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From my own experience with the U.S. Military and interactions with NATO and Allied forces, I have to agree with Ross-073. ODSTs do resemble the more conventional forces of the Rangers. Spartans II's are definitely SOC troops, with a training and operational lineage that can be traced to SEALs or "Green Berets" or SAS. ODST's seem to fall more into a cross between Rangers and more conventional Airborne forces. Ross-073 is right, there really isn't a current Marine analog to ODST's and they do seem to be more Army than any other branch of service. However I would like to point out that Rangers (not Ranger qualified, but the Ranger Regiment) are part of USASOC and are considered a Special Operations Unit. While other branches SOF (like Marine Recon and Air Force Paras) are tasked with specific missions but are trained and equipped to engage in direct combat operationson a limited basis, The Rangers primary mission is assault, with the ability to concurrently preform other missions similar to what Recon, Pathfinders and Paras would do primarily. Also, SIII's while obviously attached to the SOC by their very nature have more in common with the Rangers of WWII than with Special Forces, the idea of sending in a battalion sized unit to engage a numerically superior enemy force and complete an objective regardless of cost. I do agree that Bungie has underdeveloped the ARMY of the UNSC, but that is an oversight that seems to be prevalent in today's Media. The Marines are far more "badass" in their own histories and they have a more savage public image. The Army by it's very size is all clumped together as a single entity, because unraveling its complexities is too difficult for laymen to attempt. They would rather clump us all together as Tankers and Grunts then attempt to create an accurate picture of what we do. In the end, The Army gets dumped for the Marines 'cause it sounds cooler. But those of us who served all know that the Rangers do more, with less, quicker and more efficiently than any conventional Army or Marine unit. I guess we'll just have to be happy with the truth. --<b>[[User:Spamhammer|<span style="color:Blue; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Spamhammer</span>]] [[User talk:Spamhammer|<span style="color:Red; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">"I reject your reality and substitute my own."</span>]]</b> 14:40, December 20, 2009 (UTC) | From my own experience with the U.S. Military and interactions with NATO and Allied forces, I have to agree with Ross-073. ODSTs do resemble the more conventional forces of the Rangers. Spartans II's are definitely SOC troops, with a training and operational lineage that can be traced to SEALs or "Green Berets" or SAS. ODST's seem to fall more into a cross between Rangers and more conventional Airborne forces. Ross-073 is right, there really isn't a current Marine analog to ODST's and they do seem to be more Army than any other branch of service. However I would like to point out that Rangers (not Ranger qualified, but the Ranger Regiment) are part of USASOC and are considered a Special Operations Unit. While other branches SOF (like Marine Recon and Air Force Paras) are tasked with specific missions but are trained and equipped to engage in direct combat operationson a limited basis, The Rangers primary mission is assault, with the ability to concurrently preform other missions similar to what Recon, Pathfinders and Paras would do primarily. Also, SIII's while obviously attached to the SOC by their very nature have more in common with the Rangers of WWII than with Special Forces, the idea of sending in a battalion sized unit to engage a numerically superior enemy force and complete an objective regardless of cost. I do agree that Bungie has underdeveloped the ARMY of the UNSC, but that is an oversight that seems to be prevalent in today's Media. The Marines are far more "badass" in their own histories and they have a more savage public image. The Army by it's very size is all clumped together as a single entity, because unraveling its complexities is too difficult for laymen to attempt. They would rather clump us all together as Tankers and Grunts then attempt to create an accurate picture of what we do. In the end, The Army gets dumped for the Marines 'cause it sounds cooler. But those of us who served all know that the Rangers do more, with less, quicker and more efficiently than any conventional Army or Marine unit. I guess we'll just have to be happy with the truth. --<b>[[User:Spamhammer|<span style="color:Blue; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Spamhammer</span>]] [[User talk:Spamhammer|<span style="color:Red; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">"I reject your reality and substitute my own."</span>]]</b> 14:40, December 20, 2009 (UTC) | ||