Talk:MP-class Mjolnir

MP Spartan?

I can't understand why on earth any Spartan in a full Mjolnir Mk. V(b) suit would ever be required to perform Military Police duty. On top of that, why are special armor attachments used? Especially ones that are said to be "standard" in both Inner Colony and Outer Colony Beta-5 units? To make things further confusing is the helmet or chest piece description, which states that the armor is used by Military Police officers in all branches of the military.

All indications point to the implication that a sh*t-ton of people wear this armor. It's even more likely referring to all UNSC MP officers in general. According to the stated abundance of the head parts at least, it would imply that at least the helmet (and available attachments) can be used by any MP soldier/marine with probably a standard combat BDU (much like how the ODST helmet was interchangeble among suits), and that the chest piece and shoulders are modified or newly created to be attached to the MJOLNIR Mark V(b). For all we know, they may have originally been attachments to standard Marine armor and later modified for MJOLNIR use.--Nerfherder1428 02:51, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

This is what I was thinking. It's likely that many of the MJOLNIR permutations such as this one are normally used by units other than the Spartans, and were originally created for other armor systems. They're simply compatible with MJOLNIR. The ODST helmet in Halo 3 is a good example of this, and the "MP" variant may well be a similar case. This is why the article title (MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/MP variant) is a bit misleading since it's likely it's not actually a MJOLNIR variant at all, just compatible with it. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 05:52, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly. You worded what I was trying to say much better. It's kind of like the HAYABUSA armor, which started as its own PAA system, but was later modified and incorporated to be an attachment to the MJOLNIR Mk VI. It would seem that almost any common and uncommon armor systems could be modified and/or incorporated as a Mjolnir attachment, which actually gives great credit to the modularity of the system. --Nerfherder1428 08:29, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

I think you're forgetting how many S-IIIs there are, which number at least 300 per company. Given that they're under the direct command of Beta-5, I think it's not impossible that the higher-ups would keep a squad or two around for security purposes. After all, can you think of a more effective security force than eight or twelve highly-trained Spartans?

Not that I disagree with your assessment of the modularity, mind. Most of the pieces are probably interchangeable between normal and MJOLNIR helmets, but the description itself identifies it as a MJOLNIR project. So the helmet itself is probably Spartan-exclusive, but the extras are common. --Jimmy-San 23:48, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

The Armory description says it's a "shared asset" with Beta-5 security, which most likely means about the same I said before. That is, it is a Military Police helmet, converted into a MJOLNIR permutation. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 07:14, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

I think they simply copied the design. Converting an already built helmet into a MJOLNIR system looks impractical compared to simply copying it. Look at Recon. It was an ODST armour that Project: MJOLNIR duplicated for recon-related tasks. All forces have MPs anyway.-- Forerunner 08:13, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Actually Jimmy-San, you must remember that every single S-III in those companies (save those select few chosen for Noble Team and the Headhunter program) were wearing SPI Mk.I and Mk.II armor, not MJOLNIR. So no, there's still only a handful of Spartans (30-45) that wear MJOLNIR. Plus, though they would be incredibly badass, relegating highly trained supersoldiers to military police duty would be a complete waste of time, money, and resources. You must remember that a fully-equipped Spartan cost more credits than a small starship. Forget the rank, nobody would be able to afford to pull these soldiers off the front lines for personal protection.

And the helmet can't be Spartan exclusive. The helmet and its attachments are the one things that specifically mention being used by Military Police in all branches. In fact, that certainly could be the only commonality that normal MPs have with this Mjolnir variant. And though Mjolnir has shown in the past to be compatible with unrelated helmets (ODST helmet), I agree with Forerunner that just like the Recon systems for ODST and MJOLNIR were slightly different for the two different types of suits, the MP MJOLNIR variant may have only a copied design similar to the infantry MP bdu. And like I said above, the helmets are the one things that would be identical for sure. --Nerfherder1428 02:41, May 11, 2010 (UTC)