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Armor Versions Organization[edit]

I think that It would be best if the Armor Versions section of this article was organized in a fashion similar to the Species section of the article about The Covenant Empire. An available picture of the armor may be displayed beside the synopsis where applicable. Is this a good suggestion? --Chris talk blog 11:59, 12 January 2011 (EST)

I'm actually working on it. :) - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 12:04, 12 January 2011 (EST)

Scratch that, I thought you meant the Armor Permutation article. :P

This article is fine as it is, by the looks of it. Armor Permutation is where the mess is. ;) - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 12:07, 12 January 2011 (EST)

Discussion clean-up[edit]

This is a huge discussion page and most of the information on it is YEARS old. I suggest a clean-up. --ADinoSupremacist 19:36, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

I have also been wondering how much titanium is in the armor itself

Fission Power[edit]

Where is it started that Mjolnir itself used fission at any point? Halo: The Fall of Reach states that the Mk. IV introduced in November 2525 used a fusion power pack: "John glimpsed veinlike microcapillaries, a dense sandwich of optical crystal, a circulating pump, even what looked like a miniature fusion cell in the backpack."

One of the citations in this article is page 45 of Ghosts of Onyx. All it says is: "MJOLNIR suit construction, maintenance staff, and recent upgrades to their microfusion plants" Never does it say or even hint that the upgrades were from a fission to a fusion power source.

Finally, the other citation comes from Halsey's Journal, specifically the Jan. 7, 2535 entry. Under the Mk. IV section, it reads: "Standard fusion power (critical improvement over the fission power source)."

Again, at no point does it state that Mjolnir ever used fission power. There's arguably an implication that it did, but the comment in the journal could just as easily be a reference to the power source for the old exoskeletons. In light of this, I think the mention of a fission power source should be removed, as there's no solid evidence for it (unless there's a missing citation somewhere). --Toa Freak (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Removed. It's likely that the experimental versions of the MJOLNIR did utilise fission but that was not implemented in the finalised version (as per the comment in the journal). Thanks for checking this up! — subtank 06:09, 24 February 2018 (EST)

And lo! Silent Storm has the Spartans' Mjolnir equipped with fission plants in 2526. --Tacitus (talk) 02:53, 28 September 2018 (EDT)

Exoskeleton Dates[edit]

Foreword: I unfortunately do not have the Essentials Visual Guide, nor the Halo Encyclopedia, so I can't double-check these. However I'm quite confused with the dates as listed currently. The Mark III Exoskeleton (the one using experimental power transmission) is introduced first in 2510, then the Cyclops is introduced in 2513 based on this, and then the Mark I Exoskeleton is initiated in 2515?--The Ragin Pagan (talk) 15:15, May 30, 2021 (EDT)

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-What is the corporation in Halo that makes MJOLNIR? I remember Master Gunns Mentioned it. {{unsigned|64.121.1.55}}
+{{Archived|multi=Archives<br />[[/Archive 1|1]] • [[/Archive 2|2]]}}
+== Armor Versions Organization ==
-He Mentioned the place it came from not the people who made it.--[[User:Ryanngreenday|Ryanngreenday]] 23:51, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
+I think that It would be best if the [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor#Armor Versions|Armor Versions]] section of this article was organized in a fashion similar to the [[Covenant Empire#Species|Species]] section of the article about The Covenant Empire. An available picture of the armor may be displayed beside the synopsis where applicable. Is this a good suggestion? --<big>[[User:Pikapi|''<font color="teal">Chris</font>]]''</big> [[User_talk:Pikapi|<font color="blue">''talk''</font>]] <font color="blue">''blog''</font> 11:59, 12 January 2011 (EST)
-probably just a [[UNSC]] department --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 20:35, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
+:I'm actually working on it. :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:04, 12 January 2011 (EST)
-Master Gunns said it was from Songnam, Korea {{unsigned|Master chief}}
+::Scratch that, I thought you meant the Armor Permutation article. :P
+::This article is fine as it is, by the looks of it. Armor Permutation is where the mess is. ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:07, 12 January 2011 (EST)
-Its part of a top secret project in [[ONI]], so I doubt it was made by a civilian Military Contractar.--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 02:01, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
+== Discussion clean-up ==
-== Pronunciation ==
+This is a huge discussion page and most of the information on it is YEARS old. I suggest a clean-up. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 19:36, 6 April 2012 (EDT)
-The pronunciation is actually "Mee-ohl-nihr"; I dunno where the given pronunciation comes from, but it's wrong. --s.
+I have also been wondering how much titanium is in the armor itself
-I added a revised pronunciation guide. --Cu
+== Fission Power ==
-== Mark VI? ==
+Where is it started that Mjolnir itself used fission at any point? Halo: The Fall of Reach states that the Mk. IV introduced in November 2525 used a fusion power pack:
+"John glimpsed veinlike microcapillaries, a dense sandwich of optical crystal, a circulating pump, '''even what looked like a miniature fusion cell in the backpack.'''"
-Are we completely sure that the newest pictures of the Chief are in Mark VI? The color looks kind of different...I think we should remove the image because of the possibility that it is Mark VII.--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 02:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
+One of the citations in this article is page 45 of Ghosts of Onyx. All it says is:
+"MJOLNIR suit construction, maintenance staff, and '''recent upgrades to their microfusion plants'''"
+Never does it say or even hint that the upgrades were from a fission to a fusion power source.
+Finally, the other citation comes from Halsey's Journal, specifically the Jan. 7, 2535 entry. Under the Mk. IV section, it reads:
+"Standard fusion power (critical improvement over the fission power source)."
-I think I agree. The newest images of the Chief from H3 are most likely the Mark VII(or whatever the folks at Bungie decide to call the next version;) So we shouldn't presume to know the facts regarding it's designation...even though it's very likely. It's almost definitely not the Mark VI, though. For the same reason we should label any references to the Mark VII armor as speculation, since we don't have factual data on it yet. Keep the images, because they are dynamic, but don't mislead the readers.--[[User:Cu Roi|Cu Roi]] 19:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
+Again, at no point does it state that Mjolnir ever used fission power. There's arguably an implication that it did, but the comment in the journal could just as easily be a reference to the power source for the old exoskeletons. In light of this, I think the mention of a fission power source should be removed, as there's no solid evidence for it (unless there's a missing citation somewhere). --[[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 19:47, 18 February 2018 (EST)
-Actually, if you look at a zoomed in picture of the new halo 3 hoodie, there is a caption below the MC saying: UNSC Mark VI Mjolnir --Dockman 22:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
+:Removed. It's likely that the experimental versions of the MJOLNIR did utilise fission but that was not implemented in the finalised version (as per the comment in the journal). Thanks for checking this up! — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  06:09, 24 February 2018 (EST)
-== Mark V ==
+:And lo! ''Silent Storm'' has the Spartans' Mjolnir equipped with fission plants in 2526. --[[User:Tacitus|Tacitus]] ([[User talk:Tacitus|talk]]) 02:53, 28 September 2018 (EDT)
-who assumes that They were the only ones wearing Mark V? i was always under the assumption that everyone was getting the new armour-Fred swaps damaged parts of his Mark V with someone who had died! why would they be the only ones to have it?
+== Exoskeleton Dates ==
+Foreword: I unfortunately do not have the Essentials Visual Guide, nor the Halo Encyclopedia, so I can't double-check these. However I'm quite confused with the dates as listed currently. The Mark III Exoskeleton (the one using experimental power transmission) is introduced first in 2510, then the Cyclops is introduced in 2513 based on this, and ''then'' the Mark I Exoskeleton is initiated in 2515?--[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 15:15, May 30, 2021 (EDT)