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Maybe Maria is the wounded Spartan, and Cassandra is a surviving washout like Fajhad. She just happened to be undergoing some procedures at the time, which might mean that the "never-Spartans" occasionally correspond with their active comrades. However, she might have simply been wounded, not a washout, and not too wounded to serve (which might have been a cover for Maria, anyway.) --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 19:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sources ==

Found a source for this:

{{BigQuote|'''UNSCDF asks,'''

''In the LE Booklet it speeks of a female named "Cassandra" is she a Spartan or not?''

A better question would be, "was" she a Spartan?}}

Source: [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=updatefeb03 Bungie Weekly Update 02/03/06]

So we have a source saying that she ''was'' a [[Spartan]]. We should probably add that to the article. But we don't know ''which generation'' of Spartans she was. Chances are, the Master Chief never knew about the SPARTAN-IIIs, but he ''did'' know Cassandra, so we can rule S3 out. This leaves S1 and S2, neither of which are proven. The article is rather inconsistent, with some facts assuming that she's an S1 and others assuming she's an S2.

*The infobox directly states that she's an S1. ("Class")

*The infobox implies that she's an S2, by saying that she was born between [[2510]] and [[2512]], like the other S2s. ("Birth date")

Also, we need to either cite or delete the following information from the article:

*She failed the augmentation. (prose)

**She could have been a successful S1 or S2 who was removed from the front lines for some other reason.

**The BWU says that she "was" a Spartan. If she failed the augmentations, then she would never have been a Spartan, right? (I'm honestly not sure about this point, hence my phrasing it as a question. It's not rhetorical.)

*She is recovering from injuries ''that specifically and directly resulted from the augmentation''. (prose)

**All we know is that she underwent some kind of severe trauma that involves losing one's skin. Whether this refers to a failed augmentation or a multitude of incredibly serious burn wounds is unknown. Yes, augmentation is likely since we know she ''was'' a Spartan, but no sources prove it was the augmentation.

*Her service tag, Spartan or otherwise, is 075. (prose)

*She ''still'' resides at M25L. (prose: "For the time being" rather than "As of <date>")

**She could've left (or died, or been transferred, or been discharged, or...) at any point after September 22nd, 2552. She specifically mentions hearing about the Chief's actions during the [[Battle of Installation 04]], however, so we know that she ''was'' at M25L at around that time, and that she survived until at least September 22nd, 2552.

*She is a [[Petty Officer Second Class]].

**I was under the impression that Spartans progressed normally through the ranks, which is why not all Spartans have the same ranks. We can't assume her rank based on the ranks of other Spartans.

Things that should be mentioned:

*She was alive around September 22nd, 2552 -- more specifically, she survived for an unknown amount of time after the Battle of Installation 04.

And finally, it should be noted that the article on the [[M25L Recovery Station]] states that the Master Chief and [[Avery Johnson]] stayed there shortly after the events at Alpha Halo. There's no source for this, but it could explain how Cassandra learned of the Chief's actions at Halo. Course, I'd assume that the events at Halo would be classified, so either she'd have to be his superior, or they'd have to have already met for him to be willing to divulge that information. [[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|DavidJCobb ]] 01:46, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

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 Maybe Maria is the wounded Spartan, and Cassandra is a surviving washout like Fajhad. She just happened to be undergoing some procedures at the time, which might mean that the "never-Spartans" occasionally correspond with their active comrades. However, she might have simply been wounded, not a washout, and not too wounded to serve (which might have been a cover for Maria, anyway.) --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 19:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
+== Sources ==
+Found a source for this:
+{{BigQuote|'''UNSCDF asks,'''
+''In the LE Booklet it speeks of a female named "Cassandra" is she a Spartan or not?''
+A better question would be, "was" she a Spartan?}}
+Source: [http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=updatefeb03 Bungie Weekly Update 02/03/06]
+So we have a source saying that she ''was'' a [[Spartan]]. We should probably add that to the article. But we don't know ''which generation'' of Spartans she was. Chances are, the Master Chief never knew about the SPARTAN-IIIs, but he ''did'' know Cassandra, so we can rule S3 out. This leaves S1 and S2, neither of which are proven. The article is rather inconsistent, with some facts assuming that she's an S1 and others assuming she's an S2.
+*The infobox directly states that she's an S1. ("Class")
+*The infobox implies that she's an S2, by saying that she was born between [[2510]] and [[2512]], like the other S2s. ("Birth date")
+Also, we need to either cite or delete the following information from the article:
+*She failed the augmentation. (prose)
+**She could have been a successful S1 or S2 who was removed from the front lines for some other reason.
+**The BWU says that she "was" a Spartan. If she failed the augmentations, then she would never have been a Spartan, right? (I'm honestly not sure about this point, hence my phrasing it as a question. It's not rhetorical.)
+*She is recovering from injuries ''that specifically and directly resulted from the augmentation''. (prose)
+**All we know is that she underwent some kind of severe trauma that involves losing one's skin. Whether this refers to a failed augmentation or a multitude of incredibly serious burn wounds is unknown. Yes, augmentation is likely since we know she ''was'' a Spartan, but no sources prove it was the augmentation.
+*Her service tag, Spartan or otherwise, is 075. (prose)
+*She ''still'' resides at M25L. (prose: "For the time being" rather than "As of <date>")
+**She could've left (or died, or been transferred, or been discharged, or...) at any point after September 22nd, 2552. She specifically mentions hearing about the Chief's actions during the [[Battle of Installation 04]], however, so we know that she ''was'' at M25L at around that time, and that she survived until at least September 22nd, 2552.
+*She is a [[Petty Officer Second Class]].
+**I was under the impression that Spartans progressed normally through the ranks, which is why not all Spartans have the same ranks. We can't assume her rank based on the ranks of other Spartans.
+Things that should be mentioned:
+*She was alive around September 22nd, 2552 -- more specifically, she survived for an unknown amount of time after the Battle of Installation 04.
+And finally, it should be noted that the article on the [[M25L Recovery Station]] states that the Master Chief and [[Avery Johnson]] stayed there shortly after the events at Alpha Halo. There's no source for this, but it could explain how Cassandra learned of the Chief's actions at Halo. Course, I'd assume that the events at Halo would be classified, so either she'd have to be his superior, or they'd have to have already met for him to be willing to divulge that information. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 01:46, November 2, 2009 (UTC)