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S-312's superior

I was just wondering if someone could clarify something for me. It says that most likely S-B312's superior was Ackerson because Ackerson had requested Tom-B292 to head his special warfare team but that request was denied and Tom went with Lucy to train Gamma. So according to speculation Ackerson may have received S-312 instead. However, isn't this highly unlikely due to the fact that Ackerson thought the only Beta company survivors were Lucy and Tom because he had been kept in the dark about Spartan-IIIs being pulled from Alpha and Beta and given MJOLNIR? So he couldn't have been given S-312 because he didn't even know S-312 existed right? Or did he just think he had been previously assigned to a non-combat role like it said in the Mendez-Ambrose transmission? Oh and by the way one other question when it talks about "cat 2s" in the transcript does that mean Spartan-IIIs with Spartan-II genetic standards? --Ace of Spades

I agree. It does appear that Ackerson was unaware that Kurt was pulling a select few candidates out and shifting them to Mjolnir-wearing units.-- Rusty-112 Admin ^comm 23:40, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

This edit...

... needs to be revised on two counts. Firstly, the introduction as well as the opening quote needs to be reverted to its previous revision. The current quote would fit nicely in the "Death" section whereas the previous section fits nicely with his overall personality (or what's left of it to the player's imagination). The introduction should be the most condensed paragraph about the subject and its job should be to introduce the subject to readers. There is no need of an overview/summary of his biography/characterisation in the introduction.

Secondly, this image needs to be altered: Noble Six should be in his default configuration. We've already discussed about this years ago. On the subject of "what we've agreed years ago", it should be noted that we've also agreed that his birth date provided in GameInformer is likely to be an error made by the editor.

Oh, congrats Tuckers on becoming an administrator. All those red buttons!! — subtank 09:35, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

I've been warned not to press any of those shiny big red buttons...

I could cut most of the opening summary. The recap may be unnecessary, though I was trying to incorporate something similar to what John-117 has on his article intro. I think the first few sentences comparing Six to John should be kept, though. Something to explain how this character is important.

The image I got from YouTube, because it was the highest quality one I could find, and the configuration didn't look THAT different to me. Guess it is. I lack a screen capture device, though, so unless someone with one of those is willing to take pics of Six in default armor during the cutscenes, I will have to hunt around on YouTube for some video with default. Also, did not know that about the birth date. I will cut that out. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 11:01, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

Well, maybe compress it again instead of deleting it if you feel it is necessary? John-117 is one exceptional, hyper-lethal article; cramming everything from the novels to games to miscellaneous media in that introduction. Not even Six can beat 117.

As for video on Six arriving, might I suggest downloading them from HBO? You can get the links from Cutscene (check the end of the page).

Also, do you have the access launch code to Special:Nuke? — subtank 11:11, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

HBO's Reach cutscenes have Six in brown armor, not black, unless they've been changed recently. I'll probably end up rewriting that summary and compressing it, while expanding down below. I intend to revamp this page a bit.

Nuking? Not that I can tell. Can't seem to find it on the Special Pages list. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 11:18, 15 July 2013 (EDT)

Seems like the canon colour for Six's armour would be black after looking through B.net. So, guess HBO is out.— subtank 13:57, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

I think the best way to make Noble Six in Reach is the following:

Helmet = Mark V[B] Default (early promo material had the extra plate on top, but later was just default including one of the last action figures made)

Left Shoulder = Default

Right Shoulder = Default

Chest = Default

Wrist = Default (although he looks at his wrist after the Long Night of Solace crashes on the mountain, so something should be there)

Utility = Default (as in none)

Visor = Default (It's not gold because Carter's is gold and there's a distinct difference in shade)

Knee Guards = FJ/Para (in all iterations but last colored figure..the clear figure still had FJ/Para)

Primary Color = Steel

Secondary Color = Silver
- ScaleMaster117 (talk) 18:26, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

That all makes sense. But the real issue is finding either a cutscene video on the web that uses that default scheme, or finding someone with the ability to take pictures from their TV. Any volunteers? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 19:34, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

I already have about 22 shots. Some have the different knees and gold visor. Most are good poses. How many should I add? - ScaleMaster117 (talk) 19:58, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

Let's see... how about (Noble Actual) Six being assessed by Noble Team, & leaving the building with Carter, (Winter Contingency) a Campaign shot of Six fighting with Noble Team, (ONI: Sword Base) Six with Jorge during the "I aim to please line" or "Been all hers half me life", (Nightfall) Six with Jun being handed ammo, (Tip of the Spear) Kat and Six in the Warthog while their trooper fires, (Long Night of Solace) a lone shot of Six in the Sabre cockpit when the ship reaches orbit or when Holland is talking to them, & them falling out of the Corvette, (Exodus) Six sneaking into New Alexandria, (New Alexandria) Six looking over the city in the Pelican, & when Kat is killed, (The Package) Six with the ODSTs, & with Noble Team in Halsey's lab, (Pillar of Autumn) Theater shot of Six firing the Onager, (Lone Wolf) Six fighting off the Elites when wounded.

This is deliberately too many pictures, but I'm listing them all to keep my options open. Upload ones like these, perhaps put them in a gallery on your userpage, and I can look them over and see which ones should be included. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 20:51, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

Also, Halo 343 preferred that the pictures be alternatingly male and female. That might be too much to ask for with all of them, but feel free to have the pictures be either gender. Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 22:51, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

I'll try and figure out what my userpage is (still new to wiki stuff) and I'll upload some of the better ones. I think I already have some from your list. I would like to ask what should be represented in the Noble Six's article. Since 343i (and Bungie before them) only considers Noble Six to be male from a canonical standpoint within the fiction and that female Six is only a gameplay option for players, is it appropriate to have female Six pics in the character article of only on a Halo Reach Video Game type of page that includes info like Theater and Forge? - ScaleMaster117 (talk) 22:59, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

Figured it out faster than I thought. Pics up for your review/inclusion on my UserWiki:ScaleMaster117. - ScaleMaster117 (talk) 23:34, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

Thanks! I review them all. But I don't understand your question. What do you mean by "a Halo Reach Video Game type of page"? Tuckerscreator^(stalk) 14:27, 20 July 2013 (EDT)