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 Our manual of style says to see Wikipedia's manual of style for more information. However, [[wikipedia:WP:UCN|part of Wikipedia's manual of style says to use the most common name of a person or thing]]. This is a practice that we do not follow. See, for example, the inane naming of the [[Needler]] article: ''Type-33 Guided Munitions Launcher''. As you can tell, I think this practice is horrifically moronic. Nevertheless, it conflicts with Wikipedia's manual of style, so note on our naming conventions needs to be added here. I'd do it, but I'm bitter. -- [[User:Couchpotato99|<font color="red">Couchpotato99</font>]] <small>[[User talk:Couchpotato99|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Couchpotato99|<font color="blue">(contribs)</font>]]</small> 21:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
-Thanks for looking over that. We'll look into it. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 21:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
+:Thanks for looking over that. We'll look into it. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 21:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 :I checked some Wikipedia articles, and I found that most common names are used.  For example, [[Wikipedia:AK-47|the article on the AK-47]] is named '''AK-47''', not '''Automatic Kalashnikov Model of 1947'''.  If we really are trying to follow the style of Wikipedia articles, we should rename all of our weapons and vehicles.  But we also must remember that content must conform to canon, and these are not the official names.  This is really an issue of Halopedia's objectives.  Therefore, I am {{Neutral}}. [[User:An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#2D1925; font-family: georgia, times">'''Jora 'Mantak<sub>An elite '92</sub>'''</span>]]-[[User talk: An elite '92|<span style = "color:#5D1A39; font-family: georgia, times">Battlenet</span>]]-[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_profile:An_elite_%2792 <span style = "color:#B7608A; font-family: georgia, times">Brothers</span>]-[[Special:Contributions/An_elite_'92|<span style = "color:#CCCCCC; font-family: georgia, times">Combat History</span>]] 00:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 ::It's not a vote. --[[User talk:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 03:09, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
+::"Unggoy" is better than "Grunt" because while it is used less, it is almost equally recognizable and more accurate; "M41 LAAG", on the other hang, is '''far''' less recognizable ''and'' used than "Warthog". Original names for species and maybe even weapons should be used, but for vehicles, the most recognizable name (the name used in-game) should be used. It's a "Wraith" first and a "Type-Something Whatever Carriage Thing" second. My rationale? A mix of canon and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:UCN]] (That link actually does work -- UCN in the Wikipedia namespace on Wikipedia). <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 01:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
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 ==Trivia==
 I'm glad my originally unappreciated idea of splitting the trivia has been made official in the MOS. Thx Subz! {{Arby116Sig}}
+== Recommendations ==
+A few recommendations for changes, amendments, etc.:
+The placement of the Walkthrough template in a level article is not intuitive. New users may miss it entirely. Furthermore, there are inconsistencies between practice and the specification: we place the Walkthrough template in the "Behind the Scenes" article ''if there is one''; otherwise, we stuff it in "Transcripts". The spec fails to mention that conditional alternative location for the template.
+I would recommend either returning to the Section-With-{{[[Template:Main|Main]]}} notation we used to use, or modifying the Level Infobox template to contain a clearly-marked Walkthrough link. If the latter idea is used, I'd recommend that for aesthetic purposes, we put the walkthrough link next to or below the level title, move the Prev/Game/Next links below the level title, and "stack" them horizontally (with a nested table or by setting colSpan="3" on every other cell in the 'box).
+In the Level spec, do the "Summary/Brief Introduction" guidelines cover the sectionless intro paragraph? If so, then we may need another section called "Background" or "Description", as the intros for levels like [[The Covenant (Level)|The Covenant]] are detailed and long, traits that are explicitly discouraged by the spec.
+We may wanna also specify a max-width for level thumbnails/images in Level Infoboxes, preferrably one that can be consistently met across all levels. (That is, no level image should have to ''increase'' in size to match other levels.) I'd recommend something like the intros I write for glitch articles: brief, maybe one or two sentences, providing a really brief summary.
+Example:
+:"'''The Covenant''' is the eighth mission in ''[[Halo 3]]''<nowiki/>'s [[Campaign]]. In this level, the eponymous [[Covenant Empire]] makes its last stand, and the [[Covenant Separatists]] and [[UNSC]] cooperate to attack the [[Prophet of Truth]], who is hiding in the [[Ark]]'s [[Citadel]]."
+...And then toss everything else in a "Description" or "Background" section. An added benefit is that the new section could also summarize and explain the level's plot and actions (such as the breaching of the barriers and Truth's dependency on Johnson to activate the Ark).
+Thoughts? <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 01:32, 29 August 2009 (UTC)