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{{FactOrFictionTalk|06:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)|[[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]]|This is in fact a [[Covenant Flagship]] and should be merged as such.}}
{{FactOrFictionResolved|06:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)|[[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]]|This is in fact a [[Covenant Flagship]] and should be merged as such.|11:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC)}}
==Merge with Covenant Supercarrier?==
==Merge with Covenant Supercarrier?==


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I didnt actually edit that page did i? i didnt think i did i thought i was just discussing it in that pages discussion page...sorry if i did change something-i didnt mean to.
I didnt actually edit that page did i? i didnt think i did i thought i was just discussing it in that pages discussion page...sorry if i did change something-i didnt mean to.
:Nope, you didn't. It's fine dude. It's just on the talk page, we're having a discussion to merge, and if people read your comment andget the wrong idea...=S But at least we've got it resolved! Have fun editing! Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 23:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, you didn't. It's fine dude. It's just on the talk page, we're having a discussion to merge, and if people read your comment andget the wrong idea...=S But at least we've got it resolved! Have fun editing! Cheers, '''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]][[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]][[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]''' 23:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
==Covenant Supercarrier is mentioned by name==
According to [[User:Rotaretilbo|Rot]] at 23:15 6.12.06:
:One page 236 of [[Halo: Ghosts of Onyx]], you will note "The Unggoy Kwassass knew his pace aboard the Covenant supercarrier ''Sublime Transcendence''." Above this, in the chapter data log, it says "ABOARD FLEET CARRIER ''SUBLIME TRANSCENDENCE'', IN ORBIT ABOVE JOYOUS EXULTATION, SYSTEM SALIA". Thus, it can be concluded that not only is the supercarrier a Covenant warship, but it is also called the fleet carrier.

Revision as of 06:41, December 7, 2006

Facts Confirmed

  • On 06:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC) Yamanba had some issues with this article, including, "This is in fact a Covenant Flagship and should be merged as such.". However on 11:41, 7 December 2006 (UTC) they were resolved:

Merge with Covenant Supercarrier?

No I think that it should not be merged, the supercrusier is a larger, and more powerfull version of the covenant battle crusier, and thus ia a lower class than a super carrier

Merge with Assault Carrier?

On the Assault Carrier page it says that they serve as the flagships of large fleets, and carry the greatest firepower and that "Assault Carrier" is the term applied to the largest of the battleships within the Covenant.

Are there any links proving that this class of ship exists? -- Yamanba 03:31, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Supercarrier

The covenant have many classes of ships, includeing the type of ship. So I think it should stay the same, but more information.

It mentons in Halo: First Strike there was a ship that had 5 bubies sectons, and larger then a carrier--Darth nexes 19:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

That ship mentioned is the Covenant Flagship as shown by the book Halo: First Strike -- Yamanba 06:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
what? 5 bulbous sections on a flagship? Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 02:11, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I remember reading the holy texts and it also said something about the flagship having 5 bulbous sections -- Fist of Rukt 04:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Votes to Merge

Merge

  1. MERGE As shown by the overwhelming evidence in First Strike this class of ship is fanfiction as shown by the 5 bulbous sections quote from HFS. -- Fist of Rukt 04:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Do Not Merge

  1. Strong Keep - most strongly object to merging. Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 23:37, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
  2. Do not merge- I with RelentlessRecusant--Darth nexes 22:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Neutral

Comments

In halo first strike the only comment i noticed to a ship with 5 bulbous sections is when the cheif looks out of the dropship for the first time it says: There were covenant cruisers and larger carriers; there were even bigger vessels with five bulbous sections that were two kilometeres stem to stern and had a dozen deadly energyprojectors.. So where does it say that it is a supercarrier?? especialy since it being a supercarrier i would have thought it would be alot bigger than a assault carrier (which is actually bigger than said ship) or a ccs-class battlecruiser which if the ship is 2 kilometeres it isnt much bigger than so if it is a supper carrier it isnt very aptly named. The only place a supersarrier is mentioned in fs is as defending high charity there might not even have been any supercarriers at the unyeilding heirophant for all we know so there might be no link at all between a supercarrier and five bulbous sectioned ships (especialy with the size issue). —This unsigned comment was made by 62.253.128.15 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

  • I am not taking it from there! I am taking it from the epilogue of Halo: First Strike! Read the references section on the main article, at the bottom, and check it out yourself! Thanks. cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 00:47, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I have just checked it out are you referencing the bit that states: The renegade flagship Ascendant justice was involved, and destroyed because that is what tartarus says to truth when he asks what happened to the unyeilding heirophant...??? —This unsigned comment was made by 62.253.128.15 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

It's in the Epilogue

About its factuality, see the exact page reference that I've listed in the actual article itself, where it says the stuff 'bout the warships guarding High Charity. Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 01:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

What is the page number of the Epilogue section where it is mentioned? It actually says Covenant Supercarrier? -- Esemono 03:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Yikes im silly.. :(

sorry i skim read...i should pay more attention...whoops ;) —This unsigned comment was made by 62.253.128.15 (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

It's fine. Then, please go to the Covenant Supercarrier page and cross out your text if you believe that my sources are correct by going like: <s>whatever text you typed before</s>. Thanks! Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 14:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I didnt do it

I didnt actually edit that page did i? i didnt think i did i thought i was just discussing it in that pages discussion page...sorry if i did change something-i didnt mean to.

Nope, you didn't. It's fine dude. It's just on the talk page, we're having a discussion to merge, and if people read your comment andget the wrong idea...=S But at least we've got it resolved! Have fun editing! Cheers, RelentlessRecusantFile:Jedi Order.jpg 23:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Covenant Supercarrier is mentioned by name

According to Rot at 23:15 6.12.06:

One page 236 of Halo: Ghosts of Onyx, you will note "The Unggoy Kwassass knew his pace aboard the Covenant supercarrier Sublime Transcendence." Above this, in the chapter data log, it says "ABOARD FLEET CARRIER SUBLIME TRANSCENDENCE, IN ORBIT ABOVE JOYOUS EXULTATION, SYSTEM SALIA". Thus, it can be concluded that not only is the supercarrier a Covenant warship, but it is also called the fleet carrier.