Halopedia:Requests for adminship/RelentlessRecusant

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Hello! Okay...Wikia staff is considering granting me administrative access to Halopedia...they've advised me to start this forum and take a vote...should RelentlessRecusant be an administrator? =D

• Over 10,000 edits (most edits on site, Esemono has 9,000+)
• Co-founder of the Covenant of Halopedia
• Created many templates, most notably - organizational templates and infoboxes
• Created/edited my fair share of articles, especially starships
• Editor since August 2006 (8 months, w00t! =D)
• Created Halopedia Forums
• Created Project Userbox, which is the source for the userboxes that users use now. =D
• Repeated vandal fighting
• Halopedian of the Month for January 2007

What caused this? Okay. I've been fighting vandals for a long time now, and am extremely frustrated by their tauntings and my inability to do anything rather than revert their edits manually and say "bug off". However, with administrative access, I will be able to automatically revert their edits and ban them permanently. Seeing that I'm on Halopedia probably about as much or even more as all three of the administrators combined, I could greatly aid vandal fighting efforts. I could imagine Ryanngreenday, another of our vandal fighters, similarly frustrated.

This was precipitated by a vandal attack in the morning of March 25, 2007 (Saturday). I was incredibly fed up, and asked Wikia administration for this promotion. This is solely so I can greatly aid vandal fighting efforts and keep Halopedia the clean place it is today, not for any other reason. I promise you that if you vote for me, and I am promoted, that I will work my hardest to improve Halopedia as I already am.

Cheers,

Rainbow Six Vegas File:R6V 1.jpg ^{-[[Frag 'n Clear]]-} File:R6V 2.jpg ^{-[[Smoke 'n Clear]]-} File:R6V 3.jpg ^{-[[Suppressors On]]-} 18:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

For

1. --Jack Phoenix _(Contact) 18:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
2. --Kwarsh ^{[Talk to me!] - [Stuff I've done!]} 18:47, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
3.  G.He_(Talk!) 19:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
4. Spartan G-23 15:12 March 25 2007
5. File:UoH.gif File:Navy Vice Admiral.PNGThe Lieutenant General 19:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
6. Gerzam File:Gerzam.jpg ^{[Communications] [Past Battles]} 19:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
7. H*bad
8. Silenced Nighthawk^{(Comlink)(Past Missions)} 20:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
9. Bloody Hell (I'm allowed to say that, right?) RR an admin? May the Vandals be prepared. Just don't let this go to your head. For RR -- TheObviousOne 20:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
10. Donut THX 1138 File:Capt Donut.PNG ^{[Comm] - [CoH] - ['Nodotee]} 20:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
11. Why not, Peace.--The Chazz025 and Clan 20:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
12. Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IV^COM 20:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
13. Mr. WOZ $ 20:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
14. He is a good admin on Gearspedia, I know he will be good here. Darth tader,Talk to the Tader,My work 20:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
15. Shoe shot 21:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC) Of course, RR pwns
16. Template:Signature/Grievous797
17. --John010117 23:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Comments

Good lord, RR, a Wikia admin thinks you should be an Admin.

See ya,

--Kwarsh ^{[Talk to me!] - [Stuff I've done!]} 19:09, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Good luck! File:UoH.gif File:Navy Vice Admiral.PNGThe Lieutenant General 19:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

• Good luck getting to be an admin. Silenced Nighthawk^{(Comlink)(Past Missions)} 20:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

My two cents is as follows: I can understand both sides of the vote here. I can understand RR and his supporters. I also understand how the naysayers feel. "That with great power comes great responsibility." I understand the concerns that any individual, even if he shows the most self control on the face of the planet, can abuse the power that is handed to them.

That being said, I am leaning a smidgen to the For side of the argument. RR don't make me decide to change my vote. "With great power comes great responsibility" Remember Uncle Ben -- TheObviousOne 20:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

He deserves it. Good luck, RR. Mr. WOZ $ 20:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You deserve it, RR. Although I agree to somewhat what Dragonclaws said, I trust that you would do well, as long as it doesen't go to your head. Social Power can be good, if held by the right person who knows what they're doing with it. He would do well against vandals, which is why he is running. He seems to have what it must take to be an Admin. But, once again, I understand what Dragonclaws means. Many, icluding myself, have seen RR as an excelent candidate for adminship. Hopefully, if there still is a problem between Esemono and him, they will come closer by working together. I don't look at Edit count, I look at how helpful they are, which he has prooven to be quite helpful to pretty much everyone, except vandals. :P Good luck RR!--Gerzam File:Gerzam.jpg ^{[Communications] [Past Battles]} 21:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

RR, You deserve to be an admin here. I know you'll do a great job of fighting against vandals. RR ftw! --John010117 23:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Neutral

1. I choose to remain neutral in order to avoid developing conflicts--Caboose File:Caboose.jpg ^{Orange Juice and Cookies} 19:34, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

1. I don't want to get in trouble with the users that are Against and the users that are With RR. I'd rather stay friends to all of you! =D

Terror File:Halo2emblem.ashx.jpg ^{(Talkie Talkie)(Workie Workie)}

Against

1. NO, I have almost 3000 edits and as Esemono onece said to me, Rlentess Does NOT ues the preview button and that i probly had more edits then him. I Created/edited my fair share of articles to, mostly all the ranks and also made afew templates. I mad tons of userboxes and fought of many many vandels, I stay up very late on haloepdia so i to am on more then all the admits too, and on more then one time stayed up all night with out sleep on halopedia fighting vandels and making userboxes. I was the second halopedian of the month, so if he can be an admit i think i could be to.--ME The Great 18:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh and we started at almost the same time on halopedia.--ME The Great 18:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Everyone makes a small spelling error every once now and then. But I think that perhaps that's not so bad thing. And rarely a wiki is democratic. It's majority what counts. If a majority of users wants RR to be admin - fair. If the majority of users doesn't want Ryanngreenday to become an admin - fair. And there's a reason why Wikia has an IRC channel and an IRC client aswell. It's so that you can alert staff about vandalism, as there's no point of losing your sleep over Wikia. Yes, Wikia can be addictive, but you need to learn when things are going too far. --Jack Phoenix _(Contact) 19:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

No NO, he never used it, he saves the pages checks it over then edits it agian and keeps doing that several times, the admits told him to stop but he wouldnt.--ME The Great 19:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, can you say that you do that better? I don't think so, as your messages are full of spelling errors. A wiki is not an IRC channel. --Jack Phoenix _(Contact) 19:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

2. Yeah if Relentless becomes an admin, then so should Ryan. That would be fair.-- Joshua 029 19:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I have my concerns about RR becoming an admin do to his apparent biases. While he claims not to have anything against Esemono, I still have my doubts based on the kinds of things he posts. When I specifically brought it up not to long ago, he was quick to deny it and not long after posted on Esemono's talk page a long list of people he thought were posting false votes against Esemono's competitor Forerunner in HotM. I have to wonder if he knew about them beforehand but didn't say anything until he had an interest in looking friendly toward Esemono. RR carries a lot of social power on Halopedia, and were he to be put in a position of authority this would greatly increase. Fine if he were wholy rational and good-natured, but I have reason to be afraid that Halopedia may become a place where minority viewpoints (ie. people who don't agree with RR) are suppressed in favor of RR-led majority.

I'm sorry if I've offended you, RR. That is not my wish at all. I just feel that if we are to discuss whether or not RR should be made an admin that I cannot remain silent on my opinions regarding this matter. --Dragonclaws^(talk) 20:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

It's true what Ryan has said about RR's edit count he has been told by the admin staff to stop inflating his edit count by refusing to use show preview button, but he has refused. Also a break down of his count shows that most of his edits are on User pages which means RR edits are mostly from adding FanFiction, now banned, on Halopedia via his FanFiction, RPGs and talking to other users.

If we are to subtract RRs FanFiction edits and his refusal to use the SHOW PREVIEW button I'd say his edits are around 5000. If we're to give everyone who has 5000 edits then we'll have over a hundred admins. Then Halopedia will become the classic example of to many cooks in the kitchen.

I'll be the first to say RR is a nice guy, while I understand that most users like him because he is the first person they talk to I also ask them to look to the past. RR has a history of unstable behavior that I fear he would use to attack other users that disagree with him. One only has to look at when angry about an issue RR erased his account and in a over dramitic scene told everyone he was never coming back. We don't admins who will strike in anger or run away in protest. We need calm rational admins to do things for the good of Halopedia not someone who wants more power. Do you want an Admin who forced their way into power? -- Esemono 01:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Comments

It seems that the reason for the current oppositions is that Ryanngreenday should also become an admin. In that case, instead of opposing RR's nomination, you should probably start another nomination for Ryanngreenday, and see what others think of it. G.He_(Talk!) 19:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

So if I understand Ryanngreenday's argument correctly, he is saying that he is against RR being an admin because he isn't being considered for the position? Don't you have to apply for the position, because if so, it just means RR took the initiative where Ryan didn't. Ryan, if you want to be an admin, apply.

--Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IV^COM 20:54, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Funny how you're all of a sudden quiet about users going over people's heads. Hypocrite? Those in glass houses... -- Esemono 01:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Well i cant sat my real argumnet because i promised i wouldnt, but I am applying as of now, i'd be just as good as relentless but im not able to do any of the fancy forum page thingys or something because im indisposed at this curnet time.--ME The Great 21:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Dear Dragonclaws - actually, I haven't tried to deny tensions with Esemono in the past, even messaging him asking if there was anything I could change to solve it - "...is there any way I could change my personality...?" However, I believe that after this whole thing with the CoH triumvirate voting thing settled, that our relation has calmed a lot, and anyways, if I get administrative access, the current three have bureaucratic access, if you're concerned about power struggles.

Also, Dragonclaws, no offense taken. =D

Cheers,

Rainbow Six Vegas File:R6V 1.jpg ^{-[[Frag 'n Clear]]-} File:R6V 2.jpg ^{-[[Smoke 'n Clear]]-} File:R6V 3.jpg ^{-[[Suppressors On]]-} 21:11, 25 March 2007 (UTC)