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==Grav==
I thought that was a grav reversed from pulling upwards to pushing downward at maximum power. Also was'nt that an assault carrier? [[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 19:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)--Halo3
I thought that was a grav reversed from pulling upwards to pushing downward at maximum power. Also was'nt that an assault carrier? [[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 19:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)--Halo3
:What are you talking about? -[[User:ED|ED]] 04:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? -[[User:ED|ED]] 04:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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I think, this being off topic, that Regret didnt want the Sangheili to be betrayed. I think he wanted to have them stay. Thats why he went to Earth with a small fleet. To show the Sangheili's Strength. And the two other prophets had him killed because he wouldnt agree with them. So if this is true, I think even if otherwise. The Prophet of Regret is the Best Covenant Leader among the Prophets.
I think, this being off topic, that Regret didnt want the Sangheili to be betrayed. I think he wanted to have them stay. Thats why he went to Earth with a small fleet. To show the Sangheili's Strength. And the two other prophets had him killed because he wouldnt agree with them. So if this is true, I think even if otherwise. The Prophet of Regret is the Best Covenant Leader among the Prophets.


 
:On this notion. The article states that several Phantoms swept in to retrieve Regret. However, the temple he was in was glassed. Why is there no mention of that?[[Special:Contributions/198.248.15.207|198.248.15.207]] 02:32, 12 November 2013 (EST)


In my opinion though, Mercy is. He is the least anti-human of the trio. His last words (This time, none of you will be left behind) meant, with my interpretation, that he belived that humans were worthy of the great journey, after seeing how Truth betrayed him. Back on topic, he died when The Gravemind died.  [[User talk:Foop46|Foop46]] 01:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
In my opinion though, Mercy is. He is the least anti-human of the trio. His last words (This time, none of you will be left behind) meant, with my interpretation, that he belived that humans were worthy of the great journey, after seeing how Truth betrayed him. Back on topic, he died when The Gravemind died.  [[User talk:Foop46|Foop46]] 01:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


He meant no humans will be left alive.--[[User talk:Roberthaha|Roberthaha]] 17:20, 12 February 2011 (EST)
:He meant no humans will be left alive.--[[User talk:Roberthaha|Roberthaha]] 17:20, 12 February 2011 (EST)


== Popularity==
== Popularity==
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:Officially, Regret did have children. Biologically he didn't. Regret was able to become a hierarch because of a scandal, in which another prophet was not supposed to be allowed to breed but did anyway. Regret agreed to claim that these children were his in order to spare the other prophet punishment, and in exchange he was made hierarch.--[[User talk:Rusty-112|Rusty-112]] 21:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:Officially, Regret did have children. Biologically he didn't. Regret was able to become a hierarch because of a scandal, in which another prophet was not supposed to be allowed to breed but did anyway. Regret agreed to claim that these children were his in order to spare the other prophet punishment, and in exchange he was made hierarch.--[[User talk:Rusty-112|Rusty-112]] 21:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


::Its never stated that he accepted that offer. Only that it was made - and that Regret's counter-offer was that the Hierarch in question step down in exchange for Regret not ''telling'' anyone about the child. Its never stated what actually happened to the child. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Its never stated that he accepted that offer. Only that it was made - and that Regret's counter-offer was that the Hierarch in question step down in exchange for Regret not ''telling'' anyone about the child. Its never stated what actually happened to the child. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 09:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


:::It's pretty strongly implied that Regret took credit for the offspring. On pg. 263 of Contact Harvest the Minister of Fortitude (Truth) wishes him congratulations, to which he replies "If I hear that one more time, I shall scream. It's not as if I ''made'' the bastards." He was also covered in garlands and rings, and it's implied that he had just come from some sort of party/ceremony celebrating the birth of "his" children. In a society where very few children were born, keeping the births a secret would have been virtually impossible.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|18px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">Rusty</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">-</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">112</font>]] 18:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It's pretty strongly implied that Regret took credit for the offspring. On pg. 263 of Contact Harvest the Minister of Fortitude (Truth) wishes him congratulations, to which he replies "If I hear that one more time, I shall scream. It's not as if I ''made'' the bastards." He was also covered in garlands and rings, and it's implied that he had just come from some sort of party/ceremony celebrating the birth of "his" children. In a society where very few children were born, keeping the births a secret would have been virtually impossible.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|18px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">Rusty</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">-</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">112</font>]] 18:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
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Can I ask something? Regret and the Gravemind were on Installation 05. For them to be dead, they'd have to have been effected by the second Installation 04 firing. How is that possible when they were both on two different Halos?[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 11:18, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Can I ask something? Regret and the Gravemind were on Installation 05. For them to be dead, they'd have to have been effected by the second Installation 04 firing. How is that possible when they were both on two different Halos?[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 11:18, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
They were both on 05, and Regret was killed by the master chief. [[User:Halofan1234|"A Penny saved is a Penny earned"]]  11:22, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, I mean after he came back to life as part of the Gravemind. It says on the article the Gravemind and Regret both died, but where's the proof of that?[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 11:40, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
::Regret was assassinated by John in October and his body recovered and reanimated by the Gravemind. What was left of Regret would have been destroyed when High Charity's reactor destabilized.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 12:05, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
:::But High Charity has moved away from Installation 05 when it went through the portal. The Gravemind (which Regret is part of) can transmit it's voice anywhere, but the only place we've really seen it is on 05.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 19:58, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
::::The Gravemind used the ring's teleportation system to reach High Charity as shown in Halo 2's epilogue. Halo 3's 'Cortana' shows the Gravemind's tentacles moving around at the end, confirming its presence on the Ark.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 02:50, 24 June 2011 (EDT)
==Assimilation==
Ok boys and girls, I have a question?  How exactly did the Gravemind manage to assimilate Regret, when his body was incinerated moments after his death when the Covenant fleet glassed the temple?  The Covenant ships destroyed that entire temple trying to kill Chief.  Wouldn't the total vaporization of the structure (and thus, the corpse) make it pretty tough to assimilate Regret?  Should this be considered a plothole, or does someone have a convenient explanation?
[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 21:07, 4 December 2011 (EST)
:He probably just made that body out of Flood biomass to help convince Thel. Vegerot goes RAWR!  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:14, 4 December 2011 (EST)!
The Covenant would value the body of a Hierarch. Possibly they may have retrieved it themselves then Gravemind went and stole it from them. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:15, 4 December 2011 (EST)
:No.  You see them destroy the ruins and everything in it.  It makes a lot more sense that the Gravemind created his body out of pure Flood biomass to convince the Supreme Commander to join them. Vegerot goes RAWR!  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  22:19, 4 December 2011 (EST)!
So they did it during the time it took Chief to exit the temple. That, or they used a gravity lift to pull the body up. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:53, 4 December 2011 (EST)
:But the whole point of destroying the place was to make sure that Regret was dead, if he had somehow managed to stay alive.  And also to kill John.  Vegerot goes RAWR!  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  23:18, 4 December 2011 (EST)!
It was the ''Solemn Penance'' itself that was attacking John, so it would still be under Regret's command. Truth's response to Regret being attacked was actually the reverse: pulling away troops from Regret's location, therefore he wouldn't have been able to take command of the ship, without his troops there. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:31, 4 December 2011 (EST)
==Regret in ''Halo Wars'': Escape?==
Hey, just wondering, how did Regret escape the destruction of Shield World 0459? Was he able to leave in that unnamed CPV-class Heavy Destroyer, or was that destroyed in the fight against the UNSC ''Spirit of Fire''? It isn't fully explained how he survived the events of ''Halo Wars''. So, what are the details of his escape? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 22:39, 5 March 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330
:He left the Shield World and returned to High Charity when they learned the Spirit of Fire had followed them. It was Ripa who ordered the honor guards to take him home.[[User:Forgotten Helljumper|<span style="color:red">Forgotten Helljumper</span>]] 23:34, 5 March 2014 (EST)
::I'm pretty confident that he was on that CPV-class heavy destroyer. Had the Spirit of Fire managed to destroy it we no doubt would have gotten a cutscene show it.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 09:29, 6 March 2014 (EST)

Latest revision as of 06:20, July 2, 2019

Grav[edit]

I thought that was a grav reversed from pulling upwards to pushing downward at maximum power. Also was'nt that an assault carrier? Halo3 19:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)--Halo3

What are you talking about? -ED 04:30, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Why is there a Human skull imbedded into Regret?

in regret you can flip over the thrown and regret will fall out and he'll just sit on the ground for a few seconds then he teleports away.but you can't drive the THROWN!.Spec ops commander 05:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Shadow of Intent[edit]

The Prophet of Regrets ship could have been captured by the elites being it was holding over the ring. It would make sense being that 'Vadum would have had access to it. Councilor 'Rumilee 22:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Death[edit]

As far as I'm aware, there is not any confirmation of Regret's death. Nemesis645 14:29, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

he had his face punched in by a SPARTAN-II and then the building he was in got totaly demolished with him in it.Maiar 11:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

I think, this being off topic, that Regret didnt want the Sangheili to be betrayed. I think he wanted to have them stay. Thats why he went to Earth with a small fleet. To show the Sangheili's Strength. And the two other prophets had him killed because he wouldnt agree with them. So if this is true, I think even if otherwise. The Prophet of Regret is the Best Covenant Leader among the Prophets.

On this notion. The article states that several Phantoms swept in to retrieve Regret. However, the temple he was in was glassed. Why is there no mention of that?198.248.15.207 02:32, 12 November 2013 (EST)

In my opinion though, Mercy is. He is the least anti-human of the trio. His last words (This time, none of you will be left behind) meant, with my interpretation, that he belived that humans were worthy of the great journey, after seeing how Truth betrayed him. Back on topic, he died when The Gravemind died. Foop46 01:20, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

He meant no humans will be left alive.--Roberthaha 17:20, 12 February 2011 (EST)

Popularity[edit]

it seems bungie kinda favors him and it's awesome that regret is getting a lot of apperances throughout halo media in including halo 2,2 books and halo wars.

Say What?[edit]

With the Gravity Thrones I am rather sure that the Arbiter isn't that much taller than the Prophet of Truth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-BT4F7EyyM

Children?[edit]

Did Regret have children, cause I recall him being angered due to being repeatedly congratulated over a male and female. The page is 282-283 in Halo: Contact Harvest. Dark Ridley 20:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Officially, Regret did have children. Biologically he didn't. Regret was able to become a hierarch because of a scandal, in which another prophet was not supposed to be allowed to breed but did anyway. Regret agreed to claim that these children were his in order to spare the other prophet punishment, and in exchange he was made hierarch.--Rusty-112 21:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Its never stated that he accepted that offer. Only that it was made - and that Regret's counter-offer was that the Hierarch in question step down in exchange for Regret not telling anyone about the child. Its never stated what actually happened to the child. -- Administrator Specops306 - Qur'a 'Morhek Honour Light Your Way! 09:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
It's pretty strongly implied that Regret took credit for the offspring. On pg. 263 of Contact Harvest the Minister of Fortitude (Truth) wishes him congratulations, to which he replies "If I hear that one more time, I shall scream. It's not as if I made the bastards." He was also covered in garlands and rings, and it's implied that he had just come from some sort of party/ceremony celebrating the birth of "his" children. In a society where very few children were born, keeping the births a secret would have been virtually impossible.--Emblem 1.jpgRusty-112 18:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Rockets?[edit]

On Regret's Halopedia page it says that two rockets are enough to kill him in Halo 2. Does this really work? Cuz I tried it on Heroic, and although he cried out and bled, 5 rockets weren't enough to kill him. Do rockets only work on lower difficulties, or is that page just an error? Can anyone confirm this?--Rusty-112 21:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay so I just played through the level "Regret" on EASY, and not only did TWO rockets not kill him, SIX didn't. In fact, even though he cried out and bled, it made no difference in the number of times you had to board him and hit him. Somebody has 3 days to prove me wrong, otherwise I'm changing the page. --Rusty-112 01:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

well I cant show you but it has happened to me.I had only 2 rockets left so I wasted them on him and climbed aboard and he died...--Sangheili wunna be 16:53, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

?[edit]

The Prophet of Regret had a an addiction to alcoholism? What? —This unsigned comment was made by Sentinal (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

The alcohol is probably misinterpreting a scene in Halo: Contact Harvest, where he threw back a few during a the Birthing Period. I believe that was mostly because he was getting tired of being told "Congratulations". However, the smoking thing is legit, from Halo: The Cole Protocol, where he smokes before battle and then enjoys a few more back in High Charity. -- SFH 19:04, 18 November 2010 (EST)

Was He Killed?[edit]

Can I ask something? Regret and the Gravemind were on Installation 05. For them to be dead, they'd have to have been effected by the second Installation 04 firing. How is that possible when they were both on two different Halos?Fairfieldfencer FFF 11:18, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

They were both on 05, and Regret was killed by the master chief. "A Penny saved is a Penny earned" 11:22, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

Yeah, I mean after he came back to life as part of the Gravemind. It says on the article the Gravemind and Regret both died, but where's the proof of that?Fairfieldfencer FFF 11:40, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
Regret was assassinated by John in October and his body recovered and reanimated by the Gravemind. What was left of Regret would have been destroyed when High Charity's reactor destabilized.-- Forerunner 12:05, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
But High Charity has moved away from Installation 05 when it went through the portal. The Gravemind (which Regret is part of) can transmit it's voice anywhere, but the only place we've really seen it is on 05.Fairfieldfencer FFF 19:58, 23 June 2011 (EDT)
The Gravemind used the ring's teleportation system to reach High Charity as shown in Halo 2's epilogue. Halo 3's 'Cortana' shows the Gravemind's tentacles moving around at the end, confirming its presence on the Ark.-- Forerunner 02:50, 24 June 2011 (EDT)

Assimilation[edit]

Ok boys and girls, I have a question? How exactly did the Gravemind manage to assimilate Regret, when his body was incinerated moments after his death when the Covenant fleet glassed the temple? The Covenant ships destroyed that entire temple trying to kill Chief. Wouldn't the total vaporization of the structure (and thus, the corpse) make it pretty tough to assimilate Regret? Should this be considered a plothole, or does someone have a convenient explanation?

Spartan 501 21:07, 4 December 2011 (EST)

He probably just made that body out of Flood biomass to help convince Thel. Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 21:14, 4 December 2011 (EST)!

The Covenant would value the body of a Hierarch. Possibly they may have retrieved it themselves then Gravemind went and stole it from them. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 22:15, 4 December 2011 (EST)

No. You see them destroy the ruins and everything in it. It makes a lot more sense that the Gravemind created his body out of pure Flood biomass to convince the Supreme Commander to join them. Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 22:19, 4 December 2011 (EST)!

So they did it during the time it took Chief to exit the temple. That, or they used a gravity lift to pull the body up. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 22:53, 4 December 2011 (EST)

But the whole point of destroying the place was to make sure that Regret was dead, if he had somehow managed to stay alive. And also to kill John. Vegerot goes RAWR! Vegerot (talk) 23:18, 4 December 2011 (EST)!

It was the Solemn Penance itself that was attacking John, so it would still be under Regret's command. Truth's response to Regret being attacked was actually the reverse: pulling away troops from Regret's location, therefore he wouldn't have been able to take command of the ship, without his troops there. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 23:31, 4 December 2011 (EST)

Regret in Halo Wars: Escape?[edit]

Hey, just wondering, how did Regret escape the destruction of Shield World 0459? Was he able to leave in that unnamed CPV-class Heavy Destroyer, or was that destroyed in the fight against the UNSC Spirit of Fire? It isn't fully explained how he survived the events of Halo Wars. So, what are the details of his escape? --Xamikaze330 [Transmission|Commencing] 22:39, 5 March 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330

He left the Shield World and returned to High Charity when they learned the Spirit of Fire had followed them. It was Ripa who ordered the honor guards to take him home.Forgotten Helljumper 23:34, 5 March 2014 (EST)
I'm pretty confident that he was on that CPV-class heavy destroyer. Had the Spirit of Fire managed to destroy it we no doubt would have gotten a cutscene show it.Sith-venator Wavingstrider Fett helmet.jpg (Commlink) 09:29, 6 March 2014 (EST)