Talk:Promethean Knight

Variants/Questions

two types? I could have seen one that was glowing blue in the campaign reveal and others glowing orange. Could this be evidence of two variants or even factions?--Theraptor92 16:40, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

I'm sorry I can't answer you're question, but i have one of my own: Are the Knights Forerunners or Forerunner machines?Weeping Angel 14:38, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

@Weeping Angel - Cortana says that the first Knight John encounters is "definitely not organic", so I'd assume they're just AI-driven automatons. @Theraptor92 - I'd imagine the blue ones are another model of Knight or a similar but distinct class of Forerunner machines. --Courage never dies. 14:56, 5 June 2012 (EDT)

I was thinking that maybe the knights are some stripped down form of the war sphinxes that the Didact mentions. The seekers that replaced the sphinxes are smaller, so perhaps this is just the combination of that technology with the programming of a sentinel. --FATGUNN 14:14, 26 July 2012 (EDT)

I was just wondering this - Could the glowing skull be simply used to intimidate the enemy?, i mean I doubt that the Knights are part organic in any way, instead the human like skull (Which could indicate they were used against humans in the past - Possibly the Human-Forerunner War - and considering the timing when it showed the skull, when it had pounced on MC, the skull could be used as psychological warfare, by scaring the enemy, but this is just as thought--Matt98 06:56, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

I would guess the skull belongs to a Forerunner - there's structural differences between the Knight skull and a normal human skull. Maybe the Knights are suits of armor, designed to keep fighting even after the Promethean inside is dead? SPARTAN-347 13:17, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

Well I don't see the forerunners adding to the legion of flood combat forms unless they have to so i doubt that the knights were ever organic. its probably like the huragok where its so advanced it might as well be organic. Jac0bBau3r1995 10:05, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

The Knights are probably "AI" in the same way Spark was, alive once but then turned into an AI by the Composer.ArchedThunder 04:33, 27 August 2012 (EDT)

I believe that the blue prometheans are sided with the Covenant Storm forces on Requiem. I say this purely speculation from this quote "First you encounter the Covenant. Then the Prometheans. But it is when they combine forces, and how they combine, that will offer biggest surprises." on this Halocouncil post -- [redacted] TMek7 ^{Invasion FTW!} 19:40, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

The blue Prometheans fight the Covenant in Forerunner (level), and when John awakens Didact, they turn red. Is it possible that they were under some control by the Librarian and were trying to stop anyone from reawakening Didact? 98.155.159.178 20:51, 7 December 2012 (EST)

That's exactly what was happening. That's why they even would attack John.Ocean Soul 20:53, 7 December 2012 (EST)

If The Librarian had some involvement, why would they attack John? The Sentinels didn't. Also, didn't Didact have some form of power while in his Cryptum? 98.155.159.178 21:58, 16 December 2012 (EST)

Initially, the Knights don't attack John. It's only when he continues to be a persistent threat to the security of the Didact's prison that he's deemed a target. When they first show up, and even the first few moment of that mission, the Knights well could have overtaken the Chief, but didn't.Ocean Soul 03:14, 17 December 2012 (EST)

It looked like they were gonna jump him though. Where'd the portal come from anyway? Cortana? Didact? 98.155.159.178 03:34, 17 December 2012 (EST)

Citations

Where did you get the Lancer, Battlewagon, and Commander subtypes? I'm not very up to date so if you could put citations in for me that would be great. Thanks. Weeping Angel 22:37, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

That all came from this article [redacted]. Enjoy!--Spartacus, Halopedia Administrator ^Talk 00:11, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

Some new kind of war sphinx maybe?

I don't know what everyone else may or may not be thinking, but it seems to me that maybe these could somehow possibly some new kind of war sphinx, but more advanced? It seems possible that they may contain some of the essences of long-dead Promethean Warrior-Servants, but I cannot be sure of this. Your thoughts? --Xamikaze330 20:13, 17 September 2012 (EDT)Xamikaze330

My first guesses are that they're either A) live Prometheans encased in war sphinx-like suits of armor (possibly shriveled due to hibernation, hence the little "organic" arms sticking out) or B) dead Prometheans that have been converted by the Composer/something else into machines SPARTAN-347 22:14, 17 September 2012 (EDT)

Actually, in the newest Making Halo 4 documentary, at one point, I saw a concept art of the Knight, and it appears to have a humanoid inside a suit. Maybe it's an exoskeleton?. —S331 _{(COM • Mission Log • Profile)} 07:57, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

At one point in Return of the Forerunners, Kiki Wolfkill stated that "We didn't want them to look like robots, because they're not robots." So maybe you're right about it being an exoskeleton.--Spartacus, Halopedia Administrator ^Talk 10:39, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

I noticed the humanoid inside too, what bothers me is the fact they disintegrate upon death, this could just be a security pre-caution though. Col. Snipes450 11:41, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

I don't think it's an exoskeleton. if you look at the picture at the top of the article you'll notice that the legs aren't physically connected to the rest of the body. Weeping Angel 11:47, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

Due to the Composer being in the game, as well as Kiki's comment, it seems likely to me they were Prometheans that were turned into AIs, as S-347 said. Alex T Snow 18:51, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

Headshot-able?

Is it me or are Knights immune to headshots? 98.155.159.178 19:25, 8 November 2012 (EST)

Its just you. They're quite headshot-able Spartan 501

I just played Halo 4 (my cousin got it recently) and no matter how many times I shot a Promethean Knight's head with a Lightrifle, it JUST, WOULDN'T, DIE! 98.155.159.178 03:27, 31 December 2012 (EST)

I was going to add this but apparently I'm not the only one who's confused. My current theory is that they need to open their head after you break their shields before you can headshot them. However, I'm not sure how you can get them to do that, and I think I've killed them with closed masks before. So seriously, has anyone figured this out yet? Always use the DMR. This is craZboy557, signing off. 10:23, 8 April 2013 (EDT)

Energy Shielding?

They have them, right? I see their orange bodies flicker blue when I attack them. 98.155.159.178 03:43, 31 December 2012 (EST)

Yes, they most certainly do have shields. Something stops the projectile/beam from being a one-shot instant kill when I fire on them with a sniper rifle, particle beam rifle or a binary rifle. First shot cracks and breaks their shields, second shot is the follow-up killing blow. One-two strike! --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 13:02, 30 January 2013 (EST)Xamikaze330

Just Wondering: Hardlight Blade

Hey, everyone, I was kinda thinking and wondering, does the Knight's hardlight blade weapons need its own separate article? I mean, I kinda think it would be a good idea if we did, seeing as we can go little bit more into detail of the weapon's function, how it works, and any other necessary information fans might want to know. I can do it, but before I did I just wanted to know everyone else thought. So, any thoughts or objections? --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 13:02, 30 January 2013 (EST)Xamikaze330

No objections here. Although, as of now, the article would be sort of redundant since it is essentially an extension of the Knights themselves. Much like the claw is for the Flood-infected Spartans. Just my opinion though, but hey, go for it.-Killjax (talk | contribs)

You're probably right. Does seem fairly pointless and redundant. Besides, there really isn't much information to be given other than what we already know. Still, doesn't hurt to ask. Thanks for your feedback. :-) --Xamikaze330 (talk|contribs) 19:06, 30 January 2013 (EST)Xamikaze330

30,000 lbs?

Who changed their weight to reflect this? It seems we have a troll, as they also listed them as 26 feet tall, and the Librarian as 24 feet tall and weighing 1,000 pounds.Ocean Soul (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2013 (EST)

Vandalism, edits reverted, IP blocked.--Spartacus ^{Talk • Contribs} 21:22, 16 November 2013 (EST)

Disintegration?

When a Knight kills a biological using any of the Forerunner, does the biological disintegrate? This is not covered in the article or any other Forerunner weapon articles, save for the F-shotgun and F-rocket launcher.— Hacame 10:59, 25 July 2014 (EDT)

The only weapons that disintegrate organic enemies are the Scattershot, Binary Rifle, and Incineration cannon. If the Promethean Knight is using a Lightrifle or Suppressor than no the organic target will not become corn flakes.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 12:03, 25 July 2014 (EDT)

and pulse grenades. Knights have grenade launcher joint things. Their sword arm folds the sword and from the joint, launches a pulse grenade. So even if they don't have total incinerating weapons, they can still mop up. Remember when Cortana says that the flood re gathering bodies in the corners in CE? That would be a good time for knights to mop up. Erickyboo (talk) 13:16, 25 July 2014 (EDT)

Do Knights die or do they get digitally recycled

It has occurred to me that when you destroy a Knight, and its light fades away they're gone, but are they gone for good, or they're souls/cores are uploaded to some kind of Forerunner system just to be reconstructed and deployed to fight and repeat the cycle, or am I just mistaken, please any comments will be welcomed.—This unsigned comment was made by Trooper1173 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Cortana says, pretty explicitly, that the effect is caused by hardlight data transfer. Presumably, therefore, that data is being transferred somewhere - I can't imagine why else, but to be used to occupy and motivate new Promethean shells. We haven't seen anywhere on Requiem that made Promethean bodies, not to mention the fact that even if we had Requiem tumbled into a star, but Jul 'Mdama seems to have a pretty healthy supply of them, and has apparently added some new ones to their ranks. They had to come from somewhere. -- Qura 'Morhek ^{The Autocrat of Morheka} 05:45, 9 July 2015 (EDT)