularly when we have a much smaller community to maintain the wiki. It is just as much your job as a contributor as it is mine to see that speculation, poor grammar, and unverified nonsense (which I agree is annoying and demeaning to the wiki) are kept out. --EDFile:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]] 18:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

AncientAnubis has a point. That elephant type article seems totally irrelevant to me. But if you want articles that have ANYTHING TO DO WITH HALO, I might as well make a Plasma bolt article right now. And I should also make a new article for every color of plasma bolts. I should also make an article for the wheel on a Warthog, and perhaps an article about Fire, noting the way that carbon particles light up and make fire appear the way that it does. After all, fire is in Halo, is it not? Maybe while I'm at it I'll add lightning bolts, water, air, water particles in the air, clouds, and everything else that you can see in Halo. I'm probably annoying you by now, listing all of these stupid things that I can make an article out of. Which is my point. Why make a rule that "each thing should have its own article". Why not just make seperate sections for subjects that have to do with the same main subject in an article? Like that plasma bolts thing. Why not have it as a section in Plasma Weapons? Or whatever. And the colors of plasma bolts could be described in that same section, don't you think? And fire, water, and air, those could be left to Wikipedia, yes? Why not just use common sense and merge articles where necessary, making subjects that include that one sentence, instead of making an entirely new article for that one sentence? Things will get hectic if you keep that absurd rule. Most things should have their own article, yes, but not little bits of information that could be easily included in articles that not only relate to the information, but are about the SAME THING.
Consider that, eh? —Jaeryd 18:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

You seem to be agreeing with us and then disagreeing at the same time, so let me make the policy a little more clear (before I do write a policy about it, finally). Halopedia keeps articles of the same subject matter in the same article. Everything within the article should pretain to its title. Why isn't UNSC Euphrates included in the Frigate article, even though it is a small article? because though the Euphrates is a frigate, the fact that it is does not mean it should be included in the Frigate article. That article is about frigates in general, whereas the Euphrates articles covers the information known about the history of one individual frigate. It is the same way with the Elephant articles. "Elephant" details the specifications of the Elephant in general, whereas the other article details the information on one single elephant. Just beacause we know little about it does not mean it isn't important.

One of the reasons we do this is because there is a division within the people that view Halopedia. Some of them just play the Halo games and are only interested in the Elephant's purpose as a game vehicle, but others are interested in the expanded universe and like to know all the facts about everything canon. So, that is how we make article on subjects. --EDFile:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]] 00:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Questions

Nominee, if you accept the nomination, please answer the following questions. It is advised that voters check the nominee's responses before voting.

1. When did you join Halopedia? August 7th, 2006
2. What do you believe are your most valued contributions to Halopedia? Probably any and all edits for UNSC-related articles. I'm also currently ranked seventh in the list of editors by mainspace edits
3. What do you believe are your most valued technical contributions to Halopedia?I've made several edits to templates being used on articles, really just adding and edited up-to-date info. As well as created numerous awards and userboxes for the community.
4. What do you believe are your most valued contributions to the community? Helping out and starting the UoH's Dingo Company, as well as beginning to organize a Halo 3 Release Get together for Halopedia.
5. What is your expertise with programming languages, if any? I've got some minor experiences with HTML, though coming this fall, i'll have much more knowledge in HTML and other programming languages.
6. Do you administrate any other Wikia? If so, which? I am currently administrating Vektapedia, a wikia related to Killzone. Though my efforts are hindered by my PlayStation 2 being broke down.
7. If you are administrated, what changes do you propose? I will propose a few things. Such as a major cleanup project aiming to make the "Articles needing Cleanup" template go to waste. As well as a project aiming to delete all un-used pictures, userboxes, templates, and files.
8. To the best of your understanding, what does administratorship entail? I think that an administrator's job should be of an example for other Halopedians to follow.
9. To the best of your understanding, when will you be able to check Halopedia after you are administrated, in the event that you are? Almost everyday. Though school, football, and JROTC might sometimes interfere. But after October, i'm Halopedia Property once again.
10. What communities are you associated with online, Halo and otherwise? Well of course Halopedia, as well as Bungie.net, Halo Babies, MilitaryPhotos.net, and Charlie Oscar Delta.
11. What is your familiarity with the Halo universe? I've read and played everything Halo related besides the I Love Bees saga. Though I still try my best to edit those articles.
12. What is your familiarity with Wikia and Halopedia policies? I am pretty well familiar with both rule sets.
13. What is your relationship with the Halopedia community and current administration? For our community, I log onto our IRC Chatroom almost daily, as well as try to play in some online games with members. As for our administration, I enjoy talking to them, and would absolutely enjoy talking to them more if my RfA is accepted.
14. How may users contact you? If you look on my User Page, there is a wide amount of ways they can contact me, such as MySpace and Gmail. And if you have neither, i'll gladly read and reply any messages you leave on my User Talk Page.

Comments

Tony, you said if you became an admin you wanted to "make the "Articles needing Cleanup" template go to waste". Would you please explain exactly what you mean by this, and what other system you would have in its place. Thanks :) -- Manticore File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|20px|Manticore is a Halopedia administrator.]] ^{Talk | Contributions} 06:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Well what I mean is maybe have a contest to try to empty the "Category:Articles needing cleanup" page. I'm not saying we have to make it go to waste, because it probably never will. But i'm talking about having a major cleanup effort. Possibly this fall after hundreds of user post new articles and edits that aren't up to Halopedia's standards. Still confused?File:UNSCoH_Dingo_without_letters.PNG|30px]]UoH/D Company|Colonel]] Tony^Talk 9/14/2007

Ah I see. I was under the impression you wanted to delete the template. Just local terminology getting in the way :) -- Manticore File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|20px|Manticore is a Halopedia administrator.]] ^{Talk | Contributions} 16:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Seriously? 3 months and no results? Phil.e. ^{[Talk to me]} 19:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Lol yeah -- I was just talking to CommanderTony on the IRC on Tuesday evening about the lethargicness of this RfA's conclusion. :P The administration will be discussing a conclusion soon. Regards, RelentlessRecusant 'o the Halopedia Team ^TALK • _MESSAGE 09:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)