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I agree. He wears standard black armor, but lead a group of Elites, so he should be a [[Special Operations Major]].--[[User:Mouse among men|Mouse among men]] 22:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree. He wears standard black armor, but lead a group of Elites, so he should be a [[Special Operations Major]].--[[User:Mouse among men|Mouse among men]] 22:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


The [[Special Operations Elite]] page seperates SpecOps Major and SpecOps Officer as seperate ranks. -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 08:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
The [[Special Operations Elite]] page seperates SpecOps Major and SpecOps Officer as seperate ranks. -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 08:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


In [[Halo: The Flood]], it identifies Zuka 'Zamamee as a Special Operations Officer. However, officer can be implied to be a term that covers multiple ranks, so he may well be a Special Operations Major. However, I would say leave him as a Special Operations Officer because assuming is not our job.
In Halo: The Flood, it identifies Zuka 'Zamamee as a Special Operations Officer. However, officer can be implied to be a term that covers multiple ranks, so he may well be a Special Operations Major. However, I would say leave him as a Special Operations Officer because assuming is not our job.
:--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Master Gunnery Sergeant]] [[User:Rotaretilbo/Hank|Hank J Wimbleton IV]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|COM]]</sup> 23:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Master Gunnery Sergeant]] [[User:Rotaretilbo/Hank|Hank J Wimbleton IV]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|COM]]</sup> 23:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


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It mentions in the book that he fights Master Chief in the elevator near the engine room, could someone maybe get a picture of the Elite who stands on the elevator waiting for Master Chief in the game on the level "The Maw"? User:Joshua 029
It mentions in the book that he fights Master Chief in the elevator near the engine room, could someone maybe get a picture of the Elite who stands on the elevator waiting for Master Chief in the game on the level "The Maw"? User:Joshua 029


:That quote is probably to vague to definitively say that he was the one who was on the elevator. Also, whats with that picture's caption on the article? How does anyone know who that is? -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 08:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:That quote is probably to vague to definitively say that he was the one who was on the elevator. Also, whats with that picture's caption on the article? How does anyone know who that is? -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 08:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


{{BigQuote|A second door opened onto the area directly in front of the large service elevator. The Chief heard machinery whir, figured he had triggered a sensor, and waited for the lift to arrive. For the first time in hours there was no immediate threat, no imminent danger, and the Spartan allowed himself to relax fractionally. It was a mistake. "Chief!" Cortana said. "Get back!" Thanks to the warning, he was already backing through the hatch when the lift appeared from below, and the Elite, seated in the plasma turret, opened fire.  
BigQuote|A second door opened onto the area directly in front of the large service elevator. The Chief heard machinery whir, figured he had triggered a sensor, and waited for the lift to arrive. For the first time in hours there was no immediate threat, no imminent danger, and the Spartan allowed himself to relax fractionally. It was a mistake. "Chief!" Cortana said. "Get back!" Thanks to the warning, he was already backing through the hatch when the lift appeared from below, and the Elite, seated in the plasma turret, opened fire.  


Special Ops Officer Zuka 'Zamamee fired the Shade. The energy cannon took up most of the platform, leaving barely enough room for the Grunts who had helped the Elite wrestle the weapon aboard. The bolt flared blue, hit the hatch as it started to close, and slagged half the door. He felt elation as the waves of energy slashed through the air toward his target. Soon, victory would be complete, and his honor could be restored. Then he'd deal with the tiresome Grunt, Yayap. It was going to be a glorious day.
Special Ops Officer Zuka 'Zamamee fired the Shade. The energy cannon took up most of the platform, leaving barely enough room for the Grunts who had helped the Elite wrestle the weapon aboard. The bolt flared blue, hit the hatch as it started to close, and slagged half the door. He felt elation as the waves of energy slashed through the air toward his target. Soon, victory would be complete, and his honor could be restored. Then he'd deal with the tiresome Grunt, Yayap. It was going to be a glorious day.
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'Zamamee saw the energy bolt hit the hatch, experienced a sense of exhilaration as the human hurried to escape, and felt the platform jerk to a halt. The Elite had just fired again, just blown what remained of the human's cover away, when he heard a clank and the lift started to descend. "''No!''" he shouted, sure that one of the Grunts was responsible for the sudden movement, and desperate lest the human escape his clutches. But it was too late, and there was nothing the smaller aliens could do, as the elevator continued to fall. Then, even as his target vanished from sight, and 'Zamamee railed at his subordinates, a couple of grenades tumbled down from above, rattling around the floor, and exploded. The force of the blast lifted the Elite up and out of his seat, gave him one last look at his opponent, and let him fall. He hit with a thud, felt something snap, and waited for his first glimpse of paradise.
'Zamamee saw the energy bolt hit the hatch, experienced a sense of exhilaration as the human hurried to escape, and felt the platform jerk to a halt. The Elite had just fired again, just blown what remained of the human's cover away, when he heard a clank and the lift started to descend. "''No!''" he shouted, sure that one of the Grunts was responsible for the sudden movement, and desperate lest the human escape his clutches. But it was too late, and there was nothing the smaller aliens could do, as the elevator continued to fall. Then, even as his target vanished from sight, and 'Zamamee railed at his subordinates, a couple of grenades tumbled down from above, rattling around the floor, and exploded. The force of the blast lifted the Elite up and out of his seat, gave him one last look at his opponent, and let him fall. He hit with a thud, felt something snap, and waited for his first glimpse of paradise.


Cortana brought the lift back up. The Master Chief had little choice but to step onto the gore-splattered platform and let it carry him toward the service corridor above.}}
Cortana brought the lift back up. The Master Chief had little choice but to step onto the gore-splattered platform and let it carry him toward the service corridor above.


:That's from pages 334 and 335 of [[Halo: The Flood]]. It certainly isn't vague.
:That's from pages 334 and 335 of [[Halo: The Flood]]. It certainly isn't vague.
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I think that 'Zamamee was suppose to be the Elite on the elevator, but in the game (I think) the elevator does not carry a Shade. The Elite is just like any other Elite and can be killed even without a grenade. -Blemo 05:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that 'Zamamee was suppose to be the Elite on the elevator, but in the game (I think) the elevator does not carry a Shade. The Elite is just like any other Elite and can be killed even without a grenade. -Blemo 05:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


It does carry the shade, but only on legendary I belive, I will try and get a picture.[[User:Spec-op sniper058|<span style="color:7FFF00">Spec-op sniper058</span>]] [[Image:Albinolep.jpg|Albinolep.jpg]] 18:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
It does carry the shade, but only on legendary I belive, I will try and get a picture.[[User:Spec-op sniper058|<span style="color:7FFF00">Spec-op sniper058</span>]] File:Albinolep.jpg|Albinolep.jpg]] 18:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


I played the whole level on Legendary and I did not even see 1 Shade.[[User talk:Kasa &#39;Makonee|Kasa &#39;Makonee]] 19:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I played the whole level on Legendary and I did not even see 1 Shade.[[User talk:Kasa &#39;Makonee|Kasa &#39;Makonee]] 19:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Of course the Elite in the elevator in the game isn't strictly on parr with the book considering the book was made AFTER the game. But you can still say it is Zuka 'Zamamee even if he doesn't have the shade turret. [[User talk:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 17:52, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
== Cowered ==
zumamee was a cowered and a disgrace, he hid, lied, donned another's armor, he would have been executed along with the rest of the Zumams if he hadn't be killed by the MC.--[[User talk:Kre &#39;Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 12:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, harsh. Perhaps compared to the standards of Vadam he was not as insanely zealous, but a '''coward'''? I highly doubt all of the Zumam clan would have been wiped out, at most just Zuka's bloodline. We have to remember that we can't look at Sangheili culture as a homogenous unit, just as we can't look at human society as being all the same. It is very possible that different standards apply in different clans. --[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 17:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::True, but still, he showed virtually no signs of honor, only being motivated by keeping his own life, even going so far as to letting a lowly unggoy threaten him with a plasma pistol, the weapon so weak that the MC actually changes hands to melee with it, while his shields probably would have been up.--[[User talk:Kre &#39;Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 12:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Zuka actually mentions at the end of the book that if he killed MC he'd regain his honour. He was forced to do all those dishonourable things because he badly wanted to kill the MC. [[User talk:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 17:54, October 18, 2009 (UTC)
==Picture==
Just for everyone's information, the picture that our friend [http://halopedian.com/User:MisterRandom2 MisterRandom2] was trying to put up is legitimate, and can be proven as such. If anyone is able to return the picture that was deleted, I would appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:purple">'''Que'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:red">'''Sera'''</span>]], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:orange">'''Sera'''</span>]] 02:13, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

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Rank[edit]

I think that the term "Special Operations Officer" denotes that he is a SpecOps Major.—This unsigned comment was made by CommanderTony (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I agree. He wears standard black armor, but lead a group of Elites, so he should be a Special Operations Major.--Mouse among men 22:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The Special Operations Elite page seperates SpecOps Major and SpecOps Officer as seperate ranks. -- Manticore File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] Talk | CSV 08:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

In Halo: The Flood, it identifies Zuka 'Zamamee as a Special Operations Officer. However, officer can be implied to be a term that covers multiple ranks, so he may well be a Special Operations Major. However, I would say leave him as a Special Operations Officer because assuming is not our job.

--Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IVCOM 23:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

It mentions in the book that he fights Master Chief in the elevator near the engine room, could someone maybe get a picture of the Elite who stands on the elevator waiting for Master Chief in the game on the level "The Maw"? User:Joshua 029

That quote is probably to vague to definitively say that he was the one who was on the elevator. Also, whats with that picture's caption on the article? How does anyone know who that is? -- Manticore File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] Talk | CSV 08:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

BigQuote|A second door opened onto the area directly in front of the large service elevator. The Chief heard machinery whir, figured he had triggered a sensor, and waited for the lift to arrive. For the first time in hours there was no immediate threat, no imminent danger, and the Spartan allowed himself to relax fractionally. It was a mistake. "Chief!" Cortana said. "Get back!" Thanks to the warning, he was already backing through the hatch when the lift appeared from below, and the Elite, seated in the plasma turret, opened fire.

Special Ops Officer Zuka 'Zamamee fired the Shade. The energy cannon took up most of the platform, leaving barely enough room for the Grunts who had helped the Elite wrestle the weapon aboard. The bolt flared blue, hit the hatch as it started to close, and slagged half the door. He felt elation as the waves of energy slashed through the air toward his target. Soon, victory would be complete, and his honor could be restored. Then he'd deal with the tiresome Grunt, Yayap. It was going to be a glorious day.

"Damn!" the Chief exclaimed. "Where did that come from?" "It looks like someone has been tracking you," Cortana said grimly. "No, get ready - I'll take control of the elevator and cause it to drop. You roll a couple of grenades into the shaft."

'Zamamee saw the energy bolt hit the hatch, experienced a sense of exhilaration as the human hurried to escape, and felt the platform jerk to a halt. The Elite had just fired again, just blown what remained of the human's cover away, when he heard a clank and the lift started to descend. "No!" he shouted, sure that one of the Grunts was responsible for the sudden movement, and desperate lest the human escape his clutches. But it was too late, and there was nothing the smaller aliens could do, as the elevator continued to fall. Then, even as his target vanished from sight, and 'Zamamee railed at his subordinates, a couple of grenades tumbled down from above, rattling around the floor, and exploded. The force of the blast lifted the Elite up and out of his seat, gave him one last look at his opponent, and let him fall. He hit with a thud, felt something snap, and waited for his first glimpse of paradise.

Cortana brought the lift back up. The Master Chief had little choice but to step onto the gore-splattered platform and let it carry him toward the service corridor above.

That's from pages 334 and 335 of Halo: The Flood. It certainly isn't vague.
--Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IVCOM 23:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that 'Zamamee was suppose to be the Elite on the elevator, but in the game (I think) the elevator does not carry a Shade. The Elite is just like any other Elite and can be killed even without a grenade. -Blemo 05:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It does carry the shade, but only on legendary I belive, I will try and get a picture.Spec-op sniper058 File:Albinolep.jpg|Albinolep.jpg]] 18:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I played the whole level on Legendary and I did not even see 1 Shade.Kasa 'Makonee 19:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Of course the Elite in the elevator in the game isn't strictly on parr with the book considering the book was made AFTER the game. But you can still say it is Zuka 'Zamamee even if he doesn't have the shade turret. Joshua 029 17:52, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Cowered[edit]

zumamee was a cowered and a disgrace, he hid, lied, donned another's armor, he would have been executed along with the rest of the Zumams if he hadn't be killed by the MC.--Kre 'Nunumee 12:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, harsh. Perhaps compared to the standards of Vadam he was not as insanely zealous, but a coward? I highly doubt all of the Zumam clan would have been wiped out, at most just Zuka's bloodline. We have to remember that we can't look at Sangheili culture as a homogenous unit, just as we can't look at human society as being all the same. It is very possible that different standards apply in different clans. --Emblem 1.jpgRusty-UserWiki:Rusty-112|112]] 17:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
True, but still, he showed virtually no signs of honor, only being motivated by keeping his own life, even going so far as to letting a lowly unggoy threaten him with a plasma pistol, the weapon so weak that the MC actually changes hands to melee with it, while his shields probably would have been up.--Kre 'Nunumee 12:31, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Zuka actually mentions at the end of the book that if he killed MC he'd regain his honour. He was forced to do all those dishonourable things because he badly wanted to kill the MC. Joshua 029 17:54, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

Just for everyone's information, the picture that our friend MisterRandom2 was trying to put up is legitimate, and can be proven as such. If anyone is able to return the picture that was deleted, I would appreciate it. Thank you. Que Sera, Sera 02:13, September 7, 2010 (UTC)