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Okay, sources have been added to the Jackal and Drone Lance sections (Halo: CE level Silent Cartographer and Halo 2 level Outskirts, respectively), but when does it ever refer to those groups as a Lance? [[User:AlphaPrime|AlphaPrime]] 03:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | Okay, sources have been added to the Jackal and Drone Lance sections (Halo: CE level Silent Cartographer and Halo 2 level Outskirts, respectively), but when does it ever refer to those groups as a Lance? [[User:AlphaPrime|AlphaPrime]] 03:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:More observation than anything else. In those levels, small groups of the enemy can be seen, as well as their behavior and ranks, commanders etc. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 19:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | :More observation than anything else. In those levels, small groups of the enemy can be seen, as well as their behavior and ranks, commanders etc. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 19:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
Sorry ED, I'm with AlphaPrime here. We could pick any random name for this formation, but it doesn't make it true. -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] | Sorry ED, I'm with AlphaPrime here. We could pick any random name for this formation, but it doesn't make it true. -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 07:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
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As this apparently refers to reinforcements, it makes sense to conclude that a Lance consists of [[Elites]] and [[Grunts]]. What is not known is the numbers of either race, or ratio of Elites to Grunts, especially since it was a Spec-Ops mission, there are bound to be more Elites than normal. Also, as this is the only time I personally have heard the term in-game, it is possible that "Lance" is in fact a Spec-Ops term, perhaps even slang (however unlikely in the ultra-formal Covenant society). To me, there is no debate as to the term's existence and what it generally means, but certainly the specifics may need to be beaten out. | As this apparently refers to reinforcements, it makes sense to conclude that a Lance consists of [[Elites]] and [[Grunts]]. What is not known is the numbers of either race, or ratio of Elites to Grunts, especially since it was a Spec-Ops mission, there are bound to be more Elites than normal. Also, as this is the only time I personally have heard the term in-game, it is possible that "Lance" is in fact a Spec-Ops term, perhaps even slang (however unlikely in the ultra-formal Covenant society). To me, there is no debate as to the term's existence and what it generally means, but certainly the specifics may need to be beaten out. | ||
== Lance == | |||
Wait, should'nt we add to the Yamne'e lance section that in Halo 3 ODST There are higher ranking Yamne'e with red or gold armor plating or exoskeleton and they carry Jiralhanae Plasma Rifles. | |||
== What's the point? == | |||
Am I the only one who has noticed that, according to this article, a lance is simply a file plus an Elite or Brute? This Elite/Brute has one file under his control, nothing else. So whats the point of having a file and a lance in they're basically the same thing? The only difference seems to be that the lance is the file plus the leader. So, basically, the leader of the file is nothing more than second in command of the lance. Is this information confirmed by anything other than a player's interpretation of what he/she sees the Covenant doing? The lack of sense in this makes me suspicious. I would think that a lance would contain two or three files, not just one. It should at least have more than just a single file and a leader. [[User talk:Iceman117|Iceman117]] 02:37, July 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== The Picture == | |||
Just curios, what's with the main picture. As far as I can tell, it pretty much contradicts everything that the article says, not to mention is from Halo 3 and has brutes in it. I could be wrong, but by Halo 3 didn't they use the pack-system? --[[User:Raiderdline61|<span style="color:black">Raiderdline61</span>]] [[User talk:Raiderdline61|<span style="color:gray">"7777777"</span>]] 15:50, 30 June 2011 (EDT) | |||
== New Photo == | |||
As has been previously said, I believe a change in main photo is required for this page. As a standard lance consists of several Grunts with an Elite (later a Brute) leader, I believe a photo showing this should replace the current main image. The current image shows a large amount of Ultra Grunts, Jackal Majors and Brutes. This completely goes against the basis of the page. As a result, I would request that a new photo be added, likely from Halo: Reach. If no-body steps up within a few weeks, I may change it myself. [[User:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|SLiD1nG Pr0Xy]] ([[User talk:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|talk]]) 21:08, 28 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
Additionally, the File page also needs a new photo, for it shows several Grunts and Jackals, all at the highest possible rank, which contrasts with the page saying that a File consists of several low ranking Grunts or Jackals, with a higher rank commanding. [[User:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|SLiD1nG Pr0Xy]] ([[User talk:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|talk]]) 21:12, 28 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
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Untitled[edit]
Okay, sources have been added to the Jackal and Drone Lance sections (Halo: CE level Silent Cartographer and Halo 2 level Outskirts, respectively), but when does it ever refer to those groups as a Lance? AlphaPrime 03:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- More observation than anything else. In those levels, small groups of the enemy can be seen, as well as their behavior and ranks, commanders etc. --ED(talk)(shockfront) 19:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry ED, I'm with AlphaPrime here. We could pick any random name for this formation, but it doesn't make it true. -- Manticore File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] Talk | CSV 07:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
The Arbiter Level, Anybody?[edit]
Phantom Pilot (O.S.): "Arbiter, clear the hangar and open this door, so I may drop the second Lance!" ~Transcript, Part 2, Whisper of the Storm, The Arbiter (Level)
As this apparently refers to reinforcements, it makes sense to conclude that a Lance consists of Elites and Grunts. What is not known is the numbers of either race, or ratio of Elites to Grunts, especially since it was a Spec-Ops mission, there are bound to be more Elites than normal. Also, as this is the only time I personally have heard the term in-game, it is possible that "Lance" is in fact a Spec-Ops term, perhaps even slang (however unlikely in the ultra-formal Covenant society). To me, there is no debate as to the term's existence and what it generally means, but certainly the specifics may need to be beaten out.
Lance[edit]
Wait, should'nt we add to the Yamne'e lance section that in Halo 3 ODST There are higher ranking Yamne'e with red or gold armor plating or exoskeleton and they carry Jiralhanae Plasma Rifles.
What's the point?[edit]
Am I the only one who has noticed that, according to this article, a lance is simply a file plus an Elite or Brute? This Elite/Brute has one file under his control, nothing else. So whats the point of having a file and a lance in they're basically the same thing? The only difference seems to be that the lance is the file plus the leader. So, basically, the leader of the file is nothing more than second in command of the lance. Is this information confirmed by anything other than a player's interpretation of what he/she sees the Covenant doing? The lack of sense in this makes me suspicious. I would think that a lance would contain two or three files, not just one. It should at least have more than just a single file and a leader. Iceman117 02:37, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
The Picture[edit]
Just curios, what's with the main picture. As far as I can tell, it pretty much contradicts everything that the article says, not to mention is from Halo 3 and has brutes in it. I could be wrong, but by Halo 3 didn't they use the pack-system? --Raiderdline61 "7777777" 15:50, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
New Photo[edit]
As has been previously said, I believe a change in main photo is required for this page. As a standard lance consists of several Grunts with an Elite (later a Brute) leader, I believe a photo showing this should replace the current main image. The current image shows a large amount of Ultra Grunts, Jackal Majors and Brutes. This completely goes against the basis of the page. As a result, I would request that a new photo be added, likely from Halo: Reach. If no-body steps up within a few weeks, I may change it myself. SLiD1nG Pr0Xy (talk) 21:08, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
Additionally, the File page also needs a new photo, for it shows several Grunts and Jackals, all at the highest possible rank, which contrasts with the page saying that a File consists of several low ranking Grunts or Jackals, with a higher rank commanding. SLiD1nG Pr0Xy (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2014 (EDT)