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== Drives == | |||
''Mythos'' (p132) says the ship has repulsor engines. ''H4 EVG'' identifies them as "XR2 Boglin Fields: S81/X-DFR". Assuming DFR refers to "deuterium fusion reactor" (which we have assumed so far) it seems somewhat out of place for engines so technologically different to be grouped in the same category as humanity's more conventional fusion thrusters. In all fairness, it could be that the engines use repulsor technology and only derive their power from deuterium-deuterium reactors, while the "X" before the "DFR" could indicate "experimental" or "xeno" or something similar. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 02:53, 12 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Yeah, [[:File:Infinity_fud_scale.jpg|DFR does we refer to "deuterium fusion reactor"]]. Perhaps replusor engine is being used as a descriptor? Not sure if that would make much sense though. It most likely is your last point. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 11:14, 12 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
::Ah, I'd forgotten about that schematic. Given that "repulsor engine" is a proper in-universe term for Covenant-style drives, I doubt it's simply a descriptor. I suspect it's a semi-retcon to make the ''Infinity'''s engines out to be more advanced, though it's not too much of a stretch to assume the deuterium reactors only serve as the power plants rather than expelling their fusion exhaust for thrust like in traditional human drives. It's still surprisingly low-tech seeing as the slipspace drive is apparently powered by a vacuum energy siphon (also per ''Mythos''), but it's possible they couldn't rig that to power the sublight drives since the indication is that they essentially just strapped a Forerunner drive to the ship and are lucky even that works as well as it does. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 13:08, 12 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::The difference can be as simple as in a car example as the gasoline and the engine. The fusion reactor may just be what powers the alien-inspired repulsor engine. As for the grouping, I thinkk the categories are just main sublight engine and slipspace drive, whatever their technological origin. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 18:47, 12 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
== image is too small == | |||
Can we make the dimensions larger?[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 03:59, 10 December 2016 (EST) | |||
== Infinity's cannons == | |||
It's described that the UNSC Infinity sports four super-heavy MACs, but why does she feature a fifth barrel modelled at the front section? Is there a reason for this, or is it just a modelling error? --[[User:Shadow-Hunter|Shadow-Hunter]]. (talk) 09:33, 12 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
: | :The latter. That error is fixed in ''Halo 5''. --[[User:Dr Mutran|They're coming. They're hungry.]] ([[User talk:Dr Mutran|talk]]) 11:22, 12 March 2017 (EDT) | ||
==Waterproof== | |||
I can'r believe we are actually having this conversation, but it must be said that it is extremely silly to say the Infinity is waterproof. What does that even mean? Ken was just answering a question and was overthinking it and thinking about how the internal systems of any ship would respond to any leak in its water supply. If someone wants to artfully explain what he actually said, Okay. Don't just say "The infinity is waterproof". Come on now, lol.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 23:33, 17 January 2018 (EST)TheEld | |||
:Yeah, this is silly. I can tell you the notion of its 'waterproofness' was not a topic of discussion during Warfleet production. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 11:30, 18 January 2018 (EST) | |||
Here. https://youtu.be/aE_O_it1Q5k?t=4530. [[User:AlertFiend|AlertFiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 21:58, 18 January 2018 (EST) | |||
==Crew counts== | |||
I noted something curious. And I am "guessing" that the Halo 4 booklet that had numbers only applies in February 2558. And isnt accurate in Late 2558 which we may have gotten numbers for in Halo Warfleet. | |||
*Halo 4 Thornes book (February 2558) | |||
**Total Crew: 17,151 | |||
**Naval - 8954, Marine - 6021, Intelligence - 1699, Civilian - 477 | |||
*Halo Warfleet (Late 2558 Refit?) | |||
**Total Crew: 18,262 (Spartans not included) | |||
**Navy - 8900, ONI - 1700, UEG - 480, Swords of Sangheilios - 24, Special Assets - 8 | |||
**Marines - 5400, Spartans - [REDACTED], Army - 800, ODST - 750, Air Force 200 | |||
Regardless I am hoping to at least get this out there so its written down.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 10:51, 19 March 2018 (EDT) | |||
:You're right to note the difference between when ''Infinity'' issued Thorne's booklet and the end of Halo 5/Warfleet data; there is an update in between. For the Spartans, I don't know that they are a permanent presence (at least not all of them) but I suspect they are rotated in and out on a mission-by-mission basis as needed. I do have the 'redacted' Spartan count, but unfortunately I'm not at liberty to say until 343i divulges it. I'm glad to see the Spartan count range that was listed yesterday has been removed....I was going to write here that the source should be cited. - [[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 12:00, 19 March 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Original purpose? == | |||
I've heard from a few YouTube videos that the point of originally building the Infinity (and the Eternity) was as a lifeboat for humanity in case there was ultimately no way found to win the war with the Covenant. Is there any canonical evidence for this, and if so, how reasonably effective could it be at such a role? Is ~17k enough to effectively start humanity over? (Assuming both ships were completed conventionally without any of the tech captured and incorporated post-war and then sent off in seperate directions.) | |||
: Here, in this article called [[Project OUROBOROS]], mentioned in the book ''[[Halo: Warfleet – An Illustrated Guide to the Spacecraft of Halo|Halo: Warfleet]]''. --[[User:Dr Mutran|They're coming. They're hungry.]] ([[User talk:Dr Mutran|talk]]) 00:55, June 17, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:: They might have been able to stuff a lot of people in the ship's cargo bays if they were kept in portable cryotubes, which would retain a lot of the genetic diversity without having to feed them. But it doesn't necessarily exclude any other ships being reassigned to carry additional people alongside the ''Infinity'', either. [[Special:Contributions/Sev40|<font color="red">'''ERROR 343''': Requested database has been </font>]][[User:Sev|<font color="#00e6e6">'''''Sev'''''</font>]][[User talk:Sev|<font color="#ffcc00">'''ered'''</font>]] 03:31, June 17, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== [Redacted] Spartans == | |||
SCP reference ?! [[Special:Contributions/95.55.216.151|95.55.216.151]] 02:27, July 1, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:SCP didn't invent the use of the term redacted. [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 07:53, July 1, 2019 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 06:53, July 1, 2019
Drives[edit]
Mythos (p132) says the ship has repulsor engines. H4 EVG identifies them as "XR2 Boglin Fields: S81/X-DFR". Assuming DFR refers to "deuterium fusion reactor" (which we have assumed so far) it seems somewhat out of place for engines so technologically different to be grouped in the same category as humanity's more conventional fusion thrusters. In all fairness, it could be that the engines use repulsor technology and only derive their power from deuterium-deuterium reactors, while the "X" before the "DFR" could indicate "experimental" or "xeno" or something similar. --Jugus (talk) 02:53, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
- Yeah, DFR does we refer to "deuterium fusion reactor". Perhaps replusor engine is being used as a descriptor? Not sure if that would make much sense though. It most likely is your last point. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 11:14, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
- Ah, I'd forgotten about that schematic. Given that "repulsor engine" is a proper in-universe term for Covenant-style drives, I doubt it's simply a descriptor. I suspect it's a semi-retcon to make the Infinity's engines out to be more advanced, though it's not too much of a stretch to assume the deuterium reactors only serve as the power plants rather than expelling their fusion exhaust for thrust like in traditional human drives. It's still surprisingly low-tech seeing as the slipspace drive is apparently powered by a vacuum energy siphon (also per Mythos), but it's possible they couldn't rig that to power the sublight drives since the indication is that they essentially just strapped a Forerunner drive to the ship and are lucky even that works as well as it does. --Jugus (talk) 13:08, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
- The difference can be as simple as in a car example as the gasoline and the engine. The fusion reactor may just be what powers the alien-inspired repulsor engine. As for the grouping, I thinkk the categories are just main sublight engine and slipspace drive, whatever their technological origin. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 18:47, 12 October 2016 (EDT)
image is too small[edit]
Can we make the dimensions larger?Editorguy (talk) 03:59, 10 December 2016 (EST)
Infinity's cannons[edit]
It's described that the UNSC Infinity sports four super-heavy MACs, but why does she feature a fifth barrel modelled at the front section? Is there a reason for this, or is it just a modelling error? --Shadow-Hunter. (talk) 09:33, 12 March 2017 (EDT)
- The latter. That error is fixed in Halo 5. --They're coming. They're hungry. (talk) 11:22, 12 March 2017 (EDT)
Waterproof[edit]
I can'r believe we are actually having this conversation, but it must be said that it is extremely silly to say the Infinity is waterproof. What does that even mean? Ken was just answering a question and was overthinking it and thinking about how the internal systems of any ship would respond to any leak in its water supply. If someone wants to artfully explain what he actually said, Okay. Don't just say "The infinity is waterproof". Come on now, lol.TheEld (talk) 23:33, 17 January 2018 (EST)TheEld
- Yeah, this is silly. I can tell you the notion of its 'waterproofness' was not a topic of discussion during Warfleet production. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 11:30, 18 January 2018 (EST)
Here. https://youtu.be/aE_O_it1Q5k?t=4530. AlertFiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 21:58, 18 January 2018 (EST)
Crew counts[edit]
I noted something curious. And I am "guessing" that the Halo 4 booklet that had numbers only applies in February 2558. And isnt accurate in Late 2558 which we may have gotten numbers for in Halo Warfleet.
- Halo 4 Thornes book (February 2558)
- Total Crew: 17,151
- Naval - 8954, Marine - 6021, Intelligence - 1699, Civilian - 477
- Halo Warfleet (Late 2558 Refit?)
- Total Crew: 18,262 (Spartans not included)
- Navy - 8900, ONI - 1700, UEG - 480, Swords of Sangheilios - 24, Special Assets - 8
- Marines - 5400, Spartans - [REDACTED], Army - 800, ODST - 750, Air Force 200
Regardless I am hoping to at least get this out there so its written down.-CIA391 (talk) 10:51, 19 March 2018 (EDT)
- You're right to note the difference between when Infinity issued Thorne's booklet and the end of Halo 5/Warfleet data; there is an update in between. For the Spartans, I don't know that they are a permanent presence (at least not all of them) but I suspect they are rotated in and out on a mission-by-mission basis as needed. I do have the 'redacted' Spartan count, but unfortunately I'm not at liberty to say until 343i divulges it. I'm glad to see the Spartan count range that was listed yesterday has been removed....I was going to write here that the source should be cited. - ScaleMaster117 (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2018 (EDT)
Original purpose?[edit]
I've heard from a few YouTube videos that the point of originally building the Infinity (and the Eternity) was as a lifeboat for humanity in case there was ultimately no way found to win the war with the Covenant. Is there any canonical evidence for this, and if so, how reasonably effective could it be at such a role? Is ~17k enough to effectively start humanity over? (Assuming both ships were completed conventionally without any of the tech captured and incorporated post-war and then sent off in seperate directions.)
- Here, in this article called Project OUROBOROS, mentioned in the book Halo: Warfleet. --They're coming. They're hungry. (talk) 00:55, June 17, 2019 (EDT)
- They might have been able to stuff a lot of people in the ship's cargo bays if they were kept in portable cryotubes, which would retain a lot of the genetic diversity without having to feed them. But it doesn't necessarily exclude any other ships being reassigned to carry additional people alongside the Infinity, either. ERROR 343: Requested database has been Severed 03:31, June 17, 2019 (EDT)
[Redacted] Spartans[edit]
SCP reference ?! 95.55.216.151 02:27, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
- SCP didn't invent the use of the term redacted. BaconShelf (talk) 07:53, July 1, 2019 (EDT)