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==Started letter==
Alright, I started the letter, now we should all review it and make it as perfect as possible before submittiing it.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 05:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I started the letter, now we should all review it and make it as perfect as possible before submittiing it.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 05:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Thats the stuff, should we all put are user names at the bottom ??????????????????? well the people who edit the most. --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 11:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmm, why not? Anyways, good edits. Everyone add your name to the bottom!--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 14:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Put the Halopedia logo on it too as proff its us --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 14:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


Thats the stuff, should we all put are user names at the bottom ??????????????????? well the people who edit the most. --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 11:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
*For future reference people. Please put a comma at the very end of your name, without a space between and between you and the first comma, have a space.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 22:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
Hmm, why not? Anyways, good edits. Everyone add your name to the bottom!--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 14:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
Put the Halopedia logo on it too as proff its us --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 14:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 
For future reference people. Please put a comma at the very end of your name, without a space between and between you and the first comma, have a space.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 22:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:If Bungie doesn't respond, you could also email it to Eric Nylund. ([http://www.ericnylund.net/contact.html www.ericnylund.net]) -[[User:ED|ED]] 01:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:If Bungie doesn't respond, you could also email it to Eric Nylund. ([http://www.ericnylund.net/contact.html www.ericnylund.net]) -[[User:ED|ED]] 01:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 
==Message Sent==
alright, I sent the message! If they dont respond in a month, Ill send it to Nylund.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 06:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
alright, I sent the message! If they dont respond in a month, Ill send it to Nylund.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 06:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
:Good idea --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 18:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


Good idea --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 18:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
==Send to Nyland==


Ok Eric Nyland dosnt have access to the Halo Bible...he wont have the answer. Should I try anyway?--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 05:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok Eric Nyland dosnt have access to the Halo Bible...he wont have the answer. Should I try anyway?--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 05:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
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Well its been weeks and Paul hasnt responded. Can someone email this to Eric for me? I mean considering this was my idea and I wrote this lettter?--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 08:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Well its been weeks and Paul hasnt responded. Can someone email this to Eric for me? I mean considering this was my idea and I wrote this lettter?--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 08:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


"Lord" isnt Hood's actual title, its supposed to be a nick name.--'''[[User:JohnSpartan117|<font color="gold">SPARTAN-117</font>]]'''<sub> 03:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
"Lord" isnt Hood's actual title, its supposed to be a nick name.--'''[[User:JohnSpartan117|<font color=gold>SPARTAN-117</font>]]'''&lt;sub&gt; 03:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
:*Not according to Eric -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 05:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
:*Not according to Eric -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 05:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


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A)As Eric has confirmed there are "Anomalies" with the UNSC ranking system, and until Bungie releases their ranking system ranks that aren't mentioned in the Halo Universe should be deleted.
A)As Eric has confirmed there are "Anomalies" with the UNSC ranking system, and until Bungie releases their ranking system ranks that aren't mentioned in the Halo Universe should be deleted.


B)[[Halopedia:What Halopedia is not|Halopedia is Not a place to store info about present day military ranks]]
B)Halopedia is Not a place to store info about present day military ranks
:*How about we just have articles about the ranks that have been seen in the books and games.?--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 22:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:*How about we just have articles about the ranks that have been seen in the books and games.?--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 22:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::*I agree 100% The following ranks that aren't mentioned in the Halo Universe should be deleted:
::*I agree 100% The following ranks that aren't mentioned in the Halo Universe should be deleted:


:::*[[Lieutenant General]]
:::*Lieutenant General
:::*[[Lieutenant Colonel]]
:::*Lieutenant Colonel
:::*[[Brigadier General]]
:::*Brigadier General
:::*[[Captain(2)]]
:::*Captain(2)
:::*[[First Sergeant]]
:::*First Sergeant


Ok makes sense, lets delete them.--'''[[User:JohnSpartan117|&lt;font color=&quot;gold&quot;&gt;SPARTAN-117&lt;/font&gt;]]'''&lt;sub&gt; 08:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok makes sense, lets delete them.--'''[[User:JohnSpartan117|&lt;font color=&quot;gold&quot;&gt;SPARTAN-117&lt;/font&gt;]]'''&lt;sub&gt; 08:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Where does it say that?--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] 11:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


=="Lord" Hood==
=="Lord" Hood==


I have a possible explanation to what Eric Nylund considers an anomaly in the title of Fleet Admiral Hood. Though I am unaware of the specifics, in present-day U.K., military officers who are knighted are entitled to use the honorif "Sir" or "Lord" in their military title e.g. Sir Admiral Hood/ Lord Admiral Hood. As an American, it is quite likely that Nylund did not know this. The UNSC may not be all American as the rank structure suggests, it may be a blending of cultures (countries). Just a thought. [[User:Manticore|Manticore]] 10:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
I have a possible explanation to what Eric Nylund considers an anomaly in the title of Fleet Admiral Hood. Though I am unaware of the specifics, in present-day U.K., military officers who are knighted are entitled to use the honorif "Sir" or "Lord" in their military title e.g. Sir Admiral Hood/ Lord Admiral Hood. As an American, it is quite likely that Nylund did not know this. The UNSC may not be all American as the rank structure suggests, it may be a blending of cultures (countries). Just a thought. [[User:Manticore|Manticore]] 10:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
:Just realised this idea has been discussed above. Oh well, hope my contribution might shed some light on the issue.Manticore 10:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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Just to clear this up for above mainly "Send to Nyland". Lord is a title it has nothing to do with being Knighted (which some senior British
Officers are)
The easiest way to think of it is similar to being a Barron, Duke or Earl
When knighted Sir becomes a part of your name sort of replacing Mr/Mrs and so on
If you wanted to cram it all in it would be “Fleet Admiral Lord Sir Terrence Hood”
So as he has two British titles he’s probably British
And isn’t it obvious that the United Nations Space Command would include more than just America? --[[User:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Red">Climax-Void</span></b>]] File:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Climax Viod|<b><span style="color: Black">Chat</span></b>]] or [[Special:Contributions/Climax_Viod|<b><span style="color: Silver">My Contributions </span></b>]]</sup>

Latest revision as of 20:05, October 29, 2020

Started letter[edit]

Alright, I started the letter, now we should all review it and make it as perfect as possible before submittiing it.--JohnSpartan117 05:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Thats the stuff, should we all put are user names at the bottom ??????????????????? well the people who edit the most. --Climax Viod 11:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, why not? Anyways, good edits. Everyone add your name to the bottom!--JohnSpartan117 14:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Put the Halopedia logo on it too as proff its us --Climax Viod 14:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • For future reference people. Please put a comma at the very end of your name, without a space between and between you and the first comma, have a space.--JohnSpartan117 22:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
If Bungie doesn't respond, you could also email it to Eric Nylund. (www.ericnylund.net) -ED 01:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Message Sent[edit]

alright, I sent the message! If they dont respond in a month, Ill send it to Nylund.--JohnSpartan117 06:41, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Good idea --Climax Viod 18:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Send to Nyland[edit]

Ok Eric Nyland dosnt have access to the Halo Bible...he wont have the answer. Should I try anyway?--JohnSpartan117 05:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

He's probably seen it. I'd say it's worth a shot. --Dragonclaws 06:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well its been weeks and Paul hasnt responded. Can someone email this to Eric for me? I mean considering this was my idea and I wrote this lettter?--JohnSpartan117 08:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

"Lord" isnt Hood's actual title, its supposed to be a nick name.--SPARTAN-117<sub> 03:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Not according to Eric -- Yamanba 05:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

He probly got nighted by the british queen of there time.--Ryanngreenday 14:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Thats what im thinking but we have no evidence wit this. I think the fix we have now works best.--

Eric Confirms[edit]

All this new information proves is that Eric based the ranking system on the American system, something I've stated all along. However, as shown with certain "Anomalies" we don't know the exact Bungie ranking system. Therefore as I've stated multiple times in the past, if the ranking system isn't used in the Halo Universe it shouldn't exist on Halopedia. Ranks which now exist as articles on present day military ranks, (Hence their Realworld Templates) should be deleted because

A)As Eric has confirmed there are "Anomalies" with the UNSC ranking system, and until Bungie releases their ranking system ranks that aren't mentioned in the Halo Universe should be deleted.

B)Halopedia is Not a place to store info about present day military ranks

  • How about we just have articles about the ranks that have been seen in the books and games.?--Ryanngreenday 22:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree 100% The following ranks that aren't mentioned in the Halo Universe should be deleted:
  • Lieutenant General
  • Lieutenant Colonel
  • Brigadier General
  • Captain(2)
  • First Sergeant

Ok makes sense, lets delete them.--<font color="gold">SPARTAN-117</font><sub> 08:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Where does it say that?--User:JohnSpartan117 11:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

"Lord" Hood[edit]

I have a possible explanation to what Eric Nylund considers an anomaly in the title of Fleet Admiral Hood. Though I am unaware of the specifics, in present-day U.K., military officers who are knighted are entitled to use the honorif "Sir" or "Lord" in their military title e.g. Sir Admiral Hood/ Lord Admiral Hood. As an American, it is quite likely that Nylund did not know this. The UNSC may not be all American as the rank structure suggests, it may be a blending of cultures (countries). Just a thought. Manticore 10:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Just realised this idea has been discussed above. Oh well, hope my contribution might shed some light on the issue.Manticore 10:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Just to clear this up for above mainly "Send to Nyland". Lord is a title it has nothing to do with being Knighted (which some senior British Officers are) The easiest way to think of it is similar to being a Barron, Duke or Earl When knighted Sir becomes a part of your name sort of replacing Mr/Mrs and so on

If you wanted to cram it all in it would be “Fleet Admiral Lord Sir Terrence Hood” So as he has two British titles he’s probably British And isn’t it obvious that the United Nations Space Command would include more than just America? --Climax-Void File:Hammer sickle.png|35 px]] Chat or My Contributions