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== In Halo 3 does Master Chief wear Mark VI? ==
I think that It would be best if the [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor#Armor Versions|Armor Versions]] section of this article was organized in a fashion similar to the [[Covenant Empire#Species|Species]] section of the article about The Covenant Empire. An available picture of the armor may be displayed beside the synopsis where applicable. Is this a good suggestion? --<big>[[User:Pikapi|''<font color="teal">Chris</font>]]''</big> [[User_talk:Pikapi|<font color="blue">''talk''</font>]] <font color="blue">''blog''</font> 11:59, 12 January 2011 (EST)


Are we completely sure that the newest pictures of the Chief are in Mark VI? The color looks kind of different...I think we should remove the image because of the possibility that it is Mark VII.--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 02:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
:I'm actually working on it. :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:04, 12 January 2011 (EST)


:I think I agree. The newest images of the Chief from H3 are most likely the Mark VII(or whatever the folks at Bungie decide to call the next version;) So we shouldn't presume to know the facts regarding it's designation...even though it's very likely. It's almost definitely not the Mark VI, though. For the same reason we should label any references to the Mark VII armor as speculation, since we don't have factual data on it yet. Keep the images, because they are dynamic, but don't mislead the readers.--[[User:Cu Roi|Cu Roi]] 19:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
::Scratch that, I thought you meant the Armor Permutation article. :P
:Actually, if you look at a zoomed in picture of the new halo 3 hoodie, there is a caption below the MC saying: UNSC Mark VI Mjolnir --Dockman 22:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
::This article is fine as it is, by the looks of it. Armor Permutation is where the mess is. ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:07, 12 January 2011 (EST)


==GoO Spartans had Mark VI Armour!==
== Discussion clean-up ==


The article states that John is the only one to have received VI. However, if you look on the cover of GoO, a Spartan wearing VI is in the background.
This is a huge discussion page and most of the information on it is YEARS old. I suggest a clean-up. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 19:36, 6 April 2012 (EDT)


:That's Kurt in the MJOLNIR MARK V armor!--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 09:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I have also been wondering how much titanium is in the armor itself


who assumes that They were the only ones wearing Mark V? i was always under the assumption that everyone was getting the new armour-Fred swaps damaged parts of his Mark V with someone who had died! why would they be the only ones to have it?
== Fission Power ==


:*What in god's name did you just say? [[User:CaptainAdamGraves|CaptainAdamGraves]] 04:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Where is it started that Mjolnir itself used fission at any point? Halo: The Fall of Reach states that the Mk. IV introduced in November 2525 used a fusion power pack:
"John glimpsed veinlike microcapillaries, a dense sandwich of optical crystal, a circulating pump, '''even what looked like a miniature fusion cell in the backpack.'''"


::*read the article. under the Mark V heading, it has what i'm talking about.
One of the citations in this article is page 45 of Ghosts of Onyx. All it says is:
"MJOLNIR suit construction, maintenance staff, and '''recent upgrades to their microfusion plants'''"
Never does it say or even hint that the upgrades were from a fission to a fusion power source.


:I thought that they got the Mark VI parts from a secret weapons locker deep under the base. [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
Finally, the other citation comes from Halsey's Journal, specifically the Jan. 7, 2535 entry. Under the Mk. IV section, it reads:
"Standard fusion power (critical improvement over the fission power source)."


Again, at no point does it state that Mjolnir ever used fission power. There's arguably an implication that it did, but the comment in the journal could just as easily be a reference to the power source for the old exoskeletons. In light of this, I think the mention of a fission power source should be removed, as there's no solid evidence for it (unless there's a missing citation somewhere). --[[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 19:47, 18 February 2018 (EST)


::I think it's Mark VI Because Halo 2 Takes course over a very, very, very short period of time so I don't think there would be enough time to even make a Mark VII! [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:Removed. It's likely that the experimental versions of the MJOLNIR did utilise fission but that was not implemented in the finalised version (as per the comment in the journal). Thanks for checking this up! — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  06:09, 24 February 2018 (EST)


Kurt-051 have received the cut down version of the MJOLNIR armor, it was mentioned in Ghost of Onyx (or did I carelessly misread the article?)--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 10:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
:And lo! ''Silent Storm'' has the Spartans' Mjolnir equipped with fission plants in 2526. --[[User:Tacitus|Tacitus]] ([[User talk:Tacitus|talk]]) 02:53, 28 September 2018 (EDT)
:Kurt has his old MJOLNIR suit, but he chooses to wear his SPI armor instead because he doesn't want to feel separate from his S-III unit. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 23:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


No, I am talking about the distribution of the armor, Kurt received one, why his his name not written on the article?--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 04:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
== Exoskeleton Dates ==


==Master Chief is NOT wearing Mark VII armor in Halo 3 "Time"==
Foreword: I unfortunately do not have the Essentials Visual Guide, nor the Halo Encyclopedia, so I can't double-check these. However I'm quite confused with the dates as listed currently. The Mark III Exoskeleton (the one using experimental power transmission) is introduced first in 2510, then the Cyclops is introduced in 2513 based on this, and ''then'' the Mark I Exoskeleton is initiated in 2515?--[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 15:15, May 30, 2021 (EDT)
 
Some believe that the chances of the Master Chief wearing Mjolnir Mark VII armor is impossible, saying that 'there was no chance for him to acquire the armor because the Covenant already had control of Earth.'
Indeed, it seems unlikely that John would have the time to acquire such a high tech piece of armor, considering the Covenant had control of most of Earth when he returned aboard the Prophet's ship.
Some also believe that small parts of the armor were exchanged for newer, more upgraded parts.  And this might lead Bungie to call it 'Mjolnir Mark VII', because of the new parts.
 
Other theories could be the possibility of the armor's color wearing out from countless battles. The green color would slowly dissipate and turn into an olive green, then from that onto an olive green/brown.  This might be another reason why the Master Chief's armor appears brownish instead of the normal green.
 
Well, I think that the gloves is slightly different, and the HUD is definetly a big change. There might be a long period after Halo 2, so it appears so [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 05:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 
Well I think while the Forerunner Ship jumped there was a gap whilte they were in Slipspace so the Chief may have may have Mark VII or Mark 6.5 and there is no evidence that all of Earth is under control because Blue Team has been killing all of them.
 
There is a period between Halo 3, and Master Chief must have gone through a fight without killing himself. if he's using Mark VI he could have died a long time ago. It must be an upgraded one[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 05:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 
==where is the mark II armour mentioned==
 
in all my time playing halo reading the books and looking around here this is the first instance i have ever heard of the mark II armour can somebody tell me where it is mentioned
--[[User:Fatman ninja|Fatman ninja]] 18:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 
:I think they might have mentioned it in Fall of Reach, I am not sure, but I've seen something similar about it too[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 05:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 
==This is exactly the same as the wikipedia article...==
 
They just changed a couple of words-- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 18:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 04:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Armor Shields ==
 
I heard that after 20 shield depletes/recharges the shields stop working,Is that true? --[[User:Mac10&Cheese|Mac10&amp;Cheese]] 23:28, 18 March 2007
 
==Mystery Armor==
 
 
[[Image:S117orig.JPG|thumb|What version is this?]]{{Clear}}
 
 
Where did you get that?--[[User:UNSC AI|UNSC AI]] 20:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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Armor Versions Organization[edit]

I think that It would be best if the Armor Versions section of this article was organized in a fashion similar to the Species section of the article about The Covenant Empire. An available picture of the armor may be displayed beside the synopsis where applicable. Is this a good suggestion? --Chris talk blog 11:59, 12 January 2011 (EST)

I'm actually working on it. :) - 5əb'7aŋk(7alk) 12:04, 12 January 2011 (EST)
Scratch that, I thought you meant the Armor Permutation article. :P
This article is fine as it is, by the looks of it. Armor Permutation is where the mess is. ;) - 5əb'7aŋk(7alk) 12:07, 12 January 2011 (EST)

Discussion clean-up[edit]

This is a huge discussion page and most of the information on it is YEARS old. I suggest a clean-up. --ADinoSupremacist 19:36, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

I have also been wondering how much titanium is in the armor itself

Fission Power[edit]

Where is it started that Mjolnir itself used fission at any point? Halo: The Fall of Reach states that the Mk. IV introduced in November 2525 used a fusion power pack: "John glimpsed veinlike microcapillaries, a dense sandwich of optical crystal, a circulating pump, even what looked like a miniature fusion cell in the backpack."

One of the citations in this article is page 45 of Ghosts of Onyx. All it says is: "MJOLNIR suit construction, maintenance staff, and recent upgrades to their microfusion plants" Never does it say or even hint that the upgrades were from a fission to a fusion power source.

Finally, the other citation comes from Halsey's Journal, specifically the Jan. 7, 2535 entry. Under the Mk. IV section, it reads: "Standard fusion power (critical improvement over the fission power source)."

Again, at no point does it state that Mjolnir ever used fission power. There's arguably an implication that it did, but the comment in the journal could just as easily be a reference to the power source for the old exoskeletons. In light of this, I think the mention of a fission power source should be removed, as there's no solid evidence for it (unless there's a missing citation somewhere). --Toa Freak (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Removed. It's likely that the experimental versions of the MJOLNIR did utilise fission but that was not implemented in the finalised version (as per the comment in the journal). Thanks for checking this up! — subtank 06:09, 24 February 2018 (EST)
And lo! Silent Storm has the Spartans' Mjolnir equipped with fission plants in 2526. --Tacitus (talk) 02:53, 28 September 2018 (EDT)

Exoskeleton Dates[edit]

Foreword: I unfortunately do not have the Essentials Visual Guide, nor the Halo Encyclopedia, so I can't double-check these. However I'm quite confused with the dates as listed currently. The Mark III Exoskeleton (the one using experimental power transmission) is introduced first in 2510, then the Cyclops is introduced in 2513 based on this, and then the Mark I Exoskeleton is initiated in 2515?--The Ragin Pagan (talk) 15:15, May 30, 2021 (EDT)

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