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Sharpened Shield
The closest Forerunner reference to the "Sharpened Shield" was in terminal five. "relocate evacuated populations to facilities such as those described in the [Onyx project]"--Halo face 20:58, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
Name
Should this page be titled "The Sharpened Shield"? It was given that name first by the Forerunners, so wouldn't that title have precedence over ONI's? SPARTAN-347 23:18, 31 October 2011 (EDT)
- See this.--Lt. Commander 光环的家伙1234 Talk (Contribs) (Edits) 23:27, 31 October 2011 (EDT)
- Even with that, I'm not fully convinced about the name either. We usually tend to use the original names for things, such as "Sangheili" or "Unggoy" instead of "Elite" or "Grunt". ONI's name isn't even a rename per se, it's just an alternate name used by the humans who don't know the original name which, to me, seems more proper in this context. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 05:36, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
- Even then, we don`t always use the original Forerunner names. For example we call it Earth and Mars, not "Erde-Tyrene" and "Edom".--
Rusty - 112 00:03, 8 November 2011 (EST)
- True, it's not that clear-cut. However, I would still say that there is a difference between a planet and an artificial construct in that the name given by the builders is likely to be the most proper or neutral in the case of the latter, not to mention it would be consistent with us using the Forerunner names for the Halo installations. A planet is essentially eternal as far as the known history of the Halo universe is concerned, and they usually aren't built by anybody, so in their case it makes sense to use the newest or most well-known name. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 02:03, 8 November 2011 (EST)
- Even then, we don`t always use the original Forerunner names. For example we call it Earth and Mars, not "Erde-Tyrene" and "Edom".--
- Even with that, I'm not fully convinced about the name either. We usually tend to use the original names for things, such as "Sangheili" or "Unggoy" instead of "Elite" or "Grunt". ONI's name isn't even a rename per se, it's just an alternate name used by the humans who don't know the original name which, to me, seems more proper in this context. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 05:36, 1 November 2011 (EDT)
Name v2
It seems we might have to reconsider the primary title of this article. Taking a look at the edit history of the page Sharpened Shield or its talk page, I noticed that the name "Sharpened Shield" was originally used here, on this site. This was quite a surprise, since I had assumed it was coined by the Encyclopedia writers. Instead, this is another one of those things that the Encyclopedia actually borrowed from here.
What makes it even more bizarre is how the page "Sharpened Shield" was eventually redirected to "Shield World", because people here realized it was never an official title. It appears to have been derived from a piece of Forerunner text which appears a couple of times in Ghosts of Onyx; "And bless the Reclaimers that may take refuge behind the sharpened edge of the Shield..." but the name "Sharpened Shield" never appeared in any official material before someone here on Halopedia decided to use it.
The question is, knowing the facts, should we consider this as a mistake or just let it be? I say we go back to the title "ONI Research Facility Trevelyan", and mention the Sharpened Shield issue in trivia, like we've done with some of the other mistakes in the Encyclopedia that are the result of using outdated content from Halopedia, such as the "United Rebel Front" or the "First" and "Second" battles of Earth. It's surprising how common these things are; just means one has to be way more careful when using anything from the Encyclopedia. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 01:36, 19 March 2012 (EDT)