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Mendez is a Marine/Navy person, right? --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 18:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Mendez is a Marine/Navy person, right? --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 18:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, he is an enlisted navy member, you can tell by hus rank. --<b>[[User:ED/Gaming|<font color="black">DEMON</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">SPAWN</font>]][[User:ED|<font color="blue">ED</font>]]</b> 18:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, he is an enlisted navy member, you can tell by hus rank. --<b>[[User:ED/Gaming|<font color="black">DEMON</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">SPAWN</font>]][[User:ED|<font color="blue">ED</font>]]</b> 18:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::Marine Corps and the Navy are not the same thing. He's enlisted Navy, as ED said. <div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div> 16:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)


I know a teacher at my school named Mendez... My friends and I call him SCPO Mendez for fun sometimes, since he reads the books, too.... --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 18:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
I know a teacher at my school named Mendez... My friends and I call him SCPO Mendez for fun sometimes, since he reads the books, too.... --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>  [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 18:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
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In the early career bit its states, "This possibility was proven true when [[Kurt Ambrose]] requested that Mendez teach the SPARTAN-IIIs, and [[James Ackerson]] replied ''I understand. Spartans are needed to teach Spartans'' and shortly afterward Ackerson had Mendez transferred to teach the SPARTAN-IIIs." This is wrong, this quote does not exist, the actual line is on page 48 and is;
In the early career bit its states, "This possibility was proven true when [[Kurt Ambrose]] requested that Mendez teach the SPARTAN-IIIs, and [[James Ackerson]] replied ''I understand. Spartans are needed to teach Spartans'' and shortly afterward Ackerson had Mendez transferred to teach the SPARTAN-IIIs." This is wrong, this quote does not exist, the actual line is on page 48 and is;
Ackerson:I'll need a SPARTAN-II to help me train these new recuits.
Ackerson:I'll need a SPARTAN-II to help me train these new recruits.
Captain Gibson: And you're just going to ask Dr.Halsey to lend you one?
Captain Gibson: And you're just going to ask Dr. Halsey to lend you one?
Ackerson: I have a different methodology in mind.
Ackerson: I have a different methodology in mind.
Parangosky: You need a spartan to train a spartan, of course, but...tread damned lightly. Ackerson has already planned to have CPO Mendez train them as stated on page 63, "Mendez, will of course, join you," - Ackerson. I have deleted that line from the early career section.
Parangosky: You need a spartan to train a spartan, of course, but...tread damned lightly. Ackerson has already planned to have CPO Mendez train them as stated on page 63, "Mendez, will of course, join you," - Ackerson. I have deleted that line from the early career section.
== Again with tough humans being SPARTANS... ==
''"It has been implied throughout the series that he was a SPARTAN-I in the ORION Project. It has also been implied that augmentations he underwent during the SPARTAN-I project have kept him strong into his old age, allowing him to take an active role in training and combat."''
Implied... where? From my own personal experience, I can tell you that Drill Instructors are some of the toughest people to walk the planet - they never show that they're tired (or even injured) and they are in incredibly good shape. If Halo has kept that image up, it's easy to understand why he seems to be so energetic at his age - after all, he is still a Drill Instructor, only now he's training SPARTANs. You also have to factor in the possibility that apparently people live a lot longer in the Halo universe. I will leave this portion of text on the page. I expect an answer as to where it is implied. I will also be researching.
''"It may be possible that Mendez was a Spartan-I. The biggest piece of evidence to support this claim is the fact that he trained the Spartan-IIs."''
OK, he trained the SPARTAN-IIs... how does that factor into him taking part in the ORION project?
''"ONI "hired" a Spartan (Kurt) to train the next generation of Spartans. This could mean that ONI has the previous generation of Spartans train the new Spartans."''
What solid proof do you have that Mendez was a SPARTAN to begin with? Was he ever a member of NAVSPECWAR, aside from serving as a Drill Instructor to the SPARTANs? If not, he was not a SPARTAN-I - from what I've heard, NAVSPECWAR is where they recruited volunteers for the project.
''"Another, yet small, piece of evidence is when he asks Kurt near the start of Ghosts of Onyx, "Do they let Spartans drink now?""''
Was Kurt the one drinking? If so, there's your answer - he wasn't referring to himself.
All in all, this is speculation. I will remove this section. When you can produce a viable source, you will put it back. <div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div> 16:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

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Could Mendez be a Spartan I. Kurt or Kurt Ambrose was a Spartan and then he became a spartan III trainer. So was Mendez. He could have never been named Mendez but I might be wrong.The Consumed ,The Dead ,and Living File:ESE.JPG 21:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Is that all you're going by? The fact that SPARTANs tend to train SPARTANs?

it's specifically mentioned in ghosts of onyx that mendez is a spartan-i: kurt requests that mendez train his spartan-iii's, and ackerson says "i understand, spartans are needed to train spartans". i'll find a specific page in a little bit.CaptJim 05:22, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Mendez is a Marine/Navy person, right? --Blemo progress-wheel.gif TALK CONTRIBUTIONSTHE SOURCE OF SPAM 18:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, he is an enlisted navy member, you can tell by hus rank. --DEMONSPAWNED 18:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Marine Corps and the Navy are not the same thing. He's enlisted Navy, as ED said. 16:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I know a teacher at my school named Mendez... My friends and I call him SCPO Mendez for fun sometimes, since he reads the books, too.... --Blemo progress-wheel.gif TALK CONTRIBUTIONSTHE SOURCE OF SPAM 18:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

sorry to disapoint but Mendez cant me a spartan 1 because hes too old. in ghost of onyx he is 60 where are the same time in halo 2 johnson, a spartan 1, can nly be about 30. Themasteridiot

Wrong Information

In the early career bit its states, "This possibility was proven true when Kurt Ambrose requested that Mendez teach the SPARTAN-IIIs, and James Ackerson replied I understand. Spartans are needed to teach Spartans and shortly afterward Ackerson had Mendez transferred to teach the SPARTAN-IIIs." This is wrong, this quote does not exist, the actual line is on page 48 and is; Ackerson:I'll need a SPARTAN-II to help me train these new recruits. Captain Gibson: And you're just going to ask Dr. Halsey to lend you one? Ackerson: I have a different methodology in mind. Parangosky: You need a spartan to train a spartan, of course, but...tread damned lightly. Ackerson has already planned to have CPO Mendez train them as stated on page 63, "Mendez, will of course, join you," - Ackerson. I have deleted that line from the early career section.

Again with tough humans being SPARTANS...

"It has been implied throughout the series that he was a SPARTAN-I in the ORION Project. It has also been implied that augmentations he underwent during the SPARTAN-I project have kept him strong into his old age, allowing him to take an active role in training and combat."

Implied... where? From my own personal experience, I can tell you that Drill Instructors are some of the toughest people to walk the planet - they never show that they're tired (or even injured) and they are in incredibly good shape. If Halo has kept that image up, it's easy to understand why he seems to be so energetic at his age - after all, he is still a Drill Instructor, only now he's training SPARTANs. You also have to factor in the possibility that apparently people live a lot longer in the Halo universe. I will leave this portion of text on the page. I expect an answer as to where it is implied. I will also be researching.

"It may be possible that Mendez was a Spartan-I. The biggest piece of evidence to support this claim is the fact that he trained the Spartan-IIs."

OK, he trained the SPARTAN-IIs... how does that factor into him taking part in the ORION project?

"ONI "hired" a Spartan (Kurt) to train the next generation of Spartans. This could mean that ONI has the previous generation of Spartans train the new Spartans."

What solid proof do you have that Mendez was a SPARTAN to begin with? Was he ever a member of NAVSPECWAR, aside from serving as a Drill Instructor to the SPARTANs? If not, he was not a SPARTAN-I - from what I've heard, NAVSPECWAR is where they recruited volunteers for the project.

"Another, yet small, piece of evidence is when he asks Kurt near the start of Ghosts of Onyx, "Do they let Spartans drink now?""

Was Kurt the one drinking? If so, there's your answer - he wasn't referring to himself.

All in all, this is speculation. I will remove this section. When you can produce a viable source, you will put it back.

16:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)