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:::::Ignoring canon by recognizing a possibility for survival? The increasing hostility to the theory of that possibility confuses the hell out of me. The page and guide can say what they want, but until there is a body or a far more official statement of his status, I will pursue the theory. Keep in mind that technically ''Glasslands'' is canon. So are Spartans able to punch elderly women without completely liquifying their skulls, now? I applaud and appreciate that nothing can be put on this site without the most strenuous canonical filters, but in instances like this I think assumption takes too great a hold.--[[User talk:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] 23:11, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

::::::Excuse me, but how the hell does ''Glasslands'' have anything to do with this? As Subtank said above: ''It should be noted that if an official source has indeed provide an information about a subject, we should publish that information as it is without further elaboration unless it requires some detailed explanation. If there is a contradiction between sources, then the more authoritative sources shall prevail over other sources. As it is right now, there is no official sources that states that Jorge survived the detonation, thus it is established that there is no contradiction/discrepancy ''for now'', hence the information provided by the ''Visual Guide'' shall stay in the article as a fact. As Jugus said, ''"I don't think this should leave much room for interpretation."''--[[File:Gravemind.svg|20px]] '''''[[User:Spartacus|'''Col. Spartacus''']]''' [[User talk:Spartacus|'''Talk Page''']] [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|Contributions]]'' 23:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

:It's moderately relevant because ''Glasslands'' is a source of canon. Yet that source of canon seriously downplays the enhanced strength of Spartans. So is that canon, now? The Essential Guide says that Jorge is dead, but does it outline how? Was the ''Ardent Prayer'' destroyed? Was he teleported into a sun? There is no explanation, therefore though it's "canon," it's basically an assumption. For instance, take Isaac-039. He and Vinh-030 disappeared on Reach in an explosion, never to be seen again. Is there any canon founding that they might be alive? Or that they might be dead? It's a complete unknown, likely death, but they're listed as "Assumed KIA." So where's the line?

== Unknown SPARTAN II ==

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 :::::Ignoring canon by recognizing a possibility for survival? The increasing hostility to the theory of that possibility confuses the hell out of me. The page and guide can say what they want, but until there is a body or a far more official statement of his status, I will pursue the theory. Keep in mind that technically ''Glasslands'' is canon. So are Spartans able to punch elderly women without completely liquifying their skulls, now? I applaud and appreciate that nothing can be put on this site without the most strenuous canonical filters, but in instances like this I think assumption takes too great a hold.--[[User talk:Ocean Soul|Ocean Soul]] 23:11, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
 ::::::Excuse me, but how the hell does ''Glasslands'' have anything to do with this? As Subtank said above: ''It should be noted that if an official source has indeed provide an information about a subject, we should publish that information as it is without further elaboration unless it requires some detailed explanation. If there is a contradiction between sources, then the more authoritative sources shall prevail over other sources. As it is right now, there is no official sources that states that Jorge survived the detonation, thus it is established that there is no contradiction/discrepancy ''for now'', hence the information provided by the ''Visual Guide'' shall stay in the article as a fact. As Jugus said, ''"I don't think this should leave much room for interpretation."''--[[File:Gravemind.svg|20px]] '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 23:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
+:It's moderately relevant because ''Glasslands'' is a source of canon. Yet that source of canon seriously downplays the enhanced strength of Spartans. So is that canon, now? The Essential Guide says that Jorge is dead, but does it outline how? Was the ''Ardent Prayer'' destroyed? Was he teleported into a sun? There is no explanation, therefore though it's "canon," it's basically an assumption. For instance, take Isaac-039. He and Vinh-030 disappeared on Reach in an explosion, never to be seen again. Is there any canon founding that they might be alive? Or that they might be dead? It's a complete unknown, likely death, but they're listed as "Assumed KIA." So where's the line?
 == Unknown SPARTAN II ==