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The '''LAU-65D/SGM-151'''<ref>http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/halo3.aspx</ref>, also known as the '''Missile Pod''', is a portable [[United Nations Space Command]] infantry weapon. It is a missile-launching weapon, and holds up to eight small, highly explosive missiles when released from its tripod.  The Missile Pod is capable of locking onto vehicle or turret position targets. <ref>[http://www.bungie.net/content.aspx?link=h3betaWeapons ''Halo 3 Beta'' Guide]</ref><ref>[http://www.xboxygen.com/index.php?file=Gallery&op=description&sid=9395&orderby=news# OXM UK</ref>
The '''Launcher Unit-65D/Self-Guided Missile-151'''{{Ref/Reuse|vis}}{{Ref/Reuse|Enc22}} ('''LAU-65D/SGM-151'''),{{Ref/Reuse|Enc11}} also known as the '''Missile Pod''', is a stationary mounted missile launcher manufactured by [[Ushuaia Armory]].{{Ref/Reuse|vis}}{{Ref/Reuse|Enc22}}


Its extreme size and weight means that only a [[Spartan]], [[Sangheili]], or perhaps even a [[Brute]] can operate it free of its tripod.
The weapon is employed in the [[United Nations Space Command]], and has garnered the nickname of "'''The Noisemaker'''" among the personnel assigned to use it.{{Ref/Book|Id=Enc11|Enc11|Page=330}}


== Operation ==
==Overview==
[[File:HTMCC-H3 MissilePod&Stand.png|thumb|left|A Missile Pod detached from its stand.]]
===Design details===
The LAU-65D/SGM-151 missile pod is a predominantly mounted weapon, typically deployed mounted atop a small tripod. When mounted, the launcher faces up at a roughly 45 degree angle. The weapon is capable of being operated by interfacing with an operator's [[heads-up display]], which can be used to select enemy ground and air vehicles for targeting. Once fired, the missile is launched into the air before engaging its automated guidance system and booster - which then track the target's heat signature and deliver the payload in a precision strike from above.{{Ref/Reuse|vis}}{{Ref/Reuse|Enc22}} This allows the weapon to act in a similar capacity to a more conventional [[mortar weapon]].


[[Image:Missile Pod Mounted.jpg|thumb|left|290px|The missile pod can be found mounted on tripods as turrets by the [[UNSC]], but can be dismounted and hefted as a weapon by beings with great strength such as [[Spartans]], [[Elites]], and [[Brutes]].]]
Missile pods are typically fired from a stationary, fixed position, though are capable of being ripped off their stands and hip-fired by personnel strong enough to carry them (such as [[Spartan]]s and [[Sangheili]]).{{Ref/Reuse|vis}}{{Ref/Reuse|Enc11}}{{Ref/Reuse|Enc22}} When fired in this manner, the missile pod's projectiles fire directly into the path of their target, skipping the vertical-launch stage of their operation. They may also be mounted directly for defensive atop static walls, or as part of the armament on vehicles.{{Ref/Reuse|Enc11}}


The mounted version of the [[Missile Pod]], can only be seen in one [[Campaign]] level, [[The Storm (Level)|The Storm]]. When mounted, it has an infinite amount of [[ammo]].
Without a suitable lock-on, the missile pod can be dumb-fired to limited effect. While mounted, this causes the missile to simply fly into the air, while firing it from the hip can allow the missile to be manually aimed at enemy targets.


The Missile Pod can carry eight rounds, equal to the [[Rocket Launcher]], but without the need for reloading.
===Ammunition===
The missile pod fires the [[ASGM-4 missile|M5607 Automatic Self-Guided Missile-4]],{{Ref/Reuse|Enc22}} a heat-seeking, armour-piercing,{{Ref/Reuse|Enc11}} and self-guided high-explosive missile a part of the same series as other larger missiles such as the [[ASGM-7 missile|ASGM-7]], [[ASGM-10 missile|ASGM-10]] and [[ASGM-15 missile|ASGM-15]].{{Ref/Reuse|vis}} The internal magazines in the base of the launcher can hold eight such missiles, which can be rapid-fired in a short amount of time.{{Ref/Reuse|vis}}{{Ref/Reuse|Enc22}}{{Ref/Book|Id=H3Manual|Halo 3 manual|Page=14}}


In its mounted form, the Missile Pod is used by the [[Marines]] as a rocket-powered mortar (by firing its missiles vertically into the sky).  This allows the missiles to hit targets from above, by inflicting maximum damage and leaving less time, for the target to avoid the strike; however, in its mounted form, it can't hit targets on the ground easily.
==Operational history==
[[File:Missile Pod Mounted 2.jpg|thumb|200px|A Marine using a Missile Pod on its tripod.]]
The missile pod was used by [[human]] military forces during the [[Battle for Earth]] in [[2552#|October-November 2552]]. Several such weapons were operated by the [[New Mombasa Police Department]] during the [[Covenant]] occupation of [[New Mombasa]] on October 20, with [[Alpha-Nine]] assisting NMPD personnel in fending off a Covenant air assault on their downed [[D77C-NMPD Pelican]].{{Ref/Level|H3ODST|NMPD HQ}} They were later used by [[UNSC Marine Corps]] forces operating in [[Traxus Factory Complex 09]], [[Voi]], during the [[Battle of Voi]] on November 17. During the battle, several LAU-65Ds were installed around the factory complex and were used by a force led by [[John-117]] to disable and destroy a {{Pattern|Deutoros|Scarab}}.{{Ref/Level|H3|The Storm}}


It is the only weapon in ''[[Halo 3]]'' that can lock onto and track [[vehicles]], taking the ability away from the [[M41 SSR MAV/AW Rocket Launcher]] from [[Halo 2]].
Members of the [[717th Xeno-Materials Exploitation Battalion]]'s Charlie Company used missile pods as part of their deployment into the city of [[Wendosa]], [[Gao]], during [[Operation: JOVIAN WHISTLE]].{{Ref/Novel|LL|Chapter=11}}


Once the missile is fired, it will travel about five meters before becoming self-propelled.
During the [[Carrow Conflict]] in [[2558]], the [[Surakan Militia Volunteers]] used missile pods to defend their city against an attack by the [[Sharquoi]] unleashed by [[Hekabe]]. The creatures proved largely ignorant of the missiles fired at them and were able to shrug off most of the damage dealt.{{Ref/Novel|Env|Chapter=19}}


This, along with the pod's ability to maintain a lock even when there's an obstacle (such as a small hill in [[Valhalla (Level)|Valhalla]]) between the pod and the target, means the wielder can fire at an upward angle, giving the missile enough vertical clearance to fly over the hill and into the target.
==In-game information==
[[File:H3-MissilePodHUD.png|thumb|250px|Using the missile pod in third-person view on [[Sandtrap]] in ''[[Halo 3]]''.]]
===''Halo 3''===
The missile pod was introduced in ''[[Halo 3]]'' as part of the new class of [[Weapon types#Turret|turret weapons]] introduced into the game, alongside the [[AIE-486H machine gun|machine gun turret]], [[Pek-pattern plasma cannon|plasma cannon]], and [[M7057 flamethrower|flamethrower]]. Accordingly, the weapon is used in a third-person view. In the [[campaign]], the weapon appears solely in the level [[The Storm]] encountered twice in the level - the first as a dismounted weapon in the pier structure of the first lakebed next to a dead Marine. This weapon can be used against the {{Pattern|Ogab'd|anti-aircraft Wraith}} and [[Ghost]] vehicles encountered in that section of the level. The second encounter with missile pods comes in the second lakebed of The Storm, with two such weapons deployed by the Marines to help fight off the Scarab. These weapons are turret-mounted, and have an infinite amount of ammunition. They can be used to target the Scarab's legs, turret, and rear power core.


It is also effective against foot-bound stationary targets (such as an enemy sniper); the missile's high speed means that even if the target hears the missile, he or she may not be able to react in time.
In multiplayer, the missile pod fulfils the role of a lock-on missile launcher, similar to the [[Cut Halo: Combat Evolved weapons#Rocket launcher|missile launcher]] cut from ''[[Halo: Combat Evolved]]'' or the standard [[M41 SPNKr]]'s lock-on functionality in ''[[Halo 2]]''. For ''Halo 3'', the SPNKr's lock-on was taken away from the weapon and additionally considered for use in a [[Cut Halo 3 weapons#Missile launcher|separate missile launcher weapon]] which made it as far as alpha testing, though was ultimately scrapped in favour of the missile launcher concept. The missile pod only ever appears in its un-mounted (and thus, limited ammunition) configuration in multiplayer, with the mounted variant being unable to be spawned in [[Forge/Halo 3|Forge mode]]. In rare circumstances, the weapon can be used to recreate the "[[Ring of Rockets]]" trick similar to ''Halo 2''{{'}}s rocket launcher.{{Ref/Site|Id=Beta|URL=http://halo.bungie.net/content.aspx?link=h3betaWeapons|Site=Bungie.net|Page=Halo 3 Beta Guide|D=17|M=01|Y=2021}}


This is most effective at short and medium range, mostly because it is harder to see an enemy at long ranges, much less determining if one is moving.
The missile pod can be used to unlock the [[Too Close to the Sun]] achievement in multiplayer, by killing a [[Banshee]].


One of the best anti-vehicle tactics, is to lock on, aim up in the air, and fire; however, it's low ammo capacity when unmounted means it should be used sparingly.
===''Halo 3: ODST''===
 
The missile pod appears in the ''[[Halo 3: ODST]]'' campaign level [[NMPD HQ]] in the final stage of the mission. Several such weapons are deployed (both mounted and detached) around the Pelican crash site. They have identical gameplay to their ''Halo 3'' incarnation, and can be used to shoot down the incoming [[Banshee]]s and [[Phantom]]s.
Also, on Valhalla, a possible tactic is to carry the missile pod into the [[Man Cannon]] while firing at an enemy.  The enemy will most likely not see you and will die confused.
 
The Missle pod will not always lock on Vehicle for example, if you are 3 meters away from a boulder, the missle pod will turn, but still hit the boulder.
 
==Tactics==
 
The Missile Pod can be a weak weapon against infantry. It typically takes a direct missle hit to kill an opponent with one shot. Quite unlike the Rocket Launcher, its splash damage is confined to a smaller area, making it challenging to use in a one-on-one close quarters fight. The pod is extremely deadly against vehicles, however, and it can be found on the following maps: Valhalla, [[Sandtrap (Level)|Sandtrap]], and [[Construct (Level)|Construct]]. Of course, any player can place it into any map using [[Forge]].
 
On Valhalla, it is capable of destroying [[Banshees]], [[Mongooses]], [[Warthogs]], and [[turrets]].
 
On Construct. the missile pod becomes a powerful infantry weapon because the map's architecture allows for quick kills, making it especially useful for killing the sword wielders or campers at the [[Gravity Lifts]].
 
It is noteworthy to use in a Big Team Slayer match next as a few short missiles can take out a central threat, such as a [[Scorpion]], [[Banshee]], or [[Wraith]] antagonizing your opponents and getting kills for you and your team.
 
'''Note''': When mounted, the missile pod fires into the air.  After acquiring a target, it will home in on it.  Once detached, the missile pod fires in the direction that the player is aiming.
 
*Destruction Table
<BR>-Player-1 Hit
<BR>-[[Hunters]]([[Legendary]])-2 Hits
<BR>-[[Hornets]]-2 Hits
<BR>-[[Banshees]]-2 Hits
<BR>-[[Scorpions]]-4 Hits
<BR>-[[Wraiths]]-4 Hits
<BR>-[[Choppers]]-1 Hit
<BR>-[[Ghosts]]-1 Hit
<BR>-[[Prowlers]]-2 Hits
<BR>-[[Scarabs]]-1 Hit (Required Direct Power Core Hit)
<BR>-[[Warthogs]]/[[Gauss Warthogs]]-2 Hits
<BR>-[[Mongooses]]-1 Hit
 
[[Image:Pockettyk1.png|right|thumb|200px|The missile launched from the pod.]]
 
== Trivia ==
* Missile Pods, are first seen in the campaign on the level "The Storm".
*[[Hornets]] fire couples of what ''appear'' to be Missile Pod missiles as a secondary weapon.
*On [[Heroic]] difficulty, it takes eight rounds of the LAU-65D/SGM-151 to destroy a [[Phantom]]. However, it only takes four missiles to the rear section to destroy it because of the engines going critical which is one of the main reasons for the destruction of a [[Phantom]].
*If you give the Missile Pod to the [[Arbiter]] during single player campaign, he'll be able to track infantry with the Missile Pod.
*While mounted, it has unlimited ammo.
*In multiplayer, there is no tripod mounted form. It can only be found and fired in its unmounted form.
*The LAU-65D/SGM-151's missile is considerably stronger than the M41's refinance.
*The maximum clip size of a Missile Pod can be changed in Forge. However, this has no effect on the weapons actual ammo capacity which is always 8.
*The sign on the top of the Missile Pod reads "bare live wires" like the Spartan Laser.
*The long missile fired from an active Missile Pod, leaves a streaming trail and can be easily spotted from a Banshee, or a Hornet, as its locked on and painted for destruction.
*In The Storm on [[Legendary]], watch out for the Marines on the tripod Missile Pods. If you go onto the upper work deck with the [[Sniper Rifle]], they might kill you with the missile pod. They also might kill you while on the [[Scarab]].
*In [[Halo CE]] there is a map made by fans which incorporates the missile pod, although it is more like a rocket launcher which fires faster than normal, and has a larger clip. There is only a slight difference in the damage between the rocket launcher and the missile pod.
*In multiplayer even if a [[Banshee]] manages to dodge a missile there is still a chance that it will come back around and attempt to hit it again.
*The 151 at the end of its name could be a seven reference, 1+5+1=7.
*You can download a variant of Avalanche which has been modded to include the turreted missile pod which has infinite ammo.
 
Too Close To The Sun, is a Halo 3 multiplayer achievement. It is awarded for destroying a Banshee in either campaign or a ranked multiplayer playlist with a Spartan Laser or Missile Pod. Unlocking this achievement will give you the Scout Body for Spartan Armor Customization. It is represented by a red ten-pointed star with a brown-winged white star.


==Gallery==
==Gallery==
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<gallery>
<gallery>
Image:Missle_pod_angle_2.jpg|Front View
File:H3-Concept-MissilePodMount.jpg|Concept art of various types of the missile pod, from the ''[[Art of Halo 3]]''.
Image:Missle_pod_angle.jpg|Back View
File:H3-MissilePodMount-ScanRender.png|A missile pod still on its tripod mount.
Image:Missile Pod Mounted 2.jpg|Marine using a Missile Pod on its stand.
File:Missile Pod rear.png|The back view of the missile pod.
Image:SpartanSL.JPG|a [[SPARTAN]] manually carrying a missile pod.
File:Missile Pod Profile.png|Profile view of the missile pod.
Image:1215439386 Images.jpeg
File:H3 MarineMissilePod Screenshot 1.png|A Marine operating a LAU-65D during the Battle of Voi.
File:H3 MarineMissilePod Screenshot 2.png|A Marine firing a LAU-65D during the Battle of Voi.
File:H3 MissilePod Transparent.png|A Spartan pointing a missile pod upwards.
File:MJOLNIR Mk.VI Powered Assault Armor (EVA).jpg|An [[EVA-class Mjolnir|EVA-clad]] Spartan holding the missile pod.
File:HTMCC-H3 Soldier Body.jpg|A [[SOLDIER-class Mjolnir|Soldier-clad]] Spartan holding the missile pod.
File:Missile pod.JPG|A Banshee being tracked by multiple missiles.
File:H3-MissilePodRocket.png|In-game preview of a rocket launched from the Missile Pod in ''Halo 3''.
File:Pockettyk1.png|The missile launched from the pod.
File:Missle to rocket.JPG|A  missile pod's ASGM-4 missile (top) compared with an M41 SPNKr's [[M19 missile]] (lower).
File:HTMCC-H3ODST Missile Pods.jpg|[[Taylor Miles|Dutch]] on a stationary missile pod while [[Kojo Agu|Romeo]] is carrying a detached missile pod.
File:HTMCC-H3ODST Romeo&Missile 1.jpg|Romeo firing a missile pod from its tripod.
File:Missle Pod Reticle.jpg|A HUD view of the LAU-65D/SGM-151 in ''[[Halo 3: ODST]]''.
File:SGM-151-ODST.jpg|A detached LAU-65D/SGM-151 firing a missile in ''Halo 3: ODST''.
</gallery>
</gallery>


== Sources ==  
==List of appearances==
<references/>
*''[[Halo 3]]'' {{1st}}
 
*''[[Halo 3: ODST]]''
<br clear="all">
*''[[Halo: Last Light]]'' {{Mo}}
{{WepList}}
*''[[Halo: Envoy]]''


== Sources ==
{{Ref/Sources}}


[[Category:UNSC]]
{{UNSC support weapons}}
[[Category:Weapons]]
[[Category:Artillery]]
[[Category:Held Weapons]]
[[Category:Missiles]]
[[Category:Human Weapons]]

Latest revision as of 06:23, March 29, 2024

LAU-65D/SGM-151
Missile Pod front.png
Production overview

Manufacturer:

Ushuaia Armory[1][2]

Type:

Missile launcher

Specifications

Length:

202 centimeters (79.7 in)[1]

Ammunition type:

M5607 ASGM-4 missiles[2]

Rate of fire:

Semi-automatic[1][3][2]

Service history

In service:

Human-Covenant War
Post-Covenant War conflicts

 

The Launcher Unit-65D/Self-Guided Missile-151[1][2] (LAU-65D/SGM-151),[3] also known as the Missile Pod, is a stationary mounted missile launcher manufactured by Ushuaia Armory.[1][2]

The weapon is employed in the United Nations Space Command, and has garnered the nickname of "The Noisemaker" among the personnel assigned to use it.[3]

Overview[edit]

A LAU-65D/SGM-151 missile pod detached from its stand during the Battle of Kenya. From Halo 3 campaign level The Storm.
A Missile Pod detached from its stand.

Design details[edit]

The LAU-65D/SGM-151 missile pod is a predominantly mounted weapon, typically deployed mounted atop a small tripod. When mounted, the launcher faces up at a roughly 45 degree angle. The weapon is capable of being operated by interfacing with an operator's heads-up display, which can be used to select enemy ground and air vehicles for targeting. Once fired, the missile is launched into the air before engaging its automated guidance system and booster - which then track the target's heat signature and deliver the payload in a precision strike from above.[1][2] This allows the weapon to act in a similar capacity to a more conventional mortar weapon.

Missile pods are typically fired from a stationary, fixed position, though are capable of being ripped off their stands and hip-fired by personnel strong enough to carry them (such as Spartans and Sangheili).[1][3][2] When fired in this manner, the missile pod's projectiles fire directly into the path of their target, skipping the vertical-launch stage of their operation. They may also be mounted directly for defensive atop static walls, or as part of the armament on vehicles.[3]

Without a suitable lock-on, the missile pod can be dumb-fired to limited effect. While mounted, this causes the missile to simply fly into the air, while firing it from the hip can allow the missile to be manually aimed at enemy targets.

Ammunition[edit]

The missile pod fires the M5607 Automatic Self-Guided Missile-4,[2] a heat-seeking, armour-piercing,[3] and self-guided high-explosive missile a part of the same series as other larger missiles such as the ASGM-7, ASGM-10 and ASGM-15.[1] The internal magazines in the base of the launcher can hold eight such missiles, which can be rapid-fired in a short amount of time.[1][2][4]

Operational history[edit]

Another picture of a mounted missile pod. Courtesy of Justin Time.
A Marine using a Missile Pod on its tripod.

The missile pod was used by human military forces during the Battle for Earth in October-November 2552. Several such weapons were operated by the New Mombasa Police Department during the Covenant occupation of New Mombasa on October 20, with Alpha-Nine assisting NMPD personnel in fending off a Covenant air assault on their downed D77C-NMPD Pelican.[5] They were later used by UNSC Marine Corps forces operating in Traxus Factory Complex 09, Voi, during the Battle of Voi on November 17. During the battle, several LAU-65Ds were installed around the factory complex and were used by a force led by John-117 to disable and destroy a Deutoros-pattern Scarab.[6]

Members of the 717th Xeno-Materials Exploitation Battalion's Charlie Company used missile pods as part of their deployment into the city of Wendosa, Gao, during Operation: JOVIAN WHISTLE.[7]

During the Carrow Conflict in 2558, the Surakan Militia Volunteers used missile pods to defend their city against an attack by the Sharquoi unleashed by Hekabe. The creatures proved largely ignorant of the missiles fired at them and were able to shrug off most of the damage dealt.[8]

In-game information[edit]

Using the missile pod in third-person view on Sandtrap in Halo 3.

Halo 3[edit]

The missile pod was introduced in Halo 3 as part of the new class of turret weapons introduced into the game, alongside the machine gun turret, plasma cannon, and flamethrower. Accordingly, the weapon is used in a third-person view. In the campaign, the weapon appears solely in the level The Storm encountered twice in the level - the first as a dismounted weapon in the pier structure of the first lakebed next to a dead Marine. This weapon can be used against the Ogab'd-pattern anti-aircraft Wraith and Ghost vehicles encountered in that section of the level. The second encounter with missile pods comes in the second lakebed of The Storm, with two such weapons deployed by the Marines to help fight off the Scarab. These weapons are turret-mounted, and have an infinite amount of ammunition. They can be used to target the Scarab's legs, turret, and rear power core.

In multiplayer, the missile pod fulfils the role of a lock-on missile launcher, similar to the missile launcher cut from Halo: Combat Evolved or the standard M41 SPNKr's lock-on functionality in Halo 2. For Halo 3, the SPNKr's lock-on was taken away from the weapon and additionally considered for use in a separate missile launcher weapon which made it as far as alpha testing, though was ultimately scrapped in favour of the missile launcher concept. The missile pod only ever appears in its un-mounted (and thus, limited ammunition) configuration in multiplayer, with the mounted variant being unable to be spawned in Forge mode. In rare circumstances, the weapon can be used to recreate the "Ring of Rockets" trick similar to Halo 2's rocket launcher.[9]

The missile pod can be used to unlock the Too Close to the Sun achievement in multiplayer, by killing a Banshee.

Halo 3: ODST[edit]

The missile pod appears in the Halo 3: ODST campaign level NMPD HQ in the final stage of the mission. Several such weapons are deployed (both mounted and detached) around the Pelican crash site. They have identical gameplay to their Halo 3 incarnation, and can be used to shoot down the incoming Banshees and Phantoms.

Gallery[edit]

List of appearances[edit]

Sources[edit]

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i Halo: The Essential Visual Guide, page 125
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i Halo Encyclopedia (2022 edition), page 177
  3. ^ a b c d e f Halo Encyclopedia (2011 edition), page 330
  4. ^ Halo 3 manual, page 14
  5. ^ Halo 3: ODST, campaign level NMPD HQ
  6. ^ Halo 3, campaign level The Storm
  7. ^ Halo: Last Light, chapter 11
  8. ^ Halo: Envoy, chapter 19
  9. ^ Bungie.net, Halo 3 Beta Guide (Retrieved on Jan 17, 2021) [archive]