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:To DC Ambrose: I made the edit because I carelessly TL;DR'ed the page before going to work. There had been quite a bit of disagreement over the article's content in months past. When I saw the wording of the post, particularly the use of "canonically obsolete material", I automatically assumed someone was trying to beleaguer the point. I'm sorry. Anyway, I understand your reasoning about John's physique, though I disagree with it. John looks like a sickly twelve-year-old in the cutscene, whereas the Spartan candidates in ''Scanned'' really aren't all that buff (especially given their fairly skinny legs). They're toned, sure, but they aren't built like football players as you described them in your last edit. The whole "body of an eighteen-year-old Olympic athlete" bit is just imagery meant to convey John's physique; it isn't strictly literal. I prefer to think his appearance is due to Halsey's guilt-ridden interpretation. That's just my personal theory, of course; I'm not trying to suggest that his depiction in the ''Prologue'' is invalid. Canon is canon and games are the highest form of canon, but a character's POV can complicate matters. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 00:11, 25 September 2013 (EDT) | :To DC Ambrose: I made the edit because I carelessly TL;DR'ed the page before going to work. There had been quite a bit of disagreement over the article's content in months past. When I saw the wording of the post, particularly the use of "canonically obsolete material", I automatically assumed someone was trying to beleaguer the point. I'm sorry. Anyway, I understand your reasoning about John's physique, though I disagree with it. John looks like a sickly twelve-year-old in the cutscene, whereas the Spartan candidates in ''Scanned'' really aren't all that buff (especially given their fairly skinny legs). They're toned, sure, but they aren't built like football players as you described them in your last edit. The whole "body of an eighteen-year-old Olympic athlete" bit is just imagery meant to convey John's physique; it isn't strictly literal. I prefer to think his appearance is due to Halsey's guilt-ridden interpretation. That's just my personal theory, of course; I'm not trying to suggest that his depiction in the ''Prologue'' is invalid. Canon is canon and games are the highest form of canon, but a character's POV can complicate matters. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 00:11, 25 September 2013 (EDT) | ||
::I think we also get thrown off a bit, because the first shot of John sitting in his bed makes him look so young. That's because he is. The first shot is of John shortly after the program began, not right before his augmentations. In the next scene, his face is covered, so we don't see the difference as clearly, but the body proportions are definitely different. His head is much larger in relation to the rest of his body in the first scene as compared to the scene when he lies down on the table. This also fits in with previous media, which showed us John's face as a child under 10 but had it obscured by the time he got his augmentations. <br/>Let's also remember that "Olympic athlete" is a very nebulous term. I can incorporate a wide range of body types; everything from gymnasts to weightlifters. Are the Spartans in "Scanned" somewhat exaggerated? Yes. But "grossly inaccurate"? No, especially when you consider that the Spartans were genetically selected specifically because they were already destined to be much bigger and stronger than the average, then trained relentlessly for seven solid years.<br/> Your point about ''Halo 4'' being superior canon is correct, but your edit definitely needs improvement, both in style and substance.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 00:17, 25 September 2013 (EDT) | |||